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Title: Is it over?
Post by: se150401317 on July 18, 2017, 02:56:06 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: sxafir on July 18, 2017, 02:59:58 PM
Yep just like ltc.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: wantjokull on July 18, 2017, 03:21:39 PM
Yeah it seems to go up now. I think this is happening because segwit has got more than 80% supporter according to the data shared on coindance website. As we all know segwit is traditional bitcoin and is backed up by everyone so the bitcoin has regained its value and it will start the upward motion once more. Off course altcoins are all related with bitcoin investment and they will ultimately start showing upward direction too.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: befrank on July 18, 2017, 03:22:42 PM
I share these positive feelings.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: niisarearning on July 19, 2017, 01:14:59 PM
its really speculative like other trading platform here big wales play the role its the hard truth ware like small fish not knowing what happening still seems like people researched about segwit and got confident about crypto again.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: asriloni on July 19, 2017, 02:56:39 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?
I was feeling if the price of the crypto will be pumping again in the future. I think the more people will be joining in the money games like crypto will make the price of the crypto increase in the future. The dump is not over now but the coin must get pump by the way.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: affandi on July 19, 2017, 03:45:22 PM
In my opinion, there is now a pause before there will be a new pump. And the pump will come after the problem disappears, then all the coins will occupy its position back even higher


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 19, 2017, 03:49:25 PM
It's over for now, the bull run will continue as long as a hardfork is out of the picture. In November or around there then it's time to go into some alt again to profit from the idiots selling so we can buy more cheap BTC on the dip.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: AuctusProject on July 19, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
I see something like a "crypto cycle" happening in times like this, where the imminence of a fork cause this kind of fear. People get afraid, prices go down, fear starts to fade, hodlers buy the dip, prices start to recover, it brings new people that never went trought those hard times before so the pump and FOMO beggings, prices to the moon, escalability is needed again, new fork imminence and everything starts again.

But the thing is, from the long term perspective, each cycle brings more people to the crypto world and it helps developing and improving the technology so maybe this cycle is over, maybe is not yet, so think long term and enjoy the ride =)


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: equator on July 19, 2017, 03:58:03 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?

This is always happening in the trading as it was expected but it went some more low, due to small traders selling on fear of market to go more low but the big traders started to buy back their sold bitcoins from 1800+ level but still we cannot say that bear movement is gone as still no picture is clear.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: elite3000 on July 19, 2017, 04:04:46 PM
There is no way to know. Still some 2 weeks until August, lots of things could happens and manipulation could take place too, so be prepared for everything


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 19, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
I see something like a "crypto cycle" happening in times like this, where the imminence of a fork cause this kind of fear. People get afraid, prices go down, fear starts to fade, hodlers buy the dip, prices start to recover, it brings new people that never went trought those hard times before so the pump and FOMO beggings, prices to the moon, escalability is needed again, new fork imminence and everything starts again.

But the thing is, from the long term perspective, each cycle brings more people to the crypto world and it helps developing and improving the technology so maybe this cycle is over, maybe is not yet, so think long term and enjoy the ride =)

I bought the Bitcoin XT dip, forkers got owned and I increased my BTC.
I bought the Bitcoin Classic dip, forkers got owned and I increased my BTC.
I bought the Bitcoin Unlimited dip, forkers got owned and I increased my BTC.
If you bought the segwit2x dip the other day, you would have increased your BTC.

You know the deal. Everytime some idiot comes up with their altcoin, buy the dip and the price will recover sooner or later.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: 25hashcoin on July 19, 2017, 04:21:50 PM
Yep just like ltc.

Ltc is different. Its a complete scam.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Open4lies on July 19, 2017, 04:46:03 PM
Yep just like ltc.

Ltc is different. Its a complete scam.
Why you say LTC is a complete scam? I'm a fan and holding a huge amount LTC very hate when you say that not have reason, can you tell me the reason make you say LTC is scam coin helps me?


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Hueristic on July 19, 2017, 04:48:13 PM
Can we call this TGFE?

the Great fiat exodus. :)


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 19, 2017, 05:13:22 PM
Yep just like ltc.

Ltc is different. Its a complete scam.
Why you say LTC is a complete scam? I'm a fan and holding a huge amount LTC very hate when you say that not have reason, can you tell me the reason make you say LTC is scam coin helps me?

LTC is not an scam compared to other altcoins. The question is what do you expect from LTC. I still think LTC is a good place to be for the time being, but if segwit locks in on bitcoin, then I don't really see the point of LTC anymore. LTC's hashrate is even more of a chink monopoly than BTC.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: jack1111 on July 19, 2017, 05:31:32 PM
I see something like a "crypto cycle" happening in times like this, where the imminence of a fork cause this kind of fear. People get afraid, prices go down, fear starts to fade, hodlers buy the dip, prices start to recover, it brings new people that never went trought those hard times before so the pump and FOMO beggings, prices to the moon, escalability is needed again, new fork imminence and everything starts again.

But the thing is, from the long term perspective, each cycle brings more people to the crypto world and it helps developing and improving the technology so maybe this cycle is over, maybe is not yet, so think long term and enjoy the ride =)

I bought the Bitcoin XT dip, forkers got owned and I increased my BTC.
I bought the Bitcoin Classic dip, forkers got owned and I increased my BTC.
I bought the Bitcoin Unlimited dip, forkers got owned and I increased my BTC.
If you bought the segwit2x dip the other day, you would have increased your BTC.

You know the deal. Everytime some idiot comes up with their altcoin, buy the dip and the price will recover sooner or later.
I agree, already experienced members know how to play it right, do not forget the role of the famous crypto news sites which spread fear sometimes, and optimism at other times.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: nicolas1979 on July 19, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?

Some people taking a good move with buy some coins, that makes price action up. I think their strategy says now is time to buy and keep believe the price will come up soon. They have different opinion to buy or sell what they got but is good because the price too low and this is the right time to collect some coin. If this moving keeps going until August, I doubt all altcoin will still go down. Good luck.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: The Catcher in the Rye on July 19, 2017, 06:10:34 PM
I am from the future. No, it's not over, everything is rising hard again :D


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: mrdunns on July 19, 2017, 06:11:38 PM
We will see in the next week or so.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: mobnepal on July 19, 2017, 06:20:28 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?
Panic over hard fork FUD seems over that have made crypto market healthy again but I think we will see another blood bath really soon before august.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: John Titor on July 19, 2017, 06:21:47 PM
It's over for now, the bull run will continue as long as a hardfork is out of the picture. In November or around there then it's time to go into some alt again to profit from the idiots selling so we can buy more cheap BTC on the dip.

Except it isn't over, and a hardfork is NOT out of the picture.  The people mining BTC are the same people mining LTC, and what happened there is that the acceptance rate for Segwit went up and down constantly, and that was accompanied by insane levels of market volatility.  Whether or not there will be a fork is actually irrelevant, the fact is there will be enough market uncertainty in the next 2 weeks to push down bitcoin to sub-$2000 levels yet again; it takes surprisingly little to send the market into full panic mode, and whales and miners will take advantage of that.

It will happen or I will eat my dick on live television (but not really)

Note: I am still bullish on BTC long term, just not for the next 2 weeks

I am from the future. No, it's not over, everything is rising hard again :D

That's my thing, get out of here!


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: rayk on July 19, 2017, 06:36:25 PM
Dump and pump are always in progress no stop.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: bumblebee24 on July 19, 2017, 06:41:08 PM
Dump and pump are always in progress no stop.

Buy low sell high, and keep riding along. Never know what it might turn into.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: findingthemoon on July 19, 2017, 06:46:32 PM
Dump and pump are always in progress no stop.

Well the current pump and dump is a little more extreme than the usual and periods of high volatility always take a while to quieten down. You are right though it never completely stops.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: CryptoGeneral on July 19, 2017, 07:10:35 PM
It is not over, but there is a pretty good chance that it will be over soon. If you are not feeling comfy split your investment. A few solid altcoins, bitcoin and fiat will do the trick.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: arpon11 on July 19, 2017, 07:13:32 PM
I think it is over and based on what I am reading on reddit there might not be split of bitcoin network! The best time to buy bitcoin is now before the price get to the moon. Many traders sold their coins out of panic and fear of what will happen on August 1 but there might not be split and the network is working fine on segwith.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: dreamsorcerer on July 19, 2017, 07:16:43 PM
It's not over. It's just started.
BTC is arrived in a moment a little sophisticated but the way is too long.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: stripykitteh on July 19, 2017, 07:18:54 PM
It's not over. It's just started.
BTC is arrived in a moment a little sophisticated but the way is too long.
The price for Bitcoin looks like it’s going up though the people that are in Altcoins are purchasing in right now since they noticed that the price of Bitcoin was going to go lower since the news of Segwit.
People that are in Altcoins and was holding during that dump might’ve already made their money back. The ones that were holding Ethereum made their money back for sure, they are likely to purchase more when the price of Eth gets lower.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: kryptqnick on July 19, 2017, 07:29:38 PM
I think it is over and based on what I am reading on reddit there might not be split of bitcoin network! The best time to buy bitcoin is now before the price get to the moon. Many traders sold their coins out of panic and fear of what will happen on August 1 but there might not be split and the network is working fine on segwith.
I think you are wrong in some ways, I think. Coins in red thing being over would mean that the market would be growing again. For that btc has to get Segwit successfully implemented. If btc goes Gard fork, however, this would mean that interests are split and so some people aim to pay for one thing and others for another which will result in huge price drop


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Seansky on July 19, 2017, 09:16:14 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?
It is still not over, things are just getting started after all, we are only 2 weeks away from the August 1 2017 fork that will happen so I expect insane movements downward in bitcoin price again in the next coming weeks. I also expect the same from altcoins that is basing on bitcoin but some might pump. For now watch the market and see what happens.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: chutchmcgillicutty on July 19, 2017, 09:27:29 PM
some kind of hard crash coming this wknd. got a feeling...


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Hueristic on July 19, 2017, 10:27:43 PM
some kind of hard crash coming this wknd. got a feeling...

sell sell sell!!!


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Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: CryptoPR on July 19, 2017, 10:31:01 PM
It is never over!


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: fancy2973 on July 19, 2017, 10:34:02 PM
Bitcoin will go higher regardless what happened in August 1. The altcoins are generally gambles, some may survive, some may not.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Speedie on July 19, 2017, 10:51:35 PM

You are at "Return To Normal".

https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch7en/conc7en/img/stages_bubble.png


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: alt213 on July 19, 2017, 11:10:04 PM
Yep dump seems over , bitcoin price is heading again to $2500 , i think bitcoin will hit new high price after segwit activation, and altcoins i did not expect big pump because most of altcoin whales are in vacation so just hold your coins.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: MicroGuy on July 19, 2017, 11:27:38 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?

In this business you need a steady hand and a long-term perspective. Measure the markets month-by-month not day-by-day.

Predicting daily trends should be left to only those directed by the hand of God.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: shams on July 19, 2017, 11:32:13 PM
No its not over it is because bitcoin segwit/hard fork is near and day by day more and more panic is growing in the market and because of that most of the traders are getting panic and selling their coins to not get effected from segwit or hard fork. I am sure once this all done market will start to grow again and it will grow more then last time.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: LodisMcguire on July 19, 2017, 11:55:09 PM
Looks like the red candle is still going after some green one yesterday
Is it because the issue of some ETH being hacked,or the continuation of panic selling before the segwit happen?
After reaching $2400 bitcoin go down to $2200 and continue to fall


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Silberman on July 20, 2017, 04:26:19 AM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?
For now it is over, but you should keep your attention on the markets, as we get closer to the date of August 1 I think things are going to become even more bizarre instead of having bad days we are going to get bad sections of the day, in the morning the market could crash and then in the afternoon things will return to normality, this is the kind of instability I expect to see in the next days.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Ahimoth on July 20, 2017, 05:41:12 AM
It's not over til' its over.
There will always be dumps and it will always be as this is a cryptocurrency that fluctuates every now and then. Hold coins and wait what will be the effect of activation. Let's all hope for a good outcome to this.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: AgatioX on July 20, 2017, 05:56:59 AM
It's not over til' its over.
There will always be dumps and it will always be as this is a cryptocurrency that fluctuates every now and then. Hold coins and wait what will be the effect of activation. Let's all hope for a good outcome to this.

I hope there wont be any atempt to dump everything by creating a fundamentaly bad background around cryptocurrency again.
Actually in the end everything will be OK.Its just some whales making waves all the time to make profits.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: rowenta01 on July 20, 2017, 06:35:44 AM

lol

What a ridiculous comparison ..

If you really think what you say, sell everything please!

Stop confusing ICO and other projects that use the blockchain to break through a sector of the economy.

And the monetary use of the blockchain as the Bitcoin, litecoin, and all other projects that have objective only monetary use. The future is brilliant for these projects!


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: dadonn on July 20, 2017, 07:29:32 AM

lol

What a ridiculous comparison ..

If you really think what you say, sell everything please!

Stop confusing ICO and other projects that use the blockchain to break through a sector of the economy.

And the monetary use of the blockchain as the Bitcoin, litecoin, and all other projects that have objective only monetary use. The future is brilliant for these projects!

Well according to that chart, then the institutions lose money as does the public while the smart money gets in early, goes on this big ride and in the end breaks even. The zero sum game.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: riskthebiscuit on July 20, 2017, 07:29:53 AM
I am not so convinced it is over. We are still nearly two weeks out from Aug 1st and I think there still may be more bad news to come yet. I could definitely be wrong but I would not rule that out at this point. I however do not think it could dip much further than now as a ton of $$$ has already left the market these past 2-3 weeks. So the end of the onslaught is near, but may not fully be over just yet IMO


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: JoMarrah Iarim Dan on July 20, 2017, 08:01:07 AM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?

I think no one can predict or answer that question. Why? Because no one controls or manage bitcoin. Maybe for now it continue all coins go to high values now then after several weeks it goes down again. We may not be complainant so we must be alert every time. It is also good to monitor the value of each of the coin just be sure.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 20, 2017, 11:38:28 AM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?

i think the dump is not over yet as bitcoin is not yet through 1st august and maybe we are see the dump again but i always think the dump will always come to make new floor. we can only hope that all coins will go to high values after the dump and will make new price. all we can do is trying to get survive in market and trying to get profit as much as we can.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 20, 2017, 12:25:38 PM
Bitcoin is shooting up now to the sky passing $2500 again and getting closer and close to another all time high. Looks like we are good to go for $3000+ this time with the scaling issue solved as BIP91 activates. Several top 10 alts on the red including ETH and LTC.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: budiartha on July 20, 2017, 12:55:41 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?

I think no one can predict or answer that question. Why? Because no one controls or manage bitcoin. Maybe for now it continue all coins go to high values now then after several weeks it goes down again. We may not be complainant so we must be alert every time. It is also good to monitor the value of each of the coin just be sure.

yes i agree with you, no one can predict with certainty whether the price will always rise or will go down, just wait and see what happen after segwit.
So this is not over yet  :)


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: hanlieuiypm9832 on July 20, 2017, 01:01:14 PM
In my opinion, there is now a pause before there will be a new pump. And the pump will come after the problem disappears, then all the coins will occupy its position back even higher

That is right. There will some day when the price will be kept in a small range. If the hard fork of the bitcoin is over and the result is positive, the price will pump a lot in my opinion.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: tamarindbleu on July 20, 2017, 01:04:52 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?
We will see that all coins will go to high value again after the hardfork. I think some investors pull back their investment in crypti currency because they are affradi for what could be the result of hardfork which cause dump in all coins. However as I believe that it can be advantage for all, they'll buy back again which would cause increasing the value of coins in crypto currency.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: monetkyn on July 20, 2017, 01:10:27 PM
it's only the start, man ;) ;)


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Tradegroup on July 20, 2017, 01:24:08 PM
It is over, and we will rise back!


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: ruclassic on July 20, 2017, 01:24:20 PM
No, It is not over. If any change will come than it will be good for future. Because of SegWit still 1 August BTC price will up and down but no worry about that. For long time it will be so good and Price of BTC also going to high in future and other altcoin price also rise again.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Morphling on July 20, 2017, 01:50:47 PM
no one can know what will happen tomorrow, but i think the dump is not over, there will be a deep fall before 1 August, and its that time to positioned


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: bitcoinmasterlord on July 20, 2017, 01:58:33 PM
no one can know what will happen tomorrow, but i think the dump is not over, there will be a deep fall before 1 August, and its that time to positioned
This is 100% right no one can predict what will happen tomorrow. But now the Bitcoin price is increasing as well as all altcoins price also following Bitcoin. But there is assurance that this price will keep on moving up. It may fall down anytime. Becasue of August 1st. If you do any transaction now, there is a possibility that your coins will be struck in the network so be careful.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: gomei on July 20, 2017, 02:06:30 PM

I think it is over now, because you can see the bitcoin pumps a lot today, about 10%, I think it means the hard fork problem is over and the result is positive.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Hueristic on July 20, 2017, 02:11:31 PM
BIP 91
269 blocks (80%) in the current 336-block signaling period are required for BIP 91 lock in.
Current Count: 209 / 336 blocks (80.7% so far)
77 blocks remaining in this signalling period.
BIP 91 is currently projected to lock in during this period.   


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Aetrader on July 20, 2017, 03:04:11 PM
I see all coins including bitcoin going back upwards, so is the dump over now? will we see all coins go to high values now?

Yup, it's over. All coins will now only go straight up forever. *sarcasim*



Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: neuralnet on July 20, 2017, 03:50:07 PM
This is fine with me, I took advantage of the dip.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Thrills on July 20, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
Its all over. Crypto closes tomorrow.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: CrypticGambit on July 20, 2017, 03:55:30 PM
Crypto is still young


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Simss on July 20, 2017, 04:03:06 PM
I think that will happen, more people join in crypto then the price will be higher  :D


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Thrills on July 20, 2017, 04:05:24 PM
I think that will happen, more people join in crypto then the price will be higher  :D

Flawless logic.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: jyotianand01 on July 20, 2017, 04:19:02 PM
now a days, crypto market also behaving like share market, when a positive news comes to the market, market start rising and when negative news comes, market follow that negative trend. Many rumors are running in the crypto market about btc and people reacting to every rumor with news trend ( negative/positive ). Everything will be cleared after 1st august and again, market start moving in its regular mode.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: bumblebee24 on July 20, 2017, 04:49:54 PM
now a days, crypto market also behaving like share market, when a positive news comes to the market, market start rising and when negative news comes, market follow that negative trend. Many rumors are running in the crypto market about btc and people reacting to every rumor with news trend ( negative/positive ). Everything will be cleared after 1st august and again, market start moving in its regular mode.


That's what happens when investors start to invest into crypto to turn profits. They can care less about long term success of coins as long as they make money per trade.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: asdalani on July 20, 2017, 11:17:23 PM
I think it is over and based on what I am reading on reddit there might not be split of bitcoin network! The best time to buy bitcoin is now before the price get to the moon. Many traders sold their coins out of panic and fear of what will happen on August 1 but there might not be split and the network is working fine on segwith.
I think you are wrong in some ways, I think. Coins in red thing being over would mean that the market would be growing again. For that btc has to get Segwit successfully implemented. If btc goes Gard fork, however, this would mean that interests are split and so some people aim to pay for one thing and others for another which will result in huge price drop
If the coin has the progress that will allow the project to get stronger than there shouldn’t be people selling the coin off to a point where the price loses around 20% of its value overnight. The people that sell their coins off at that price should just keep the coins until the use for that coin could be placed into something else. People are relying on Fiat too much so they get the short end of things.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: jamesclark on July 20, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
how can this be over?? it's just the start! many more years to go and rice of the bitcoin will go many folds.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Botnake on July 21, 2017, 12:58:01 AM
now a days, crypto market also behaving like share market, when a positive news comes to the market, market start rising and when negative news comes, market follow that negative trend. Many rumors are running in the crypto market about btc and people reacting to every rumor with news trend ( negative/positive ). Everything will be cleared after 1st august and again, market start moving in its regular mode.


That's what happens when investors start to invest into crypto to turn profits. They can care less about long term success of coins as long as they make money per trade.
That's normal in the market, the price are volatile so people who have a good amount of capital in trading can take advantage on it but
still holding for long term is still better. I believe those who trade actively are also holding a lot of different coins for the future.


Title: Re: Is it over?
Post by: Arasm on July 21, 2017, 09:54:23 AM
i think it is over, just compare the chart from the high of 2013/2014 with the recent chart - its almost the same. Approximately 35days after ath, there was another pump which did not make it to the previous ath  - now the same thing happened.
btc will settle at around 1200-1300$ just give it some time - hard to believe but the chart says that there will be a loooong bearish market afterwards.
I will buy when btc reaches 1500-1600$