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Title: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: isabella01 on June 28, 2017, 09:57:22 AM
I think cryptocurrencies need a strong PR team for crisis management plans. Who knows, maybe if they had responded to the scandal in time, it would have died down and everyone would have realised that it was #Fakenews and the dude wasn't in fact died or in a car crash. But as time went by, it reached more and more people and they all freaked out and reacted the way they did. As a result, it went sliding down by 20%. Which in my opinion, is A LOT!


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Sled on June 28, 2017, 10:58:16 AM
I think not only the fake news ruined the ethereum because there is also a news that tells that there is a Ddos attack on ethereum because there is a flood of transactions that sending ethereum with 0 value and i think it is a spam in the network and a possible Ddos so as well as the fake news about Vitalik it makes the people panic and it caused a dramatic dump for ethereum.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Barcode_ on June 28, 2017, 11:05:19 AM
From this incident, it shows us how fake news could also have an influence on the price of crypto-currency, I am quite shocked to see Ethereum losing $4 billion in market value over one night from the fake news story about the death of Vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum. Maybe that is one of the advantage Bitcoin have over Ethereum, as satoshi nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, remains a mystery to everyone until today.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Proton2233 on June 28, 2017, 11:05:53 AM
Fluctuations in the exchange rate of bitcoin will not affect the life of this currency in the future. All bitcoins will be bought on stock exchanges and settle in the pockets of other people. When this process ends, the price will recover and start to rise again. The PR company doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: HaXX0R1337 on June 28, 2017, 12:03:39 PM
From what i understand every coin has a marketing team and it is their duty to properly reach out to the customers or investors and the recent price slide was simply because the network had some serious scaling issues to manage all the traffic and some huge sell orders were placed and that is the main reason for the market to go down rather than the so called fake news.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: CuriousGeorge on June 28, 2017, 12:29:28 PM
I think cryptocurrencies need a strong PR team for crisis management plans. Who knows, maybe if they had responded to the scandal in time, it would have died down and everyone would have realised that it was #Fakenews and the dude wasn't in fact died or in a car crash. But as time went by, it reached more and more people and they all freaked out and reacted the way they did. As a result, it went sliding down by 20%. Which in my opinion, is A LOT!

The price of ethereum went sliding down and a lot of newbies get rest caused by a hoax. it can be determined as serious FUD and there some parties that against ethereum try to manimalism the impact to the public users. People are so easy to believe in with fake news in this time.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: BingoDog on June 28, 2017, 12:41:27 PM
Fake news can make impact but only temporary because very soon it will be discovered they are fake so this can't last for long. But the damage could be done.
I'm not surprised ethereum is the target because it's on the constant rise and many don't like that and some also see it as serious competition to bitcoin so this probably will not stay the only attempt.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: jhenfelipe on June 28, 2017, 12:53:02 PM
Now I see the advantage of a creator with unknown identity like Satoshi Nakamoto. If the creator is known, the market can be slightly manipulated by hoax / fake news. Some people depends their support to the creator, so if something like this happens, it really affects the market (regardless if it's fake or true, some people panic easily).


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Hydrogen on June 28, 2017, 12:54:00 PM
if they had responded to the scandal in time, it would have died down and everyone would have realised that it was #Fakenews and the dude wasn't in fact died or in a car crash. But as time went by, it reached more and more people and they all freaked out and reacted the way they did. As a result, it went sliding down by 20%. Which in my opinion, is A LOT!

There's a second possibility that goes like this.

Fake reasons are created for eth price fall to prevent people from understanding the real reasons behind it.

A story about a car crash could have nothing to do with an eth decline.

Eth could be a bubble that was going to pop with or without a fake story.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: HeRetiK on June 28, 2017, 12:58:19 PM
Looks more like the correction of an already overbought market to me, to be honest... either way kinda worrying that Vitalik could be seen as a single point of failure in the case of Ethereum.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: lizardbtc on June 28, 2017, 01:07:47 PM
ahahahah proof-of-life VItalik http://www.coindesk.com/proof-life-vitalik-buterin-uses-ethereum-blockchain-disprove-death-hoax/ lol, this news made my day  ;D ;D I wonder who trust to much on the 4chain...


But seriously I don't believe that this caused the price to decline at all, we saw that BTC went down which resulted in every top alt to be in the red zone. To many ICOs and bubble of ETH was being made you simply needed to see a correction. Bearing in mind that it is really rare to see something to go straight up without some big correction. Yes everyone is happy when it goes up, until some people want to cash out and you see after that the panic sellers that create the dump being much more than it should have.

Now you see how ETH is really depended on it's devs and that it is a bit centralized.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Taki on June 28, 2017, 01:19:57 PM
From this incident, it shows us how fake news could also have an influence on the price of crypto-currency, I am quite shocked to see Ethereum losing $4 billion in market value over one night from the fake news story about the death of Vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum. Maybe that is one of the advantage Bitcoin have over Ethereum, as satoshi nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, remains a mystery to everyone until today.

I can say that is just a speculation and it was profitable to someone to post such information. Probably the target was exactly to fall the market of ETH and to buy coins cheaper incognito. That shows us how ETH is not strong.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: David Horton on June 28, 2017, 03:03:43 PM
Looks more like the correction of an already overbought market to me, to be honest... either way kinda worrying that Vitalik could be seen as a single point of failure in the case of Ethereum.

This is a good point.  Having the health of Vitalik linked to the price of Ethereum defeats the whole point of a decentralized system.  I guess the same can be said about Charlie Lee and Litecoin.  Credit has to go to Satoshi Nakamoto for hiding his/her/their identity/identities.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: susila_bai on June 28, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
I dont think that this fake news were the impact on the ETH market decline, actually it is the whales who wanted the price to go down so that they can buy back in low and they have first sold it in a single spoof and then when market reacted on that and sold more down and then on the lower bottom all whales started to buy and now they are making news that it was a fake news and the price is going down. That is why ETH is known as the main scam coin which always create problem in the market


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: BaumT on June 28, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
I love the fact that he proved that he is alive with blockchain hashes, though it affected his coin. I think everything originated here:http://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/2608981


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: costina on June 28, 2017, 03:40:21 PM
From this incident, it shows us how fake news could also have an influence on the price of crypto-currency, I am quite shocked to see Ethereum losing $4 billion in market value over one night from the fake news story about the death of Vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum. Maybe that is one of the advantage Bitcoin have over Ethereum, as satoshi nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, remains a mystery to everyone until today.

I can say that is just a speculation and it was profitable to someone to post such information. Probably the target was exactly to fall the market of ETH and to buy coins cheaper incognito. That shows us how ETH is not strong.
The breakdown of ETH in the past days can prove the user ETH not trust it than BTC, you can see DASH, although crypto market are bearish, it just stand still and rasing up again when market recovery, because user DASH very trust it and not panic selling when have storm off breakdown on all market :)


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: iluvpie60 on June 28, 2017, 03:47:15 PM
Nah, it wasn't fake news that had everyone dumping their coins the other day. Almost all coins went down. Just because the founder of ETH was wrongly reported as dead wouldn't do anything to every other coin.

But we are going through a correction. Doubts in the air about ETH and doubts in the air about BTC are leading to a correction rigt now so we will see how it all shakes out this year. Lng term everything will be up by a lot don't you worry!!! :)


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: lonelygrimm on June 28, 2017, 04:39:14 PM
i think that's not really the reason why ETH price dropdown, this is just an another bad day for cryptocoin, almost every coin now in red, everyone dumping the coin maybe because panic sell, but IMO this is just another life circulation...


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: RodeoX on June 28, 2017, 04:47:52 PM
If fake news can ruin ETH, then let her die.  :D

I think some ETH "investors" are starting to figure out that ETH is no bitcoin.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: pitiflin on June 28, 2017, 04:51:39 PM
This has indeed caused a lot of problems for all the crypto-currencies including bitcoin,i don't know why this has not yet been improved ,i just hope it gets better and let the owner of eth  makes sure that all rumors about his death are clearly stated false. And finally , let the crypto-currencies not get destroyed because of this falsely accused rumors and may people not freak out so easily when they hear such rumors.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: MOBSSTER on June 28, 2017, 04:52:54 PM
Fake news or propaganda it's all works fine.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Gotottack on June 28, 2017, 04:57:26 PM
I think cryptocurrencies need a strong PR team for crisis management plans. Who knows, maybe if they had responded to the scandal in time, it would have died down and everyone would have realised that it was #Fakenews and the dude wasn't in fact died or in a car crash. But as time went by, it reached more and more people and they all freaked out and reacted the way they did. As a result, it went sliding down by 20%. Which in my opinion, is A LOT!

The death of the developer (true or not) would have not affected the prices of ethereum anyway. It was because people just realized that Ethereum developers hold shit tons of Ethereum that it is ridiculous to even be holding one now. As Vitalik and his posies hold majority of all Ethereum which means the investors of ethereum just basically handed them billions of dollars.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: passionsurf on June 28, 2017, 05:10:26 PM
Nah, it wasn't fake news that had everyone dumping their coins the other day. Almost all coins went down. Just because the founder of ETH was wrongly reported as dead wouldn't do anything to every other coin.

But we are going through a correction. Doubts in the air about ETH and doubts in the air about BTC are leading to a correction rigt now so we will see how it all shakes out this year. Lng term everything will be up by a lot don't you worry!!! :)

Yeah, I agree here. Ethereum is definitely not ruined, especially when the value is still $200-300, and it still has a market cap in the billions. If the coin value drops under $1, then maybe you can say Ethereum was ruined. But for now, it's still strong.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: HTracer on June 28, 2017, 05:21:33 PM
Any well-managed project in crypto should have a communication officer in team and official accounts in social media at least. It's the officer's responsibility to disprove fake news immediately.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: deisik on June 28, 2017, 06:20:05 PM
I think cryptocurrencies need a strong PR team for crisis management plans. Who knows, maybe if they had responded to the scandal in time, it would have died down and everyone would have realised that it was #Fakenews and the dude wasn't in fact died or in a car crash. But as time went by, it reached more and more people and they all freaked out and reacted the way they did. As a result, it went sliding down by 20%. Which in my opinion, is A LOT!

And who is going to pay this team?

Though whoever it might be, he will just use his money to push his own agenda, obviously. In fact, we already have such teams and groups. Jihan Wu and his army of shills are likely the most glaring example of this kind. Bitcoin should evolve in a consistent and reliable way, that would work better than any PR team and their propaganda. After all, Bitcoin is not about PR (though hype and rumors certainly play an important role in respect to its price)


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: SvenBomvolen on June 28, 2017, 06:49:31 PM
I love the fact that he proved that he is alive with blockchain hashes, though it affected his coin. I think everything originated here:http://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/2608981
Right. But that fact that he delayed with confute his death making me doubt, was he taking a part in such kind of information and was it profitable to him to move Etherum in red?


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: AleSergio on June 28, 2017, 08:34:49 PM
Ethereum is not just another altcoin on the market, which you can just throw away and forget. It will be still number 2 coin in crypto world. This scandl ofcourse has ruined some reputation, but it is just a matter of time, when it will come back on the same big positions :)


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Heartilly on June 28, 2017, 08:38:44 PM
I think cryptocurrencies need a strong PR team for crisis management plans. Who knows, maybe if they had responded to the scandal in time, it would have died down and everyone would have realised that it was #Fakenews and the dude wasn't in fact died or in a car crash. But as time went by, it reached more and more people and they all freaked out and reacted the way they did. As a result, it went sliding down by 20%. Which in my opinion, is A LOT!

Is this really a big deal? Bitcoin since it's start operating already received lots of fake news and even legitimate one didn't stand a chance to crash bitcoin. Of course price crash is possible but the important thing here is, it's recoves too much.

Did those Etherium guys who hold coins didn't know that FUD's are everywhere? How weak their hands are? Welcome to the altcoin world.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: KizaruOG on June 28, 2017, 08:43:15 PM
If fake news can ruin ETH, then let her die.

ETH started to fall before the news, what are you guys talking about?
But let it die anyway  ;D


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: European Central Bank on June 28, 2017, 08:58:30 PM
the reason it fell is because it's quite insanely inflated. you can add a reason if you want to but i certainly don't think it was fake news.

since crypto is drowning in nothing but fake news it's kinda hard to complain about it. it would be nice to get some real news every now and then.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: khufuking on June 28, 2017, 09:05:44 PM
And that is the different between decentralized and centralized coins . As much as I love ether and love the money I made from it but still coin with one man behind it >> ( decision making ) can easily get manipulated .


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: GreenBits on June 28, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
And that is the different between decentralized and centralized coins . As much as I love ether and love the money I made from it but still coin with one man behind it >> ( decision making ) can easily get manipulated .

To be honest, the Bitcoin Foundation/core devs are the point of centralization for us. Sure, it's distributed amongst more actors, but they pretty much all reside at a central point. I'm not defending Ethereum, I actually agree with you, but I prefer ETH in this case because for once, corporate interest will ensure the longevity of a thing rather than bring it's early demise. R3, Azure; the amount of research and development funds invested in ETH and related projects will ensure it will most likely stick around.



Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: Thule on June 28, 2017, 09:58:20 PM
Fake news can also skyrocket it back


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: machinek20 on June 28, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
It is a decentralized world so news is a very important thing for investors, but usually the one that get influenced by fake news are the newbies as for the professional or more experience investors they dont directly jump to conclusion, they have their own way to check the news and source to cross check the news


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: bitcoinbox on June 28, 2017, 11:43:13 PM
Fake news may impact a coin for a short time but the real big investors have enough tools and experience to detect those fake news.


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: GreenBits on June 29, 2017, 12:50:27 AM
Fake news can also skyrocket it back

Amen. Coins pump on rumors and lies all of the time, that's kind of the way it works here. None of these coins have a valuation based off of reality; the prices of these assets are purely speculative.

Fake news may impact a coin for a short time but the real big investors have enough tools and experience to detect those fake news.

Sometimes. Not a lot of reliable sources of breaking news in this sphere; we are dealing with money so you can't really trust advice here. Diligence is necessary, but sometimes it's damn near impossible (which used to mean 'don't invest'.)

And if you don't react, you might get left behind :( it's a enigma, LOL


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: brushgee on June 29, 2017, 08:33:57 AM
So ETC is decentralized version of ETH, would you move to ETC?


Title: Re: Fake News has potentially ruined Ether
Post by: arbitrage on June 29, 2017, 09:33:46 AM
From this incident, it shows us how fake news could also have an influence on the price of crypto-currency, I am quite shocked to see Ethereum losing $4 billion in market value over one night from the fake news story about the death of Vitalik Buterin, the creator of Ethereum. Maybe that is one of the advantage Bitcoin have over Ethereum, as satoshi nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, remains a mystery to everyone until today.
Now you know why Satoshi is gone. I mean if one person or news related to this person can influence price on such scale, then this is nothing else than perfect for making money. Speculative, without real value behind. What else you can say?

If fake news can ruin ETH, then let her die.  :D
I think some ETH "investors" are starting to figure out that ETH is no bitcoin.
Finally some voice of reason.