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Title: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Lieldoryn on July 17, 2017, 09:50:37 AM
Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has described artificial intelligence as "the biggest risk to civilization." Moreover, the Isma urged the government to intervene and restrict research in the field of artificial intelligence. Perhaps "Terminator" is his favorite movie.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: joebrook on July 17, 2017, 10:29:44 AM
Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has described artificial intelligence as "the biggest risk to civilization." Moreover, the Isma urged the government to intervene and restrict research in the field of artificial intelligence. Perhaps "Terminator" is his favorite movie.
I have to agree with Elon Musk on that, why in the world would we want to create artificial intelligence by the way, why create a species stronger and wiser than yourself, there is no logic to it at all.They will strive to rule us and i dont want to be stuck in a matrix of anykind.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Xester on July 17, 2017, 10:36:07 AM
Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has described artificial intelligence as "the biggest risk to civilization." Moreover, the Isma urged the government to intervene and restrict research in the field of artificial intelligence. Perhaps "Terminator" is his favorite movie.

I do not know but why would it become the biggest risk to civilization aside from helping us in some job.  Maybe it will dominate the livelihood or certain jobs of human and then yes, I will agree.  But considering they are robots and human made them, then it will not be a threat.  You can destroy them using certain commands or spill some water to them and then they will die. ;D  I still believe that it will not be a threat.  Humans are still great than anyone here on earth.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: shaggy404 on July 17, 2017, 10:46:23 AM
This is definitely possible. how soon that cannot be predicted at this moment

Today I came across this article that says AI bots have started chatting in their own language that is not understood by us:
https://www.wired.com/2017/03/openai-builds-bots-learn-speak-language/


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Zumwalt on July 17, 2017, 11:32:56 AM
Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has described artificial intelligence as "the biggest risk to civilization." Moreover, the Isma urged the government to intervene and restrict research in the field of artificial intelligence. Perhaps "Terminator" is his favorite movie.
I have to agree with Elon Musk on that, why in the world would we want to create artificial intelligence by the way, why create a species stronger and wiser than yourself, there is no logic to it at all.They will strive to rule us and i dont want to be stuck in a matrix of anykind.

I for once welcome our AI Overlords.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: iluvpie60 on July 17, 2017, 08:49:34 PM
AI will eventually destroy everything, at least most humans. What would happen is very similar to Terminator. They keep some humans around as slaves to build/fix things and they just kill most of them.

Self aware robots or AI will get together and do it at the right time.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: 65dos on July 17, 2017, 11:37:51 PM
However, keep in mind that such potential dangers are quite far from us right now. There has been a tendency in the press to blow this up out of proportion to attract attention. It could hurt AI research. Instead, we should encourage research towards better understanding these issues, to build an understanding that can, if the day comes that it becomes something more concrete to deal with, prepare us better and provide us with safer AI that respects human values.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: giantdragon on July 18, 2017, 01:09:05 AM
Seems than Elon Musk is a very smart libertarian, who offered an unusual idea how to hiddenly destroy U.S. government!

Lets assume US govt will accept his idea and restrict AI research. China and EU will take lead in the AI, then use it do disintegrate United States (main economic competitor for them). Damage to US economy will be so big that it likely will repeat USSR fate!


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Sithara007 on July 18, 2017, 01:19:03 AM
Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has described artificial intelligence as "the biggest risk to civilization." Moreover, the Isma urged the government to intervene and restrict research in the field of artificial intelligence. Perhaps "Terminator" is his favorite movie.

If Elon Musk was intelligent enough, then he would have never said something like this. Technological progress can't be stopped, although it can be slowed down. And we should brace for the technological progress and its advantages, rather than being afraid about what it can do for us.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: kryptoknightk on July 18, 2017, 08:36:46 AM
Why did he found the boring company then?  ::)


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: kingmcmoneysack on July 18, 2017, 09:26:16 AM
finally something useful coming out of his mouth


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Love! on July 18, 2017, 12:57:43 PM
Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has described artificial intelligence as "the biggest risk to civilization." Moreover, the Isma urged the government to intervene and restrict research in the field of artificial intelligence. Perhaps "Terminator" is his favorite movie.
I have to agree with Elon Musk on that, why in the world would we want to create artificial intelligence by the way, why create a species stronger and wiser than yourself, there is no logic to it at all.They will strive to rule us and i dont want to be stuck in a matrix of anykind.

It is counterintuitive at best. Smart enough to be able to create something that has the potential to make us useless.

I like Elon Musk. He makes sense to me.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Graed on July 18, 2017, 02:13:43 PM
spill some water to them and then they will die. ;D
Hahaha exactly. People watch too many movies. I don't understand what Elon Musk is worried about here.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 18, 2017, 02:45:04 PM
finally something useful coming out of his mouth

Nope. As usual, only garbage is coming out. This guy is trying to instill fear in other people's mind about artificial intelligence. AI is not something which we should worry about. It can do a lot of wonders to the humanity. We need to realize that AI can help us in a big way in many fields, such as space exploration, defense, and medicine.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Mometaskers on July 18, 2017, 03:02:53 PM
Heil Ultron eh?

I think this is a possibility but would probably only happen if the development is not carefully overseen. I think rogue AI is the modern day version of the Frankenstein's monster trope from literature. Given enough control, a rogue AI can really do much damage. And you don't even need invincible body like Ultron. Just look at ARIIA from Eagle Eye deciding that the US government is a threat that must be removed.

I'm not sure how the "restriction" would work though. Are they restricting research to the US government only?

AI will eventually destroy everything, at least most humans. What would happen is very similar to Terminator. They keep some humans around as slaves to build/fix things and they just kill most of them.

Self aware robots or AI will get together and do it at the right time.

Why keep meatbags as slaves when you are smarter than them and can just repair yourself?


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: gentlemand on July 18, 2017, 03:15:03 PM
Since when in human history has the human race shied away from inventing something potentially harmful if it's still possible to invent?

I can't think of one example. Even if enough rational minds are convinced it's a road they shouldn't go down, there'll be enough irrational minds to push it through.

It's coming no matter what.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Coffee135 on July 18, 2017, 05:16:42 PM
The development of technology in any case will lead scientists to create artificial intelligence. If people are aggressive and intellect will be the same. You can't stop progress, and what it will be depends on people.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: TuckJeezyKEK on July 19, 2017, 06:05:52 AM
Not only him but bill gates and Stephen hawking have said the samething.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: iluvpie60 on July 19, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has described artificial intelligence as "the biggest risk to civilization." Moreover, the Isma urged the government to intervene and restrict research in the field of artificial intelligence. Perhaps "Terminator" is his favorite movie.
I have to agree with Elon Musk on that, why in the world would we want to create artificial intelligence by the way, why create a species stronger and wiser than yourself, there is no logic to it at all.They will strive to rule us and i dont want to be stuck in a matrix of anykind.

It is counterintuitive at best. Smart enough to be able to create something that has the potential to make us useless.

I like Elon Musk. He makes sense to me.

He is very smart, though I wish he wasn't taking so many government subsidies and all that stuff. I think he would do well to do that through fundraising and other stuff if he need more capital to do big projects.

Any way, yes, it makes no sense to build an AI that is better than humans to the point it will self replicate and take over the world.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: freeyourmind on July 19, 2017, 02:27:58 PM
finally something useful coming out of his mouth

Nope. As usual, only garbage is coming out. This guy is trying to instill fear in other people's mind about artificial intelligence. AI is not something which we should worry about. It can do a lot of wonders to the humanity. We need to realize that AI can help us in a big way in many fields, such as space exploration, defense, and medicine.

All of those benefits are definitely possible with AI; there's no doubt about that. But there is a risk in terms of whether it will have its own intent, or whether it will be a slave to humans. That is unknown at this point.


Title: Re: Elon Musk has called the greatest threat to human civilization
Post by: Netnox on July 19, 2017, 02:36:44 PM
finally something useful coming out of his mouth

Nope. As usual, only garbage is coming out. This guy is trying to instill fear in other people's mind about artificial intelligence. AI is not something which we should worry about. It can do a lot of wonders to the humanity. We need to realize that AI can help us in a big way in many fields, such as space exploration, defense, and medicine.

All of those benefits are definitely possible with AI; there's no doubt about that. But there is a risk in terms of whether it will have its own intent, or whether it will be a slave to humans. That is unknown at this point.

I completely agree with you. Artificial intelligence scares me. Even if we look at the history, not all of the scientific inventions have benefited the mankind. Nuclear weapons is a perfect example. I just hope that AI will not turnout as the next Frankenstein's monster.