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i am not trying to turn this into another one of many speculation topics, i just want to point out that if people started educating themselves about bitcoin itself and the market and how price moves instead of hanging around bitcointalk and reddit and waiting for random newbie accounts to tell them "panic this is the end" they would have been a lot more successful in their lives...

what do you think?

I agree that they should do something better or more productive with their time but they're naive. These types of threads/questions are always annoying to me but some people are just worried and need re/assurance, but it's futile because nobody can ever give you an definite answer when it's to do with speculation. 99% of speculation threads are pointless and redundant to me anyway but people are never going to stop worrying or panicking or wondering whether bitcoin is going to hit that mythical price that is going to make them all rich.

You have a point mate. Newbies who just learn to trade don't know how volatile the price of bitcoin is. They just thought of buying some then sell later for profit. But that's not that easy. You have to learn and study how the market goes and to understand that the market is not always bullish. Those newbies has also the mentality that bitcoin is a quick rich scheme. And later they found out the hard way that it is not, so they panic the moment they saw bitcoin price is falling, then immediately sell it and exit. Then complaining that they are nervous, asking how can they recover, what they should etc.

I think you have made a troll post, seriously you are a member now and that means you have been here more than months, and you believe that legendary and all the higher ranked members care about some newbie coming here and saying hey folks it's ending and they would like oh shit thanks for the advice. For your records none of the newbies post ate ever considered valid or sat much thought is given, the legendary and high ranked members will only intervene when they feel he's badly informed, and every one been doing his bit, people do not like to listen about Bitcoins and it's a pain, if you missed there were many threads where we had discussed how to get family and others on Bitcoins. But it's not that easy. May I ask you, why you are here and not gone to educate people and realize first hand how bad it gets.

There will always be these kind of people who are either really naive or just plain stupid and that will probably never change. The best thing you can do is just educated yourself and try to educate people around you. That would be a step in the good direction.

people always want the easy way to do everything. and spending time and learning stuff like learning
what a fork is
if there really is any danger,
what is soft fork and what is hard fork and what are the risks
or generally to learn trading.
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instead they want to be told what to do, by a friend or worst an stranger on the internet. and they all want to get there in the shortest time possible!

whenever one of my friends ask me about bitcoin these days i tell them  don't bother me unless you are willing to spend time to learn some stuff :D

You're right.I believe some people have their eagerness to be educated and so they find ways by theirselves to learn.If those people close their minds to learn new things,then they refuse to become educated.

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I was a BRAND NEWBIE when I first came to bitcointalk (I had bought my first BTC maybe a month before).  I have learned a LOT from various members, both in general reading and asking for specifics (in posts and via private messages).

So, while I am not even close to being a programmer or expert, I have learned a lot here.  Alas, I have not learned what is going to happen on August 1.

At first, why would they hang on a bitcoin forum and in subforum in reddit if they don't have knowledge about bitcoin. It's either they are holding a lot of bitcoins already and they just want to have some fun talking to other people and exchanging some ideas. Just forget about them and let's just mind our very own business.

That's a good piece of advice and I do believe that educating yourself and learning at least the basics of whatever activity you take up in your life be it business or non business one is a must but I would like to add that the members especially the legendary, hero and senior ones of bitcointalk do have a great knowledge of bitcoin and they can be as helpful as no book on bitcoin can be. I agree not all the members are that technically sound but some of them surely are. So in my opinion after you have the basic knowledge of bitcoin you can learn a lot from all these members here on bitcointalk.

Those newbies you are talking too are not actually just a complete newbie but there are some who are being created just to create a fud and shills/hype and going with the flow on the current trend of the market.Some of them are already high rank members who are just keep shilling on the community.Total newbies do really need to learn up new things on here on this forum since its the most essential place to learn up about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

yes you are right now a lot of people are aware of bitcoin and the properties of the bitcoin they do not need to get educated about bitcoin so much just a few instructions can help them know almost all the feathers about bitcoin, now we live in an educated ere and we can get whatever we want nothing is impossible now a days.

Yes i definitely agree from what you said. People who are using bitcoin should be more focus on cryptocurrency and bitcoin just wasting there time. They should be more productive and put all of there time working here if they really wanted to get rich so badly.

As far as my involvement in bitcoin goes this place has been fantastic for information, help etc. I've made a fair bit of money with bitcoin (most still HODLED) so I disagree.

It's difficult when people already fear about bitcoin especially when they heard ransomware.
Trust is not simple things to obtain but it can be help if goverment also join to take care the issue. For some country still not legalize bitcoin yet may need some time to being accept

Yep - it's coming to an end. As a favour to you, I'll help you out by buying your Bitcoin before it all collapses. :)

If you can properly sort out the news from the fud and hype, this forum is a good place to start learning about bitcoin. I learned a lot from here. And do not judge the information because it came from a newbie, there are lots of hero and legendary members trolling the forum as well.

You are "Hero" not everyone  ;D
Well jokes apart, forums are meant for people to clear doubts regarding any topic in most socialize and personal way. You have charts, data, google etc but what forum offers is personal opinions of different users thus helping you to draw combine conclusions.
No doubt, BitcoinTalk is mostly spammed on topics from sig spammers and random newbies but still you can't find most productive info regarding Bitcoin anywhere else than here.

This is a must for everyone. Many of the people here are just focused on earning Bitcoin and neglect all the information they can learn by staying in here. I literally experience annoyance about people asking me what are the signature campaigns in this forum. At first, I posted something on a facebook page regarding earning bitcoins through signature campaigns. I literally said that they must learn on their own but they keep on bugging me how to do it. They were so annoying so I did not answer anymore question about it.

People just want an easy way to earn bitcoin and do not educate themselves about it. That is why when a slight decline happens, they sell already. They hear/read about something they do not fully understand, they sell immediately. Pity.

People don't educate themselves they expect other people to do it for them. Now Technically when it comes to bitcoin education is comes from forums like this and also this is one of the trusted forms &  the most of the administration is putting out true information but with Bitcoin this is basically the type of education that they're going to have to go with it to get a good base foundation and then go from there.

People are expecting that with bitcoin they could become rich in one night.
No, they cannot. These newbies problems is typical.
They just eat what other people's told them to do.
Without learning how the market goes and all.

Do you educate yourself about gamma decay and radioactive isotopes when you plug your phone? Bitcoin is supposed to be for the people, to protect what they own and make it safe. To make it simple, still. Now many people own, and see the nuclear companies threatening to destroy the public utility, or forcing people to choose sides, or choses to be taken by then. But more still, it's like they paid 50 years of electricity, and don't know what to do. Understanding what is really going on is MUCH more complicated than understanding quantum and general relativity-there is no single consensus on what is going on or what will happen.

So if instead of indulging in how you get it, while not explain it for the rest?

People are influenced by other people, no doubt, that is how peer pressure works. You are fine to have your own opinion and I won't bash you on that, and if you think bitcointalk and reddit are useless that is fine. But bitcointalk does educate people, and if you take a look around, you will see heaps of people's questions answered and them being relieved.

Actually, hanging around here is the way to learn more about bitcoin and its market. I was a newbie here and I have learned a lot from each crash and from other people. Some of you think that it is wast of time in here but to me, I believe that this forum is the best place to obtain more knowledge from veteran members. There are many sections around here. Also, you can start talking with other people so that they can teach you more about the bitcoin market

I think I agree, there are so many things that we can learned from this forum, sometimes internet can mislead people with false information and in this forum we can know how Bitcoin works and how to avoid scammer, I can get so many information from this forum and the most important it's the place to share experience

People must actually know what they were doing when they joined the signature campaigns, earn bitcoins, mine, and trade. A simple good rule of thumb is to post as if you're not part of any signature campaign, also, they need to explore venture-off-the-beating-path :)

Yes I agree with what you say, many of them do think they can get rich quickly using bitcoins, what they think is just a fantasy they do not understand how the price goes on whether it is going up or down, and some of the risk that Will arise in it, if want to be rich I think there is effort and struggle to achieve that goal, there is no instant way to get rich

I agree, but sad to say there are some who are not open to educating themselves about bitcoin instead are only riding whatever news or any nuisance they could hear or read about it. If everyone would've educated themselves then a lot wouldn't have panicked and sold their bitcoin because of the rumors about August 1.

I think so too. For example people often watch TV and their opinions are formed based on what the media is telling them. It can be a pretty tricky relationship and a lot of people dont realize how easily they are influenced

For me as well, first when I started I was all about Twitter and YouTube and following others. You learn eventually

Yes. We love reading topics that can help educating people especially about Bitcoins.
If we have new informations, we would love to share it in the forum.
Thank you to all generous people here.

Come on guys just chill. Don’t take the OP too serious, I feel pity for him for raising this type of question or comments. Look at this thing hanging out into bitcointalk, he thinks that we have joined this forum for fun sake.

If it was a gambling website then it might be a hangout anyway let me tell you that I have learned a lot from this forum and today at the position I am and whatever understanding I have about the bitcoin system is due to this forum, I feel blessed being here.

that is true when a person buy some bitcoin he start dreaming for large profit even without maximum amount of bitcoin he thinks like this but I think bitcoin is a name of patience and care if you will remain careful and will spend good time in collecting info about bitcoin then it is beneficial but if a person failed in getting bitcoin it will help you a lot.

lol dude everyone who is here is because this place can educate you the best about bitcoin, there is all the informations you ever need here to understand how bitcoin work, and what are the implications of this upcoming fork or chain split like you want

I think people in this forum is spending so many time doing bitcoin because they know to earn/make money in bitcoin. I think we are all educated here. Someone will not spend to much time on something if they think they will not get anything. They will think and feel that it is just a waste of time. They will rather go to instagram or twitter or facebook. It is quite boring here IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BITCOIN so why hang out on here? So we are all educated that is why we choose here than any other site.

How many people actually use the forum for that though? I mean, nobody gives a sh*t about what some newbie account says.
Same on Reddit, stupid posts simply get downvoted so nobody sees them.

The majority of people on this forum are here because of sig campaigns and to have a somewhat decent discussion about news that involves Bitcoin.

And most legit* newbies are here to get some help with basic things.

*People who made their first account to ask some questions

Some newbies have been into Bitcoin for a long time, but they have not stumbled onto this site yet. So some of them might talk some sense, if

you take the time to listen to them. A lot of people think forum activity/rank determine someone's status or level of knowledge and that is simply

not true. A lot of accounts are bought by newbies and you can see that when they post.  ;)

Well some people are using this forum to educate themselves about how bitcoin work
There are people who just waiting the opinion of someone and act based that
Eventually if someone have tried the taste of profit and loss it will make him know about how crypto world work

But in this kind of business here in bitcoin world, It is true that most often people like an easy way to earn bitcoin big. which is not realistic in the actual scenario. So educating ourselves into bitcoin is a good idea actually especially if the person is very open minded into bitcoin.

I think you are right but still there are many other reasons to came here . Because many types of information from different different places we can get at this single place .
And also every site that is officially better  needed to promote here because this is official place where big big nitcoiners can easily understand about it and take interest .
And also if any newbie that cannot invest a small penny of money then he can start earnings here by join the campaign .
So I think this is best place for information about btc and tarts earnings with zero investment .

Exactly true. This is a tremendous idea to understand the bitcoin and to know how does it works and what are the procedures related to the bitcoin through which bitcoin has to go through. If we were all well educated about the bitcoin then I guess segwit would have not been an issue of such a hot discussion nor would be the hard fork. The truth is that most of the people are unaware of the technological up gradations and procedures which will make bitcoin more powerful.

Totally agree with！
I have a lot of friends who invest in bitcoin
They just eat what other people's told them to do，Don't have your own thoughts, just ask

Instead of depending on other’s opinions and hanging around speculations and wasting their time, every person must have to be well known/well educated in respect of taking better and right decision. Unfortunately most of people are un-educated about bitcoin market value that’s why they cannot decide that what to do and still worried that what will happen in future.
To become clear, we must avoiding hanging around we must have to get education about bitcoin and it will be a right way for business.

Once you've removed the noise by putting on 'ignore' every poster who uses certain words like "newbie", "noob" or "shitcoin" in their posts (not a joke, I mean literally), you end up with an interesting balance of knowledgeable and non knowledgeable people. IMO it makes for generally good discussions and it also gives a picture of the bitcoin user community and that has value.

Edit: because I can never do it right the first time :\

Hardly can tell what order of principles one person has and what conduit holds over the analysis they make. The market is a very sophisticated thing and anyone can just play around, but many times, hanging around is just a waste of time... Rather educate yourself bit by bit.

How do you know, people may be educating themselves here in this forum and thats why it was created in the first place, not everyone is here to sell their  goods and services or join signature campaigns, I for one have learnt a lot from a lot of members in this forum.But its not everything that you see or hear here that may be true here.

Brother it will never collapses. You are having very sharp mind that's why you are saying that you will buy bitcoin from people if it is going down. But one thing it will never goes down and if it is about SegWit2x then after 1 August the price of bitcoin will be bounce back. So it is cheaper to sell your bitcoin in low price in these days.

Yes people are joining signature campaigns to earn bitcoins. But this is enough you may know as well as. Because if we are just joining campaign it would be just a single step of bitcoin to earn bitcoin we should need to invest that bitcoins in which we earned from signature campaign then we can do well in a future.

Agreed! Most people are seeking advices from older traders about what to do with their coins because they do not have sufficient knowledge about bitcoins. To be a successful crypto trader, one should have sound knowledge of mathematics, statistics, human psychology, trading etc. Bitcoin trading is not gambling at all where you can just rely on your luck. Bitcoin trading demands right decisions at right time to earn great profit in crypto trading.

I think that you have it backwards. I don't think people are hanging around waiting for "random newbie's" to give them advice....I think "random newbie's" are hanging around hoping to gather some valuable information from an experienced bitcoiner. I think that if more people would LISTEN to the more experienced users than TALK, they'd be more successful. The forums are a very valuable resource for those trying to gain experience in this space.

I agree. If someone is really well educated he wont even be affected on the hoax news and articles being spreadout in the future. It will definitely make them successful and confident in what they do. If you know well enough it wont be hard for you to decide for yourself as well.

I agree, well because internet is not always a reliable source anyway, its your obligation to search for supporting evidence everytime you encounter a statement claiming it is a fact. Learning is the best way to be productive and efficient in everything that we do whether if its about cryptocurrencies or some random trivial stuffs we have to be diligent not to be easily influenced by what we read.

I think that people do not care about what the newbies post. Some of their posts are just trolls. That is why they do not pay attention to them, and even if they answer, they are just doing a favor to other people or just being nice. Moreover, there are no more topics to talk about. That is why I think that these newbies are just making trivial posts in order to create something to talk about. I cannot blame them though.

yah well i think it's good to educate themselves about bitcoin so that they know the how to earn money here but it's not bad to hang around but you should know your limitation in hanging here in bitcoin because btc is not a playground that you can play with the newbie accounts here.

Well if that would be possible that everyone of us must educate ourselves we can avoid poverty. As popularly said education is the key to success specifically educating theirself about bitcoin. Since bitcoin really makes your life change.

Well if people starting educate themselves it's their rights. But come on man, to share knowledge about bitcoin or other crypto in generally and to help each other, educate each other that's kind of satisfaction. I thank to people who hanging here and share their experiences, their knowledges and also give you step by step to know better about bitcoin or other crypto. CMIIW :)

Frankly speaking I haven't seen any successful trader on this forum for my time here so maybe they are keeping their affairs hush-hush I  am not sure lol  ;D I wouldn't be seeking any investment advice here though