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We should finds way to introduce teenagers to bitcoin and the concept of earning bitcoins.

We knows that there are lot of unemployed teenagers who would like some extra cash.

Any ideas?

I thought of this the other day. Maybe high school cryptography or programming classes could be contacted or something. Kind of a "Look at this real world application of cryptography, oh by the way you might have noticed your national currency is going to collapse but this is secure" sort of thing. Where do smart teens hang out on the web?

We don't even have a cryptography topic in my AP computer science high school class.

Could you explain what you mean by the concept of earning bitcoins? Are you referring to BTC generation? I am an unemployed high-school student and will gladly accept any advice you can give for me to earn extra cash... ;D

Earning bitcoins by selling your services/goods.

Selling art and other materials on ubitio.us is easy assuming you find 3 downloader for each of your investment.

If you're a programmer, there's a few bounty laying around unclaimed. Otherwise, try fishing for people who want your programming service.

Smart teen hang out on hacker forums and tech blogs or they find there way here like me.
Stay away from skiddies as they will start scams then forget about bitcoin and lose that money forever.

Script kiddies...

But anyway, not all smart teens hang out on hacker forums like this one or tech blogs, either.

You can sell any product or service for Bitcoins.   Programming work, language translation,  tutor services, even lawn care or babysitting.  
You can turn your local customers on to bitcoin by showing them http://bitcoinme.com
You can even get local businesses to accept bitcoin, and then set up your own little business exchanging bitcoin for cash, and vice versa.
Smart teens hang out on Facebook - like all teens.
Some of them listen to http://live.twit.tv

16 year old here. I introduced the concept to many friends and a whole class. No dice.

Interesting. Do they have objections, or just a lack of interest?

You need a certain understanding of how the world works, before you understand why something like bitcoin has advantages.
To (most) 16 year olds money is simply a means to buy stuff :)

Generally it was a lack of interest or a simple "Oh, that's cool." Save for the one autistic script kiddy who decided it would be an excellent idea to get bitcoin running on every computer in a lab. As far as I know, he's banned from the computers for the rest of the year. He probably didn't fully understand the concept anyways.

Give them a virtual world to hook them up to. Then they discover that play money is real money.

Give them a gateway that allows subscribing to porn sites using bitcoins, then they discover the true value of bitcoins... it's more than money, it's a great way to keep prying eyes away from your business, or at the very least heavily increase the barrier.

I don't want puritanical parents breathing up our collective neck.

See, that's where I think the beauty of bitcoins lay... we don't have to play cop for anyone, it's the individual choice thing, I believe they call "freedom" or some other abstract meaningless word :)

disclaimer: I am a parent, I have an undisclosed number of teenage children, I understand your worries. I go around that by actually being there for my kids and talking openly to them... a crazy idea, I know!

Immanuel, YOU are here.    And that's what matters.   It's really cool that you are here.   How did YOU first hear about Bitcoin?

Maybe it would be more interesting to do a presentation to ADULTS...   They might be so impressed that this concept is being presented to them by a teen, that they might take an interest in trying it.

One selling point might be:   A new way to energize the local economy.    Local shops and merchants begin accepting Bitcoin, and keeping the money in the local community (mostly).

Even write up a News Story --- just as if YOU were a newspaper reporter, exactly as it would appear in a newspaper --- all about "Local Teenager Introducing Futuristic Money to Boost Local Economy".   Write the story.   Make it sound real newsy.   Then put the words, "PRESS RELEASE" on the top....  and "CONTACT DETAILS:" at the bottom along with your own email address and phone number.   Send it to every newspaper and local TV and radio station.   I'll bet money that one of them WILL run the story!

this is one of the reasons i got involved in bitcoin, hyperlocalism & sustainable community mentality is picking up some serious steam

Hyperlocalism is for tree hugging hippie.

If you want world peace, have global trade!

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4764748/The_Obama_Deception_by_Alex_Jones_Divx_697mb

Don't be so lazy that you force me to watch 45 minutes of video.

Lazy? What? do you want me to transcribe it for you?
https://www.mturk.com/mturk/welcome

All I am asking you is to put the argument into your own words.

Its not easily quantifiable. in my community hyperlocalism is a hot topic. if we can piggyback bitcoin on hot trends that provide "actual" products and services, i say why not?

can you quantify that hyperlocalism and sustainable communities are *only* for "tree hugging hippies"?

If you want prosperity, global trade is the way to go. Global trade encourage division of labor and specialization, which lead us to still more economic productivity.

And global trade forge interdependency. Interdependency mean that if you attack your trading partners, it will be harmful.

Indeed...

desertislandgame.com

That is not to say that global trade is always the way to go.  In a post peak oil world, the 1000 mile salad is unlikely to be able to continue to compete with the 20 mile alternative.  Yet, traders consider the costs of trading.

I heard that growing is the greatest use of oil resource, rather than the transportation part.

Global trade is GOOD. Global government is BAD.

Government should as be decentralized as possible and limited in scope; it certainly shouldn't be involved in ANY economic activity.

Localism is just another type of bigotry. Trade with whomever can do the most with the least and we'll all be wealthy. This will often be people near you because of lower transportation costs and in the past because of the cost of knowledge, but that is dropping to zero.

But really, insisting on only dividing labor with people who happen to be near you is very wasteful.

And teens don't care about terms like those back to the topic.

Some one needs to set up a weed4bitcoin and booze4bitcoin.

I insist a virtual world of some kind is the right idea to soak unemployed teenagers!

Couldn't they mine World of Warcraft gold or something and sell it for bitcoin?
I may be really off base here.  I don't play WoW or any other type of those games, but I did hear there was a market in WoW gold where first-worlders pay third-worlders to generate gold.

Ive actually thought about making a weed2bitcoin service

If you wish to succeed, delete the above post, and refrain from making such direct statements on openly accessable forums that otherwise archive your statements.

Really, someone needs to put up a simple machines forum as a hidden service in TOR, and then PM me the address.

i think that will be my next project

Good lucks and hope that you don't have the feds up on your ass. (I dislike these kind of projects as they are likely to drawn heats from authorities.)

He may live in Netherlands and be unaffected by certain drug laws.

I think what Tyler was trying to say was....


Wait.  That's what he actually DID say...

Point:  It doesn't matter if you're for or against "hyperlocalism"... it IS a hot topic.  It's very smart marketing to piggyback on that idea... for the purposes of marketing Bitcoin.  

I have friends who are Very hot on that concept.  It's a very popular notion in liberal urban New York City.  We get all our dairy raw from the cow, delivered, in Midtown Manhattan.  

Meanwhile, if you're talking to audiences that are all for Global free trade, Bitcoin works there too.

Either case can be used as a selling point for Bitcoin.  

Even (especially!) the "I hate banks, bankers, and PayPal!" crowd...

As for Pot4Bitcoin...  well, they deliver EVERYTHING to your door when you live in Manhattan.  But so far, they seem to prefer the green paper fiat currency of the common people.  :)

Since we can get cash for bitcoin so easily here, and pot for cash so easily, I'm not real sure of the need for a pot-for-bitcoin operation.   Definitely, the risks would outweigh whatever benefits there may be.  :)

It would be interesting to hear the pot dealer's reaction to the idea though.  

If only pot could be shipped electronically,  like a bitcoin.  :)

As for positive PR, sticking with selling goods and services that Are legal to sell, would probably be the smartest PR strategy.   :)  

Very well...I just have an allergic reaction to ideas that I considered fallacious notions, especially anything that threaten my material prosperity.(Long term, at least)

I actually intern at our local newspaper. I could attempt to get some Bitcoin advertising going.

There's also a Gold and Silver Bullion store down the road. Maybe I could ask them to display some Bitcoin brochures? Have them accept bitcoin for their gold and silver coins? Eh, that's going to take some convincing.

Anyways, thanks.

Tell them to look at http://BitcoinMe.com  They can get all the details about how to accept Bitcoin as payment for Gold and Silver there...

In fact, http://BitcoinMe.com IS the "Bitcoin brochure"...   :)

He might, but it's still best not to make verifiying that too easy for the feds.  I want them to spend as much time spinning their wheels as possible.

I went to the bullion store and gave them your address, Mr. Wagner. I asked them for a job while I was at it. :P

what did they say?

That's so awesome!   Ya think they'll hire you?   :)

They will need some part-time help in the near future. So, it's a little more than a maybe.

Cool! keep us posted

That's Awesome.   If you were near New York, I'd make sure we hired you on the spot. :)

You might be biased.