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Alright, so I've been PM'd by a few people what red-flags to look out for since I have a pretty good track record of spotting scammers. Sometimes I get it wrong, but better safe than sorry.  Here's a couple rules to follow to avoid becoming a victim:

1. Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER. There are plenty of veteran members to do business with and ALWAYS use escrow. If you're a newbie and you're doing business with another newbie, there's nearly a 100% chance that one of the parties is a scammer. I can not stress this enough.. just work with people who have been here at least a year.
2. Always use escrow.
3. See rule #2.

Thanks for the information

Another sign: when you are a reputable member like me, and when you ask the noob to send first and suddenly they stop replying to your PM. Scammer! Maybe I should start a list in the public interest?

Latest possible scammer(s):

- penetration -> confirmed scammer has scammed multiple people



EDIT: I have decided I will keep this list updated and maintained. (and of course remove people who later turn out not to be scammers - but if they are genuinely looking for a trade and have only about 100 posts why would they not send first to someone like me? Hopefully I can help everyone here)

excellent information and advice... amazing list well done for ur hard work... hope u were not scammed!!

Never trust provided TXIDs on new altcoins without block explorer. Better just wait to see the coins in your wallet and fully confirmed. Some people try to send manufactured TXIDs/screenshots to "proof" they made a payment.

1) Don't just trust the status of a member, anyone can be a hero member. This just means that he invested some time on his membership. He can always decide that a profitable scam will be a good payment for his time. However, a Hero account without negative feedback can be sold for more than 0.5 btcs. Therefore, he probably won't scam you for less than that, because a negative feedback from you would lower its value substantially.
2) Never deal with anyone without doing a search in the forum with his nickname, in order to check if he has scam accusations.
3) Ask for his coin address and always search it on http://blockchain.info, www.cryptocoinexplorer.com or other similar site, to verify if his address has the amounts he wants to sell.
4) Be very suspicious about proposals well under market price or if he accepts your proposal under market price with no negotiation.
5) Look for the reputation/trust of the member, checking also his successful trades, in the form of vouches from the other party on the deal. Be aware that positive trust can be forged by making and using more bitcointalk accounts and the trust system can be more or less avoided by changing its settings.
6) Even if he has some reputation, never send all the money in one transfer: send one first small tranche (ex. 0.05 btc) and wait for his payment. Send a second little higher tranche and wait again, etc. Small increments, because he might decide to pay you the first and second, to scam a bigger tranche. Always suspect if he doesn't accept to trade in small tranches, unless he has an excellent reputation.
7) If he has no reputation (specially if he is a newbie or Jr.), even small tranches are very risky. Better use an escrow system, like the one of www.btcrow.com, or a trusted member, or you might need to send more than 10 very small tranches. Think well before sending more than 0.15 btcs (it's considerable money in some countries) and only after 3 or 4 successful payments of 0.05 and 0.1 btcs.
8] For big amounts use an escrow system, unless the member has an excellent reputation. If he doesn't accept, forget the deal. Always protect your capital.
9) Only trade codes (ex. of virtual gift cards) with members with a very good reputation or using a very trusted escrow member that will have to go to the account and apply the code himself. The buyer will have to give the escrow person his password and change it again after. With an automatic escrow system, the buyer can claim falsely that the code was already redeemed when he received it or that his account was blocked after.
10) Don't sell any cryptocoin to paypal or other reversible system, unless the buyer has good reputation. The buyer can chargeback and, since it's against paypal's TOS to trade currency, paypal usually gives your money back to the buyer.


Here is a list of escrow members: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

This is another reason bitcointalk.org should have an appraisals section created.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192090.msg1989926#msg1989926

Is there an actively maintained scammer list anywhere? Would like to add the name "crymo" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111941 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111941)) to it.

Ripped me off for 500 YAC/0.25 BTC

Post it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Present evidence of your transfer to him, like the transfer id and, if possible, a scan of a message from him stating his address to where you sent the transfer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195544.msg2032797#msg2032797
pls add this one to the scammer list

I disagree with a few of the points.


100%? NEVER? I trade with newbies all the time. This is a ridiculous stereotype of members here. This is just retarded.


No, this correlated with my response to 0.


Look at my name. My username is my First name. Have I ever scammed anyone? No. I use a combination of my First and Last name on some forums. Ridiculous.


--Simran Singh


Oh, yeah, cause females don't exist on the internet. Sexist? Probably not, but this is not true.

Like all "human sciences rules", those "characteristics" certainly don't intend to be exact (alright, the 100% on newbies is an exaggeration, but to exaggerate is part of the way someone makes others aware of certain dangers), their goal seems to be to raise reservations on certain members based on past experience. Some scammers do adopt female names as a way to better scam men or adopt normal names as nicks trying to inspire trust.
I wouldn't make a list of suspects based only on those "characteristics", out of respect for their reputation, but, from a collective interest perspective, it might be very useful.

Good post.

Simran, I agree. People are quite stereotypical around here.
Really pisses me off.

Point 0 is absolutely correct almost 50% of the time.  You'll agree so if you were getting the mountainous scam report PM's like I get daily...

Scammer awareness is a great way to further prevent the issues that have been arising recently. It's becoming such a joke really.

Thanks for this topic, it's a great way for people to realise the environment they're dealing in.

^^ Listen to this guy. He got 1000 LTC stolen right from his own BTC-E account, so he's definitely the picture of perception and awareness.

And want to know the awesome part? I got 2000 LTC back from the same dude that hacked me. I ain't complaining.

Please read carefully what he said.


Seriously, this is the truth. I'm sick and tired of seeing yet another 'zomg Imma got hacked my pants off' thread/PM. >:(

When I was a newbie, I traded with newbies. You just gotta analyze the situation in more depth, because this point is too broad.

What I find funny is that so many people complain about my trolling yet I'm likely one of the most honest people on this forum...sometimes brutally honest.

But never scammed anyone nor ever intend to.

It is always the self proclaimed saviors that offer x% on your money if you send it to them blah blah blah.

Scammers in my book are the equivalent of PUSSIES who are too afraid to go hack it (no pun intended) on their own. Damn mamma's boys.  :D :D :D

Was there talk of an escrow bot? Wouldn't that fix the scamming issue?

Since I m on this list.
Please list my exchange as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176877.msg1841315#msg1841315

Mark,that helps a lot.
But how can i become a full member

Jr./Full member is tied to post count, specifically.  That is why the member type alone shouldn't account for much, if anything.  Just today I saw a member who has over 500 posts with an account just 17 days old.  I have been around since Jan 2012 - older than some, not older than others - and have just recently become a full member myself.

Very helpful post.

1.000.000 bitcoins needed to build spacecraft.
will send them back with interest when i reach  planet Nibiru

Donations Accepted : 1KeS7fsryzCb1LkrVWscWaug5rqhvFAwuR

^ Good stuff! Post your schematics of the propulsion system please.  :P

Thx for the morning laugh.
Other than that excellent job!!!

Thanks for the news

You forget to add:

-new XXX coin that has no real use, it's a copy-paste with a cute website and, the owner claims it's going to replace bitcoin / skyrocket because x and y.

(only miners that get magic internet money buy this with their new minted money... thus pumping)

Also btc-e-troll-box-speak:

to the moon! : my assets just multiplied 2x, 3x, 5x, i'm selling as fast as i can without plunging the price.

bitcoin crash! /Gox down /bitcoin now illegal : i just sold my bitcoins, at current*1.2 price i want to buy them even cheaper!

X-coin will be in gox: i just bought x
x-coin dropped from gox, plunged, crashing, forked... : i just sold

This is a great repository of information for the noobies, and long time members as well.  Bookmarked, thanks!

Yes, helpful post. Thx.

This is a very useful guide. It is extremely important to use a trusted escrow when trading with people you do not trust.

Looking at your trust score i dont know what to say.

Good to know about scammers thanks!

With all the announcements on this board you would think people would be a bit original in their way of "anncouncing".  Most threads seem to have "[ANN]".  ;D

I'm somewhat new to this, but I have a question.

Why would I trade directly with another person at all? I use the exchanges myself to trade my mined coins, and haven't had any problems at all. Course I've only been doing this for 4 months now, and have only done a few trades.

Took me forever to figure out how to get out of newbie jail on this forum, talk about frustrating!!

Appreciate all the tips about scams though.

Also, a note. I don't have a use for ianything, so won't buy those.

I don't care about whether someone is male or female when conducting business, I think that comment/stipulation is very sexist and silly.

I get the impression that some time in the past, the only way to obtain bitcoins was thru individuals, which isn't the case now.

Trading for fiat yes you should maybe use an exchange.

But you can't purchase goods on an exchange unless the exchange has its own market place for buying and selling goods.                                 

Thanks for the info.

Nice informations for (us) newbies, i will take care

One trait you should add to the list above is he sort of wrote in broken english.
i will add details of the scam in the proper thread

Thanks for the info, i will trade with extreme caution every time now!

i got scammed by jovani75
here is his profile there:
http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=279

he confirmed he had an acocunt here by PMing me with the same nickname and account here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=155646

this is the "public thread" where i ask to do the exchange/confirm.
bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=326.0

the negative review i left on his profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=155646

Oh, yeah, cause females don't exist on the internet. Sexist? Probably not, but this is not true.
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This is ridicouls, 10% of miners are females. Maybe he has a problem with females, but not me.

I agree in RL you dont trust to women :D

Great informative post plus discussions

Reminder. Had to remind a rl client that alts are like penny stocks. Keep in mind that alts are unproven, most want to get value to get btc. Most once hit an exchange are abandoned. To the new folks. Read the specs of the coin you are buying.

As an aside. The fact that non techie clients are talking about alts, means that this is just the beginning of the alt boom. ::insert spartan's hold image:::

I LOL'd at 8   :D

I'm not posting much, but I am reading and lurking around. Therefore I'll always have that "newbie" status. Isn't it easy to use trading sites like mtGox or btc-e to trade you're altcoins. And sites like bitonic (euro only) to cash out? That way the chances are that you are a victim of scamming is like pretty non existing?

Learn heaps. Very useful info. Thanks!

So you are basically ruining my chance of doing any deals at all, just because I'm not an active poster?
That is madness.

Of course I agree that an escrow is always to be used. It's just about picking the right one.

Thanks for the information.it is so nice to the newbie like me

i am here to trade tons of coin, u guys send me first then i send u, ok?

i have mirrions u just send me frist ok? i know u think sometimes its not safe to trade with people on interwebs but its safe.

for today only if u send me 5 BTC i will return you 50000000x profit gtd. i use advanced investment strategy to maximise returns. i send the coins to china where they are cleaned and serviced, then they move them along to the west, through Damascus. here there are inspected and graded according to numericalologiness and then allotted tentative departure dates. we don't ship them, they fly first class. straight to Honolulu. from there the coins are treated to a day at the spa in waimea, followed by a traditional Hawaiian bbq. the coins stay at the five star Hilton Waikoloa and then the next morning its back on the jet over to America. here they will attend a one-day intensive coin training course, designed by the top coin professionals in the industry. this rigorous program will culminate with a battle between all the coins. in a round-robin format they will be eliminated by cutting the bottom 90% from each round, until only one coin is left. this coin is then declared the ultimate winner of the coin of the year award, and is now priceless. the remaining coins which were cut are all flushed down the toilets right there in the trade center to be swallowed by mackerels in the harbor and distributed globally. the winning coin is now flown directly to Norway via private jet (G7 experimental, who cares were ballers now) then from there is loaded into the alien spacecraft for the flight to Germany.

now here is where it gets interesting. its actually going to arrive in Germany 2 days before all this started. something to do with time dilation and dimensional wormholes, its all too much for our tiny minds to get wrapped around, just know that the coin will appear in Germany 2 days before you send me your BTC, so the investment is secure. you have actually already been guaranteed a profit before you even started!

all you have to do is start thinking about sending me the coin, and 2 days ago your coin already appeared in Germany!

so right now your priceless coin of the year supercoin wow so much coin appreciate coin is waiting to be shipped directly to you from our top secret facility in Germany. all you will need to do is provide your shipping information and it will be packaged according to your specifications and shipped with a carrier of your choosing, insured for 400 billion dollars (the maximum, we checked) so you are safe no matter what happens. alternatively it will be shipped by military transport plane to a suitable airstrip of your choosing anywhere in the world. this transport is escorted by a 7-10 man security force/counterstike team armed with military assault weapons and carrying special diplomatic status. upon arrival at the destination airstrip a convoy of local security forces will rendezvous with the escort security force and transportation to the drop point will commence immediately. there will be a 15 minute pickup window, after which time our team will clear the area for extraction if the drop has been unsuccessful.

in the event of a failed drop your coin *WILL* be delivered by 4th dimensional aliens 2 days prior to the day it arrived in Germany.(4 days before you thought of sending me the coin) You almost certainly will not want to miss the drop as the aliens that work with us don't appreciate being sent on errands to deliver priceless coin of the year coins to humans, and already have a general disregard for humans as a species. consider the  possibility that they will alter your memory of events that have transpired. (were pretty sure theyre doing it, but we cant get any proof of course, we cant remember anything they don't want us to) You may find that you don't remember ever receiving your priceless coin of the year coin 4 days ago after you invest with me. rest assured, this is likely just a result of the alien memory cleansing. after 4 more days have passed then the 4th dimensional negative universe should have re-synced with your frame of reference and your coin will reappear in your wallet. it was there the whole time but you couldn't see it because your reality was pitch shifted 90 degrees from the polar center of the supermega galaxy so that you were half synced with the 4th dimensional negative universe, and the coins' was not, it only existed on a parallel timeline, an implication of the time paradox of it being delivered 4 days before you thought about investing.

so not all new members are scammers and rip off artists, some of us are running legitimate global businesses and just because we don't have a high post count doesn't mean your investment isn't guaranteed secured by #1 to the moooooon!


BTC - 18GABSizDLAeh91cysDFZgCL8xyjm4Sght

LTC - Leiefg1fQyaTqGVGRC5L1b1gBSWdDn2jpV

Haha, these are usually true, but the 100% chance of being scammed isn't exactly accurate.

why im not recieveing investors/?

limited time offer!!!

Guys beware of a user named LALA scammed me out of litecoin last night.

He or she is trading for earthcoin mostly it seems. LALA seems to be fairly active on the forum also, but after running a check on the name I see I'm not the only one who has been caught out!

I should have been more careful and lesson learned.

 ::)

Make sure to post in this users scammer thread with details/evidence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386535.0

Thanks for this, OP!

All Newbies should be pointed to this when they join.

whats the best way to buy coins with USD?

Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER. This is my new motto thank you :) Forum sites generally full of danger not only newbies but also usual members.

Thank you for the info, I am new here and there is a bug in the forum! I logged in 10 minutes ago, this is my first post and it still says my last post was less then 360 sec ago!

How is it possible while I am only reading the forum????

Is this some kind of sick joke??

Dude, wonderful post. I saw "someone" who shall go unnamed say that since they are a "trusted" member that if someone refuses to go first then they are a scammer. If you spend any amount of time on forums where people buy/trade expensive items its almost always the big trusted members that pull of the big scams.

I never ever go first on a trade, unless you're obviously "the man," but if I did it would be in small increments like you suggested. Great post, that should be stickied.

Just got scammed by YeeYay of 0.15 btc.

I have posted proof here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430648.460 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430648.460)

and here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430648.480 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430648.480)

He is still denying it and lying but I have brought all the messages and transaction.

Please help me ban this scammer no other person needs to be left without money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430648.msg4870113#msg4870113

Escrow, got it!

"Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER"

Wow What a Golden Rule!

Thanks for this warm reminder anyway.

Nice, really informative thread. Thanks

Excellent warnings from experience. 

1. Always use escrow.
2. 2. Always use escrow.
3. 2. Always use escrow.

Just dodge a bullet two times. Tons of seller but when asking escrow they are all gone  ;D ;D

Thanks for author，we should care for this thing.THANKS

Thank you for the info and for the warnings. I want to trade some coins so I want to use escrow service as suggested. Please if you can post or send me a PM of some escrow services as currently know about 2 services and one is not online any more.

Thank you very much,
Ivan.

Here is a list of escrow members: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0
You also have escrow sites: http://btcrow.com (1.55%) or  https://mitm.io (free)

If you think you were scammed, just open a thread about the issue on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
If you are not shore if that was a scam, open a thread on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=85.0
But you can always talk first with the exchange and threat to post about the issue if not solved.

What an evil world. I hate the scam. And thank U of your information to a noob like me.

Good advice. Sometimes newbies are old wolves!  :o

that's such a shame, i feel sorry for you mate, as a bitcointalk.org n00b i look foward to earning my 1st +trust point!

 I agree that an escrow is always to be used.thank for imformation

Okden

Thanks for the info, it's really good to get up those as quick as possible for newcomers here, so all those newbies post about being scammed can be over.. Anyway better safe than sorry

hi im just a newbie too... how can i have business with other hero member or higher rank if almost all of them are ignoring us NEWBIES. accusing scammer or whatever.. isnt its just discriminating us?  :(

You will have to trust SOME of the older members with good reputation and go first. They will give you positive trust and eventually you will become a trusted member.

We should be more aware when dealing with  sellers,products.There are plendy of malpractices on different products in the society !! ;D

Thank you very much for sharing this information. Thanks for the concern. This is certainly true and everyone should be more aware.

Is there a list of the highest ranking trusted members to trade with?

Check this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484.0

However, usually, you can check the reputation of the member by clicking the link trust, under his avatar.

so you mean any newbie person make deal with newbies it must be scam?

Another sign: when you are a reputable member like me, and when you ask the noob to send first and suddenly they stop replying to your PM. Scammer! Maybe I should start a list in the public interest?

Latest possible scammer(s):

- penetration -> confirmed scammer has scammed multiple people



EDIT: I have decided I will keep this list updated and maintained. (and of course remove people who later turn out not to be scammers - but if they are genuinely looking for a trade and have only about 100 posts why would they not send first to someone like me? Hopefully I can help everyone here)

It makes more sense to create a scammers list on a new thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

But, probably, you should wait until you have some more activity.

what is escrow

there are some people who are using your name with tomatocage1@hotmail.com and saying this email id is escrow, please tell people what's your actual email to use you as escrow

Escrow is using a trustworthy middle man, that will receive the thing for sale and the payment and send them to the other party, in order to avoid scams.

use yobit for trading alt coins. as simple as that

This Information is so useful. thank,s for that. But what happened if don,t trust anyone!!! You know? there someone you need to believe? ???

is there any bot database where can i find efficient bot for certain coin?

Simran, I agree. People are quite stereotypical around here.
Really pisses me off.
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I quite agree with a lot of the things mentioned here. Scammers usually pose as females even when they are not, because they know people tend to see females as being incapable of harming... or something like that.


It's better to be safe than sorry :-\

Thanks. Good information. But problem is too many fraud traders everywhere. So it is really difficult to find actual traders.

Who gets the information anyway ?

  Studying,Thank you very much.

thanks for  your answer

thanks for inormation. The information is very helpful

That good information, before getting into the business we must seek information and background regarding that business and try to know the person you are negotiating in order to avoid scammers. Or else you will cry!

Scammers are learning and improvising every time when the come out with new schemes. You are simply responsible for yourself and take everything with a pinch of salt. There many accounts in bitcointalk that have legendary rank and have been here for more than 1 year, sold to scammers and then scammers use the same to scam innocent people. So just be careful.

Newbie here and this post is really helpful, i'm not familiar with the trust rating thingy tho?
Does it also indicate that people with high rating on trust are people we need to transact with. Also how do you even get that trust rating, i saw someone with -2, does that mean that he is a scammer?

Who make me have the bitcoin.

Is there any board here in bitcointalk where we may found the general list of all scammers including their violations and punishment given by our organization? We need it to guide us all..like other government agencies they posted illegal company/recruitment agencies to avoid for doing any transactions? Please make a board for that which is easy to find. Thank you.

many way to earn btc buying bitcoin and invest in any trasted wabsite is this only way and minning of btc and i have also a factual wabsite

thanks for your information sir :)
i will read rule before :)

Hello
i want to use escrow.
who can i meet ?

whatsapp: +447565760703
ICQ  643505558

 Your information is good but some newbies are trustworthy

There may be some newbie who became a scammer but I do not
This information really helps me to be more alert as a newbie thanks a lot

thank you for the information you gave..
now i know how to be safe my money..

I Agree What I've Read , Thanks For The Informations About Trading ..

Thanks for the information, it is very important to know the newcomers. Are there any other rules to protect yourself?

The only way to protect yourself is don't deal to a scammer, which do have a negative/red ratings... Also don't trust easily to the users you don't even really know. Always use well known and trusted escrow if needed. If you want to do it in a company or website better to ask here first.

thanks for this information really helps me to be more alert

More and more people is coming in this new world,
or is making a step foward to future....

this post should be a must for all new people that's coming in,
it's teachs also how really should be done the things

thanks for creating it

Very nice tips, but I am a newbie here, how to use escrow ? Choose an escrow services and make deal with escrow and seller ? I've been seen some signature campaign and saw a code, this code describe escrow message and address with a code like md5 code (dont know that) what is that code for ?

What will happen if I decide to trade with a credible person without involving escrow.

Thank you for the tips! Would appreciate more info on the escrow :)

What is the best way to ensure we are interacting with a trustworthy member? Many users are offering to help us with services but we are not sure who is a reliable member.

If that person is credible and trusted, you can have successful deal with him but still it's always been advisable to deal with escrow.


Good questions, there's a list of trusted escrow ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0)  and you are the one to choose of whom you want to ask. You can also see the trust rating of that guy and that will tell his worth as an escrow.

Thank you very much for the enlightenment that has been given, hopefully after reading this many who are not complacent with the persuasion that lead to bankruptcy itself

Not all the newbie are scams, but even though I am a newbid I have to agree that you have to be cautious with newbids, thay have nothing to lose. But on the other hand thieves can build up their status and than jack you for your money.

 ;DeWallets are good if you are on the go or dealing with pocket change. If you want to control your own security and be independant, you will need a Client. A Client is an application that manages your Wallet independently from third party software on your computer. With it, you become your own bank.
There are many Clients out there. The one developed by the core team is the Standard Client, also known as Bitcoin-QT. You can download it. After you start it, it will synchronise itself with the Bitcoin Network. It might be a long process and take up a couple gigabytes of your hard drive space, but this is the way to ensure nobody is trying to cheat.
Once that is done, the Client will control your Wallet file. Be sure to protect it with a password and back it up regularly. It is stored in a file called "wallet.dat" in your Bitcoin data directory. If you lose it or it gets stolen, you lose your money. ???

Thanks for the information on how to prevent being scammed. And guess some status will be a good indicator for this.

Thank you for giving us tips and information. Be cautious everyone.

Well said sir. Thank you for giving this kind of info sor. Well appreciated.

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What will happen after that sir? atleast now I have an idea. Thank you for that sir.

thanks for this information. it help a lot of people.

Thx for this VALUABLE information.

Thank you for awarning

Thank you very much for the enlightenment that has been given, hopefully after reading this many who are not complacent with the persuasion that lead to bankruptcy itself

Very useful and necessary information. Thank you.

Valuable information, especially for the beginner.

Can I ask whats the meaning of "escrow"? Thank you

thank you for all the info,its very enlightening to say the least.ive been very scepticle about these kinds of trades.if you value your money just do a little research.the info is out there for all to educate themselves,you just have to put the time in.

Its very useful information so be aware about of this.

And NEBER do not open links from letter at your email box. Example link with MyEtherWallet.

Good information.

Thanks for useful information.
Good luck for us!

i can't thank you enough - the information is really worth it.

I'm a Newbie;
1. thank you for the information
2. I will be careful if doing business on the internet.
3. Please advise if there are any ads, people, or other scamer stuff especially at bitcointalk.org

The information is really clear for us to understand well. I'll just take note of this information for me to be able to be more vigilant in any transaction that has to be taken.

Many many thanks for the information :)

Thanks for information.  :P

I'm a newbie, Thanks for this post!

Thanks for the information

Good question, I'm following this too. How can new members distinguish the scammers and the real ones.

Thank you for the these boss, Im very happy atleast I have an idea to those who just scam you because Im also a victim of it.

Hi,
This is an interesting paragraph. Is there any thread about this topic somewhere?
On the other hand, each one starts. So it probably is not the best idea to manage only the rank of a given member

Thanks for this nice information sir, i will always remind this especially I'm new in this kind of industry & scammer is all around and looking for someone to be victimize. I agree that we should be vigilant & always read to be inform which is good to everyone of us.

Thanks a lot for the information. Will try to keep an eye out for scammers. One more heuristic I use is seeing the founding team, whether they have linked their actual profiles to LinkedIn etc. so we can see their history. And also how many of the members of the team have a development background. If none, it's most likely a hustle. If everyone is a dev, then probably they wouldn't be sell their product so a bad investment regardless. Best is a mixture of both.

Many thanks to this sir, its really important to have escrow in a campaign to be more secure in everything.

How it will be done? I dont have really an idea how to really use cryltocurrenct. I really wanna know because most of you find it more easier to use.

Thanks for the information, very useful!

Yes thank you for this boss it help us a lot for us to know who is the scammer is, Because of this we need to be vigilant in all things. Thanks.

in Brazilian P2P market is also really common to get documents of the people who you are negotiating with
and ask for recommendations (other people they negotiated before)
if you want to avoid exchanges and buyon the p2p.

Thanks for the advice ... helps a lot ..

Quite useful information, very useful for new users of the forum

I have a question, that maybe you could answer. I come from the world of penny stocks where the norm was the pump and dump. In Crypto , aside from the promoters owning stock, how else do they make money? Are they charging for the pumps,?  Are group members paying for the info?


Are the companies paying for the promotions?


Thank you in advance?

Thanks for the post.  As someone getting started it's helpful to find that the community here is keeping a watchful eye out for these kinds of things!

wow this thread is really helpfull

Even if a hero member can also be a scammer, don't trust anyone unless you know them already, and they are already familiar with you, but there are instance that an account can be hack by hackers and use it to scam people. That is also dangerous. Let's all be careful for what we are doing first and think twice before doing a business with one another.

In most cases, it turns out that it's better not to deal with friends or novices with business. At first everything goes well but then the quarrels begin and the relations are clarified and the money is to blame for all this. With friends you need to be friends and work and business with friends is not compatible.

good informations.
nice and usefull list, many thanks.  :)

Thank you for this additional knowledge, I've learned something new again tonight.

Very important thing imo. Scammers are increasing insanely with time.

Thanks for the tip. I will definitely remember this one by the time I have become a veteran on bitcoin.

We are newbie, but we disagree with this. We often have questions such as :
How can you be trustworthy enough as a new platform for all potential ICO participants, who may be afraid to send their money to a 3rd party and not directly to the ICOs they would be interested in? There were so many scams recently with fraudsters hijacking the ICO participation addresses, so people may simply believe this is one of them.
1. TokenDesk founders are well known entrepreneurs, marketing specialists and developers. There are no reasons why you couldn’t make your own background check on every each of them as all information is public. Also, we encourage you to contact them personally if you feel like it.
2. our token has been audited by www.avocad.lt - a well respected law firm, a part of CICERO - league of international lawyers. They have performed a HOWEY test on TDS token which resulted in absolute approval stating - TDS not being any kind of financial security.
3.  after the initial coin offering will end, our TDS token will be listed on widely trusted and well known token exchange platforms - Kraken, BittFinext and Bitrex.

thanks for nice thread

thanks for your information. this is what I want ;)

i join this discord they helping me in trading https://discord.gg/3rpnTZc they call out nice signal when to buy and the to sell.

Thank you for the advice bro
For newbie like me i have to read all the information like this

really nice information.
what bounties can seem reliable?
can I use my ether wallet and share it with my friend, who takes part in other bounty?

thank you for advise /
iam new , and i want just to know how traders know wen the coin "up" or "down"..... time to buy and sell any coin ... etc?
please help me .
thank you  <3

world of crypto is rough !! ???

how to do this using escrow? and what does it mean?

Thank you very much for the information.
I'm interested and planning to buy and trade bitcoin and other altcoin and as a newbie, I still don't  know where and how to start, I still studying the trading system and all the pieces of information and warnings here will be a great help. And yes you have to be wise and careful dealing with people you don't know as the experts would always say the internet is full of scams.

Can I have a detailed guide of how create escrow from Electrum

Please provide if possible instructions for Electrum escrow, thank you in advance

Your exactly right ..as a newbie better to ask question for the Sr. member, full member and legendary member cause of they know the information and have a knowledge about this  ...hope gaining knowlegde here.. thanks a lot for this thread.

Everyone just have to be extra. cautious. The infos are very good ones. Keep it up guys, let's create a save and healthy environment for our cryptocurrency trading.

Yes its better read first before we  delivered our information especially in this kind of business.Bitcoin  is not like an easy conversation its talk about future progress in our country .

Has anyone ever bought any coins with escrow? With a 3rd party

Its a very helpful information for All.

How do I use an escrow?

we should have also updated list of scammer..
its better to transact people with high ranking. its so easy to make another new account to scam.. so always transact to the veteran one

This information is really helpful. I am brand new here and have got tans of information and suggestions already. But I plan to trust only to those who have positive trust only. I hope that will stay me safe.

Etherdelta link to sell my bln5 and piggy.

Thanks man. I almost got burned.
New guys definitely should watch out, there are to many scams.
If you still want to invest use small amounts of money first.
Be vise.

thanks for guiding us!

Please use English. This is english thread.
I'm newbie here, still learning english...
Thaks...

saw this post thanks for the info..

What escrow means??

And also be very aware of all these technical analysis scams and videos on youtube. TA is very hard to learn and understand and way harder to trade.

Thank you very much for this info. Really helpful.

Thanks for the info!

be careful everyone!

I think this is quiete reasonalbe. When I was starting online business, I have spent some time to find the right experienced people who were willing to share experience. I think that this is one of the main key to success in online investement!

İmportant subject. Thanks. I think small amount trading must be with Legendary , Hero , Sr. member ..or veteran member. But big amount trade use escrow.

Thanks for information :)

How do you spot a scam

Well, sometimes it's not easy to spot a scam. The main rule of thumb is: if it's too good to be true, it's probably a scam.

Before doing any trade, or sending money to any party, do some research on them. Check their reputation, see their trust feedback if you're going to trade with another Bitcointalk member or search their name on Google. For a safer transaction, always use escrow as OP said and never ever send money to an unknown stranger on the internet, even if their offer is really good.

Thank you for the information

Thanks for the information. It is indeed timely and useful.

I am new here as these transactions are made and why I would like to learn a little more information very useful here and I have found however very careful and little thank you very much    ???

I see many people complain about being scammed while trading. These are new members. They do not know how to prevent. Insurance should be needed

Thank you for the great tips. Serve as guidelines especially for the newbies.

Yes of course must do always research.. if u are newbie in trading ..
If u are newbie youtube tutorial helps.. and google helps.. if you are eager then research first and see tutorials for trading..

any advise how to trade please ?

excellent information i get. before i get scammed. thanks for your valuable information.

Im glad there's a thread like this in the forum , a guideline for everybody who wanted to enter the trading industry .
We know now that there are many scammers here in the forum , they are trying to make friend with you and eventually steal your accounts or money.
We need to become aware of this. Thank you sir for this ! I really appreciate this. :)

Beware of new friends offering low price than the trading price like bitcoins....It's better to make a video call, an escrow that you can trust...be vigilant cause scammer is everywhere....

I'm done, i bought iota when it was in its highest price, 5.70 usd, i used BTC and now to get back the same BTC, iota needs to arrive 8.5 usd, yisus!!!!!

pd:i used 0.118 BTC

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i agree with you about that

Good advice for noob, i used an escrow too, when i was younger, so it is a smart way, because first time you shoudnt risk with it.
alos lately i hear many stories about guyz that was scammed because they wanted some btc but ofcourse without any information lost their money

I am new here, thanks for information  :)

Yes there are lot of scammers in bitcoin forum today and this is really a great information to me because I am also a newbie and I am so grateful to you for making this thread for us. This is really a help. 

Commit mistakes, without them, how? But thanks for the warning.It would be good if people learn through the mistakes of others

I have too many things to learn.. This is my first lesson.. Thank you..

I guess escrow should be use in any case independently of rank

hello,
your information is more helpful.can you please help in trading by suggesting the best traders? 

thanks for the information about the escrow thing..
im a newbie and it really help me a lot, this will be my reminder

How do I know better or good token to buy.

Hello BCT members,

I'm new to this but very interst in digital crypto currency, Thanks you so much for spending your time to share these information with us. This is really important news for us.
Looking for ward to work witnh you in Future.

Have a great day,

Thanks

The situation and the modalities to curb such issues doesn't come in a 'one size fits all'.
I'm new here but not new to so many platforms

Thank you for your information. I'm a newbie so this is useful for me.

Good to be here atleast I will get something to learn

BtC is not ready yet little consolidation for the moment.

This is a great information for us people that are new and that wants to engage in bitcoin without proper knowledge. This is a great help thanks :)

This information is very interesting, should beginners must always cooperate with seniors who have a lot of experience,
and to avoid scammers, choose a reputable escrow

Thank you very much.To warn us of new initiatives like :) :)

Yobit this is the growing stock exchange crypto currency .

I was near to be scam before with other newbie who are advertising and getting their victims through personal message. Thanks for this reminder and I have read it.

I laughed at this. You need an escrow, btw, based on the earlier posts.  ;D ;D ;D

Wow!  This never occurred to me.. I would be looking at these factors of I wanna trade with any one...
But I do think whether a newbie or an old timer here... It doesn't matter... What matters is identifying trust in both parties and executing a trade.

hi guy how to be going to ricking with ICO ? u will help me?

yes bro,
The information is more important before buying any cryptos in the market....
Newbie should be very caution while buying and trading....

I agree that you always need to be cautious about newcomers who offer to participate in a business project. Invest in such projects are all the same, that just throw the money in the garbage can.

Always make sure that the person you are doing business online is reliable and has the credibility. Do your research beforehand so that you are knowledgeable.

scammer will do a lot of thing to get money from you, anyone could be a scammer in this kind of business and trust has a big role on this. so be aware of  all your transactions guys...

Some business tips for india would be highly appreciated. Buy/sell oppurtunities

Thank you very much for that.

very good post !
thanks man

Scammers are learning and improvising every time when the come out with new schemes. You are simply responsible for yourself and take everything with a pinch of salt. There many accounts in bitcointalk that have legendary rank and have been here for more than 1 year, sold to scammers and then scammers use the same to scam innocent people. So just be careful.

These are excellent rules that will help beginners to save their money from scammers. I myself have always adhered to these rules. You never need to have business with newcomers, there are a lot of people with a good reputation who take care of it. Thanks for such simple and effective advice

Thanks for your Subject 

Even if he has some reputation, never send all the money in one transfer: send one first small tranche (ex. 0.05 btc) and wait for his payment. Send a second little higher tranche and wait again, etc. Small increments, because he might decide to pay you the first and second, to scam a bigger tranche. Always suspect if he doesn't accept to trade in small tranches, unless he has an excellent reputation.

Thanks for this information, it really helps.

thank you very much, sir! hope to learn more.

Hello. Which is the best way to crypto for fiat?
Thanks

thank you for the information

Very useful post. Thank you

Important information for the beginners in cryptotrading  :)

Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER"

Wow What a Golden Rule!

Thanks for this warm reminder anyway.

Very good explanation for the newbies :)

Thanks very useful information

Thank you for giving us tips and information. Be cautious everyone.

Great to know, thanks for shared.
I'm newbie too :(

Btw, it is a good recommend for other newbies who want to get started in cryptocurrency. Nothing is truth until you found something good enough.

Cheers,

yeah this really great message and it helped me lot in the about the trading and buying the altcoins and more.......

Good to be here,  another lesson learned today!! Thank you for your advice Sir.

Thanks for the information

Thank you very much for your advice.it will help a lot.

Thanks for  information. :)

previous thanks for this information.
too many fake projects for now, this information is very helpful to all colleagues who are here

This was a little terrifying for newbies.
You over underestimated them.

Thanks for the nice thread and posts!

Thank you for the valuable information. I as a beginner will be very thorough and listen to good advice from friends who are more experienced in facing the problem of fraud. Very interesting discussion

Hello, as I'm newbie here I understand that doing some trades with other will be a little bit more difficuilt due to 0 trust. Just asking for some hints. :)

- Which escrow services do you recommend for trading altcoins for LTC/BTC/ETH?
- Is it possible/or do you recommend to use coinbase.com wallet for receiving above mentioned altcoins? I'm not sure about fees for receiving altcoins there and if there are any special rules which I have to take care about..

For big amounts use an escrow system, unless the member has an excellent reputation. If he doesn't accept, forget the deal. Always protect your capital

Hi! I want to join Bounty Campaign

This is a very useful guidelines and advice to all specially to the newbies like me. This will help us a lot and serves as a reminder also.

Thank you very much

Thanks for the advice and information.  I gain useful tips  and more knowledge. thank you God Bless to us  :) :) :)

just want to become a junior member of this forum

Ok.!

Thank you. I am also new!

Thanks U

Thanks. That's right! :-\

A lot of advice shared from seniors here, it is clear that comprehensive study is required to do any business not only in bitcointalk but I think in our daily activity.

Thanks for the info.

Before you make any transaction or send money to any party, do some research on them. Check their reputation, see their feedback on trust, if you are going to trade with another Bitcointalk member or look for your name on Google.

Thanks for the info.

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thanks for the guide sir, I've never deal in anyone here but if i have to. i would like it in person if he/she can't came up on this i wouldn't like any transaction either. this post is old but rich in ideas.

Your hints and advise are very well appreciated. They are all true. If all the steps highlighted are strictly followed and considered before trading with anybody, hardly can anyone be scammed. However, this is not useful for newbies alone. It still serve as caution for every other member on this forum.

Try your best to pick the best coin you can afford to buy, it is always nice to have afriend or someone who is in the cryptocurrency field for a long time trading, to get knowledge about bitcoin or any kind of cryptocurrency

It is a shame what the world has come too! people preying on others! It gets worse and worse!

Beware of new friends offering a lower price than the trading price, as bitcoins .... It is better to make a video call, escrow, which you can trust.

Join now!!

https://discord.gg/Bgjt8BV

Thanks for the info.

Gotta be really cool seing all these posts when they get at least a member status.

My mistakes were: believing what people say in chats.

Good information, thanks!

thanks for your advice. hope it will be ok :)

forums are useful things. they help not to get into a bad situation

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Weiss Ratings, an independent U.S. agency which recently published letter grades for cryptocurrencies, has issued an alert to investors about the dangers of tether (USDT). It highlights common fears about the stablecoin which is claimed to be fully covered by U.S. dollar reserves.(The goal is to shave the hamsters)
(self-build analysis)
“The big issue: There’s never been an audit, and the folks behind Tether has been quite shady when asked. They have continuously claimed their tokens are backed 100% by actual dollars, yet they have failed to present any evidence to support this claim. On social media, there appears to be consensus that what Tether is actually doing is running a fractional reserve system. In other words, most observers claim they DO NOT have the dollars to back up all those Tether coins.

oh my god  new ICO:

please  come..love you  ;D ;D

https://referral.current.us/?mwr=6402-63233d61

Thanks for the heads up! really helpful. Need to be careful... Scammers and frauds are everywhere these days  :( :( :(

Thanks buddy for the info.

thank you for the info, it is very helpful for newbies who are new to the world of trading

Thanks for this...this can go a long way in helping to prevent someone from losing his hard earned cash

Thank for good information . im a newbie and i will read all comment.

bagus dan bermanfaat

I like the honesty

Great info, this thread and others like this, give valuable data for all crypto members!

Thank u for giving this great information

I think if you don't have money to spare you should definitely look into all the airdrops going on right now.
There are a few websites that offer lists of them too.
We also are offering one: https://thorium.exchange/
 ;D

Thanks for the advice.

thanks for information

I agree with what you said there is no one that exceed scamming most people in crypto world want to out smart the other person because once someone is good at reading insights to data he or she will know when to pump out coins and mostly newbies are always a victim. Legendary member that does this doesnt it mean he have scam the newbie because his yet to master this crypto trading

Helpful post for me.

Reading this forum can give us ideahowto do trading and even buying. This will us to understand more about bitcoin, I recommend this forum for a newbie like me. This is great!

Thanks for the information, highly needed at this crucial which so much projects are sprinkling out every minutes

completely agree.

excellent information and advice... amazing list well done for ur hard work... hope u were not scammed!! kkkk

Is there no other way to safely trade over the counter?  what does it mean to use escrow?

thanks.  im trying to figure out the best way to do this.

Thank you for very useful and educational comments.
I was lucky to read this comment which might be good to put in "Beginners and Help".

and how about yobit exchange ? my ucash withdrawl always proccesing in 3days , not confirmed . i ask support unread , not answer . Please give me solution .

At the same time, one should not forget that there is no absolute reliability and will not be either when working with crypto assets or with traditional financial operators. To be afraid of threats costs, but much more effective will be competent work with them...

I'm a newbie, please don't buy my coin, its a waste of money

this is really valuable information for newbies and people who engage in a business with other unknown parties. i always obey everyone's advice. 
I'll be safe in future when I do a business with newbies.

Trading in crypto is a great experience, my token experty and others have got hook on idex now, please can some one help me out on how to withdraw manual with mem.

thank for your infomation

This fact underscores the lack of any protection against fraud and, as if to some lobbyists, the crypto-currency did not want to blame the victim for his own mistake, which certainly exists, such as he is to blame. Nobody can protect anyone in case of refusal of an agreement by one of the parties. Moreover, when the transaction is made in conditions of contact through the Internet.Then they talked about the guarantor, so the appearance of that certainly entailed additional costs for the deal. There can not be free insurance.Plus the tool is decentralization and minus - the anarchy of the rules. Be careful in direct transactions. ;)

thanks for your post  ;D

Threats exist in any area of not only finance, but also life. Therefore, we must carefully adjust to such trends. If you invest, then the amount, you can lose without major disorders. I invest in ICO at $ 100

If you trading on reputable exchange like Binance, you should be safe. However which coin you choose, you have do the research.

Regards,
gmotion

Newbie here as well, im just tryna find my way here and getting the feel of the site, this is good advice for real.

Good advice for noob, I also used escrow when I was younger, so this is a reasonable way, because for the first time you risk this risk.

Now that the rank ,whitelist,and founder check list is still available to test ICO credentials, does anyone have some additional conditions to increase credibility?

These points are absolute truth. The reason why newbies easily get scammed is because a lot of them hardly come across an information like this which makes them to learn through hard experience

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I am new to the world of cryptocurrency

Can anyone please explane to me, how could i know if newbie accounts are scammers ?

U always need to make sure that the person u r doing business online is reliable and has the credibility. Lets do ur own research beforehand so that u r knowledgeable.

thanks for the very important information I will remember this.

i'm not against escrow and others garant.
But i have one question. What are the difference between people who have been here at least a year, and newbies? Or do you think, that there is no scammers between  OLD members?

I found this

https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@Dailyicoupdates

Thanks for the very important information.

Thanks for the information because i am new in bitcointalk

I believe using escrow is a good idea, though finding escrow agents is not an easy job. It's quite important, as it provides some kind of "credibility" in the community, and participants know that their funds are safe. A good escrow is normally a reputable member of the community, and there are some people providing this service on the "Services" board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
Always look out for good step to approach an ICO.

The basic criteria for an ICO:
1. Optimize your website
2. White Paper
3. Good Team
4. Good Marketing Strategy
5. Influencers Network (most important) like the telegram

The purpose of a legitimate ICO is to kickstart a project into fully scaled development with venture capital or private investing.
If you have enough knowledge about ICO you could not be scammed. So read alot.

I hope this makes sense, Mr.Tomatocage?

Where can I see a list of proposals of this kind?
And a list of reliable people?

I appreciate your view and experience, but you cant paint the whole picture black with Newbies. Remember even BITCOIN was a newbie in 2010. precaution is always helped but scaring people is different.
From 2016 and till date, top Scammers were Legendary, Senior Members who launched ICOs or were charging to promote ICOs and ran away with good people money.they all were big scammers.
every person is different and honest management is hard to find , but atleast give people chance.....

yeah, often it turns out that it's better not to deal with friends or novices with business. At first everything goes well but then the quarrels begin and the relations r clarified and the money is to blame for all this. With friends u need to be friends and work and business with friends isn`t compatible.

Font get it wrong, there are scammers everywhere waiting for different opportunities to prey on their targets but it’s more reasonable to deal with an escrow or an older member. This reduces the chance of being scammed significantly and also an older member may not want to risk being banned

I'm from 2018, is this advice still working?  ;D

absolutely truth

Highly appreciated this kind of advice, to all newbies like us we must be very vigilant in making a transaction in order to  avoid being scammed by others

Very good advice. I advise everyone to read.

Thanks.  This is more comphrensive and explanatory enough

any advise how to trade please ?

A lot of useful information/posts are here in this Topic for me as a newbie.
Many thanks. 

And what are the chances that people with a higher rank than a Newbie did not buy an account?
Chance of being cheated is always there

thank you for the information. for the first time, you can use escrow system but you should pay attention to your capital. just remember that before doing trading, you should check the reputation and all bout the project information. in order to minimize a scam. be careful!!

this is a very interesting project, I advise everyone to see

the most safe is to find a nice project and do hodl. other than that, you can lose money. but you do not lose money if the project you are doing hodl is good.

Your hints and advise are very well appreciated. They are all true. If all the steps highlighted are strictly followed and considered before trading with anybody, hardly can anyone be scammed. However, this is not useful for newbies alone. It still serve as caution for every other member on this forum.

Thanks you for this information. it is a useful reminder not for just a newbie only but to all of us.

Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER. I think agree with this opinion, as a newbie you have nothing to offer to your fellow newbie, not until you get to a higher level of membership. You can't actually have any business with your fellow newbie or any sort of transaction with any folks who is of the same level with you.
However, been a newbie doesn't necessarily make's one a scam but is of necessity that you understand the environment you are and what your into, in order to be careful with your dealings. This is one nice topic that help create awareness for all newbie that there are some fraudulent scam out there, so be careful.

so many spams . wtf.

hello, I found in my opinion a cool ICO, what do you think about it. Tell me what you think about it
/paladium.cc

i trayd it a lot of time to trade
but i had just success with hodl

You did a very good job. Congratulations. We have recently encountered such news very often. This is an issue that everyone should be careful. Not only investors because of this issue, the entire market is damaged.

Valuable information. Thanks for sharing!

indeed, the market is full of such people, you should always be careful and attentive not to lose your money and reputation! thank you very much for this post!

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Thanks for the security safety information. Information on security should be taken serious always. It will be a good practice  that any person in the forum who experienced or had a near experience of being scammed/duped should report. That way, we shall all be cautious of being scammed. Being well informed is a vital key to a successful cryptocurrency business. 

Being informed is a good way to avoid  from being hacked or scammed.Thanks for this useful information. I'll always remember this or maybe saving this link as a reminder for future purposes.

Thanks for sharing this list. This is a big help especially for a beginner like who's trying to navigate the ins and outs of the crypto world. I haven't traded yet, but planning to do it in the future.

Thanks for the information.

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION .JUST FOLLOW THE RULE THREE BEFORE FOLLOWING ANOTHER RULES ;D ;D

Never deal with friends or beginners. With friends, you need to be friends, and work and business will separate them from you.

thanks dev for the information and advice. this is very good information for new beginners who join the crypto world. with more and more good and useful information like this there is nothing else to be deceived.

I hate those scammers, they are all over the web...Nut they gain alot of bad karma...I hope they will buy candles with our money!

Useful information, thank you! but how do you look at using, for example, ISO clubs and trust management in general? on what criteria should you pay attention to newbies if they seek a partner outside of this forum?

Information is really good, everyone should read through, thank you for sharing.
 :)

this is good information with this newbie will not get a scam project when they invest in crypto world. if more and more positive news like this then nothing else will be deceived.

Good share

Dear admin, I know why you are famous. I think you have a big knowledge about business, your experiences will help many newbies. I will learn and try to do follow your rule, this is very informative information for me.  Many thanks

TRX is good cripto to buy? Good day :)

thankyou very useful

Thank you for this wonderful advice. We should not make a transaction to a person we don't know. Remember to be safe always. Earning is not important, but learning in this forum has a good benefits in all of us. Lets study and learn to improve of what we are doing here and contribute to the benifits of this forum.

Thank you for giving a good ideas and giving us more knowledge about scammer. :)

A very nice piece of information, just coming across it now and it's good our awareness especially newbies have been drawn to this because so many persons are fraudulent in nature no matter their level of membership in here. I will always work with this information at the back of my mind.

Thank you for the information

Thank you very much for this reminder! Suitable for both beginners and professionals! I have been working with cryptocurrencies for a long time and 0.3 btc was stolen from me a month ago. I did everything as usual and noticed one small thing that don't pay attention because I've already done it 100 times and then caught me.

Thank you.

Got your idea man, Thank you for this.

Information is really good, thank you for sharing! :D

Rules to live by on this forum

Escrow is a neutral 3rd party account to hold crypto during a transaction until both parties are satisfied.

Say you buy a doughnut from someone. You send the crypto to the escrow public key where it is held on the blockchain. Then you get the doughnut, and by some way notify the escrow service that you have a fresh delicious doughnut.

The service will then send the crypto to the sellers public key.

I think this useful information is not for the newbie only. but this is also useful for everyone in this forum. with more information like this then nothing else will be deceived

THe point to the fact is that there are lots of scams out there. Personally I would suggest u guys to follow these steps:
1. Read the whitepaper and evaluate the use cases
2. Find out everything about the project team
3. Watch their announcement on various forums
4. Follow that particular field’s experts related to ICO
5. Understand their coin distribution matrix and total supply

Some of these information are purely subjective or through personal experiences. Sometimes it is not the same in every situation but been exposed to  such information guides and directs some of us and helps us to know how to trade with individuals not only on this forum but almost everywhere.

hmmm........... well, thanks for the advice, so i as newbies should avoid doing business with newbies.

But I think not all newbies are scammers

Never trust provided TXIDs on new altcoins without block explorer. Better just wait to see the coins in your wallet and fully confirmed. Some people try to send manufactured TXIDs/screenshots to "proof" they made a payment.

0. Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER. There are plenty of veteran members to do business with and ALWAYS use escrow. If you're a newbie and you're doing business with another newbie, there's a 100% chance that you will get scammed (or you're a scammer yourself). I can not stress this enough.. just work with people who have been here at least a year.

Just be smart in dealing with people online, there are a lot of scanners these days.


Do not be fooled by the status of the person you're dealing with.

Always use a *TRUSTED* escrow.

Maybe you are pertaining to “scammers”. On the other hand, scammers are heading in our way to achieve the fruitful success in transactional terms due to a lot of having intentions to invest in Cryptocurrencies. Some of them are scammers and some of them are that and it is true that being fooled may lead your investments down.

I thought you're going to give something valuable and important as a tip and caution to everyone but you're only advertising.]

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Correct, make sure that you use someone trustworthy and has history of successful trades.

Before you're ready to ride the bitcoin rollercoaster, you'll need to establish an account with one of the major exchanges (like Coinbase or CEX), connect a bank account or credit card and transfer money over. That process, which we break down below, should take roughly 10 minutes or so. Unless, of course, an exchange is suffering some sort of outage.

There are many other points of entry into the bitcoin universe, however. You can play day trader and use a regulated exchange like GDAX (which is owned by Coinbase). On the opposite end of the spectrum, you can find someone local willing to trade cash for bitcoins, if you're into meeting up with strangers in parking lots. And if you operate a business, you can accept bitcoin as payment for goods or services.

a lot of thanks for share to us. Newbie now not yet for trading oh yesh newbie can buying any coin for trading not more just little. just read carefully and buy any coin of crypto currency and coin must be stay in crpto market. each coin depends on bitcoin.

Don't create that topic on here, but create it on Reputation thread.

If you are just a newbie in trading always chek read or make a research about the coin you want to buy.  Be careful always and don't trust anyone  because scammers are everywhere.

Thank you for your share. I think what you shared is very helpful and useful for me. I just a new member in cryptocurrency trading and there are many things I must study. I thought everything easy and simple before i read your share. Thank you so much again.

Thanks For This Valuable Information. You are right your all words are 100% true. Everyone must deal with safety because in online there are lots of scammer is active then genuine sellers.

I would say that this is the minimum that should be followed. Even if you are a first-class specialist in finding projects for investment, it will only reduce the risks. All thoroughly study projects, team. Review all team members and what projects they have done. If the projects were successful, it is a plus. If there is no or they did not exist, then this is a reason to think. Perhaps it is necessary to bypass this project and just watch it. In any case, communicate, study people's projects and the risks of your investment will be minimal.

I would say that this is the minimum that should be followed. Even if you are a first-class specialist in finding projects for investment, it will only reduce the risks. All thoroughly study projects, team. Review all team members and what projects they have done. If the projects were successful, it is a plus. If there is no or they did not exist, then this is a reason to think. Perhaps it is necessary to bypass this project and just watch it. In any case, communicate, study projects, people and will be in the black almost always.

I’m selling my Tbc coin please interested persons should please contact me immidkately escrow service will be used contact me@ cleon2442@gmail.com, instagram as cleon_enriching_lives, same on telegram

You can still trust escrow if you are about to trade with someone.

Good information. I will keep a look what you  share here when decide trade with another member.
My interest now is how to delete scam from our life. It is so difficult question. It's so hard to answer.
Thank you so much!

Thanks for the information. It is very terrible the way people rip of others of their money. The rate of scamming suddenly got on the increase but i am happy now because so many people are now more careful.
Talking about using escrow, it used to be very good but i found out that some groups escrow also indulge in this scam stuf, but with all i have read, i have learnt to be extreamly careful. Thanks again

Iam really new at here. thank to sharing a relevant information, well iam never trust anyone on the internet just be carefull.

Hi everyone,
As I replied in this topic, I have learnt so much knowledge from what owner of the topic and other members shared. I want to say thank to everyone here. Moreover, in my opinion, we should trade on the prestigious exchanges, never trade directly with anyone that you don't know. I think do like that we are safer.
Thank you.

        Thank you for the information. She will help me very much in the future. But I would like to hear from you more recommendations so as not to mess up all the bad things on the forum. What would have to do all sorts of things with the old-timers of the forum. Please give me a couple more recommendations.

I am a newcomer. And I thank you for sharing so much. Indeed, this is a large mine, but not for everyone. Be careful, otherwise your effort will be poured into someone else's bag. I also agree that we should trust the veteran. Consult with them about choosing investment projects, selecting programs to receive rewards. And if you're not sure, ask a more experienced person to help out.

Are you pertaining to those bounty campaigns? there are reviewers out there and scam busters that will help you out. But not all the time they will follow and do the job for you. They aren't paid for their generosity but they are dedicating time to help the community by giving tips and what are the projects that everyone must avoid. In everyone's part, don't also be deceived with those rewards that are quite high in your eyes. Start making your assessment as well.

Useful Article for those new in this game. thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Though it I think that the one about newbies, though might be true to some, certainly not all Newbies, perhaps you might wanna expantiate on your reasons for the view so as not to stereotype all Newbies, but overall a nice article in my view.

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Your advice and recommendations are very welcome. They are all true. If all the selected steps are strictly observed and are considered before trading with someone, hardly anyone can be deceived.

Escrow must be used ALWAYS, because veterans should also understand that their reputation depends on their responsibility.

It's all about due diligence and common sense. Sorry, common sense is not common. Regardless of a member been here for over a year does not certify them, go through every detail meticulously, and escrow is a very good idea. If you can avoid paying in crypto, please do as you will never get a refund. My motto is be suspicious and never take anything for granted.

Any advice how to start trading and what coin should I use?

I think ICOs bounty programs is a good begining... earns tokens after trading. This is a good first bounty for you: https://contest.t.exchange/ Tex exchange becomes a great exchange in the future. Good luck!

In the last year in programs bounty can be earn very little. You will see now that 90-95 % of bounty campaigns will bring you $ 0 profit. Don't despair, you will still gain the experience you will need in the future.

i think its important,   you can choose at least a jr.member or member. You have to choose trustful btt members by using trust datas in their profiles. maybe you can google the nick name for looking older topic about their nicknames. about any reputation or some topics about they.

1. Newbies, NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OTHER NEWBIES, EVER.

In any case, you need to be very careful. The Internet is almost complete anonymity and there are a lot of people who want to take possession of your funds. Of course trust trusted sources where you have already traded and in as small amounts as possible - decide how much.As you already know, even on Binance, there may be unpleasant circumstances.

Hi,

I am planning to trade a altcoin for bitcoin. Can someone explain me what escrow is and which escrow website i should use?

With sincere regards,
Danny

Thanks for sharing this useful information , there are lots of Scammers among  newbies rank. They do not care about their account getting deleted  in the event of their misconduct . It is idea to deal with Veteran Members because they value their reputation and its hard to find scammer among them. I almost fall victim of scammer among all these new ranked member during the process of exchanging altcoin for fiat . Going through escrow in making payment seems to be the best option to avoid scam.

The fact that is created  it allows each users who wanted to trade the alt coins first would make sure never used the scam website and be aware of any suspicious activity during trading & always used the quite offensive approach while trading to overcome setbacks.

My money were stolen from Bittrex


Hello everyone!

Maybe, someone can help me.

My funds were stolen from Bittrex. I had 42.000 USDT, and there was an API key (without access to withdrawal, and there were no key changes), also there was two factor authentication on my Bittrex account and on email (from which the there is a login confirmation for every new IP).

The API key is set only to read and trade access.

A person was added for managing the deposit. After about a day I logged in to see that from my 42.000 USDT balance only 70 USDT left, but there were no history of money withdrawal. However, when I checked the orders, I saw 32 pages of instant underpriced sales. As I understand, a bot was creating these transactions, and another account was buying out my money for close to zero value. As a result, all of my money ended up on another account, from which they were withdrawn.

Is it possible to do anything about this situation, and has anyone faced this kind of problem before?

At the time I wrote to the Bittrex support, bot only received the response, that the question was handed to the correspondent team.

I think you need to contact first their support team via email and tell what happened to your lost funds. You may also make your own thread for that problem so others will lend a help to solve your concern. I also used Bittrex a long time ago for selling some of my altcoins but I didn't encounter such thing like that. In your case, its really suspicious and could be true if you can provide the proofs like screenshots.

That's exactly the way it is.
I wish there was someone to guide me earlier so I wouldn't make this mistake.
Of course, I had the chance to experience it in a less risky way.
And I only got help from a beginner to know how to buy an Instagram account (https://socialtradia.com/how-it-works/).
And after a few days, I realized what a big mistake I was making.

Unfortunately, fraud is one of the biggest troubles of the crypto world. For beginners who have just decided to get acquainted with all this, it can sometimes be difficult to understand. And the tips do not help much. Only if you try and find out for yourself.

This thread really is a good one, my suggestion is that if it is possible btt should have an escrow, trusting any member with huge btc all in the name of being an escrow member is a no go area  for me, the risk involved is higher than the benefit.
Cheers

Has anyone tried the Particl Marketplace?

There double deposit escrow system makes buying online a much better option while still keeping your privacy. 

This is a must-read thread and I am going to promote it on my site and all my network pages...scamming is a major issue in the crypto scene and apart from following the suggestions and "rules' in this thread, really; for your first few transactions, and until you are more experienced never ever release funds unless using escrow, and always make sure the "wallet id" you are sending to is the correct one...double-check the address before releasing funds. (https://fuzzy.one)

So sad that many people are victims of these scammers. People need to educate themselves on these pitfalls as well.

Thanks for this.
I am a newbie and i think this post has enligthened me a little so i won't be scammed.
But please how do we know the legit veterans??

In addition to OP's concern, some of the newbie are buying cryptos using their cards, you know guys, I'm one of the victim by credit card scammer online, I don't know why they've gey the sensitive info of my cards, I only using it in some well known trading site, but they told me that they have no idea how my card debited without my knowledge.

If you are scrutinizing the things you need to know when trading and buying with your own money you will avoid being scammed and you can be sure that you are only dealing with legit veterans.

I will not be able to entrust my credit card credentials to any trading site except if it is legitimate and recognized. I will still use crypto payment methods.

There are other well-known trading sites but you can not say that they can really be trusted. So crypto should still be used to make transactions on a crypto trading site instead of fiat.

Recently I was thinking of doing some business and I was unsure how do I start and with whom. Your advice helped me and now I feel more confident. Thanks a lot.

I thank you for the extra reminder of safety and caution! A friend of mine had an incident related to the situation a few years ago. I think if he read such topics and articles more often, it would help him avoid trouble. We need more helpful forum content so the community doesn't repeat mistakes.  ;)

I think major of people have fell victim of this before. I had my own share of I too. The best thing is to be very careful else you are playing with your money. A few years back, I and two of my friends wanted to sell a coin and our third friend said he know someone who could buy it from us at a reasonable price. Only for the guy to receive the coin and block my guy from the group. It pained me to the bone because I needed that money seriously around that time. Don't ever make a transaction with a newbie like you of you don't want to develop BP.

True! thanks a lot for the great reminders. Just be careful in everything and never trust anyone that easy because scammers always there looking for a new victim.

Thank you so much for this post.

From what I came to understand and what I saw in this threat, I realized that the big brothers have posted some useful things for us and explained many beautiful things to the new ones. Many thanks to the big brothers for explaining well about our trading and cryptocurrency.
 I don't think you should trade with anyone without trust, so for the little ones, you should not invest and trade without someone you trust. Thank you.

ZEBPAY is a fake trading platform. They charge an immense amount of fees for trading. They hold on to your amount after the transaction so, to buy it at a low price and perform batch transactions and then they keep the difference. If you transfer EOS or XLM, that takes less than a min to transfer. ZEBPAY usually takes around 5- 6 hours or sometimes a day to transfer, when they have a chance to grab the transaction difference. They won't give you the tx Hash ID, their customer support won't reply if you are stuck at this issue. It is run by an Indian guy with only 20 people as staff, which is a huge red flag too. If you have this app installed, please uninstall this app ASAP. I never did a large transaction on this platform because of this trust issue, and I was right.

I don't think enough people will get warnings from here. If you were scammed, just write up a full scam report with evidence in the scam accusations board.

Judging from you story, it seems you have used them several times. Why do you continue using a service if it sucks?
We have lots of alternatives that you can try out.

Everyone should be careful. Arrangements should be made with familiar people. Otherwise, dealing with strangers can be a problem with transactions.

I had another Bitcointalk account, but as time passed, I stopped tracking crypto when I lost a big investment in 2013.
Now I come back here and see this topic.
I couldn't agree but I don't disagree, as I've seen other answers and the question is very broad.
There is an old saying that there are people, and people.
There are people who are manipulative and expect high status to take a big hit, whether with a project that never gets off the ground, or in a high-value transaction after making several low-value ones.
I don't say that this is today but lately with the great global crisis that affects millions, the number of frauds has increased significantly.
So whether new or old, rich or poor, after big losses I always take precautions.
To prevent yourself, it's not enough to look at user status or time, the ideal and a recognized and registered platform to do something with guarantee. Even if it generates expenses. Of course there are millionaires users here and who am I to discuss someone's integrity.
Most recommend to everyone a transaction in a regulated environment. for high value transactions.

I was impressed, I must admit. It's rare that I come across a blog that's both educational and funny, and let me tell you, you've made it. The problem is one that not enough people speak intelligently about. I'm so glad that I found this in my search for something about this.

I've never been scammed in this forum, but I hope I've never been scammed... for friends in this forum to be careful of scams, if there's someone we don't know, he suddenly PMs you then in Your conversation raises suspicions, so be careful... let's make all of this a lesson and don't let us here become the target of scammers.

HI IM A NOOB AND I HAVE ALT AND MEME ,I WANT TO TRADE AND SALE ,HOW DO I DO THIS SAFELY