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Title: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: metalbean on July 09, 2017, 04:27:28 AM
Why did Vitalik use a self-customized hash algorithm when ethereum could have picked battle tested algo eg SHA-2, Keccak etc.


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: benthach on July 09, 2017, 04:35:02 AM
because it would give scam eth more hype and sound original, even if it edit other algo and give it own name.

This is how butterin vetnlick come about with ethoreium, took nick szabo smart contracts idea then hire gav wood to code it. Why I always said this ugly crook is the toxic of this crypto, copy people ideas then claimed his own and make billions even if this scam is broken or he have no clue about it


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: metalbean on July 09, 2017, 05:08:45 AM
because it would give scam eth more hype and sound original, even if it edit other algo and give it own name.

This is how butterin vetnlick come about with ethoreium, took nick szabo smart contracts idea then hire gav wood to code it. Why I always said this ugly crook is the toxic of this crypto, copy people ideas then claimed his own and make billions even if this scam is broken or he have no clue about it

out of curiosity, which algo did he modify from?


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: Herbert2020 on July 09, 2017, 05:56:25 AM
you will never get any technical answers regarding ethereum around here (unless i come around ;D) everyone here is either hating ethereum (including me) or are shills who are only advertising ethereum regarding its price to make more money from it or possibly even get paid for shilling.

and here is the answer to your question:
https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Ethash-Design-Rationale


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: benthach on July 09, 2017, 06:33:12 AM
because it would give scam eth more hype and sound original, even if it edit other algo and give it own name.

This is how butterin vetnlick come about with ethoreium, took nick szabo smart contracts idea then hire gav wood to code it. Why I always said this ugly crook is the toxic of this crypto, copy people ideas then claimed his own and make billions even if this scam is broken or he have no clue about it

out of curiosity, which algo did he modify from?

it a modified of SHA3 with the touch of Keccak, we can say it a product of SHA3 and Keccak
Nothing with eth is original, Butterin able to manipulated and make everything sound larger than life


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: Herbert2020 on July 09, 2017, 06:43:06 AM
because it would give scam eth more hype and sound original, even if it edit other algo and give it own name.

This is how butterin vetnlick come about with ethoreium, took nick szabo smart contracts idea then hire gav wood to code it. Why I always said this ugly crook is the toxic of this crypto, copy people ideas then claimed his own and make billions even if this scam is broken or he have no clue about it

out of curiosity, which algo did he modify from?

it a modified of SHA3 with the touch of Keccak, we can say it a product of SHA3 and Keccak
Nothing with eth is original, Butterin able to manipulated and make everything sound larger than life

Ethash is the proof of work algorithm and should not be confused with Keccak-256 which is a derivation of SHA3 (because it uses a different padding) and is a hash function which is used internally in places like when making hashes for block headers, when making hashes of things in Solidity contract


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: mining1 on July 09, 2017, 09:08:59 AM
@metalbean Look what sha-256 is doing to bitcoin. Centralised in china. If xi jinping says he doesn't like bitcoin, then bitcoin drops like a rock. Because he can pull the plug.


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: metalbean on July 09, 2017, 02:12:57 PM
because it would give scam eth more hype and sound original, even if it edit other algo and give it own name.

This is how butterin vetnlick come about with ethoreium, took nick szabo smart contracts idea then hire gav wood to code it. Why I always said this ugly crook is the toxic of this crypto, copy people ideas then claimed his own and make billions even if this scam is broken or he have no clue about it

out of curiosity, which algo did he modify from?

it a modified of SHA3 with the touch of Keccak, we can say it a product of SHA3 and Keccak
Nothing with eth is original, Butterin able to manipulated and make everything sound larger than life

Ethash is the proof of work algorithm and should not be confused with Keccak-256 which is a derivation of SHA3 (because it uses a different padding) and is a hash function which is used internally in places like when making hashes for block headers, when making hashes of things in Solidity contract

Thanks for the explanation.

Ethash is used to the PoW (just like SHA256 is used for Bitcoin), why didn't ethereum picked something familiar for the PoW algorithm instead.


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: systemv on July 09, 2017, 07:28:29 PM
Notably this is one of the few algos that being implemented on Cuda produce least heat. But that I guess is just pleasant accidental byproduct :)


Title: Re: Why did Vitalik use ethash algo?
Post by: bustedsynx on July 09, 2017, 07:32:11 PM
@metalbean Look what sha-256 is doing to bitcoin. Centralised in china. If xi jinping says he doesn't like bitcoin, then bitcoin drops like a rock. Because he can pull the plug.

Kinda similar to the situation today: Miners vs users.