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Title: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 07:39:20 PM
My pool's at www.triplemining.com and it says .....

Rewards that need validation: 0.00029017 BTC

And its been 24 hours and still no pay ? >:(  ??? :o
Anyone have this problem?


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: Nik1ab on May 11, 2013, 07:47:34 PM
Why are you angry because of a few cents?  :o


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 07:50:50 PM
Lol im not angry im just excited to see if mining BTc actually works :)   ;D Im planning to  buy games with Bitcoins
from this http://www.steambits.com/
although the game i want is like 0.2 BTc :/


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: Nik1ab on May 11, 2013, 07:53:29 PM
Ohh, okay got it  ;D I am mining at http://bitminter.com/ and I got like .09 BTC at the moment  :D


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
Im at TripleMining.com at the moment ,i dunno why but its temporary for now i get 4-5 MH/s with my CPU,but when i get my pc back with GPU(it will make like 650MH/s ,too excited ! Il join u when i get my Desktop from the store


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: Nik1ab on May 11, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
I can deffinately recommend bitminter.com if you want to switch. It has the easiest and most powerful miner I have ever seen  :D


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: inuyasha on May 11, 2013, 08:07:06 PM
Hi,

i presume validation means confirmation (in bitcoin "jargon"). When you mine bitcoins, after cracking a block you'll immediately know how much bitcoins did you earn however every block (25 btc) needs 120 confirmations (i think it means 120 more block have to be mined by the whole network)... So wait... Also bitminter.com have a feature which for a 1.5% fee (i think) will give you your bitcoins immediately. No need to wait for confirmations.

Be aware that bitminter (maybe also your pool) have a minimum amount of bitcoins which they're willing to send (bitminter 0.01BTC i think).

Bye.


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:08:58 PM
Okay will register to https://bitminter.com, and it says , automatic payout at : 0.01 Btc that could be it too...


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:10:28 PM
lol how doess https://bitminter.com/ work?


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: Nik1ab on May 11, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
What specifically don't you understand?


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:13:43 PM
which miner do i use (CPU miner) ?


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: Nik1ab on May 11, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
You can download their miner at "My account/Account settings" by clicking on the "engine start" button


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:18:32 PM
it download,i click the file , it said downloading application ,then disappeared??


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:21:21 PM
when its done downloading it says unable to launch , crap :/


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: Nik1ab on May 11, 2013, 08:23:12 PM
strange...  :-\


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:27:19 PM
wait i think its workin


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:34:19 PM
im only getting 200 Kh/s ,when i was at Triplemining I got 3-5Mh/s


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: hjurcic on May 11, 2013, 08:40:04 PM
Today, https://mining.bitcoin.cz is totally bed, it sucks...

I'm mining with500 Mhash/s and ALL I GOT today was 0.01BTC... Catastrophy!!!!

These days I usually got 0.025 with 500 MHash/s, but now it sucks

Anyone else has the same problem? Maybe new pool, this one became "not desireable"?


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: MatthewDietrichRSA on May 11, 2013, 08:41:55 PM
It takes 3 days for me to get what your getting with 4.5Mh/s , soon il pick my desktop up and have 650 Mh/s :D


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: inuyasha on May 11, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
Today, https://mining.bitcoin.cz is totally bed, it sucks...

I'm mining with500 Mhash/s and ALL I GOT today was 0.01BTC... Catastrophy!!!!

These days I usually got 0.025 with 500 MHash/s, but now it sucks

Anyone else has the same problem? Maybe new pool, this one became "not desireable"?

I suspect it might have something to do with pool's luck (statistics page -- 100% is normal)... I mine for mining.bitcoin.cz. There are good days and bad days... See the duration column in statistics. Anyway check if you have missed some blocks, see your BTC reward column -- the number should be +/- 10% the same otherwise you didn't have internet connection to the pool or some other failure prevented you from mining.

If indeed you mined the whole day non-stop it's the luck. Some times it takes few minutes to break a block some times hours. In the end mining bitcoins is highly about probability and in the long run you'll get some average. I too have witnessed some bad and some good days :) It's all probability. See https://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/graphs/ the CDF graph and info near the end of the page and if interested follow the wikipedia's CDF link about how it works.

You'll experience (in the long run) these bad times with all pools (i've had some with bitminter too... don't even talking about solo mining -- all pools exactly counteract this bitcoin's characteristic). If you want you may read something about pool hopping, however mining.bitcoin.cz have some novel approach to kinda punish pool hoppers (see http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5072/what-is-pool-hopping ) I totally do not recommend it because it's unfair. I do not do it however YMMW.

Bye


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: inuyasha on May 12, 2013, 09:26:54 AM
Today, https://mining.bitcoin.cz is totally bed, it sucks...

I'm mining with500 Mhash/s and ALL I GOT today was 0.01BTC... Catastrophy!!!!

These days I usually got 0.025 with 500 MHash/s, but now it sucks

Anyone else has the same problem? Maybe new pool, this one became "not desireable"?

where are you from? is it just today or is few last days worse than before? not so long ago bitcoin.cz servers were moved into amazon cloud... not really up to anything, just gathering info cause I too have smaller revenues however not only yesterday...

i live in central europe

[edit] there really might be some problem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.8000 page 401...
sorry for jumping to conclusions too soon :) which stratum server do you use? people say stratum.bitcoin.cz might be better


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: hjurcic on May 12, 2013, 09:16:27 PM

where are you from? is it just today or is few last days worse than before? not so long ago bitcoin.cz servers were moved into amazon cloud... not really up to anything, just gathering info cause I too have smaller revenues however not only yesterday...

i live in central europe

[edit] there really might be some problem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.8000 page 401...
sorry for jumping to conclusions too soon :) which stratum server do you use? people say stratum.bitcoin.cz might be better

Hi inuyasha, I'm from Croatia... I can see that pool's luck has dropped to 75%... It should go down more for sure, because, today it was even more worse than yesterday...

From 0.025 per day, it became 0.01 per day :(

I moved to bitminter for now, until pool mine luck or serves became more profitable :)
Just decided to buy one 7950 but now, not sure if it's a good idea...


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: inuyasha on May 14, 2013, 11:16:22 AM

where are you from? is it just today or is few last days worse than before? not so long ago bitcoin.cz servers were moved into amazon cloud... not really up to anything, just gathering info cause I too have smaller revenues however not only yesterday...

i live in central europe

[edit] there really might be some problem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.8000 page 401...
sorry for jumping to conclusions too soon :) which stratum server do you use? people say stratum.bitcoin.cz might be better

Hi inuyasha, I'm from Croatia... I can see that pool's luck has dropped to 75%... It should go down more for sure, because, today it was even more worse than yesterday...

From 0.025 per day, it became 0.01 per day :(

I moved to bitminter for now, until pool mine luck or serves became more profitable :)
Just decided to buy one 7950 but now, not sure if it's a good idea...

hmm... i too have moved for a bit however bitminter's got some outages :( and luck is turning :( well... that's the game :) it really might have been just probability at work... yesterday and the day before were just awesome @ bitminter, now it's going down again... and bitcoin.cz's luck's 113% today... I should probably measure it somehow as this is just guesswork (more fun though:)

good luck with 7950 :) I'm still waiting for my butterfly labs asic :)


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: evilscoop on May 14, 2013, 11:19:13 AM
you'll be waiting a looooooooonnnng time :D


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: Dayne on May 14, 2013, 11:23:15 AM
I believe that triplemining holds a relatively small share of the network hashrate, so they would probably have a considerable delay in confirming blocks. (I could be COMPLETELY wrong about this, I am new.)

Also, if you have not already, read the comparison of different pool payment methods on www.bitcoinmining.com in the "Mining Pools" section.

I haven't looked into it, but I assume that triplemining pays in a triplemining system.

BitMinter uses PPLNS (which in my experience seems to be pretty fair). PPS is also a comfortable payment system for miners.

Here's some excerpts from www.bitcoinmining.com/bitcoin-mining-pools/

Quote
PPS: The Pay-per-Share (PPS) approach offers an instant, guaranteed payout for each share that is solved by a miner. Miners are paid out from the pools existing balance and can withdraw their payout immediately. This model allows for the least possible variance in payment for miners while also transferring much of the risk to the pool's operator.

PROP: The Proportional approach offers a proportional distribution of the reward when a block is found amongst all workers, based off of the number of shares they have each found.

PPLNS: The Pay Per Last N Shares (PPLN) approach is similar to the proportional method, but instead of counting the number of shares in the round, it instead looks at the last N shares, no matter the boundaries of the round.

Triplemining: Triplemining brings together medium-sized pools with no fees and redistributes 1% of every block found, which allows your share to grow faster than any other pool approach. The administrators of these pools use some of the Bitcoins generated when a block is found to add to a jackpot that is triggered and paid out to the member of the pool who found the block. In this way, everyone in the pool has a better chance to make additional Bitcoins, regardless of their processing power.

There are many other mining pool payment systems at that URL. (Y)


Title: Re: Why i am not getting paid(Bitcoins)?? HELP!!
Post by: inuyasha on May 14, 2013, 12:19:10 PM
you'll be waiting a looooooooonnnng time :D

... until all bitcoins have been mined :)