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Title: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jimbo147 on June 29, 2017, 05:08:10 AM
For about a week is tor wallet offline.
Do not you know what happened?
Tor wallet = SCAM !!!


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: dannyjunior on June 29, 2017, 05:10:05 AM
did you check whois the owner?
more than 200 neg trust


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: bL4nkcode on June 29, 2017, 03:10:50 PM
Sorry man there are many users scammed by this wallet already, and there's many negative review about this site months or even year/s ago, did you use this wallet? Then how much. Those coins will be lost forever.

Me too scam for 0.15btc  >:( >:(
Sorry for your lost mate, but there's no way you can get your coins back.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: Monciarz on June 29, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
Me too scam for 0.15btc  >:( >:(


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: carlisle1 on June 29, 2017, 03:31:13 PM
we needed to aware those who still not informed about this concerned they needed to read everything and check if they have also the same issue
this wallet should be taking care of the dev but like the previous mate said the owner already got 200 negative trust just be more extra careful
to avoid big loses.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: frowsiter on June 29, 2017, 04:41:24 PM
Sorry man there are many users scammed by this wallet already, and there's many negative review about this site months or even year/s ago, did you use this wallet? Then how much. Those coins will be lost forever.

Thank God I came to this thread. I was going to be up for this wallet as I wanted to save up my coins somewhere which I will not use for long. The torr was on my list for this. This forum is such important for me now days. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about it and also creating this thread which caught my eyes very quickly. I would have lost so much money. I hope not to see this wallet again even if anyone tells me positive things about it.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: mobnepal on June 29, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
Tor wallet was already suspected to be scam and finally they ran away with all bitcoins users have in their wallets. We should never trust this types of online wallets, electrum like desktop/mobile clients are best to use daily or hardware wallet to store bitcoin safely.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: swogerino on June 29, 2017, 09:16:38 PM
Tor wallet was in the hidden internet where the majority of all things there are scam or illegal. Why you got there in the first place ? Maybe you thought to hide or to be safe from any third party tracking you ? There are desktop wallets like Electrum which you can manage directly from your OS and not be prone to scams like Tor wallet.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: john2231 on June 29, 2017, 10:11:28 PM
I just plan to use their free mixer before but i saw a lots of negative feedback about tor wallet so i think if you deposit your bitcoin in tor wallet expect that you will never get back your wallet..
You can't also trace them because they are in tor network.. Becareful next time if you want to save your bitcoin safety better to use a well known bitcoin wallet than choosing tor wallet..


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jhenfelipe on June 29, 2017, 11:47:19 PM
I'm glad that even I read about TOR wallet (being an Anonymous Bitcoin Wallet) here and there before in the forum, it doesn't caught my attention. There were scam reports posted last 2016 about it (on reddit, here and other sites), unfortunately it seems that you haven't read the news.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: SONG GEET on June 30, 2017, 01:48:26 AM
I have also heard about them before but avoided them because OP was involved with scams in past. We should always check about the owner of the service before trusting them with our bitcoins. I am using only electrum right now and not willing to use any other online wallets to store my bitcoins.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: pinkflower on June 30, 2017, 03:47:30 AM
Tor wallet was already suspected to be scam and finally they ran away with all bitcoins users have in their wallets. We should never trust this types of online wallets, electrum like desktop/mobile clients are best to use daily or hardware wallet to store bitcoin safely.

Yeah nothing beats a desktop wallet with all the private keys and seeds backed up and encrypted. But if you really need to be anonymous and want to use a web wallet, you can use TOR on the trustworthy services like Blockchain.info and Greenaddress. You can use their Tor address if you want. Easy.

https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/

https://s7a4rvc6425y72d2.onion


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jimbo147 on June 30, 2017, 07:29:01 AM
I learned the bad story of the wallet after I placed BTC .... I would definitely not put it there if I citalate negative reviews.
One can not know everything and quote everything.
Today, there is a lot of scams with everything that people do not know what a scam or something.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: Jamacn on June 30, 2017, 09:24:46 AM
For about a week is tor wallet offline.
Do not you know what happened?
Tor wallet = SCAM !!!

can you specify what did you experienced?


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jimbo147 on June 30, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
I sent my btc there and the day was wallet offline.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: gentlemand on June 30, 2017, 12:13:52 PM
Hmm.

Tor.

Custodial Bitcoin wallet.

Now, what might be the most likely end game for such a set up?

It's fairly easy to guess.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: Hazir on June 30, 2017, 02:45:19 PM
TOR Wallet has always had a bad reputation. As long as I remember users complained about it or openly suggested it is a scam waiting to go live.

Just look at these reviews from the past:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/review-torwallet-1340128815/ (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/review-torwallet-1340128815/)

Conclusion: TOR Wallet site is a scam, always remember - anonymously operated financial services are in almost all cases not to be trusted.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: Iranus on July 01, 2017, 08:19:59 AM
Hmm.

Tor.

Custodial Bitcoin wallet.

Now, what might be the most likely end game for such a set up?

It's fairly easy to guess.
It's like as soon as people hear about Bitcoin and start using it, they just give up any normal rules of where they put their money, which is strange as hell considering that they should do the exact opposite and be much more careful than they are with fiat.

It's like, "hey, people use Bitcoin on Tor, so look at this online wallet that's on Tor!  Let's put our coins into that!"

No due diligence, no checking if they're a regulated company, no checking for information about the owners, nothing...

Same thing happens with investments.  Normally none of these people would give their fiat to a company that promises to pay them back >3% daily, but apparently with Bitcoin they feel it's acceptable.  Maybe it's a side effect of all the stories of people getting rich with Bitcoin that cause people to lose all of their judgement.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: Jherek on July 01, 2017, 10:47:05 AM
Don't think anyone mentioned who created the site: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=67018

Surprise surprise Dr. Michael Moriarity ::)

Do your research before you entrust any sum of coin to anyone. In this case, the scammer was tagged long before Torwallet as an experienced conman. And he didn't even hide under any alts, he used his main account which everyone can check... Come on guys its not hard.

Hmm.

Tor.

Custodial Bitcoin wallet.

Now, what might be the most likely end game for such a set up?

It's fairly easy to guess.
It's like as soon as people hear about Bitcoin and start using it, they just give up any normal rules of where they put their money, which is strange as hell considering that they should do the exact opposite and be much more careful than they are with fiat.

It's like, "hey, people use Bitcoin on Tor, so look at this online wallet that's on Tor!  Let's put our coins into that!"

No due diligence, no checking if they're a regulated company, no checking for information about the owners, nothing...

Same thing happens with investments.  Normally none of these people would give their fiat to a company that promises to pay them back >3% daily, but apparently with Bitcoin they feel it's acceptable.  Maybe it's a side effect of all the stories of people getting rich with Bitcoin that cause people to lose all of their judgement.

Whole point of bitcoin is supposed to be trustless and decentralized, so exactly, why would you trust someone to hold your coins for you? Not only does it mean that your privacy on the TOR network is negatively affected you're also not holding your own priv keys anymore, which means that you don't hold the coins.



Moriartybitcoin aka Hotswap has also operated coinmixer, another scam. Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1713882.msg17169862#msg17169862

Investigation of his alts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159906

GL tracking him down, though it's extremely unlikely that you'll succeed. But in the end, karma will get him.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: gentlemand on July 01, 2017, 11:55:45 AM
It's like as soon as people hear about Bitcoin and start using it, they just give up any normal rules of where they put their money, which is strange as hell considering that they should do the exact opposite and be much more careful than they are with fiat.

It's like, "hey, people use Bitcoin on Tor, so look at this online wallet that's on Tor!  Let's put our coins into that!"

No due diligence, no checking if they're a regulated company, no checking for information about the owners, nothing...

Same thing happens with investments.  Normally none of these people would give their fiat to a company that promises to pay them back >3% daily, but apparently with Bitcoin they feel it's acceptable.  Maybe it's a side effect of all the stories of people getting rich with Bitcoin that cause people to lose all of their judgement.

Yes. I find this instant abandonment of common sense absolutely fascinating.

Why do they do it? Where do they go wrong? Why do they value Bitcoin LESS than their crappy dollars when it's almost guaranteed to be more valuable in the future?

The are PhDs to be written about this.

When I first got into BTC properly Gox was still the number one recommendation. I spent five minutes googling and could not believe that this wonky fuckhole that had mediocrity and doom written all over it was the blue chip of Bitcoin. I bought from real people instead.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jimbo147 on July 01, 2017, 03:25:28 PM
Moriartybitcoin ...... that nobody can stop it?
I have a lot of scams on my conscience.
And what about the police?
Do not know him?
Has anyone ever tried it???


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: DrZelenka on July 04, 2017, 05:56:48 AM
Irony of Ironies:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWHQ__wAcd-/

Sites' offline:

https://torwallet.com/


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jimbo147 on July 18, 2017, 07:17:21 AM
Can someone write me, but is there a chance that my btc will return?


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: robelneo on July 18, 2017, 01:39:59 PM
Can someone write me, but is there a chance that my btc will return?


I don't think so, I also lost $50 there and the dev keeps ignoring me until now, anyway the owner of that site Moriarty has the most number of negs the best that you can do is to write a blog about torwallet so people will get aware of this scan wallet


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jimbo147 on July 19, 2017, 04:26:18 AM

What about the police?
Has any one of these forums given a criminal charge?


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: jorneyflair on July 19, 2017, 05:21:28 AM
For about a week is tor wallet offline.
Do not you know what happened?
Tor wallet = SCAM !!!

Tor wallet always had a bad reputation and was probably one of the worst wallets out there and people expected that it was a scam from literally the day it was made. Why would you guys use the wallet where there are so many other good, safe and also free options out there. I would recommend you guys to totally swap to Electrum since it is super easy to use and also safe.

Can someone write me, but is there a chance that my btc will return?


Sorry, but unless the developer of Tor wallet has a change of heart, you most likely won't be getting your coins back.


Title: Re: Tor wallet SCAM !!!
Post by: Termin4tor on July 19, 2017, 05:29:43 AM
Tor wallet was in the hidden internet where the majority of all things there are scam or illegal. Why you got there in the first place ? Maybe you thought to hide or to be safe from any third party tracking you ? There are desktop wallets like Electrum which you can manage directly from your OS and not be prone to scams like Tor wallet.

I second this. I bet they were marketing their scam service with the name of tor for total anonymity. The sad thing is that, why on earth would anyone go to some shady website such torwallet when there are many well reputed wallets around which are available offline and online. Sigh. Seems like they scammed a hefty number of people already.