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Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 24, 2017, 09:24:05 AM
After many months i will restart working on my project YAY.
The only reason i edit this is because i love the acronym PoG@KL :)

Placeholder of link to my new thread


original text:
Welcome  8)

Work in progress... come back later or read this thread and reply.
Update 28 Jul 2017 : Beta Testing,Help please (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2043378.msg20469397#msg20469397)

Original Intro Posts archived right after.
Elias C.




Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 24, 2017, 02:02:28 PM
Archive : Original Intro

I know i am doing it wrong way , failed already some times.

There is a keno lottery running by itself already , and i am trying to setup a game
for me , my friends and all of you dear bitcointalk members.

Games are about imagination so relax and read my concept.
Every day some coins,tokens or whatever assets are born here in this forum,
asking your support ,my game will emulate a new virtual^2 Coin thing.

So we will pretend we have a new born coin , gather a playful community ,
and have some fun ...

Coin Name : DOGECENT - initial value equals to 0.01 DOGE
Premine  : zero
Max Coins  : 100 times more than DOGE coin /* To the Outer space WOW */
Mining algo : PoG@KL
Genesis block time : Block #1812361 of DOGE blockchain.
Many details will follow as long i get some response from you all.

LETS MINE this thing  ::) ::) ::)
-----------------------------------
In order to mine our virtual coin , you need a dedicated high technology miner device.
Here is the catch , you must buy one !! , muahah  (*evil laugh*)
Sell your house,wife and kids and buy some DOGE coins NOW !

Then you need to decide your 7 lucky numbers in the range 01..80
In order to buy Version 0.01 of our virtual miner you must send a valid
transaction like the following example.

my lucky numbers are 04,44,45,47,48,77,79
and i am willing to buy a single-ATPU , cost of device is 1500 DOGECENT / 15 DOGE coins + 5 DOGE transport <- wtf!

input my preferred DOGE address ---> 10.04444547 part_one receiving doge address
                                                     10.48777900 part_two receiving doge address

SPECIAL OFFER !!!
--------------------
Post here in this thread comments,questions,suggestions and after i sell my house first
i will send you a voucher miner for your support !

Disclaimer : No Warranties of any kind , It is a game for fun , Reputable escrow willing to help for free wanted

Archive : Second Part

Faq and various notes.

  I will try through this game to present and slowly with your help actually build a Fantasy world
with real economic assets within , lot of fun and some-real life uses of existing crypto-currencies.
My aim is to make a decentralized virtual world , a thing of Internet , AT (alien technology) !

  Usually BB (Before Block-chain) in order to make a program with p2p interaction there was a lot
of things to do , Gather User input , Process it , Produce results , Create and maintain Databases etc
  I strongly believe i can write just some public code , a reference library , and with some magic
the whole project i dreamed , it will start running , no servers , fully transparent , stable and fair.
  Here is the deal , post in this thread questions,comments,ideas suggestions and i will tell you more.

Disclaimer : I am not in rush , i have almost endless free time , no need to work and whatever i do
in this forum is for fun , however i am not neutral against the idea to make a bit of $  ;D

Thanks for reading so far.
Elias C.


Title: Re: PoG@KL , invest and play , Escrow needed
Post by: boranes on July 24, 2017, 02:10:15 PM
I suppose this thread is a joke, right?  ;D


Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 24, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Self quoting my old reply to keep discussion flow intact
thank you for posting.
it will go either joke or not , please if you like edit your post and
write your 7 lucky numbers in the range 01..80 (no duplicates).
We will see , have a nice day and thank you for being our Number #1  ;D

Title : ?
/Under construction/  ::)


Title: Re: PoG@KL , invest and play , Escrow needed
Post by: Slow death on July 25, 2017, 06:04:59 AM
 :o :o :o :o

Bitcointalk is becoming a hospice... joke

Being sincere I did not understand anything, Can you explain me one more time, this time in a simpler way?

maybe I can contribute more ideas ... who knows. Ha ha ha


Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 25, 2017, 08:27:59 AM
:o :o :o :o
Bitcointalk is becoming a hospice... joke
Being sincere I did not understand anything, Can you explain me one more time, this time in a simpler way?
maybe I can contribute more ideas ... who knows. Ha ha ha

At first WELCOME ! , i was waiting for you , to say the truth i posted in the other thread to lure YOU here !  8)

Quote
from Wikipedia : hospice care is a type of care and philosophy of care that focuses on the palliation of a chronically ill, terminally ill or seriously ill patient's pain and symptoms, and attending to their emotional and spiritual needs

For people like me using English as a 2nd (or 3rd) language is great when other people using rare English words.
Thank you and i think you have right , almost all bitcointalk members  are or they will be in need for such care.

You don't understand nothing you said , i can barely understand myself , right now morning hours i am busy but
later i will post again (for activity) and to clarify things for you and the legion of future newcomers.

As about contribution , you are HIRED ! , but management team members starting with ... negative wages  ::)

Have a nice day , good morning from Salonica Greece - Elias C.


Title: Re: PoG@KL , invest and play , Escrow needed
Post by: Slow death on July 25, 2017, 10:01:41 AM
:o :o :o :o
Bitcointalk is becoming a hospice... joke
Being sincere I did not understand anything, Can you explain me one more time, this time in a simpler way?
maybe I can contribute more ideas ... who knows. Ha ha ha

At first WELCOME ! , i was waiting for you , to say the truth i posted in the other thread to lure YOU here !  8)

Quote
from Wikipedia : hospice care is a type of care and philosophy of care that focuses on the palliation of a chronically ill, terminally ill or seriously ill patient's pain and symptoms, and attending to their emotional and spiritual needs

For people like me using English as a 2nd (or 3rd) language is great when other people using rare English words.
Thank you and i think you have right , almost all bitcointalk members  are or they will be in need for such care.

You don't understand nothing you said , i can barely understand myself , right now morning hours i am busy but
later i will post again (for activity) and to clarify things for you and the legion of future newcomers.

As about contribution , you are HIRED ! , but management team members starting with ... negative wages  ::)

Have a nice day , good morning from Salonica Greece - Elias C.



"hospício

Significado de Hospício

substantivo masculino
Manicômio; local, instituição ou estabelecimento que se dedica ao tratamento e à cura de pessoas com problemas mentais, oferecendo-lhes assistência especializada."

using the Google Translate:

"hospice

Male noun

Asylum; Place, institution or establishment dedicated to the treatment and cure of persons with mental health problems, offering them specialized assistance."

 ;D

I am not asking to pay me, but if you insist so much that I receive, you can send to my address that is in my profile

I'll wait to hear more about this idea. ;D


Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 25, 2017, 02:39:21 PM
snip.
I'll wait to hear more about this idea. ;D

PoG@KL : the GAME
----------------------
There is an empty world right now , the World of PoG@KL
My project is to fill this void with people , money and game fun.

Main actor in this game is a new-born (male baby .. Omg Its a BOY) Coin named DOGECENT.
The game tries to emulate the "REAL" crypto currency world !

What is the first any decent coin needs in order to exist ?
First of all it needs a distribution method , so in order to start we
need to define a Mining method , here it comes the acronym PoG@KL  ::)

PoG@KL : Proof of Gambling @ a keno lottery  ;D ;D ;D Fireworks
Let me explain how and why this Proof concept has enough properties to do the job right.

Keno lottery is a game you choose n lucky numbers out of 80 / then they draw 20 winning numbers.
Based on Payout Table winners are decided , blah blah...

It is a game of chance , tell me if i am wrong but other mining methods like PoW are lotteries too.
Since we try to make a game , at least we will not need to buy 40 High-end GPUs later !

All decent Proof of <whatever> can regulate the difficulty as time pass and the payouts/block
Our superior PoG@KL can regulate payouts/block changing the Payout Table

We defined a mining method , lets see how we can manufacture a miner for this.
We need a stable,consistent and fair random source in order to produce Keno draws 24/7.
I will not reveal yet where i found the best available source for free , but in some point
i will publish a few lines public python script capable to output all draws REAL-TIME
So the only thing we need is to Post our lucky numbers

I will continue later , i am running to a basketball court , laterZ  ;D


Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 26, 2017, 08:39:24 AM
APPENDIX 1

Payout Table,Draw schedule and documentation draft (under construction)

A.Payout Table
Matches Prize    Combinations  ---Probability---  Frequency  -------Variance------             Return
   0        0     386,206,920  0.121574251953999       8.23      0.121800060303055  0.000000000000000
   1        0   1,001,277,200  0.315192505065923       3.17      0.315777934119031  0.000000000000000
   2        0   1,037,687,280  0.326654050704684       3.06      0.327260768086995  0.000000000000000
   3        1     555,903,900  0.174993241448938       5.71      0.000000150783917  0.174993241448938
   4        3     165,795,900  0.052190966747929      19.16      0.208570126048391  0.156572900243786
   5       20      27,442,080  0.008638504841036     115.76      3.118195543413558  0.172770096820730
   6      240       2,325,600  0.000732076681444   1,365.98     41.816627294962352  0.175698403546505
   7    13150          77,520  0.000024402556048  40,979.31  4,219.108639714208948  0.320893612032853
Totals          3,176,716,400  1.000000000000000       4.23  4,265.016871591926247  1.000928254092811

Many Thanks to https://wizardofodds.com/games/keno/calculator/


B.Draw schedule

Every new block of DOGE coin blockchain is a draw , averaging 1 per minute , aprox 1450 per day.
However there will be no conflicts when new miners (accounts) come to the system , since they
register on the DOGE chain too, So new miners or live players are eligible for prizes starting from
the SAME DOGE block containing their registration.

C.Documentation and comments

The full game will be able to support mining and live betting under strict predefined rules , transparency
and consistency without dedicated random generator , Side chaining the DOGE coin blockchain is one of
my many evil tricks in order to achieve decentralization and provably fair gaming environment.

Some smart people may read this and start their clone , but here is a simple warning from old ME ...
Even if it is a game , for me is a hobby project to keep my hyper active mind busy for 4 decades so far.
I feel a bit ahead , there are many obstacles in order to create something new and innovating.
Really smart people have a better option , come and be part of this project , have creative fun with me.

Update UTC 10:40 AM
As you can see payout table defines House edge slightly negative practically zero in the long run.
The miner part of this game need not a House edge , since payments are in DOGECENT .
In the Equity Pool of DOGECENT real DOGE coins will back part of real world DOGECENT equity.
However one of future income for game's economy will be live betting , the only difference will
be when a player hits all 7 Numbers , A lower than 13,150 X multiplier will be used or a simple
scheme of Progressive Jackpot , Still transparent and Hard coded on the DOGE chain.



Please don't quote full pages like this one , lets keep this thread readable for all


Title: Re: PoG@KL , invest and play , Escrow needed
Post by: Slow death on July 27, 2017, 02:31:49 PM
From what I see seems to be a good idea, have you made the website? I also think that you should delete everything you wrote so as not to allow others to copy your project

When you have the project completed you can come and show the complete project here in the forum


Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 27, 2017, 03:31:58 PM
From what I see seems to be a good idea, have you made the website? I also think that you should delete everything you wrote so as not to allow others to copy your project

When you have the project completed you can come and show the complete project here in the forum

Thank you once again for your kind comments.

Decentralized
Decentralized
Decentralized  ::)

.snip
  I will try through this game to present and slowly with your help actually build a Fantasy world
with real economic assets within , lot of fun and some-real life uses of existing crypto-currencies.
My aim is to make a decentralized virtual world , a thing of Internet , AT (alien technology) !

  Usually BB (Before Block-chain) in order to make a program with p2p interaction there was a lot
of things to do , Gather User input , Process it , Produce results , Create and maintain Databases etc
  I strongly believe i can write just some public code , a reference library , and with some magic
the whole project i dreamed , it will start running , no servers , fully transparent , stable and fair.
  Here is the deal , post in this thread questions,comments,ideas suggestions and i will tell you more.
.snip

I made a deal with myself , the whole thing will need no website at all, just a watcher client.
Finished project is just an open source well documented python library and the main game client.
Anyone will be able to expand or build useful websites on top of it.

Even if this is the first sign i got Alzheimer , stay tuned , reply something , i promise
it will be interesting and partly playable soon. Even if i fail later , trip is what it matters  8)

Elias C.


Title: PoG@KL , under construction
Post by: eli113 on July 29, 2017, 02:33:54 PM
Beta Testing. (Module : Register a new account)

Help me for free a little if you can.

Create a new DOGE address and keep your private key safe.
Post your address here and your 7 lucky numbers with range 01..80 , in ascending order , no duplicates.

Example
Code:
DOGE address       : DRPxsurxs9i7MLmvCFWxBJUBNzKXKe9CFS
My Lucky numbers   : 02 04 05 30 40 47 72
Comment            : optional , i love you all , good luck OP , blah blah

Thank you all in advance and have a nice day/life always
Elias.C