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Title: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Lucky7btc on June 29, 2017, 12:33:05 PM
Nice video of how they are rigging the game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU)


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: michkima on June 29, 2017, 02:22:10 PM
I never thought this could be rigged but seeing this, there might be a chance that every casino that has live dealers are rigged as well.

But we cannot conclude this yet until it all gets checked. I played this once, and never did I think it can be manipulated as this is seen live and the news is playing at the background.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Ryan Dugan on June 29, 2017, 02:43:13 PM
It's so bad. I saw a dealer cheating while he was smiling his head if. He popped a card up and skipped it from the pack. Very skilled but him smiling like a clown gave it away. Watch those hands.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Bitfort on June 29, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
So many times I have seen the ball behaved relly weird. Always thought they are using magnets or some sort of air jets but this is new to me.

Why the F they do this. Isn't the houseedge enough? Greedy bastards.



Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: YuginKadoya on June 29, 2017, 03:02:20 PM
That's a big Revelation! but yeah they can always do this with that little click they will make the ball take a different number and I really think that Live casino's does have a certain anomaly up their sleeves that is why there are a lot of gamblers that are now broke and sometimes became very addicted and have debts that may be the reason for a lot of suicidal attempts of some gamblers,

But I think online gambling still works randomly but a little tweak with the system can let a player lost it all well we can really never know if some are really doing this rig thing in their casino.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Mirror, Mirror, on the Wa on June 29, 2017, 03:05:43 PM
This is big news IMO and everyone was considering live casino's as the most trustworthy type of casino, I seen a part of the video but what website is the intermediate running this live casino for bitcoin?


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: RodeoX on June 29, 2017, 03:21:51 PM
A dishonest gambling operation! I for one am shocked.   :D


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: serjent05 on June 29, 2017, 03:53:52 PM
I am kinda surprised since I think that live casino is one of the trustworthy type but with the shown video, the doubt in my mind is triggered.  Anyway I wonder why this kind of stuff exist since  authority have random check on their equipment and other stuff to protect players from this kind of cheating.  Though I also have the same thought with one of the reply on that video.

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..besides they are regulated and they run spot checks randomly so there equipment premises are checked etc...even undercover checks are done thats why the staff are always alert...not saying these products arent used ever but license laws and regulations ensure things are done clean and casinos win anyway majority are addicts or problem gamblers they come back give there winnings back and stay for long periods...casinos thrive on these people.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: poplolnman on June 29, 2017, 04:02:07 PM
This is big news IMO and everyone was considering live casino's as the most trustworthy type of casino, I seen a part of the video but what website is the intermediate running this live casino for bitcoin?
it's been revealed several times in a lot of places since long time ago, you can't judge by only this single reference. better you go there and check by yourself , otherwise it could be a wild speculation . idk know if every single live casino provider doing the same like this , idk too about how if they didn't cheating could make them bankrupt or not. but based on math itself casino would have more profit in the long run rather than players.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Lucky7btc on June 29, 2017, 04:12:24 PM
This is big news IMO and everyone was considering live casino's as the most trustworthy type of casino, I seen a part of the video but what website is the intermediate running this live casino for bitcoin?
it's been revealed several times in a lot of places since long time ago, you can't judge by only this single reference. better you go there and check by yourself , otherwise it could be a wild speculation . idk know if every single live casino provider doing the same like this , idk too about how if they didn't cheating could make them bankrupt or not. but based on math itself casino would have more profit in the long run rather than players.

In theory yes math is on the side of the casino. But when it comes to money GREED kicks in. Its no difference then when you see increases on your bills. Increase in taxes, increase in prices, etc. Its all due to GREED! There are plenty of times when us gamblers thought it was just bad luck when it fact it was rigged. The camera is very tricky and behind the scenes they have ways of making what didn't appear, appear! Crypto casinos are the worst because they know the value will either rise or fall. Everything is controlled including when blocks are found and released.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: piloder on June 29, 2017, 05:18:28 PM
I never thought this could be rigged but seeing this, there might be a chance that every casino that has live dealers are rigged as well.
Yes live casino could be easily rigged compared to other provably fair games and casino can easily get away with it by claiming it was human/technical errors and few line of apology.  ;D


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Barcode_ on June 29, 2017, 05:39:57 PM
Wow, I am shocked to see how the person in the video is able to control the ball just by pressing the button on the remote device, after watching this video, I am starting to lose confidence in live casino site that employs live dealers to toss the ball in roulette game, it is actually shameful if online live casino are caught using this method to manipulate the game result since the house are already getting the advantage over the players with the house edge.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Lucky7btc on June 29, 2017, 05:43:46 PM
Wow, I am shocked to see how the person in the video is able to control the ball just by pressing the button on the remote device, after watching this video, I am starting to lose confidence in live casino site that employs live dealers to toss the ball in roulette game, it is actually shameful if online live casino are caught using this method to manipulate the game result since the house are already getting the advantage over the players with the house edge.

here is a video of an online casino being caught cheating in roulette (WOW!!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXOXNDdrGdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXOXNDdrGdM)


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: kslavik on June 29, 2017, 05:55:54 PM
These rigged live casino vidoes are all over youtube for some time now. Its so obvious and it happens almost at any gambling game like poker and blackjack. Dealers have different kind of tactics.

Ruelette is one of the oldest tricks. Its simply made by a magnet. They used to even have someone under the table in the old times to force the ball with magnet lol.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: michkima on June 29, 2017, 07:41:09 PM
These rigged live casino vidoes are all over youtube for some time now. Its so obvious and it happens almost at any gambling game like poker and blackjack. Dealers have different kind of tactics.

Ruelette is one of the oldest tricks. Its simply made by a magnet. They used to even have someone under the table in the old times to force the ball with magnet lol.

Though how do they do it for the online live blackjack? They have decks and they shuffle the hell out of them and make the girl deal them to the players and players were able to ask for another card and stuff like playing a real blackjack game. Can those be rigged too? I can't think of a way they can rig it unless they always know what cards will come out.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Lucky7btc on June 29, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
These rigged live casino vidoes are all over youtube for some time now. Its so obvious and it happens almost at any gambling game like poker and blackjack. Dealers have different kind of tactics.

Ruelette is one of the oldest tricks. Its simply made by a magnet. They used to even have someone under the table in the old times to force the ball with magnet lol.

Though how do they do it for the online live blackjack? They have decks and they shuffle the hell out of them and make the girl deal them to the players and players were able to ask for another card and stuff like playing a real blackjack game. Can those be rigged too? I can't think of a way they can rig it unless they always know what cards will come out.

Holograms and mirrors my friend. Its all smoke and mirrors.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Zicadis on June 29, 2017, 08:09:46 PM
These rigged games are really taking the fun out of gambling! The dealers or who ever is in control will always choose who should win or not and this is one of the many reasons why i believe sports betting is far much better than casino games.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: iluvbitcoins on June 29, 2017, 08:13:26 PM
These rigged live casino vidoes are all over youtube for some time now. Its so obvious and it happens almost at any gambling game like poker and blackjack. Dealers have different kind of tactics.

Ruelette is one of the oldest tricks. Its simply made by a magnet. They used to even have someone under the table in the old times to force the ball with magnet lol.

Though how do they do it for the online live blackjack? They have decks and they shuffle the hell out of them and make the girl deal them to the players and players were able to ask for another card and stuff like playing a real blackjack game. Can those be rigged too? I can't think of a way they can rig it unless they always know what cards will come out.

Holograms and mirrors my friend. Its all smoke and mirrors.

I think this very thread answers your question.

It's so bad. I saw a dealer cheating while he was smiling his head if. He popped a card up and skipped it from the pack. Very skilled but him smiling like a clown gave it away. Watch those hands.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Junko on June 29, 2017, 08:24:45 PM
I don't know how any serious gambler would want to play live roulette with the odds already being so horrible. This cheating with the balls just makes it even worse.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: iluvbitcoins on June 29, 2017, 08:28:14 PM
I don't know how any serious gambler would want to play live roulette with the odds already being so horrible. This cheating with the balls just makes it even worse.

At the current moment, I don't think I'll play anything that isn't dice ever again.

All the money I've lost gambling was roulette, online or offline, it doesn't matter.
I've had 13 red spots in a row, in a freaking row.
Imagine if I didn't cut losses and continued with my Martingale..


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: ralle14 on June 30, 2017, 07:35:43 AM
It's so bad. I saw a dealer cheating while he was smiling his head if. He popped a card up and skipped it from the pack. Very skilled but him smiling like a clown gave it away. Watch those hands.
That's the one from betonline right? Afaik they already took down the software provider for that game.

At the current moment, I don't think I'll play anything that isn't dice ever again.

All the money I've lost gambling was roulette, online or offline, it doesn't matter.
I've had 13 red spots in a row, in a freaking row.
Imagine if I didn't cut losses and continued with my Martingale..
If you continued with your 14th martingale bet assuming you started with $1 or 1mbtc with 13 bets in a row you already risked ~8k and the next bet is around 8192 there's a chance that you could still lose so it's a wise decision to stop.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Barbut on June 30, 2017, 08:26:30 AM
Rigged roulette is old scam, I didn't saw nothing new here, similar things you have in some gambling movies. I don't know what is the point here, we all know that every game can be rigged and every casino can turn into the scam. We are risking and hopping that our choice is good, i don't know what else we can do.
How to know that game is rigged? Maybe I bet on wrong numbers, maybe I didn't have luck, why every time when someone lose talks about scam? In gambling everything is possible right? So why 13 misses are scam right away? How many misses are not a scam for you?


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: moooonu on June 30, 2017, 08:45:09 AM
If i were you I would have already filed a case on the casino site. It's your money don't let it go like that. Make sure that those cheap trickers don't get away easily. Cheaters.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: crwth on June 30, 2017, 09:17:26 AM
Can you really know which casino is rigged or who is not? Because I think they can easily do that by just applying that to every game because for sure, there are different modifications with that at various games, it's just that roulette is really easy to get away with using that.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Gintama214 on June 30, 2017, 09:33:56 PM
Nice video of how they are rigging the game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU)


   Well I watch the video and it seems legit, I think that can be happen on a live casino when you play roulette because we actually don't know whats in their machine and we are just there to play, casinos are also business who want to earn money and that's what they do to earn more and more money and robbing us in that game. I think it could be a possibility especially now in our technology is so high tech that we don't know we are being cheated of winning. They are also greedy that's why they do this sht. Nothing in this world is free now and casinos who are like this giving you also the chances to not win ever in your life. The possibility of you winning is now "0%" rather than 0.001%. Also, the problem in this is that we don't know how to uncover this and we don't want to waste our money that we worked hard just to get cheated and lose all of you bets this is really unfair to us who gambles especially if your new, I would  suggest not to gamble instead use it in other things that can make you happy, rather than being depress and cry about losing all of your money.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Hyena on December 05, 2017, 09:47:46 AM
Sorry for a late reply but this thread fascinates me. I am curious whether my EMR detector would pick up any electromagnetic radiation when such a device is being used. Would make a nice way to bust those cheaters  ;)


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: eternalgloom on December 05, 2017, 01:03:21 PM
I never thought this could be rigged but seeing this, there might be a chance that every casino that has live dealers are rigged as well.

But we cannot conclude this yet until it all gets checked. I played this once, and never did I think it can be manipulated as this is seen live and the news is playing at the background.

I thought it was common knowledge that there were rigged roulette wheels, I think they've been around since roulette was invented.

It's certainly not the case in all casinos, they also get checked by the gambling commission. I doubt you'd see many in Las Vegas for example.
But I'm sure they still use them in certain shady casinos and online casinos.

Luckily we can play provably fair roulette in most crypto casino's, but they should really make a provably fair live roulette.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Hyena on December 05, 2017, 01:10:49 PM
I never thought this could be rigged but seeing this, there might be a chance that every casino that has live dealers are rigged as well.

But we cannot conclude this yet until it all gets checked. I played this once, and never did I think it can be manipulated as this is seen live and the news is playing at the background.

I thought it was common knowledge that there were rigged roulette wheels, I think they've been around since roulette was invented.

It's certainly not the case in all casinos, they also get checked by the gambling commission. I doubt you'd see many in Las Vegas for example.
But I'm sure they still use them in certain shady casinos and online casinos.

Luckily we can play provably fair roulette in most crypto casino's, but they should really make a provably fair live roulette.

Provably fair gambling is going to be the destroyer of physical casinos, heed my words


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: JanpriX on December 05, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
My friend is always saying to me that they are capable of doing this. Honestly speaking, this is the first time seeing a video feed of a live casino cheating against their customers. This is one of the reasons why we can't win against them. They have unlimited ways to cheat against us and we could not see it coming. Their imagination to come up with these kind of unfairly act is quite astonishing in their own rights. Hopefully, they just use their talent to do good and not the other way around.  ::)


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: CryptosapienZA on December 05, 2017, 06:44:26 PM
I can't speak for all live casino but this looks 100% rigged. What a shame. This dealer and casino should be ashamed of themselves. This is unfair, unethical and should be against the law.


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Dhaaaw on January 02, 2018, 11:30:56 PM
Thats' alot of speculation but for such a trick to work in a casion infront of gamblers in 2018 is not beliveable, sure casinons are not there to give people money but to take theirs. But not with such tactics...


Title: Re: LIVE CASINO RIGGED? VIDEO PROOF
Post by: Nerman on January 04, 2018, 04:08:59 AM
Nice video of how they are rigging the game...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU)

I do not know if its happening in all casinos but with this video I am glad that I do not bet on a  luck based games you really can not even think of a strategy to win, then you will see this type of videos where the game is fixed.

It is really better to play card based games like texas hold em poker.