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Dear ICO-community,

I am wondering will there be any interest for new ICO project for private and anonymous hotels chain?

What does it mean?

Depend on blockchain we would like to create the world's first hotel chain where guests could anonymously (without having to prove their identity) stay. We would like to connect hotels all over the world in our network, give them the necessary software or even build/buy some hotels on our own. We know that anonymous stay in some country is illegal but we have an idea how we can change it.

What do you think about this idea? Would you contribute in it?

Team anonhotels.com

While the whole cryptocurrency is about being anonymous it might work well.
I wonder what others think. Maybe it would be good if we could see some more details about the idea

Your idea can not work within the legal framework.

@klarki

It depends on the country, in some country you do not need to show your ID. Moreover when you sleep in your friends apartment your id?

Isn't the issue decentralisation, not anonymity. For example, removing the need for a third-party aggregators like air bnb.

Decentralization is also important in our project. But anonymity and privacy are the most important.

As you can see here: https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/1237/how-does-providing-identification-on-airbnb-work?locale=en airbnb need ID verification in most cases.

 prove their identity is good for the customer， you know?
if a guy who take the gun to live in the hotel,
and the hotel didn't any recording of this guy,
you should consider the lawyer！

........just a dream
do you think it can admited by your country law?

I don't think that it is possible in most countries because of the laws.
I like anonymity but like someone said before how do you prevent criminals to bring weapons, drugs or maybe the terrorists to be able to stay there?

Firstly, I think that the idea of no-ID hotel is risky and has legal issues. How exactly do you plan to deal with it? Secondly, why do you want to create a specific currency to implement you idea into reality? I think a good idea would be to open a normal usual hotel in which people are required to provide some ID but may pay for the stay in some specific cryptocurrency. I think for such a business litecoin and dogecoin would be good ones to use.

Just use SYSCOIN for this.

Too many the countries will against your idea. I mean you must need the permission by the government to build the hotel that makes your idea doesn't make sense. But please never try to connecting the decentralized and anonymous idea with a non-sense thing like that. Do you think all of the project based on the decentralized or anonymous will have made those interested with it? i can say no.

Try to think a better innovation rather than provide the anonymous hotels.

I think this idea wont be work, because of in some countries it is just illegal and in those that stayed the demand may be not so big. I know such kind of hotels already exist and they may just start to accept bitcoins as a kind of anonyms payment and because of this hotels are known already people will prefer to go in there, but not in yours.

For me it is quite interesting but how would you make it happen? It is also illegal in some countries like you said but what idea in mind do you have to change it? Also I might not contribute in such idea because I might not be of some use to it and all I can do is to show support for it when an ICO about that has been launced. I would also like to know how would you keep each customers identity hidden when they would stay at a hotel?

i dont think it will Work.Because its mandatory to submit identity card proof while checking in hotel . May it work for illegal places not legal hotels so please make sure the country where you want to implement . There should not be any legal issue like persons identity for checkin hotel.

On paper, not a bad idea. In practicality? It'd need a LOT to get off the ground running. Illegal in the major countries due to reasons pointed up above. I think the biggest plus though is that unlike credit cards it does give more safety that people won't screw you for the money, no chargebacks. But then again, stability. Hotels and restaurants want something that'll be stable, not backflip and cause them to lose half their capital overnight.

I think it's a great concept but I also think it has many uphill journeys ahead to success. First, the supply chain of hotel rooms and demand side of hotel staying guest is a wild one. Hotels can't move. Guest move to freely ha at least in terms of a manageable market. Just the first thing that came to mind. I think it'd be great if I could rent a hotel room anonymously with a crypto but could bitcoin do that if the hotel accepted bitcoin. Hope this helps! Cheesr!

I don't think this would work. Not even from a legal sense but think of it this way, would you want some random anonymous person you don't know staying in your house with you? No idea on their background, name, anything.

Businesses care about that too, they want to have some way to track down a person if they vandalize or otherwise destroy the hotel. With a complete anonymous system there is no way to prevent people from renting a hotel room and completely trashing the place then leaving since the hotel has no way to pursue them for compensation. I can't see any business agreeing to this or, if they do, staying in business for very long after people abuse it.

Why there's always those guys that immediately criticize whenever someone comes up with a new idea ? Specially blockchain related... I mean, you gotta be dumb, right ?

Anyway, the best answer I can give you is that you might have something here.

Nothing incredible, nothing that will keep me awake tonight for sure... But yes, you can become rich out of this, definatly, even if you don't grow what you expect to (you probably won't)

It will always come down to how much effort you'll put into it through time and adversity

First thought that came to my head was this:

At least in the United States, requiring an ID to book a room is the law. US Hotel Check In Laws (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjArIq6_YHVAhUh8YMKHYPNAQ0QFggpMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftravel.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F76012%2Flaws-requiring-identification-at-hotel-checkin&usg=AFQjCNGzP61FmTjzOMgcsUe8Ja83aLM43A)

What is your plan to circumvent this? Uber/Lyft found a way to take on taxi companies.. its not impossible, but it is a hurdle nonetheless.

I like the idea and I think it can be profitable, but I see some risks:
1) The above mentioned legal risk associated with non-registration of guests. I'm not an expert on this but I do not agree with the previous speakers. My knowledge is that in a few countries in the world is obliged to register the exact location of a tourist. You need to conduct a thorough legal analysis of this issue before choosing specific locations. Of course, there are certainly separate rules for the hotel industry, but do you have to call it hotel?
2) Financial risk associated with an anonymous customer not paying for the service and you will not be able to identify him. For me the smallest because of the possibility of prepayment by coins.
3) The risk that an anonymous guest will destroy / steal a room / apartment and you will not be able to identify him to take responsibility. Personally, I would solve this problem by purchasing a suitably wide insurance policy, of course, this will increase operational costs but it will take away your risk.
In summary, the idea is interesting and noteworthy, but needs to be refined from the legal side.

Apart from the point that every1 else said (being illegal in most countries, not being able to track vandalism, having a higher entry barrier if you force user to prepay their stay along with the insurance to get rid of the second problem mentioned etc.), I don't really see why would you need your own blockchain implementation to support this? What is the "software" that you will build? Couldn't that be implemented just by hotel accepting payments to their bitcoin/monero/zcash... wallet and not requiring users to ID themselves (and hotels don't have to change their software and retrain their stuff  - which is an enormous pain)? Also, who will be your target audience - scammers, cheaters, even robbers, rapists or worse ...? Can you really get hotels to willingly support this kind of customers just so they can rent a room or two more? I know there will be people who just want to be anonymous because of their ideology or they just don't want to tell their business partners they are actually on holidays somewhere etc., but your target audience is always people who see the greatest value in your idea, and your idea will definitely attract people from the first group I mentioned.