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First Proof :-
Token Market
The CEO of Token Market is Ransu Salovaara
https://s14.postimg.org/fmyphjb4x/wold.png

It is given as Micheal Cordy  


Confirmation :- https://tokenmarket.net/team



Second Proof :-
The social network profiles are new and made few days back
They don't have any online trail


Third Proof :-

Github code is all wrong
They don't know how to code
The github is a mess , anyone who knows coding know this . The files are not in proper manner and when you look into the files it is just one code commit .

https://github.com/ZiberLTD/windows

https://s24.postimg.org/8jj5p70ed/woelq.png

https://s2.postimg.org/gv5awkmqx/woelq.png

https://s12.postimg.org/m0b5m110d/woelq.png

Lookout for newbies account coming to support the coin .

This is a scam for sure

TOKENMARKET => TOKEN MARKETING!!!!  FIXED!  CEO is responsible for token distribution

it is nonsense

NOT tokenmarket.net  We sent them an application for accommodation. Are we completely stupid ??


This is the name of the POSITION
Michael Cordy = https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelcordy1/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ  Please see

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonwhitethego2consultant/  Jason White

http://microsip.org/




It's part of a group of our programmers, we just kept them secret. All codes are written for a long time!


You can write anything in the main topic.
You are distorting facts


misterbones and BrBoy We are waiting for an apology


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=300622;sa=showPosts    scam master?  This time you were wrong

Apologie ?? HAHAHAHAHAHAH

KISS MY ASS

YOU CODE IS ALSO WRONG

SCAMMERS FUCKERS

Thanks mate for giving warning to us. I thought that the project is legit because they have a lot of supporters in the thread and they have some pictures on their exhibit. Their free calls too made me attract on their project. But poor me, I didn't have any idea about coding. ::)

i think 3rd proof is a good proof ,all ICO must work hard on their project code . i see ZIBER update their code 15 days ago....

Thank you m8 !

I've been following this project.. I Wanted to invest even. How many scum we have yet to see!

Those are fake accounts

Of course its a SCAM!!!

1) The whole point of their project is not doable, but anyway

2) The address in London is WC1N 3AX, is randomly picked....OR NOT???
3) None of the 4 team members are on Linkedin
4) Their english is really poor
5) Github very poor

Stay away from Ziber...

Today i came across another new ICO, called Travelcoin.io = SCAM for almost the same reasons + 3 people who bought the tokens, 1 of them left a neutral feedback....

Be very very aware!!!!

Greetings everyone!

Here are many detective stories' fans and soap opera lovers. I want to tell you one detective soap opera story too...

From the very beginning our project Ziber refused from using Bounty as a way to draw more attention to the project. We decided that it will be better to create a really working product in advance and let all the rest speak for us. We have visited 2 conferences in London - CryptoFinancing 2017 and Fintechweek on July 13. At these events we were greeted with a warm welcome and understanding.
At the same time we started to send emails to various news websites and projects doing ICO listings, in order to tell people about us. Also we tried to contact tokenmarket.net many times, but we didn't get any response at all. (Please pay attention to this point)

Everything was going well until a massive harassment campaign began, targeting us. It started from this post:
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.msg20304037#msg20304037)
"Hi
Just to clarify: the cofounder and CEO of TokenMarket is Ransu Salovaara
Thank you"
 
And simultaneously with it there was made a screenshot of this message and an unknown person published it in the Telegram chat icocountdown, with the comment "Ziber Scam". After that just a little time has passed before several people started to attack us on the forum by writing negative reviews, they willing to tear me to pieces for a single inaccurate word.
I gave them a link to our presentation - they say it is fake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIhEiqCqyQ
I gave them a link to our programmers (known since 2014) - they say it is also fake. https://www.microsip.org/
I gave them a link to our github profile where we have published the source code recently (note that the code was under development in private since 2016!) - and they were not

even able to compile the fully working code! And they say again that it is fake! https://github.com/ZiberLTD

So, what is the "cause" of claims?

Our website introduces several Ziber Team members:
Michael Cordy, as a Co-Founder and CEO Tokenmarket
Mark Braun, as a Founder and CEO
Michael Kaufman, as a Co-Founder and CTO
Jason White, as a Co-Founder Operations and Business.

Michael Cordy has came up with the "CEO Tokenmarket" title by himself, it was meant as a "CEO of Token marketing" and has nothing to do with the tokenmarket.net.
However it became a reason for accusing us of fraud, stating that we have intentionally used the "Tokenmarket.net" name. (Kinda dodgy enterprise I'd say, will tell why below)

If Tokenmarket.net did not like this ambiguous title they could just send us the email and we would fix this misunderstanding immediately. Instead of it they started a targeted harassment campaign with the help of professional trolls, haters, hacked and newly registered accounts.
However I could not claim that all the haters that were against us are fake - it is very likely that normal users could succumb to the influence of such a manipulator as Tokenmarket.net.
 
Let's dig deeper - why would Tokenmarket.net attack us? What is the root cause?

And the reason is: https://www.dentcoin.com – the idea is similar to Ziber, but they sell p2p traffic instead of voice calls.
The start of their fundraising program accidentally coincided with the Ziber project launch. And they gathered only 21k ETH from the planned 180k. Many people seem to decide to wait and invest their money into a really working product with the real people behind it!
So I think that we have ruined their ICO. Because we have presented more versatile product which is already implemented and can be used right away, while they will have to spend time to implement their product. This caused the hatred and the desire of revenge. To drive us out from the market and destroy us. And they chose very dirty ways to do it.


What is the Tokenmarket.net?

LATO: Liquidity Asset Token  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2012623.msg20051508#msg20051508)
Exchange Union Coin: Bridging Digital Currency Exchanges Globally  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2028383.msg20204617#msg20204617)
Topic: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2036661.20)
And lots of others. Most of these projects don't have a working product! And their teams have never appeared anywhere in the public! It is most likely that Tokenmarket.net

creates all these projects itself, as even the CMS of many projects' websites is the same.
The only goal of these projects is to raise as much funds as possible!
Undoubtedly they take well-known projects and mask own nefarious purposes under them.
 
That's why they got so mad at us. Because we, the young team previously unknown to anyone here, suddenly appeared and ruined their ICO of Dentcoin. And we ruined it not by a heinous lies and intrigues but by presenting the quality product!

Who these trolls/manipulators are?

The major representative of the haters crowd is misterbones. Let's take a closer look at his messages:

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  rise
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445947.msg18330471#msg18330471)
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation: 0,004647 $
Price now: 0,077573 $


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  Humaniq
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1711764.msg18552426#msg18552426)
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,071905 $
Price now:0,163951 $

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  Cryptoforecast
  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1791709.msg18596414#msg18596414)
Price at the moment of misterbones' evaluation:0,020473 $
Price now:0,17814$

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His predictions come exactly the opposite - projects described as scam by misterbones in fact raise tenfold.


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Gleb Gamov

1. Gleb stole the identity of a deceased person, Bruno, and posts everywhere the photo with a paper. Later the information appears that he was arrested for driving without a

license, also he has confirmed that he was convicted of rape of 14 years old girl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg10987160#msg10987160)


2. Gleb has third account. This Gamov has scammed someone, and later got scammed himself as far as I understand.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg11266264#msg11266264)

3. a few more of his cases + his message about the racketeering by Bruno.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12639625#msg12639625)


4. again about the racketeering, and advices on how to counter this Gamov, i.e. act like he does, collect any information possible, make screenshots, etc.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12647767#msg12647767)


5. Leroy accused of scamming here. Someone paid to him and Gamov wrote that he is a scammer. Before that there were no single negative comment about Leroy - the claims were

completely made up.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.msg12698616#msg12698616)

6. about another Bruno's account. This man wrote that he is a paid troll, fouls up any project.
https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html (https://bitcoinscamphinnaeusgage.blogspot.de/2014/08/phinnaeus-gage-story-of-internet-troll.html)

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I just wanted to tell: think for yourself, don't make a decision under anyone's manipulations. Check everything up by yourself!

We are being attacked here, but I'm sure that we have created a great product and soon it will become as famous as Skype. Just let us some time!  

and exit scammed .

Could you show where exactly you found the mistake?
What mistakes does the compiler give you when trying to build a project?

only ziber? almost all new ico look like scam project to me  ;D ;D ;D, better to stay away from ico our day and buy when you see clear if is scam or not!

thank you for your warning.
i was thinking to invest this project.

you invest in ico selling project ?
how much youre invest ?, what is youre buy coin, why you all ico say scam, you have payment proof if youre realy invest

It was wrong format , any real developer would be able to point out.

This information is very useful to me, thanks, hopefully others can also see this information

I have been telling this to all the stupid’s from the day before the ICO. What about their bullshit news about the hack. Every figure they have given in there site is wrong it’s a scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2008297.460

Thanks for the info i was waiting for this ico and thought od investing in but as I'm not a technical kind of guy i don't check github and other stuffs thank you so much man you saved. And ziber stop trying to prove him wrong you have already been exposed and the affect of that can be clearly seen on your funds raised

So much pure scam projects nowadays that just fool and milk greedy investors. But there's even more semi-scam projects, which is even worse :(

Thanks man for alerting us... i almost fell for this scammers

https://scamstamp.com

Here's one contract for anti-scamming. It works by sending false ERC20 tokens named SCAM_STAMP to the address that you want to mark as scam.

To mark an address with 1 SCAM_STAMP token cost 1 finney, if the scammer wants to lose these tokens they have to pay 10 finney per token which goes to the address (addresses) that marked it as scam.

so let's say you've sent 2 ether to some address that scammed you, you can send 0.2 ether to MarkAsScam function of the contract https://etherscan.io/address/0x017a5d8d82afaa22bc29d75013d6ff3656e90851 which will send 200 SCAM_STAMP tokens to that address. In return, the scammer, if it wants to lose the tokens, they will have to pay 2 Ether (which will go to you) to lose those 200 SCAM_STAMP tokens (there's a 2% contract fee).

Also, before sending any ether to a contract, you could check this contract if that address was already marked as scam or not (that's free to do :) )


edit: rebranded into SCAM_STAMP , sounds better

Wow, I can't think of a scenario where people abuse this  ::) ::) ::)

it has been rebranded into SCAM_STAMP https://scamstamp.com - new contract, same rules
https://etherscan.io/address/0x017a5d8d82afaa22bc29d75013d6ff3656e90851

one address already marked as SCAM

https://scamstamp.com/ziberScamMarked.png

today i got ziber tokens for ICO from that adress https://etherscan.io/address/0x67f1488827146bf4dc9b1a0740b64299ea24ff00#tokentxns ? WTF they alive  :)

Also received tokens from this address.
0x67f1488827146Bf4dc9B1A0740B64299EA24Ff00
  ERC20-TOKEN  ZIBER 

I actually used ziber, when it was in the ICO stage and was free. It worked well – I called my friend in Russia, when he was in some place where there was no internet.

Thanks for this,you see this coming.Great post to warn the newbies like me i hope ICOs would be regulated.

It's always good that someone really checked a project this carefully and gave a warning! Thanks bro!