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Title: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: jubalix on July 11, 2017, 02:12:27 AM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: RoommateAgreement on July 11, 2017, 02:32:02 AM
i am still not sure about the bitcoin price drop "a lot" part but in case that happens the result is the most obvious one! LTC will go to the moon.

think about it. LTC has SegWit, it is  the copy of bitcoin. it has already activated the Lightning network (i am 80% sure about it!) and it has been around for a very long time (about 5 years i believe).

and so far in the altcoin market that everything is RED we can see LTC is still the same price with a high volume and compared to last week it is even higher.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: Teraboy on July 11, 2017, 02:36:42 AM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?
The first place is bitcoin, second is ethereum and the third is LTC. I think a lot of this caused by the UASF and especially the mother of greedy crypto politician such as jihan wuu. Too many people get rekt for their portfolios caused by this bad news.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: d5000 on July 11, 2017, 05:20:39 AM
If Segwit2x does not fail in this "first round" (July/August), then BTC will be the clear winner. Look at the bloody streets on Poloniex et al. - RIP Flippening ;D

If Segwit2x fails - it had a bug/problem today on testnet related to the hard fork code - then anything can happen. Myself, in this case, would vote for the BIP148 fork. I think if it gets traction then, Bitcoin's price can recover fast. But if a supermajority gets on board on "Bitmaincoin" and the UASF fork is too weak, I see bloody streets like never before. The winner then will be probably Litecoin if it advances further with Lightning integration - it seems, for now, the cryptocoin that is less affected by the Great Altcoin Dump.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: Herbert2020 on July 11, 2017, 05:58:44 AM
If Segwit2x does not fail in this "first round" (July/August), then BTC will be the clear winner. Look at the bloody streets on Poloniex et al. - RIP Flippening ;D

If Segwit2x fails - it had a bug/problem today on testnet related to the hard fork code - then anything can happen. Myself, in this case, would vote for the BIP148 fork. I think if it gets traction then, Bitcoin's price can recover fast. But if a supermajority gets on board on "Bitmaincoin" and the UASF fork is too weak, I see bloody streets like never before. The winner then will be probably Litecoin if it advances further with Lightning integration - it seems, for now, the cryptocoin that is less affected by the Great Altcoin Dump.

maybe it is just me but i see blood on the streets either way for the time being. these are just news for the market maker ;)
the dumps has been happening for about a month now and like always this is no different either. weak hands get shaken out and whales pick up the pieces after the storm and get richer every time.
this is for before that date and because of the uncertainty.

as for the outcome any of these proposals that don't gain enough support but becomes a thing will lead to even more blood on the streets. doesn't matter if it is BIP141, 148, 149 or btc1. and Bitmaincoin is just a joke anyways.
bottom line is i honestly can not see anything good coming out of a fork with low support. i say either gain >95% support or leave bitcoin be the same.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: deisik on July 11, 2017, 11:08:44 AM
If Segwit2x does not fail in this "first round" (July/August), then BTC will be the clear winner. Look at the bloody streets on Poloniex et al. - RIP Flippening ;D

If Segwit2x fails - it had a bug/problem today on testnet related to the hard fork code - then anything can happen. Myself, in this case, would vote for the BIP148 fork. I think if it gets traction then, Bitcoin's price can recover fast. But if a supermajority gets on board on "Bitmaincoin" and the UASF fork is too weak, I see bloody streets like never before. The winner then will be probably Litecoin if it advances further with Lightning integration - it seems, for now, the cryptocoin that is less affected by the Great Altcoin Dump

This is what I've been telling for months

People are running for cover, and in a cryptoworld the US dollar is that cover (the dollar in the cryptoworld is the same as gold in real life). Obviously, the dollar won't give you high returns if you just keep it (very much like gold) even when you lend your dollars (loan rates went down tremendously last weeks), so some folks are searching for alternatives. And Litecoin hits the nail right on the head in this department. People are selling bitcoins and buying some litecoins, that's why its price is so resilient (unlike other altcoins)


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 11, 2017, 11:27:33 AM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?

IMO, BTC will be the winner. None of the other alts have even one-tenth of the userbase of BTC. Even if something bad happens in August, BTC will remain at the top. Another thing to remember is that whenever BTC drops, so does the other alts (perhaps even more sharply than the BTC).


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: AmunRa on July 11, 2017, 01:24:28 PM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?
I can't believe I m saying this but given the emotional circus surrounding bitcoin,Fork..no fork, China miners issue..etc at this point Ripple is making more sense to me.More speed,no blockchain issues has an explorer etc.So my money is on Ripple in the long term...


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: valta4065 on July 11, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
BTC price drop is obvious simply because summer has never been an awesome part of the year for crypto.

But I don't see why an alt should be the winner?
Historically speaking it was never a good period for alts either xD

I think the market will continue to crash globally. There is no reason for this rise to continue without any stop ^^


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: celested on July 11, 2017, 01:46:52 PM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?

Bitcoin is a core currency, so we have all the bases to believe in. In addition, I am quite impressed with the evolution of ETH and LTC, which is considered to be the strongest coin in The present moment, therefore, is not too surprising if they are one of the winning currencies.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: Denker on July 11, 2017, 01:47:54 PM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?
I can't believe I m saying this but given the emotional circus surrounding bitcoin,Fork..no fork, China miners issue..etc at this point Ripple is making more sense to me.More speed,no blockchain issues has an explorer etc.So my money is on Ripple in the long term...

You gotta be kidding!
So you will put your savings in a completely centralized system where they can do whatever they want?! Jesus christ!
Well good luck with that pretty dumb idea!
BTC will stay be the number one!SegWit will get activated and no hardfork will happen. And if the hf should happen in any case, these chinese and corporate dummies will learn that their highly centralized and corrupt version of a wanna be Bitcoin Blockchain won't have any serious significance in the long run, in terms of price, user adoption and technological progress!


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: AmunRa on July 11, 2017, 02:05:20 PM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?
I can't believe I m saying this but given the emotional circus surrounding bitcoin,Fork..no fork, China miners issue..etc at this point Ripple is making more sense to me.More speed,no blockchain issues has an explorer etc.So my money is on Ripple in the long term...

You gotta be kidding!
So you will put your savings in a completely centralized system where they can do whatever they want?! Jesus christ!
Well good luck with that pretty dumb idea!
BTC will stay be the number one!SegWit will get activated and no hardfork will happen. And if the hf should happen in any case, these chinese and corporate dummies will learn that their highly centralized and corrupt version of a wanna be Bitcoin Blockchain won't have any serious significance in the long run, in terms of price, user adoption and technological progress!

As I said.." I can't believe I m saying this" lol..yeah it would be a perfect solution if not centralized..but is very effective stil


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: giantrobot on July 11, 2017, 02:19:46 PM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?

There are too many options here, however, I think bitcoin core is always strong in everyone's beliefs, besides, segwit2x is also a good method that is worth it.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: chip1994 on July 11, 2017, 03:52:48 PM
If Segwit2x does not fail in this "first round" (July/August), then BTC will be the clear winner. Look at the bloody streets on Poloniex et al. - RIP Flippening ;D

If Segwit2x fails - it had a bug/problem today on testnet related to the hard fork code - then anything can happen. Myself, in this case, would vote for the BIP148 fork. I think if it gets traction then, Bitcoin's price can recover fast. But if a supermajority gets on board on "Bitmaincoin" and the UASF fork is too weak, I see bloody streets like never before. The winner then will be probably Litecoin if it advances further with Lightning integration - it seems, for now, the cryptocoin that is less affected by the Great Altcoin Dump.
Well, if Bitcoin fails in next time to testing SegWit2x, LTC is one of altcoin can replace for this fails, Charlee will continue PR again =)).

ETH, DASH, IOTA and NEM can't reach to highest price in next time because are have pumped to a best price can take a huge profit, need time to price adjustment.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: d5000 on July 11, 2017, 10:33:36 PM
the dumps has been happening for about a month now and like always this is no different either. weak hands get shaken out and whales pick up the pieces after the storm and get richer every time.
That is what happened/happens with Bitcoin. On the altcoin side, I see real blood, that means, a crash that will take them several months or years to recover, if they recover at all.


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as for the outcome any of these proposals that don't gain enough support but becomes a thing will lead to even more blood on the streets. doesn't matter if it is BIP141, 148, 149 or btc1. and Bitmaincoin is just a joke anyways.

There are differences. If BTC1/Segwit2x "wins" the battle of this summer (northern hemisphere ;) ) then we will already see that several days before August 1. That means that around this date I don't expect too much movement to the downside, and a bull run is likely. But in this case, there will be a crash in September/October because of the uncertainty about the 2MB hard fork. But it's unlikely it goes below $2000 (or $1850) then.

In the case BIP148 wins and a split becomes likely, then I expect a more harsh "climate" in late July and August and probably a crash down to the old $1350 high or even further down.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: gentlemand on July 11, 2017, 10:54:31 PM
I can't believe I m saying this but given the emotional circus surrounding bitcoin,Fork..no fork, China miners issue..etc at this point Ripple is making more sense to me.More speed,no blockchain issues has an explorer etc.So my money is on Ripple in the long term...

You're fucking batty.

Ripple as a value proposition outside pumpage doesn't appear to exist to me. No bank is going to use something exposed to market forces. As with all these alts all these 'xxx is adopting us' = adapting the code and buggering off.

If Bitcoin splinters or gets taken over by a bunch of suits then your best bet is dollars and then turning them into a bunch of car washes.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 12, 2017, 04:17:06 AM
If Segwit2x does not fail in this "first round" (July/August), then BTC will be the clear winner. Look at the bloody streets on Poloniex et al. - RIP Flippening ;D

If Segwit2x fails - it had a bug/problem today on testnet related to the hard fork code - then anything can happen. Myself, in this case, would vote for the BIP148 fork. I think if it gets traction then, Bitcoin's price can recover fast. But if a supermajority gets on board on "Bitmaincoin" and the UASF fork is too weak, I see bloody streets like never before. The winner then will be probably Litecoin if it advances further with Lightning integration - it seems, for now, the cryptocoin that is less affected by the Great Altcoin Dump.

After reading your post, I have decided to make an investment in LTC. Litecoin is looking very attractive, and strong as of now. Also, in future I will be making investments in the Jihancoin or Bitmaincoin (whatever name you guys wan to call it). There is a good chance that if SegWit2x fails, then Jihancoin can give us huge ROI.


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: JohnUser on July 12, 2017, 07:39:59 AM
Jihancoin and Bitmaincoin, two funny name, i won't forget them ;)


Title: Re: the next few months....my predictions
Post by: Wind_FURY on July 12, 2017, 07:51:39 AM
We will see the uncertainty around the various transitions of USAF ... FORKS 2MBSegwit and whatever will see BTC price drop alot....then a winner will appear and go to 10K each or a market cap of circa $200B on its own within the year.

The question is, that winner BTC, ETH, LTC, IOTA, NEM or DASH?

If Bitcoin see a very big price drop then all of the other coins will go down in market capitalization. That is the nature of the market. All the altcoins you listed do not have real world usage except for BTC. But if I had to choose then I believe LTC has a good chance only of BTC is not in that list.

I also like to add that I believe XMR is better than all those altcoins in your list.