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Following the tradition to announce the launch of a new altcoin in advance, and in continuation of my previous thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202869.0)...

...I'd like to announce the launch of Ripple++, which will happen soon.

For those who r asking themselves why they should jump to this bandwagon a small comparison below:

	__________Ripple++__________	__________	__________Ripple__________	____________________Note____________________
Transaction confirmation time:	Almost instant	=	Almost instant	-
Hosting expenses:	0 *	>	Unknown	* Within GAE free quotas
Availability of the service:	99.999% *	>	Unknown	* Hosted in Google Cloud
Security:	Thru obscurity	=	Thru obscurity	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity
User interface:	Very simple	>	Quite complicated	-
Distribution of coins:	Depends on computing power *	>	100% premine	* Like in Bitcoin
Is REAL money?:	No	=	Noone knows	-
Vulnerability to Sybil attack:	High	=	High *	* Ripple's protection is very doubtful (https://ripple.com/wiki/Consensus#Split_personalities)
Open-source:	Kinda *	=	Kinda *	* Will be published soon not very soon in 100 years
Risk of dump:	Very low	>	Very high *	* OpenCoin can dump all their coins if Ripple comes close to a collapse
Total rating:	10 / 10	>	5 / 10

Those who wish to run their own node could start learning how to host Java application in Google App Engine (https://appengine.google.com/).

Here is a prototype of the interface:

http://s21.postimg.org/x0sfa2kk7/ripplepp.png

If this is true this is gonna be so much fun.

Real fun will come later, when I publish the sources and everybody starts making their own ripples...

So this is basically just a test implementation? I can respect that.

Nipple Ripple

 ;) Watching closely....

Reserved

taking space

Nice. when will it be released ?

Reserved

Exciting. Considering the 'idea' behind Ripple is good, but completely ruined by the 100% premine scam and obvious pump and dump possibility of the developers/owners having 100 billion ripple at hand.

THIS

Everybody should make is own ripple and send trust only with that !

I've got a few PMs regarding Ripple++. I wish to state that I'm not a Ripple hater, if it really works then I will, likely, support it.

You can now trade ripples with BTC at therocktrading.com (http://therocktrading.com)

You buy Ripple for USD at www.bitstamp.net (http://www.bitstamp.net)

...and thats just sad.

Ripples going to love this....!!!

may make them hurry it all up a bit

Any better alternatives?

If Ripple++ depends on computing power like Bitcoin why is it still vulnerable to Sybil attack?

Mining needs computing power. Consensus uses other approach.

Please tell me this isn't just a parody thread and will actually come to fruition :D

It's not a parody thread.

Guys, I need ur help to test the interface on mobile phones.

If u r willing to help, go to https://ripplepp.appspot.com, please.
U r supposed to click [Login] and enter a secret phrase.
After u press [OK] the browser will generate RSA keys and send a request to the server.
I need to know how much time it takes to generate the keys (approximately) and if "0 XXX" appears in "Balance".

Thank you in advance.


EDIT: Don't launch minting, it's not implemented yet. :)

this is going to be fun! ahah

Mining will be done via web interface?

Yes. This project is for testing, no need to use ASICs.  ;)

any chance for cpu

A web browser uses CPU, so it's already for CPU.

How long will this roughly take, I candled it after about five minutes, when I started it I thought you wanted me to stop the seconds it takes  :P

It takes a couple of seconds on my PC.

Strange, I tried it two additional times with different phrases (thought I maybe had encountered a bug as I used a ü the first time).

CPU usage goes to 100%, browser becomes unresponsive and it takes forever.

Well, as you are probably using Linux we just blame it on Microsoft  :D

I use Windows 7. :)
What the browser was that?

Windows 7

Firefox 20.0.1

Thx, perhaps I'll add "Google Chrome" as a requirement, coz the issue is somewhere inside the code written by other guy.

Wonderful!


On my PC [Windows 7 64-bit] using the latest version of Google Chrome, it took about 5 seconds.
On my phone [Droid RAZR Maxx; Android version 4.1.2] it took about 2 minutes or so to generate the key (using Google Chrome again).

Thank you. 2 mins is too much. I think Ripple++ won't work on phones, so I won't develop mobile version.

Let's test hashing now - https://ripplepp.appspot.com.
My hashrate is 4.2 kh/s in average, but my PC is not very old. I'd like to know what hashrate others have, maybe I will change the difficulty algo.
PS: Coins r not minted yet, it's just dumb number crunching.

VMWare W7 1CPU Xeon E5620 2.4GHz - 3.1 Kh/s

PS. it is Chrome-only app?

my firefox dies painfully whenever I try to log in.

DOn't understand the login process, is it always going to be like this or what.

btw, 2.7kh, i3 4 cores on chrome

lol simple interface

2.6-3.4 kh/s chrome on win xp / Athlon 64 x2 5000+

Will you fix this please which is a inherit feature in Ripple?

http://i.minus.com/jbdWLPldfrGiSr.PNG

2.9-3.4 kh/s - PC is 3 years old now, working with an AMD Athlon II X4 635 2.9GHz [Quad Core].
3.0-3.5 kh/s - Work laptop (2 years old), a Dell Latitude E6520 running an Intel i5-2410M 2.30GHz [Dual Core].
Doesn't run on my phone after clicking 'Start'..just kinda sits there and nothing happens.

how do i know this is not some sort of scam to get data on my computer

Yea that's what i get too.

You can see the client side js.

is this a botnet to cpu mine YAC or RC or somehting

yeah but the cryptico.min.js is almost un readable

Yes.



Looks like FireFox is not supported.



If I see that R.I.P.ple's consensus doesn't work, I won't bother with fixes.



No, u can check JS-files and see that it uses SHA-3.



Look at https://github.com/wwwtyro/cryptico

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@Others:

Thank you for hashrate info. I think I'll leave difficulty unchanged.

NVidia Tegra3 Android 4.1 (Asus TF300TG)

Login procedure ~30 sec.
Speed ~ 0.7KH/s

Some tablets can run Ripple++, neat.

Mhh, I don't understand how it can be like Ripple -it's too simple. Can I send USD IOUs?

Do you mean it's like the XRP part of Ripple? If so, it's just an odd alt-coin. But that's not the main point of Ripple.

Anyway, I like there being competition... my 2.3Kh/s are at your service, for now  :D

U can't. I'm going to implement only XRP.

This is really fun.
1.7kh/s
no coins show up.

It's just hash testing. Minting not implemented yet.

4 Khahs intel i5 4core 2.5 ghz

I've added minting. Welcome to test it.

Click here (https://ripplepp.appspot.com/ripplepp?request=stats) to see general statistics of Ripple++. "totalSupply" shows how much XXX already exists.

965BE @4ghz doing 5.3-5.5 khs, but not minting?

2.5-3kh/s on i3, last chrome version, w7 64

Difficulty is 10'000'000. U have to mint ~30 minutes to get coins.

I see. It has been running for about 20min now

Minting is single-threaded. U can open 2+ tabs with Ripple++ page and mint in all of them.

Thx for advice. It works, Balance   2999971 XXX

Ah, interesting. Giving it a go now.

EDIT: Hmm..it's been 3 hours now and nothing has happened..soooo ???

Thank you, guys, for the help. I found a few minor bugs related to GAE database. I need some time to fix them.

Well, I spent a few days reading about Ripple consensus. Also, I talked to some guys regarding the issue. The resume is - Ripple consensus is bullshit. It's vulnerable to Sybil attack and there is no way to counteract it without centralization.

So, Ripple is a premined centralized coin. I won't waste my time trying to "fix" it. Period.