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We all invest in projects hoping to make a profit somewhere down the track.

Have there been projects where the initial value of a coin ended up being higher than the value of the coin 18 months after its launch? OR can we expect 99.99% of projects to make some sort of profit, as little as it may be in the long run?

Sadly, no. :( Take LTC and DOGE for example. They started out good, but soon it quickly dropped, and they only increased recently. It would be the same with the altcoins now, some altcoins are scam, check out here: http://altcoins.com/scamcoins

Basically, the coins are pre-mined by the creators, so when people buy, they instantly sell what they have and abandon the coin while taking the profits. Only 10% of the altcoins are good project that have potential to increase in value (long term).

Don't treat ICOs/altcoins that are starting out as a good way to earn quickly. Sure, they can give you 500% profits, but your coins can also be gone in a day. It is better to do prior research and see the trustworthy of the dev before investing in any ICO. Take care! :D
 

Are you referring purely to ICOs?

If you are then they're inherently nobbled the moment they're born. They're crippled by inbuilt greed and ready made bagholders itching to get rid.

There are plenty of coins that did launch without that shite that rose significantly on their own merit.

I don't understand why anyone would bother with an ICO. Let it launch and then see if it has any actual merit beyond enriching the people who proposed it.

Here here! Why bother giving someone $50million because they have a good idea on paper? Show me it works. Then I'll invest some money I to it. Show me you'll be able to market it properly and make some money from it. Then I'll invest. A fool and his money are easily parted.

when you talk about "long run" you shouldn't only look at the start and end price. you should instead look at all the mess that is going on in the middle too.
an investment is profitable as a long term investment only if it gains value over time in all that 18 months.

but when you look at all these altcoins (majority of them) they have been falling, have a tiny pump then fall, and suddenly in past 2-4 months they started getting big pumps.
in short NO they are not profitable in long run but they are in short.

Nope. Not at all. Many projects today are complete bubbles and you cannot expect to even get even there.

An example are BetOpen with their ICO. They are offering 100 000 shares, prices 10$ each, for 10% of their profit. So they are self-valued their bookie at 10 MILLIONS! This is insane. Their real value is not even close to hundred thousands - a new bookie, scam accusations on weekly basis and so on.

Yes no one can ensure a project will be successful and profitable. A project usually only benefits a DEV, he pumps and then disappears.
I actually do not believe in a project, maybe only 3% of the project is really reliable.

Stuff fails but that doesn't mean it can't make a good profit for some over time, one need look only to securities like ASICMINER made a killing during the early days of mining, but then became defunct and lost all value.
The timing of a project and when a person enters into is can determine the value of something with so many altcoins not all will succeed, but depending on the entry point someone could still make a profit before it goes to 0.

The thing is that there is no end goal/date to use as a comparison.
You can look at a coin price at time of launch and then again 18 months down the line. It's possible that the coin value after 18 months is less than at launch. Having been said, if you wait another few months (no speicifc set value) it's extremely possible that the coin value would rise to a new ATH.
The point is that most coins are created to last. If that's the case then there's no real way in which they can fail (as per your OP) as the value has an infinite amount of time to rise/fall.

As stated there are quite little successful project. The system itself function as a centralized one and there are coins where fake pumps were created to get profit out of it. In the long run very few will be lasting to reach a good value. I believe the entire network growth is in the handa of the developers. Only with them it can grow in an sustained manner rather than facing big pumps in a short time.

In a long-term process any project can be profitable if the managing of this project is going on by a efficient team of members. First of all we say that what is the meaning of long term or short-term. Short-term means a small phenomenon and this period is one year or less than 1 year. But while we talk about a project and it's a business project we must take into consideration the term of Long-term. And this period should be 5 years or more even runs for 20 year. Because business projects are sometimes takes 3 years or 5 years only for setting up and incurred heavy loss. So, for reaping of the profit you should wait for another 5 or 10 years. And the profit will must come there after. But always needs to be watch out the managing body.