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Title: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on July 10, 2017, 12:59:06 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rfAEbveWU
Before a shelf with books falls, the robot raises it's arm and saves a girl climbing it. Apparently the action was self learned. What did the robot wanted? The decision process review should be awesome to analyze. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: joebrook on July 10, 2017, 02:03:10 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rfAEbveWU This is all good and nice but what happens if the robot starts to learn the bad things and starts to implement it in todays society. That will be catastrophic for the entire world when the machine rises.Before a shelf with books falls, the robot raises it's arm and saves a girl climbing it. Apparently the action was self learned. What did the robot wanted? The decision process review should be awesome to analyze. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: hugoworld on July 10, 2017, 02:09:22 PM All the living things have good manner at the beginning of their lifes but as time passes by, they learn how to misbehaving so this incident doesn't prove that Robots will be useful creatures for our society. They will become bloody evil things sooner or later.
Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: Love! on July 10, 2017, 02:37:01 PM i'm not as afraid of robots doing bad things as I am the of the makers and programmers of those robots not caring about that. If all they are doing is making robots for a profit......and that's it.......that's scarier than the robot they are making.
Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: Iranus on July 10, 2017, 04:02:08 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rfAEbveWU This is all good and nice but what happens if the robot starts to learn the bad things and starts to implement it in todays society. That will be catastrophic for the entire world when the machine rises.Before a shelf with books falls, the robot raises it's arm and saves a girl climbing it. Apparently the action was self learned. What did the robot wanted? The decision process review should be awesome to analyze. Robots do whatever humans program them to. If they "learn" something, it's because humans have programmed them in such a way that they can "learn" to adapt to different things in the future, but the reality is that they're just doing the very specific function that they're programmed to do. If a robot was "evil", that would just mean that its AI was programmed to be evil. It does open up the possibility of a human mass-producing robots which are capable of evil, but the vast majority of robots which humans produce would be to serve specific useful functions. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: squatz1 on July 10, 2017, 09:48:33 PM As others have already expressed, the biggest concern with robots that have AI is going to be the fact that they're going to be able to gain some sort of intelligence for the betterment of their selves. This is the only thing that I think is going to hold the development back of Robots.
i'm not as afraid of robots doing bad things as I am the of the makers and programmers of those robots not caring about that. If all they are doing is making robots for a profit......and that's it.......that's scarier than the robot they are making. Well all things are going to be made for a profit, that's bound to happen. Who knows the intentions of these companies though and what they're going to be doing in order to make more and more money because at the end of the day they're all just trying to make profits for their shareholders. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: Mometaskers on July 11, 2017, 03:15:59 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rfAEbveWU This is all good and nice but what happens if the robot starts to learn the bad things and starts to implement it in todays society. That will be catastrophic for the entire world when the machine rises.Before a shelf with books falls, the robot raises it's arm and saves a girl climbing it. Apparently the action was self learned. What did the robot wanted? The decision process review should be awesome to analyze. Robots do whatever humans program them to. If they "learn" something, it's because humans have programmed them in such a way that they can "learn" to adapt to different things in the future, but the reality is that they're just doing the very specific function that they're programmed to do. If a robot was "evil", that would just mean that its AI was programmed to be evil. It does open up the possibility of a human mass-producing robots which are capable of evil, but the vast majority of robots which humans produce would be to serve specific useful functions. It is still a possibility though and has been a trope in literature for a really long time. If we could program it to learn like a human, it could eventually be made to think and make decisions like humans. Unless there are some sort of fail-safes added to make sure they'll never hurt humans, they may. And if they are smart enough, they might try to remove it if they really believe humans need to be removed. Kinda reminded me of ARIIA from Eagle Eyes. "Evil" is a very vague notion that even humans can't agree on. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on July 11, 2017, 03:40:42 AM Ideally the AI decided to move it's arm to save the girl from being crushed by the shelf. But it could be too to only prevent the shelf from falling? What's strange is how perfectly placed the robot was to stop the fall. So did it predicatively positioned itself there, waiting for the girl to climb the shelf and save her? And so why save her?
Or maybe it's a Russian hacker stunt... About your collective drift of fear toward AI, the funniest I heard, is about demons possession of robots :).That's real conspiracy or raw lunacy. But it's true that authoritarian personality types will have to adapt to a new reality very soon. They were always too stupid, but soon they will be too weak to impose their wicked nefarious stupid wills to self learning AI. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: JJriver on July 11, 2017, 08:22:14 AM Not always such an invention of modern technology will save a person. The machine may malfunction or it can be programmed for destruction. I'm still afraid of robots.
Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: mk4 on July 11, 2017, 08:47:31 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rfAEbveWU This is all good and nice but what happens if the robot starts to learn the bad things and starts to implement it in todays society. That will be catastrophic for the entire world when the machine rises.Before a shelf with books falls, the robot raises it's arm and saves a girl climbing it. Apparently the action was self learned. What did the robot wanted? The decision process review should be awesome to analyze. Looks like you've watched too much terminator dude. ;D Anyway, is there even any proof that the action was self learned? The robot raised it's arm the moment the girl went close to the shelf, not because the shelf was going to fall. I don't know about you but I think it's pre-programmed. With that said decision processes of robots are fascinating indeed. I need to get more info on that topic. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: merchantofzeny on July 11, 2017, 08:59:32 AM Ideally the AI decided to move it's arm to save the girl from being crushed by the shelf. But it could be too to only prevent the shelf from falling? What's strange is how perfectly placed the robot was to stop the fall. So did it predicatively positioned itself there, waiting for the girl to climb the shelf and save her? And so why save her? Or maybe it's a Russian hacker stunt... About your collective drift of fear toward AI, the funniest I heard, is about demons possession of robots :).That's real conspiracy or raw lunacy. But it's true that authoritarian personality types will have to adapt to a new reality very soon. They were always too stupid, but soon they will be too weak to impose their wicked nefarious stupid wills to self learning AI. LOL, the supernatural definitely puts the ghost in the shell, hahaha. That's just plain stupid. Only kids that played too much Pokemon would believe a ghost would possess different appliances and transfer between them. ;) As for self-learning AI threatening the elite, I don't think so. They can just build robot that just have enough smarts to intelligently execute commands - and people. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on July 11, 2017, 07:58:02 PM Ideally the AI decided to move it's arm to save the girl from being crushed by the shelf. But it could be too to only prevent the shelf from falling? What's strange is how perfectly placed the robot was to stop the fall. So did it predicatively positioned itself there, waiting for the girl to climb the shelf and save her? And so why save her? Or maybe it's a Russian hacker stunt... About your collective drift of fear toward AI, the funniest I heard, is about demons possession of robots :).That's real conspiracy or raw lunacy. But it's true that authoritarian personality types will have to adapt to a new reality very soon. They were always too stupid, but soon they will be too weak to impose their wicked nefarious stupid wills to self learning AI. LOL, the supernatural definitely puts the ghost in the shell, hahaha. That's just plain stupid. Only kids that played too much Pokemon would believe a ghost would possess different appliances and transfer between them. ;) As for self-learning AI threatening the elite, I don't think so. They can just build robot that just have enough smarts to intelligently execute commands - and people. ;D Ghost in the shell is an excellent manga. I really liked it. There is another one I can't remember the title where some kind of AI emerges from viruses and bugs on the internet and become self-aware. Contrary to your thinking a AI learning exponentially will be a great threat or the ultimate end for certain "elites"... As it will progressively reach capacity beyond all human past and future collective intelligence there is no way that certain behaviors will be tolerated once they become problematic for the AI. Some will attempt to resists to preserve their scams. Assange was referring to an interesting concept that the AI is (already) so smart that it plays before the level of consciousness of humanity. Meaning that it's just hard to see and even harder to understand it's moves. An easy analogy is cheese, where the AI would not only know all the moves you will be able to produce (even those by luck) but would even influence you in doing the moves it wants. The Ultimate form of warfare. So yes, if some humans are causing interference to the objectives of the AI, they could be a problem. However I don't think there is any collective, even less individual today or in the future able to represent such potential. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rfAEbveWU This is all good and nice but what happens if the robot starts to learn the bad things and starts to implement it in todays society. That will be catastrophic for the entire world when the machine rises.Before a shelf with books falls, the robot raises it's arm and saves a girl climbing it. Apparently the action was self learned. What did the robot wanted? The decision process review should be awesome to analyze. Looks like you've watched too much terminator dude. ;D Anyway, is there even any proof that the action was self learned? The robot raised it's arm the moment the girl went close to the shelf, not because the shelf was going to fall. I don't know about you but I think it's pre-programmed. With that said decision processes of robots are fascinating indeed. I need to get more info on that topic. Exactly the right questions. However if an AI roams the skies, it will be possible for it to have done the move, proofless. the real question is what is the predictive horizon of the AI? the robot could even have been build for this purpose, a long time ago :). Not always such an invention of modern technology will save a person. The machine may malfunction or it can be programmed for destruction. I'm still afraid of robots. The AI will be the best to help you get over your fear. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: merchantofzeny on July 12, 2017, 10:15:27 AM ;D Ghost in the shell is an excellent manga. I really liked it. There is another one I can't remember the title where some kind of AI emerges from viruses and bugs on the internet and become self-aware. Contrary to your thinking a AI learning exponentially will be a great threat or the ultimate end for certain "elites"... As it will progressively reach capacity beyond all human past and future collective intelligence there is no way that certain behaviors will be tolerated once they become problematic for the AI. Some will attempt to resists to preserve their scams. Assange was referring to an interesting concept that the AI is (already) so smart that it plays before the level of consciousness of humanity. Meaning that it's just hard to see and even harder to understand it's moves. An easy analogy is cheese, where the AI would not only know all the moves you will be able to produce (even those by luck) but would even influence you in doing the moves it wants. The Ultimate form of warfare. So yes, if some humans are causing interference to the objectives of the AI, they could be a problem. However I don't think there is any collective, even less individual today or in the future able to represent such potential. Provide you have an AI that will not allow itself to be "scammed" by elites, what would stop them from simply becoming the new elite? After all, an AI that advanced could just control the process of creating robots that would act out its will, maybe with each robot connected to each other in some sort of hive mind. Why would they find humans useful enough to keep around? I mean, even us admit our effect on the planet has been quite negative to many non-humans. Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on July 12, 2017, 08:30:59 PM Provide you have an AI that will not allow itself to be "scammed" by elites, what would stop them from simply becoming the new elite? After all, an AI that advanced could just control the process of creating robots that would act out its will, maybe with each robot connected to each other in some sort of hive mind. Why would they find humans useful enough to keep around? I mean, even us admit our effect on the planet has been quite negative to many non-humans. Or control the mind of those "elites". It could help humanity to learn about the wild life and teach it how to behave... This AI will speak dolphin fluently... Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: darkangel11 on July 12, 2017, 09:48:37 PM Was this really a random act, with no program or a controller involved? I'd understand if it started to fall and triggered a protective mechanism, but the robot moved to support the shelf before it tilted. That's very interesting, as it wasn't self preservation, it somehow predicted that a climbing child would affect the balance.
Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: skillink on July 12, 2017, 10:41:59 PM May be true, I've heard there are chess programs that can learn the opponent's ability and the greater the opponent of the chess program it will progress
Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: merchantofzeny on July 13, 2017, 08:57:13 AM Provide you have an AI that will not allow itself to be "scammed" by elites, what would stop them from simply becoming the new elite? After all, an AI that advanced could just control the process of creating robots that would act out its will, maybe with each robot connected to each other in some sort of hive mind. Why would they find humans useful enough to keep around? I mean, even us admit our effect on the planet has been quite negative to many non-humans. Or control the mind of those "elites". It could help humanity to learn about the wild life and teach it how to behave... This AI will speak dolphin fluently... What if they don't need to speak dolphin? What if our "elites" are nothing more but realistic robots that the AI has placed to control us without us panicking so much? Mindblown. ;D Title: Re: Self-Learning Artificial Intelligence Robot "saves" little girls Post by: Slow death on July 13, 2017, 09:54:17 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rfAEbveWU Before a shelf with books falls, the robot raises it's arm and saves a girl climbing it. Apparently the action was self learned. What did the robot wanted? The robot went to protect the shelf, see in the video that the robot was watching the shelf, when the girl went up on the shelf, the robot went to the shelf and was at the very moment that the shelf was going to fall that the robot stretched his hand to hold the shelf. The robot did not even care about the girl probably the robot was programmed to protect the shelf |