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Title: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Dafar on July 05, 2017, 05:03:32 AM
Ok, as you can see I've been waiting for bitcoin to hit $10,000 for a long time:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424515.0


What sucks is that we are SO CLOSE to being at a position to hit $10K... the only thing keeping us from that level is OUR OWN COMMUNITY. Bitcoin WANTS to go up but the uncertainty is holding the price back. This fighting and clashing of egos is doing great harm to bitcoin... and allowing other crypto (ethereum, litecoin, dash, etc) take advantage of the situation. All bitcoin has to do is survive... and AVOID a CHAIN SPLIT AT ALL COSTS. $10K/btc is my retirement plan and if we can just not let our egos make a rash decision that causes a chain split... that would be great!


Japan is aggressively embracing bitcoin acceptance with over 400 new stores that will be accepting bitcoin payments starting next week, and 260K+ merchants by the end of the summer. That is a lot of stores!

GoldmanSacks of dick released a super bullish article on BTC, you know there will be sheep who will buy anything they recommend. To receive this kind of positive press and recognition 3 years ago would be unheard of!


Crypto in general is proven itself as something that is here to stay, that will NOT become a niece. When I discovered bitcoin we could only dream to be at the level we are at now!


Ransomware = bitcoin's killer app ;)


Possible China/Japan/Korea/India BTC ETF? Don't think it's a long shot at all, and I'm glad it's still a rumor.


US economy / stock market still hasn't hit a recession. What happens when we do, as bitcoin gains the reputation of an excellent hedge, akin to digital gold?


Things are looking good.  The tides have been turning in our favor for the last 2-3 years. The ecosystem is becoming big enough to take the price beyond $10K with the limited supply BTC has. We have the tech to meet any kind of demand and competition bitcoin faces, including the above. If there is a chain split there will be one chain that will be equipped to handle the kind of demand bitcoin is about to face and one chain that won't... and both chains would lose significant value, so what is the point? We don't need to turn 21M supply into 42M and confuse the world on which one is the "real" bitcoin. Believe me, a chain split that ends up creating 2 bitcoins will not end as well as it did for ETH. I get there are egos involved that's leading towards irrational decisions.. but at the end of the day are you telling me both sides of the camp, who should be greatly invested in bitcoin's success, are willing to sink the whole ship when we are SO CLOSE to reaching the kind of demand and reputation we could only dream of even 3 years ago?? This can't be real. I AM HODLING regardless.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: In the silence on July 05, 2017, 05:22:42 AM
I like what spirit you have, i am holding also, $10,000 is a reasonable value that bitcoin can attain, im happy what the developers are doing as long as its for the future of bitcoin. Hey i want to follow your dreams. Count me in.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Herbert2020 on July 05, 2017, 05:40:26 AM
What sucks is that we are SO CLOSE to being at a position to hit $10K... the only thing keeping us from that level is OUR OWN COMMUNITY. Bitcoin WANTS to go up but the uncertainty is holding the price back. This fighting and clashing of egos is doing great harm to bitcoin...

all these things hard bitcoin but the are not the reason for not being at $10K yet, they just slowed down the rise to that price, they never prevented it.
$10K price still needs a lot of adoption a mass adoption actually and that won't happen over night or in half a year. Japan started adopting bitcoin like this only this year, it needs time to build up towards that $10K.

i say even if all the debates and bullshit didn't happen, we would have been at $3500 tops and nowhere near $10K yet. because you can't really expect a 900% rise in one year for bitcoin any more.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: bitebits on July 05, 2017, 05:59:35 AM
[...] All bitcoin has to do is survive... and AVOID a CHAIN SPLIT AT ALL COSTS. $10K/btc is my retirement plan and if we can just not let our egos make a rash decision that causes a chain split... that would be great!

Surviving is all Bitcoin has been doing since 2009. It got very good at it, which only adds to its long term value opposed to the new interesting altcoin of the day. Declaring Bitcoin dead after a HF is just wishful thinking (by some). Bitcoin is not here for our retirement though, and all retirement requires is time and patience anyway (but I am sure we will get there one day).

Ransomware = bitcoin's killer app ;)

Don't agree since Bitcoin is far from fungible and likely will never be. This is a job for a coin that specializes in fungibility / financial privacy like Monero.

[...] you can't really expect a 900% rise in one year for bitcoin any more.

Disagree. It all depends on the circumstances Bitcoin operates in, don't look at the price of a bitcoin in isolation.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Kakmakr on July 05, 2017, 06:46:04 AM
Bitcoin is under attack from all sides and it is still standing like Rocky https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/Rocky_balboa.jpeg/200px-Rocky_balboa.jpeg We just need to stick it out to the last round and then we will be the global champion of all Crypto currencies. We have been in some small tournaments and we have been winning them, but we have not won the World Championship yet. Mainstream Global adoption is in our sights, we just need to fight the smaller battles to get there. ^smile^


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: jtipt on July 05, 2017, 06:59:35 AM
What sucks is that we are SO CLOSE to being at a position to hit $10K... the only thing keeping us from that level is OUR OWN COMMUNITY. Bitcoin WANTS to go up but the uncertainty is holding the price back. This fighting and clashing of egos is doing great harm to bitcoin...
i say even if all the debates and bullshit didn't happen, we would have been at $3500 tops and nowhere near $10K yet. because you can't really expect a 900% rise in one year for bitcoin any more.
Yeah that's a little more realistic view in my opinion. We just saw a 100% increase from $1000 to $2000 in beginning of the year, and BTC was going well and reached ATH of $3000 I think it could have stabilized around that for a while but rising to $10k is still too soon. 


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: 1Referee on July 05, 2017, 07:41:36 AM
There is no point into rushing things. I am actually quite happy with how things go here. Seriously, all the exchange hacks that we have gone through, China that was ruling this market with iron fist, scaling debates dividing the community, etc, it all offered people here some great trading opportunities. Eventually we'll surely touch the $10,000 level, but let us have some fun while this market still isn't mature enough. Trade right now, and enjoy much more wealth later. 8)


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: gentlemand on July 05, 2017, 09:54:22 AM
$10000 arriving within a couple of months would induce a horrendous hangover that could last for a long time. That type of movement doesn't come without an eventual reaction and it's usually an ugly one.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Kemarit on July 05, 2017, 11:50:30 AM
There is no point into rushing things. I am actually quite happy with how things go here. Seriously, all the exchange hacks that we have gone through, China that was ruling this market with iron fist, scaling debates dividing the community, etc, it all offered people here some great trading opportunities. Eventually we'll surely touch the $10,000 level, but let us have some fun while this market still isn't mature enough. Trade right now, and enjoy much more wealth later. 8)

Yes totally agree with you mate. No need to rush we will be there eventually. You can't blame the FUD around here though, they have their own agenda. I think if we are matured enough, we won't be listening to those uncertainties.

Let the big 3 do their thing (China, Japan and South Korea) and in the end we will see a good price. Let us hit $3000 first within the couple of months and we will see that $4000-$10000 will be hit next. Patience!!!


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: MBW_2 on July 05, 2017, 12:17:27 PM
Ok, as you can see I've been waiting for bitcoin to hit $10,000 for a long time:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424515.0


What sucks is that we are SO CLOSE to being at a position to hit $10K... the only thing keeping us from that level is OUR OWN COMMUNITY. Bitcoin WANTS to go up but the uncertainty is holding the price back. This fighting and clashing of egos is doing great harm to bitcoin... and allowing other crypto (ethereum, litecoin, dash, etc) take advantage of the situation. All bitcoin has to do is survive... and AVOID a CHAIN SPLIT AT ALL COSTS. $10K/btc is my retirement plan and if we can just not let our egos make a rash decision that causes a chain split... that would be great!


Japan is aggressively embracing bitcoin acceptance with over 400 new stores that will be accepting bitcoin payments starting next week, and 260K+ merchants by the end of the summer. That is a lot of stores!

GoldmanSacks of dick released a super bullish article on BTC, you know there will be sheep who will buy anything they recommend. To receive this kind of positive press and recognition 3 years ago would be unheard of!


Crypto in general is proven itself as something that is here to stay, that will NOT become a niece. When I discovered bitcoin we could only dream to be at the level we are at now!


Ransomware = bitcoin's killer app ;)


Possible China/Japan/Korea/India BTC ETF? Don't think it's a long shot at all, and I'm glad it's still a rumor.


US economy / stock market still hasn't hit a recession. What happens when we do, as bitcoin gains the reputation of an excellent hedge, akin to digital gold?


Things are looking good.  The tides have been turning in our favor for the last 2-3 years. The ecosystem is becoming big enough to take the price beyond $10K with the limited supply BTC has. We have the tech to meet any kind of demand and competition bitcoin faces, including the above. If there is a chain split there will be one chain that will be equipped to handle the kind of demand bitcoin is about to face and one chain that won't... and both chains would lose significant value, so what is the point? We don't need to turn 21M supply into 42M and confuse the world on which one is the "real" bitcoin. Believe me, a chain split that ends up creating 2 bitcoins will not end as well as it did for ETH. I get there are egos involved that's leading towards irrational decisions.. but at the end of the day are you telling me both sides of the camp, who should be greatly invested in bitcoin's success, are willing to sink the whole ship when we are SO CLOSE to reaching the kind of demand and reputation we could only dream of even 3 years ago?? This can't be real. I AM HODLING regardless.

So,another 'who is right' scenario? Dont worry, sooner or later we will see the bitcoin price will  hit $100,000  ;)


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on July 05, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
$10,000 feels a long way off at the moment, we can't even breach $3000. I want to think that $10,000 per bitcoin is close but the scaling bull shit needs sorting out. Will it be sorted 1st August?


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Torque on July 05, 2017, 02:12:49 PM
$10K/btc is my retirement plan and if we can just not let our egos make a rash decision that causes a chain split... that would be great!

Lol... I like you Dafar. However, your post tries to come off as altruistic about Bitcoin's future, but one line gives away the extent of your true selfish feelings.  :D

https://i.imgflip.com/1s0ibs.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1s0ibs)



Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: ActiveP on July 05, 2017, 03:17:54 PM
Why so angry OP? The price has more than doubled it's value this here, regardless of all the issues we are facing with fees and what not. I really don't get the rush. slowly slowly catchy monkey.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: michellee on July 05, 2017, 03:22:07 PM
$10,000 is a dream for every one but its not in this year, we need to break $3,000 first then we can go next level. without breaking $3,000, its need more times. but my feeling after august 1, the price will be increase and i hope it reach $3,000 and even more. i think this year is the best year for bitcoin because the price is up in january until now although we can see the price is volatile.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on July 05, 2017, 05:05:58 PM
Many people are waiting for that price of bitcoin but its not possible this year to be happen but i think it can be still happen maybe in the future..
Like you said there are many competitors like ethereum, litecoin  or dash that actually getting popularity to and increase its value..
It could be also my retirement plan if i hold almost 5 btc in my pocket. I would be satisfied with the profit if i sell them with the prce of $10k..
Well i'm not sure if it can be touch at $10k but i will be still bet and join in your list i feel it can be happen so add me in your treat list :D


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: lite on July 05, 2017, 07:18:45 PM
$10,000 feels a long way off at the moment, we can't even breach $3000. I want to think that $10,000 per bitcoin is close but the scaling bull shit needs sorting out. Will it be sorted 1st August?
Yep, that's the day. if chain split happens, then $10000 would probably take very long time to happen. i hope everything goes smoothly on august 1.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: richardsNY on July 05, 2017, 09:33:54 PM
I thought that it was another thread from a newbie that is trying to hit bank in a quick fashion, but it's way worse, this comes from a legendary member! :D In all seriousness, I don't think anyone can ask for such an insane price level, while we are still not able to properly grow further without larger blocks and other enhancements that come with SegWit. Wait for SegWit to activate, and adjust your targets accordingly....


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: MBW_2 on July 05, 2017, 10:12:00 PM
$10,000 is a dream for every one but its not in this year, we need to break $3,000 first then we can go next level. without breaking $3,000, its need more times. but my feeling after august 1, the price will be increase and i hope it reach $3,000 and even more. i think this year is the best year for bitcoin because the price is up in january until now although we can see the price is volatile.

3000$ btc/usd rate is far from reality for august. We will see deep correction before next wave of uptrend.. Traders should play this up-down game before 2018 ;)


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: marcuslong on July 05, 2017, 10:26:05 PM
I like what spirit you have, i am holding also, $10,000 is a reasonable value that bitcoin can attain, im happy what the developers are doing as long as its for the future of bitcoin. Hey i want to follow your dreams. Count me in.
you two are not losing any hope for bitcoin well thats great foghting spirit i think you two idolize the man who is actually 12 years old and think about to invest his money to bitcoin that year and hold his bitcoin for that long until he reach hos total goal in the price of each coin anyway  i beleive that bitcoin can be that soon as in demand well just wait for it.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: tigershark on July 05, 2017, 10:46:58 PM
Ok, as you can see I've been waiting for bitcoin to hit $10,000 for a long time:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424515.0


What sucks is that we are SO CLOSE to being at a position to hit $10K... the only thing keeping us from that level is OUR OWN COMMUNITY. Bitcoin WANTS to go up but the uncertainty is holding the price back. This fighting and clashing of egos is doing great harm to bitcoin... and allowing other crypto (ethereum, litecoin, dash, etc) take advantage of the situation. All bitcoin has to do is survive... and AVOID a CHAIN SPLIT AT ALL COSTS. $10K/btc is my retirement plan and if we can just not let our egos make a rash decision that causes a chain split... that would be great!


Japan is aggressively embracing bitcoin acceptance with over 400 new stores that will be accepting bitcoin payments starting next week, and 260K+ merchants by the end of the summer. That is a lot of stores!

GoldmanSacks of dick released a super bullish article on BTC, you know there will be sheep who will buy anything they recommend. To receive this kind of positive press and recognition 3 years ago would be unheard of!


Crypto in general is proven itself as something that is here to stay, that will NOT become a niece. When I discovered bitcoin we could only dream to be at the level we are at now!


Ransomware = bitcoin's killer app ;)


Possible China/Japan/Korea/India BTC ETF? Don't think it's a long shot at all, and I'm glad it's still a rumor.


US economy / stock market still hasn't hit a recession. What happens when we do, as bitcoin gains the reputation of an excellent hedge, akin to digital gold?


Things are looking good.  The tides have been turning in our favor for the last 2-3 years. The ecosystem is becoming big enough to take the price beyond $10K with the limited supply BTC has. We have the tech to meet any kind of demand and competition bitcoin faces, including the above. If there is a chain split there will be one chain that will be equipped to handle the kind of demand bitcoin is about to face and one chain that won't... and both chains would lose significant value, so what is the point? We don't need to turn 21M supply into 42M and confuse the world on which one is the "real" bitcoin. Believe me, a chain split that ends up creating 2 bitcoins will not end as well as it did for ETH. I get there are egos involved that's leading towards irrational decisions.. but at the end of the day are you telling me both sides of the camp, who should be greatly invested in bitcoin's success, are willing to sink the whole ship when we are SO CLOSE to reaching the kind of demand and reputation we could only dream of even 3 years ago?? This can't be real. I AM HODLING regardless.

$10,000 seem very possible after the huge gains this year. We've gotten to almost 30% of that goal. In a couple of years I think we see $10,000 and maybe sooner.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Bitcoinaire on July 06, 2017, 04:44:36 AM
We all want it to happen right now but it's a process. By the 2020 halving, we'll be well north of that number.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: South Park on July 06, 2017, 09:28:51 PM
I understand your point, but to be honest there is nothing to do, we as the users of bitcoin do not have much say when it comes to suggest ideas that may work for bitcoin, but we  have a lot of power when it comes to make bitcoin successful by using it, trading it or investing in it, at this point it seems the ones that will have the final say whether there is a split or not are the miners.


Title: Re: $10,000 per bitcoin.... ENOUGH of this bullshit!!
Post by: Febo on July 07, 2017, 04:09:38 PM
Ok, as you can see I've been waiting for bitcoin to hit $10,000 for a long time:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424515.0


What sucks is that we are SO CLOSE to being at a position to hit $10K... the only thing keeping us from that level is OUR OWN COMMUNITY. Bitcoin WANTS to go up but the uncertainty is holding the price back. This fighting and clashing of egos is doing great harm to bitcoin... and allowing other crypto (ethereum, litecoin, dash, etc) take advantage of the situation. All bitcoin has to do is survive... and AVOID a CHAIN SPLIT AT ALL COSTS. $10K/btc is my retirement plan and if we can just not let our egos make a rash decision that causes a chain split... that would be great!


Japan is aggressively embracing bitcoin acceptance with over 400 new stores that will be accepting bitcoin payments starting next week, and 260K+ merchants by the end of the summer. That is a lot of stores!

GoldmanSacks of dick released a super bullish article on BTC, you know there will be sheep who will buy anything they recommend. To receive this kind of positive press and recognition 3 years ago would be unheard of!


Crypto in general is proven itself as something that is here to stay, that will NOT become a niece. When I discovered bitcoin we could only dream to be at the level we are at now!


Ransomware = bitcoin's killer app ;)


Possible China/Japan/Korea/India BTC ETF? Don't think it's a long shot at all, and I'm glad it's still a rumor.


US economy / stock market still hasn't hit a recession. What happens when we do, as bitcoin gains the reputation of an excellent hedge, akin to digital gold?


Things are looking good.  The tides have been turning in our favor for the last 2-3 years. The ecosystem is becoming big enough to take the price beyond $10K with the limited supply BTC has. We have the tech to meet any kind of demand and competition bitcoin faces, including the above. If there is a chain split there will be one chain that will be equipped to handle the kind of demand bitcoin is about to face and one chain that won't... and both chains would lose significant value, so what is the point? We don't need to turn 21M supply into 42M and confuse the world on which one is the "real" bitcoin. Believe me, a chain split that ends up creating 2 bitcoins will not end as well as it did for ETH. I get there are egos involved that's leading towards irrational decisions.. but at the end of the day are you telling me both sides of the camp, who should be greatly invested in bitcoin's success, are willing to sink the whole ship when we are SO CLOSE to reaching the kind of demand and reputation we could only dream of even 3 years ago?? This can't be real. I AM HODLING regardless.

Exactly everyone writes so nice about Bitcoin. Goverments organize conferences. But Bitcoin holders are pussy asses and selling their Bitcoin stash. If they would not sell we would see BTC at $100k.   But I guess they bought it to sell at some point. So that makes some sense.