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Title: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: imboosted on July 04, 2017, 05:31:08 PM
I recently made the switch from ETH to ZCash to Monacoin to just mine whatever is most profitable at the moment with my GTX 1080 Ti.

I am having an issue with my reported hashrates and what ASIC pool and Suprnova both report.

I get about 68 MH/s on my card if over clocked, 65 MH/s at factory settings, and 57 MH/s if under-volted.

At the 57 MH/s setup ASIC shows about ~38 MH/s and Suprnova ~45 MH/s. I have tried different miners with the same results, all report ~57 MH/s and the servers still show the same values no matter what. Suprnova will sometimes increase to 55-62 (maybe for a few seconds), but 95% of the time its at 44-45 MH/s.

I did not have this issue with ETH or ZCash. Are these servers skimming?

Tried multiple miners with no change, but I'm currently using Tprovt's most recent CCminer release (May 14th v2.0).

I have contacted both sites with no response and I have not been able to find anything regarding dramatic differences like this. The only info that I got was a response from two others were having the same issue, one using ASIC and the other using Suprnova (both having lower hashrates shown than their computers report).

Anyone else experience anything like this or know whats going on?

Thanks


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: neo_rambo on October 13, 2017, 01:51:52 PM
Suprnova has always been inaccurate for me. They say it's delayed but It's always lower than regular rates.


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: Za1n on October 13, 2017, 02:29:14 PM
I have long suspected Suprnova of skimming a little off the top on all their algorithms. Needless to say I stopped mining there a long time ago. I am surprised as many people still mine with them as they do.

Anyway, regardless of the pool you use there will always be some disconnect between what your miner displays and what the pool shows. Your mining client is displaying the hashes per second it is performing, but there is also some amount of luck involved in finding a solution or share. Normally a given hashrate will find X amount of shares in a given time frame with a slight +/- variation.

The pool, on the other hand, is only concerned with the actual number of valid shares it receives. It uses this information and does a reverse calculation to display an assumed hashrate that would yield the number of shares per period of time it receives. Adding in a small number of stale shares due to latency your pool hashrate will almost always be slightly lower than what your mining software displays. This is perfectly normal and happens with all pools, but it is the amount of discrepancy that leave open the possibility of manipulation.

Also note that the pool is subject to some amount of "luck" as well as their average block finding rate may be higher or lower than the network average at any given time. This can also cause lower numbers to display depending on how they do their back-end calculations.

About the only thing you can do is try several pools and stick with the one that gives you the best results over a period of time. It would probably take a week of hashing at each pool to rule out any of the many variables though, so some patience will be required to find your ideal match.


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: mbdmbn on October 14, 2017, 07:07:53 AM
I pointed three 1060's and one 970 at suprnova yesterday at 5pm and I can tell you that after doing the maths, I'm mining at a loss even though on whattomine it's telling me I should be in profit, far more profit than if I mined ETH.

I agree with Za1n, suprnova are skimming and they've been doing so for a long time.

Here's my earnings for the past 15 hours

https://i.imgur.com/1BcLQuJ.png

And here's what I should be earning for just one card

https://i.imgur.com/jH61g9T.png

So it's shocking to say the least!




Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: Miner4ever on October 14, 2017, 07:48:32 AM
I never take for serious speeds on pool, more like a landmark.
If I have today time will also try that monacoin with few of my 1080ti rigs.


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: Vokas123 on October 14, 2017, 05:21:31 PM
Had the same problem yesterday, with a rig of 5x1080ti asicpool was reporting around 200MHs, and the miner around 340. Left it for a day, nothing has changed, asicinfo pool page never reported more than 280MHs.

Swithced the miner to LApool today, seems a lot better, but hashrate can vary greatly.

https://i.imgur.com/DCGf7ZA.png


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: ABRockies on October 14, 2017, 06:18:35 PM
Losing 30-40% hashrate on Asicpool.

So I set up 1GH of my rigs at Asicpool running CCminer 2.2 r2.  Dashboard shows 600-700MH


My script looks like this

setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

ccminer -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://stratum-us.asicpool.info:2104 -u Bit-Canuck.3x1070_7 -p xxxxxxx -i 20

5 of the units have identical hardware and are between 101MH-107MH each in the miner but dashboard can be anywhere from 58MH to 106MH

I tried to contact them but it just always says your message had an error..try again.





   


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: Sev18 on October 15, 2017, 01:28:19 PM
I heard that some version on ccminer has a bug with lyra2re2 algo that sends less shares than calculated by its hashrates.
It was fixed on recent versions. Check for it.


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: Oakey22 on October 18, 2017, 10:53:46 AM
There is a newer version of ccminer that sorted out the poor hashrate at the pools.


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: k3rt on December 06, 2017, 10:43:30 AM
Have the same problem. Using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, nVidia 384 dirver, CUDA toolkit, using ccminer, mining on ASICPool:

https://preview.ibb.co/hTQxEb/img.jpg (https://ibb.co/cC3TLG)

- ZCash on flypool, DSTM ZCash Miner - quite accurate
- Feathercoin on Give-me-coins, ccminer - weird hashrate
- Monacoin on ASICPool, ccminer - weird hashrate
- NewScrypt on NiceHash, ccminer - quite accurate


Title: Re: Monacoin Hashrate lower than reported - ASIC pool & Suprnova - servers Skimming?
Post by: QualityAlts on December 20, 2017, 05:14:26 AM
Something is screwed up still.

I'm using Suprnova and CCMiner x64 2.2.3 (ccMiner tpruvot fork v2.2.3 With Polytimos and KeccakC support) with 4 gtx 1070s.

CCMiner reports around 34-35 MH/s per card = 139-140 MH/s total.

Yet Suprnova reports areound 80 - 100 MH/s on the graph on the left, and in a box on the right it reports around 80 MH/s

Also, according to whattomine, I should be making 1.1 - 1.2 Monacoin per day.  Well, I've been mining for about 12 days and have 8.5 Monacoin to show for it.

This is BS and people claiming the issue has been fixed are obviously incorrect.

This must be fixed.

Does anyone know any other pools to mine Monacoin that don't screw you over???