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Title: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 12, 2017, 11:56:02 AM
Hi guys.

What do you think about this pumpbot? He is fully automated. He doesnt work with telegram. He can find pump by himself :)

https://youtu.be/UOn1M_vlvqU look here.

Do you have experience with other pumpbot?


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 12, 2017, 12:45:36 PM
Hi guys.

What do you think about this pumpbot? He is fully automated. He doesnt work with telegram. He can find pump by himself :)

https://youtu.be/UOn1M_vlvqU look here.

Do you have experience with other pumpbot?
Quite good work but does that work most of the times or just sometimes?

Its up to you what profit you setting. If you see order history, i put in config big profit in settings file (that file isnt in video). In ver2 i will apply stoploss algorythm, that will be follow price and sell when the price decrease. :) Most of time i have buy order in the first 10 orders... And many times i catch "premium groups prepumps" ...


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: ether19 on July 12, 2017, 12:50:46 PM
Hi guys.

What do you think about this pumpbot? He is fully automated. He doesnt work with telegram. He can find pump by himself :)

https://youtu.be/UOn1M_vlvqU look here.

Do you have experience with other pumpbot?
Quite good work but does that work most of the times or just sometimes?

Its up to you what profit you setting. If you see order history, i put in config big profit in settings file (that file isnt in video). In ver2 i will apply stoploss algorythm, that will be follow price and sell when the price decrease. :) Most of time i have buy order in the first 10 orders... And many times i catch "premium groups prepumps" ...

I don't know man. Give it a try with a small amount of BTC and see how it can handle the trades, don't except the bot to make money all the time. But I guess, it is worth to give it a try.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 12, 2017, 12:54:37 PM
Hi guys.

What do you think about this pumpbot? He is fully automated. He doesnt work with telegram. He can find pump by himself :)

https://youtu.be/UOn1M_vlvqU look here.

Do you have experience with other pumpbot?
Quite good work but does that work most of the times or just sometimes?

Its up to you what profit you setting. If you see order history, i put in config big profit in settings file (that file isnt in video). In ver2 i will apply stoploss algorythm, that will be follow price and sell when the price decrease. :) Most of time i have buy order in the first 10 orders... And many times i catch "premium groups prepumps" ...

I don't know man. Give it a try with a small amount of BTC and see how it can handle the trades, don't except the bot to make money all the time. But I guess, it is worth to give it a try.

I am using that bot 4th day, and profit 30%... But with small amounts yet.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 12, 2017, 03:08:44 PM
You can write me a mail, adress is in video...


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: eternalgloom on July 12, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?
Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: iram3130 on July 12, 2017, 07:07:24 PM
Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?
Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.

Looks good to me but have to check with malwares. The hackers are getting stronger and stronger everyday, finding new things to inflict our computers. If it's not OP's bot then let us know how much it'll cost or any other thing.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: bitbunnny on July 12, 2017, 07:25:32 PM
I don't beleive in bots and I don't trust them. Just don't beleive that they can do all the work instead of you and make you money. It sounds more like some kind of fraud attempt for naive people who think they caz make easy money over night. I wouldn't count on that, better do it yourself.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: SCCFX on July 12, 2017, 07:58:45 PM
pump and dump bot is need big money can work
without money is nothing, and big advantage only BOT founder or pump and dump founder community


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: bitllionaire on July 12, 2017, 08:14:32 PM
I don't beleive in bots and I don't trust them. Just don't beleive that they can do all the work instead of you and make you money. It sounds more like some kind of fraud attempt for naive people who think they caz make easy money over night. I wouldn't count on that, better do it yourself.
even i am also not in favour of bot. its look like artificial and therefore it look like fraud attempt and nothing else. i think thinking about money to make over night can cause a lot scamming problems. therefore i will never favour it.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: Shishir99 on July 12, 2017, 08:17:03 PM
I don't think it really works.
You can try some trading bot.
There are few good trading bots available.
But i am not suggesting to use them.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: BitMaxz on July 12, 2017, 11:39:39 PM
pump and dump bot is need big money can work
without money is nothing, and big advantage only BOT founder or pump and dump founder community
Its risky if you invest a lot of money there.. since its a bot anytime they can hi jack your funds .. so becareful when choosing a bot
Anytime soon your invest will gone.. and i think the bot is not guaranteed that you can make a large profit it will still depends in your own setup.
The best that i think we can do is to do manual watching and use some alert from cellphone or watch and monitor the movement like a site bitcoinwisdom..
Using bot you can be lose a lot  of using a bot.. much better to find a safety way that you can control the flow of your money,


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: shamzblueworld on July 13, 2017, 03:33:48 AM
I don't really like the idea of a bot doing tradings for you, because bots can never be smart as humans(or dumb for that matter), because they are programmed to do certain things and they'll only do that without recognizing the situations or anything.
So it is definitely risky, but if you're doing a lot much of trading and have no time in your hand, maybe then this is a risk you should take, but not in the normal day trading.
But I'm not saying its not gonna work, it may work well for you.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: Coroline on July 13, 2017, 03:59:21 AM
I doubt it will be works, actually most of pump and dump bring a people to make a community, but in case is different, this like a get notice from the bot.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: crazyivan on July 13, 2017, 06:14:56 AM
I doubt it will be works, actually most of pump and dump bring a people to make a community, but in case is different, this like a get notice from the bot.

+1 to this.

Those who make money on pumps re organizers,mods and ops cause they have info what coin they will announce to the group to be pumped and they fill their bags with that coin PRIOR they announce the coin.
BS.


Try to find something where you actually work for your money.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: pawanjain on July 13, 2017, 06:23:03 AM
I think pump and dump is like stealing other's money. Because when a pump happens the people who pump the coin already buy the coins at cheaper rate and when they start dumping the sell their coins at higher value . They are ones who make huge profits while others trade their coins in loss.
This was what happened to me when i did it the first 3 times . After that i never traded coins in a pump. And i think it has become a major reason why the market is going down nowadays. Because most of the people have stuck with their coins on lower values than they bought.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: tompet on July 13, 2017, 09:05:16 AM
I don't really like the idea of a bot doing tradings for you, because bots can never be smart as humans(or dumb for that matter), because they are programmed to do certain things and they'll only do that without recognizing the situations or anything.
So it is definitely risky, but if you're doing a lot much of trading and have no time in your hand, maybe then this is a risk you should take, but not in the normal day trading.
But I'm not saying its not gonna work, it may work well for you.

Bot is as smart, as it's creator. Human can't process such a variable market with a lot of changes every millisecond. I tried to do it manually, but it's, of course, too slow. I consider manual trading in this situation more risky than using bot, especially with such a conservative strategy, as we use :)


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 13, 2017, 09:07:38 AM
Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?
Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.

Of course i cant publish the link. That was hard work make that bot and i cant publish it for free. I can publish many videos like this, or copy of my order history. I know that, this things we can photoshoped and do things like this... For me that looks like you wanna our bot for free and you hide that like "virus scanning"...

And if somebody says that bots never be smart than human. Then he is completly wrong. You and nobody cant compute faster then computer. Deal with it.

If its there way how i can proof that bot works, i am listen.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: tompet on July 13, 2017, 09:12:15 AM
Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?
Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.

Looks good to me but have to check with malwares. The hackers are getting stronger and stronger everyday, finding new things to inflict our computers. If it's not OP's bot then let us know how much it'll cost or any other thing.

We're deploying new licenced version soon, so you could check it for malwares :) stay tuned!


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: aoihs00 on July 14, 2017, 06:15:18 AM
I hate this kind of stuff really. Pump bots are uncertain algorithm which can dump your wealth at any cost. To be honest pump and dumping artificially sounds very ridiculous to me as it drains the economic system from its roots. What I mean by this statement here is, it will invest big money by targeting coins or assets make it valuable by artificial means and once satisfied with the price it will start dumping it and it will do that at such extend that the coin may not bear the cost of coming back again. Its really unhealthy for the market. But anyway people won’t gonna stop as they are much more greedy.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: crazyivan on July 14, 2017, 06:37:12 AM
Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?
Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.

Of course i cant publish the link. That was hard work make that bot and i cant publish it for free. I can publish many videos like this, or copy of my order history. I know that, this things we can photoshoped and do things like this... For me that looks like you wanna our bot for free and you hide that like "virus scanning"...

And if somebody says that bots never be smart than human. Then he is completly wrong. You and nobody cant compute faster then computer. Deal with it.

If its there way how i can proof that bot works, i am listen.


You d gonna have hard time selling it just based on videos. There have been so many fake videos of faucet bots, trading bots, lending bots and so on where people would send money and get nothing in return. Plus you re a new member so you have 0 reputation. I suggest you give vouch copies to 3-4 respectable members of the community and let them test it under condition they come back here and post their reviews.

If u re not willing to do that, well, I dont see how else can you convince people u re not a scammer.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: olushakes on July 14, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
Hi guys.

What do you think about this pumpbot? He is fully automated. He doesnt work with telegram. He can find pump by himself :)

https://youtu.be/UOn1M_vlvqU look here.

Do you have experience with other pumpbot?

It could be something intelligent, but I don't  see any difference it will give compare to other bot that work with various exchanges like the GUNBOT that we have around. I have always personally does not subscribe to those pump and dump groups because I see it as an artificial way of price manipulation. But with BOT I think its a good idea if it can offer something more


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: tompet on July 14, 2017, 03:14:25 PM
Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?
Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.

Of course i cant publish the link. That was hard work make that bot and i cant publish it for free. I can publish many videos like this, or copy of my order history. I know that, this things we can photoshoped and do things like this... For me that looks like you wanna our bot for free and you hide that like "virus scanning"...

And if somebody says that bots never be smart than human. Then he is completly wrong. You and nobody cant compute faster then computer. Deal with it.

If its there way how i can proof that bot works, i am listen.


You d gonna have hard time selling it just based on videos. There have been so many fake videos of faucet bots, trading bots, lending bots and so on where people would send money and get nothing in return. Plus you re a new member so you have 0 reputation. I suggest you give vouch copies to 3-4 respectable members of the community and let them test it under condition they come back here and post their reviews.

If u re not willing to do that, well, I dont see how else can you convince people u re not a scammer.

You're completely right! We'll soon release licenced version and pass it to someone with good reputation to make an review. Thanks :)


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 24, 2017, 01:28:34 PM
Ok guys, we have new version.

And we have licensed version so we can offer free trial :)

https://youtu.be/4h1FtfaiY7U


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: Serpens66 on July 24, 2017, 06:08:00 PM
if it works fine, why aren't you just running it all the time ? You would be millionaire already and no need to sell the bot .
And the more people using this bot, the worse wil be the result for everyone, cause of low liquidity of pump coins.

So I think it is only worth to sell a bot, if you can make more money by selling it. And that means the profit while using the bot is low or it is scam.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 25, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
if it works fine, why aren't you just running it all the time ? You would be millionaire already and no need to sell the bot .
And the more people using this bot, the worse wil be the result for everyone, cause of low liquidity of pump coins.

So I think it is only worth to sell a bot, if you can make more money by selling it. And that means the profit while using the bot is low or it is scam.

Hi,

Ad 1 because sometimes you catch not a real pump. thats why we cant play program 24/7.

Ad 2, if you want earn some on pumps, you cant put too much gain in your trade because of liquidity. So you are not will be millionaire in a month :D

Ad 3, we can earn in 2 weeks that much, that cost our bot. (and our bot is not expensive)

Ad 4. Actually we develop bot that will be work nonstop.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: rozee on July 25, 2017, 01:53:01 PM
i never try this service but this bot created by human i am sure the bot programmed with creator idea we never know what the creator think, but if you still curious you can try it first with small amount if the bot work so good you can try with bigger amount


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: erep on July 25, 2017, 06:03:08 PM
i never try this service but this bot created by human i am sure the bot programmed with creator idea we never know what the creator think, but if you still curious you can try it first with small amount if the bot work so good you can try with bigger amount

Try the bot only if you believe that a pump is predictable, I dont think it is possible but the owner is claiming that it will find pumps so there is not much problem in trying it out with different scenarios. I would love to test if it is ok for you.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 25, 2017, 06:14:41 PM
i never try this service but this bot created by human i am sure the bot programmed with creator idea we never know what the creator think, but if you still curious you can try it first with small amount if the bot work so good you can try with bigger amount

Try the bot only if you believe that a pump is predictable, I dont think it is possible but the owner is claiming that it will find pumps so there is not much problem in trying it out with different scenarios. I would love to test if it is ok for you.

No problem, if you can test it just send me email, it is in video description.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: swogerino on July 25, 2017, 07:05:13 PM
Some bots may work but I don't believe in artificial intelligence at all. Many projects have failed while many have worked as they should , the automatic pilot in an aeroplane. Although artificial intelligence is needed for science to evolve, in trading I only believe the human brain as it is the most capable of finishing successful profitable trades.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 25, 2017, 07:12:20 PM
Some bots may work but I don't believe in artificial intelligence at all. Many projects have failed while many have worked as they should , the automatic pilot in an aeroplane. Although artificial intelligence is needed for science to evolve, in trading I only believe the human brain as it is the most capable of finishing successful profitable trades.

But this is simple task guys... I dont understand how you cannot understand that.

You just have advantage before people who put manually buy and sell. Program do that himself. And what happen on market when the pump is, that is really easy to detect. Many many orders in one second accurate to one coin.

Think about that.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: Serpens66 on July 26, 2017, 01:04:50 AM
I don't think your bot can work.
I mean how can he find out about the pump ~1 minute before the coin is announced?
The pumper guy himself bought all his coins already days ago in small chunks scattered over the days.
And he also placed his sell orders that way.
All he has to do now, is to announce a pump. Before he announces it, there can't be any action a bot could detect.

All that would be possible, is to detect unusual high volume, while the pumper is buying the coins. But this would be days before the actual pump, not a minute before announcing it. Or it is possible to detect an unusual price rise right when the pump started. But then it is usually too late to buy, even for a bot.

But the biggest fear at the moment is, that you do not offer a bot, but a virus or similar thing... I'm no expert with such things, so you need several trusted members that check your files and write here that it is secure.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on July 26, 2017, 05:05:54 PM
I don't think your bot can work.
I mean how can he find out about the pump ~1 minute before the coin is announced?
The pumper guy himself bought all his coins already days ago in small chunks scattered over the days.
And he also placed his sell orders that way.
All he has to do now, is to announce a pump. Before he announces it, there can't be any action a bot could detect.

All that would be possible, is to detect unusual high volume, while the pumper is buying the coins. But this would be days before the actual pump, not a minute before announcing it. Or it is possible to detect an unusual price rise right when the pump started. But then it is usually too late to buy, even for a bot.

But the biggest fear at the moment is, that you do not offer a bot, but a virus or similar thing... I'm no expert with such things, so you need several trusted members that check your files and write here that it is secure.

I am still waiting for that members.

And Ad1. If i tell you how i do pump detect. Will be there space for sell?


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on August 22, 2017, 03:29:01 PM
We have new version of our bot, you can test it. We can give you 1 day license key. :)

there is pump detector function... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmp9SNkhBT4


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: Hui8 on August 22, 2017, 03:44:32 PM
Hi guys.

What do you think about this pumpbot? He is fully automated. He doesnt work with telegram. He can find pump by himself :)

https://youtu.be/UOn1M_vlvqU look here.

Do you have experience with other pumpbot?

I have mixed feeling for this bot really. The fear is coming from the fact that it is fully automatic and don't rely on the presumption. I'm still wondering from where it might be getting the data? It has to give some input and by calculating the probability it will give xyz output. That is how a bot or algorithm works. But I see no data feed in this one. Isn't that's scary? What if it puts everything on the stakes and you loose. Lols that would be ridiculous. I want to try it but I need to clear off my ambiguity first.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on August 22, 2017, 08:10:24 PM
Hi guys.

What do you think about this pumpbot? He is fully automated. He doesnt work with telegram. He can find pump by himself :)

https://youtu.be/UOn1M_vlvqU look here.

Do you have experience with other pumpbot?

I have mixed feeling for this bot really. The fear is coming from the fact that it is fully automatic and don't rely on the presumption. I'm still wondering from where it might be getting the data? It has to give some input and by calculating the probability it will give xyz output. That is how a bot or algorithm works. But I see no data feed in this one. Isn't that's scary? What if it puts everything on the stakes and you loose. Lols that would be ridiculous. I want to try it but I need to clear off my ambiguity first.

Our algorythm is littlebit secret. You can try it first do manually pump. You can look at that feature at our channel. :)


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: CyberKuro on August 22, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
The idea of trading bot is never miss an opporunity to buy and sell at the right time whenever pump and dump happen, but the most important thin s to choose which coin to be an object. I have never use trading bot before but it's look so tempting to tried, but unfortunately I'm not a trader  ;D.
I am sure trading bot will be profitable as long as people are not greedy, always set for big profits which cause his orders may never be executed.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: ss890 on August 23, 2017, 04:21:21 PM
Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?
Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.


If it is that risky then why even we should give it a shot. There should be proper announcements of the bot in the forum which are checked time to time for the malware or junk like that. I don't believe bot system anyway because I feel they can eat my money at any time. Also, they are idiots sometimes in making decision. When they are loosing they will put double stake in the trade and you might just drain your balance . Lols.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: Qunenin on August 24, 2017, 08:30:44 AM
Nothing against it but it seems like kind of an unknown piece of software. That doesn't mean it can't be trusted but what I was thinking, is that you would be better off going with a couple of the trading Bots that are out there and simply configuring them in such a way that they do the same thing as the pump bought is doing. If you could set the settings for these trading box with enough finesse you can have them doing anything you want them to do. They don't have to be configured and released for specific purpose as long as they have high limits low limits and event triggers that you could pretty much do anything you want with them.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: giveen on August 24, 2017, 10:38:49 AM
Don't trust them there are many of these out there and they are evn accurate but to perform this they will obviously need your account details and most of these bots in past have stolen people funds in the account.
Or they pre pump it and give the customers a loss and make profits it's better you don't engage in these pump dump stuff.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: JohnBitCo on August 27, 2017, 06:40:32 AM
Nothing against it but it seems like kind of an unknown piece of software. That doesn't mean it can't be trusted but what I was thinking, is that you would be better off going with a couple of the trading Bots that are out there and simply configuring them in such a way that they do the same thing as the pump bought is doing. If you could set the settings for these trading box with enough finesse you can have them doing anything you want them to do. They don't have to be configured and released for specific purpose as long as they have high limits low limits and event triggers that you could pretty much do anything you want with them.

And, using two separate accounts to separate trading bots, you can have even more control over your for folio for coming at it from two different angles. This means that if you are at a loss at one bot, you will be a winner at a sceond trading bot, but then you need to make calculations as how much to trade for each bot other your profit will always be nil.


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: cryptinitron on October 04, 2017, 08:19:40 AM
Hi, just post there this video. We released new version, currently 1.0.5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z23OSXxW0Y



Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: frowsiter on October 06, 2017, 04:40:44 AM



Could you publish a link to the bot, so we can at least check it for virusses?

Looks interesting if it actually works, but a lot of these bots that are promoted via Youtube have malware on them.




If it is that risky then why even we should give it a shot. There should be proper announcements of the bot in the forum which are checked time to time for the malware or junk like that. I don't believe bot system anyway because I feel they can eat my money at any time. Also, they are idiots sometimes in making decision. When they are loosing they will put double stake in the trade and you might just drain your balance . Lols.




Lols. Indeed bots are just bots they can not really understand the pumping which is done humanly. How do they know if someone is discussing to pump the coin in next 24 hours with bunch of people at specific time. What if that coin is under the surveillance by that bot and it doesn't even get the chance to buy it as pump will be uncertain and that would illogical if the not tries to buy it at higher rates which are already gone up there due to human pump. That might just turn out to be loss after we start dumping it. I don't understand why would they work perfectly if such things can happen with telegram and twitter pampers. Better do it yourself. :-)


Title: Re: Pump and dump bot? What do you think?
Post by: hello_good_sir on October 06, 2017, 09:18:34 AM
If the idea works obviously it is going to be extremely interesting.

However, pumps can't really be predicted via TA but rather it's all about the hype surrounding the pumps. How a bot can analyze hype, i have no idea. Although i guess sideways movements are a good indication of a pump incoming and bot can pick it up as a signal.

There will definitely be risks involved, however.