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Almost everyone making online transactions thinks that using bitcoins would be a good way to stay anonymous. But the truth is bitcoin transactions are not really anonymous at all. All transactions are recorded and can be seen publicly through the blockchain. When you use your bitcoin to pay for goods and services online, you will need to provide some private information in some cases. This means that your transactions can be traced by a third party to find information. In order to avoid this from happening, bitcoin mixers provide services where your bitcoins are mixed with others to make it harder to be traced back from the original owner.

Do you think that it is a must for everyone to use a bitcoin mixer? Why and for what purposes?

I personally don't think so. I use bitcoin to pay for some various online services like proxies/VPSs, etc but I don't use mixers. Why? So what if they can track my funds on a certain wallet. I don't put all my bitcoins on one wallet, for my funds to be more organized and also to provide a layer of anonymity.

But yea, if you're a bit paranoid and or you want an extra layer of anonymity, then go ahead. Feel free to use mixers.

That hardly protects your privacy. Bitcoin mixers are a must especially if you deal with sensitive and often illegal activities online. But for your general Bitcoin usage, it is not really needed.

But if somebody knows our bitcoin address, then he can watch us as long as we use the same wallet. This is really bothering for me. I couldn' find a solution rather than btc mixer.

Well it is really in a users preference, some do not care about mixer some would make it a big deal depending on hiw much they transacting. Because for me i do not mind for this moment as i have yet  make transactions bigger than .1 btc. Because they me publicized but i think it is untouchable and if were to become hackable there would have bewn a big issue on the security of blockchain.

a bitcoin mixer is not the only way of mixing your coins and it is not even the best way of doing it. there are many different methods you can use to mix coins and each give you a different level of privacy.
in the end it will all come down to what you want out of this privacy. some people want to keep their affairs private. like for example you posted your bitcoin address on the forum but don't want anyone knowing how much bitcoin in total you own, or where you spend them.
but for some others they want to hide their illegal activities. and that is the tricky part.

i can't say it is a must or not but it is certainly good to have good services around.

Bitcoin mixer is an anonymous service, that confuses the trails of Bitcoin transactions.
Most of the bitcoin tumblers use the following technology: the client's funds are divided into smaller parts. These parts are mixed at random with similar parts of other clients. As a result, the client receives absolutely new coins.
Because of that, it became the cause for the bitcoin to be split on August 1st

What is the best way of mixing coins, if you don't mind me asking?

If you are concerned about privacy, one of the first steps is to avoid spend-linking your addresses. It can be done by carefully selecting addresses for your incoming and outcoming transactions, and even having multiple wallets.

Here's an example - let's imagine you want to make a deposit in a casino, but gambling is banned in your country, so you need to prevent others from linking your addresses to your identity. If you have used exchange to buy Bitcoins, you can't send those coins directly to your casino deposit address, because casino addresses are very well knows, so exchange operator will know both your identity and the fact that you have used illegal gambling services, and can easily reveal this information to the police. But if you have coins that aren't linked to your person, like for example your payment for a signature campaign, you could send them to your casino account directly and stay anonymous, as long as you don't spend-link them with addresses that can be traced to you. So, in my example, if you will use coins from your signature campaign address and exchange address to pay to some address (no matter what it is), you will reveal the fact that you have deposited to a casino, even though it wasn't a direct transaction from your exchange account. This also means that you can potentially spend-link your mixed coins with addresses that are linked to your identity, effectively voiding your mixing. So plan your transactions carefully if privacy is a real concern to you.

This site - https://www.walletexplorer.com - allows you to check for connections between addresses and it also know what addresses belong to some services, like popular exchanges or casinos.

There is a need to avail of the Bitcoin Mixer service if one is looking for more privacy and anonymity that the usual Bitcoin transaction may fail to provide. There are people who are using Bitcoin Mixer and they have their own reasons why they got the service. Avoiding getting tracked can be the main issue and that can be linked to total privacy. Of course, we might linked the use of mixers to illegal transactions but this is not all true in all cases.

Yes, Bitcoin mixers are a must in the crypto market. Without them, Bitcoin would not be where it is today as it was used mostly for illegal transactions in the early days. These users needed a way to launder their coins to avoid being traced. Do not mix your own coins manually... it takes way too long and isn't as reliable as a professional mixing service.

Now, not all mixing is illegal. In fact, it is perfectly reasonable to want to mix your coins for a variety of reasons. I recommend ChipMixer as they are 100% FREE as opposed to the others who charge commissions.

If the Blockchain lack protection features to protect your financial privacy, then you must use some third party service to fill that gap. The mixer services just break the link in the chain for you and you can strengthen your pseudo-anonymity with tools like this.

You still have the choice not to use them, but then you have to deal with the risks. < getting targeted by hackers & thieves > I will rather use them to increase my security and anonymity.

i can't see the reason of a mixer, i never used, one, it's better to use multiple wallet if you want more privacy, which is what i'm doing, besides a mixer is not 100% anonymous, because the one running it can still track you

and also what make the transactions areally anonymous, is not if it can traced back but if it is linked with your real name, if they don't know my real identity who care if they can trace all my transactions back?

I don't think that it is must because using Bitcoin in the normal way is enough to stay anonymous from others (other than the party which is involved in the transaction). If we are using it for legal purpose then there is no need to use Bitcoin mixer. Yes, if you want to take extra precaution for your transaction (for journalists etc) then they should go with Bitcoin mixer because they are the ones who are mostly under the radar of the government.

Me too. I don't used mixing services to hide my identity like depositing to a gambling site. Better option is like what Amph said, used multiple wallet instead. But we have to remember that bitcoin is psuedo anonymous. So even if we used mixing services, they still know were the money came from because they have their logs as proof. So for me, a mixing services is not a must, as long as you are not doing any dark web or dark market transactions you should be fine.

Well, I don't think that using a mixer would be required, since regular wallets that have multiple addresses are pretty safe and will make you hard to track, so there is really no need for it unless:

1. You suddenly received a bunch of funds, and you need to cover your tracks for the people who are chasing you.

2. You want to do something illegal and cover your tracks.

No need really.

If someone wanna be anonymous transaction in bitcoins, they must use bitcoins mixing services (i recomended to use [banned mixer] they have the bitcoins in reserve and it can be trusted in experience) but if the people doesn't wanna be anonymous in transaction of bitcoins, the bitcoins mixing services is no needed.

To straighten out the question, we could ask "Is privacy a must"?  And ultimately, that boils down to a matter of preference.  Privacy is a big deal for some people and not even remotely a concern for others.  If privacy is important to you, then yes, use mixing services, learn how coin taint works, use a new address for each payment you receive, make sure your wallet software utilises change addresses (not all do) and a few other steps you can take to limit traceability.  If you don't care about privacy, however, you won't need to do any of that.

When we use bitcoin for purposes that do not violate the law, it is not necessary to use bitcoin mixer. But when we use it for something that potentially to cause problems later on, gambling as an example, then bitcoin mixer is a must. As we know, gambling isn't a legal thing in many countries.

Actually bit mixer services are used by those persons who are totally want to be anonymous and make bulk transaction .
And there are few people who want remain always annonymous due to some other reasons ( don't want prefer to show anyone ) .
But overall I don't think that there will be any use of the tracking because here in the current time many numbers of the wallets are available whose wallet adresses kept changes every hours and every transaction .So there is not much use of bit mixer ( but still some people needed because of thier business security and privacy ) .

wouldn't trading you bitcoin for altcoins a few times be better then any  mixer ?Alot then times you be getting dirtier coins then the ones your trying to mix on then services  ;D

   This is one of the most interesting comments in this thread. Your comment explained why bitcoin mixers are must in bitcoin market, and maybe its a bit stretch to connect bitcoin success with bitcoin mixers,
but I understand the point behind that. Now we are in different times I hope.
   I like to keep myself from everything illegal, except traffic tickets I never done anything wrong. I would not dare to share my opinion in this thread cause I never used bitcoin mixer, but thread headline is
is bitcoin mixer a must? I do not think that bitcoin mixers is something that we need to do, why would I need to do that? If I am honest, I earn with my effort and knowledge I will not have anything to hide.


   Research before you comment, there is similar threads about this matter and in most of them you can find that its too expensive to do this in the way you suggest it. You need to pay a lot of fees, and if amount is really
big you have some limits, so you can not do that instantly.

It really depends on you. If you want an extra use of security then you can avail on this type of service. I personally don't use mixers since my transactions are limited and doesn't really require it.

Depends if you need more anonymity than Bitcoin can offer. I use paper wallets for every transaction which makes mine harder to be tracked. Remember that you can see if an address is owned by a wallet and if you have a thousand addresses in one wallet, you can still be found out to be owning them. (Talking about Blockchain.info, for instance)

When you use a regular wallet, the wallet will handle the addresses for you.  This does not mean that your transactions are 100% private.

Your wallet sends from multiple addresses.  When you send larger amounts of coins, like I occasionally have done, you are sending from several of your addresses at the same time.  And even if you use two different wallets to separate your identities, you are not private.  If you send to an exchange like Poloniex, to that deposit address from two places and then you withdraw to your own wallet, those two wallets are then linked together.

People are very naive about Bitcoin mixers in that they assume they are private anyway.  Governments, and often even normal individuals, have extremely good blockchain analysis tools.

If you want privacy, you either need to be competent in handling your addresses yourself, or if you want it to be easy then you use a mixer.

Mixers are not for everyone but they're not just for criminals.  If you hold a large amount, it's also to avoid criminals.

I've never used a mixer, I don't find it useful.
If I don't reuse (much) the addresses I should be safe. If I want to hide anything I use anonymous currencies - in my case Monero - but actually I have nothing to hide.
I don't see why I should rely on an imperfect (and costly) solution like a mixer.

Not really if your transactions is a legal transactions then you don't need to used mixer, unless you are doing big transactions and you feel more secure to stay hidden so the hacker is not targeting yourself then you can used the mixer, if you are just used it for daily transaction and it is still a small transactions you don't need the mixer

No. Its not a must to use a mixer for daily to daily transactions but if you want to be anonymous and your transaction wants to be hidden for reason e.g. buying drugs in deepweb or senstive things, use mixer to hide your tracks but there are other ways to anonymous without paying a mixer service.

Not every one needs a bitcoin mixer.Only people who have huge sum of bitcoins and do higher value transactions fear of their security as any one could easily trace their transactions and also if they want to avoid paying huge amounts of taxes to governments.they use such services to mix their bitcoins to avoid being traced out.

That is the reason why we have HD wallets. Bitcoin addresses should not be used more than once if you want some protection on your privacy. But you really want to make sure, yes use a mixer or use an anonymous coin like Monero.

well mixer serve its purpose when we don't want to risk our own wallet address as we knew that there's really still some risk from the eyes of
hackers and mixer are the best ways  to avoid them to notice our big transactions if we are doing it from time to time.

I think it should be done by everyone. Because your data are private and belong to you and to you only.
It's a measure of security to your data and a great deal for your privacy, so what's against it? It's fairly simple to mix coins, so go for it!

There was some news earlier this year that mixers are now useless (https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetmarketsOZ/comments/5cb6w4/blockchain_analysis_and_antimoney_laundering/) as the chainanalysis companies can see past them. So don't waste your time and bitcoin with them. If you need to anonymize bitcoin you should use an altcoin with an opaque blockchain.

But who are running the mixers? Can they be trusted? What if it was the hackers themselves who are running the mixers? Buyers and sellers of the dark markers should also be careful in trusting them because the people who are running them might be the government enforcers.

If I put my freedom at risk, I will not use a mixer.

A bitcoin mixer becomes necessary only when you have lots of bitcoins wit you and you don't want to be traced by any one to avoid threats.Also,it is needed if you are sending huge amounts of bitcoins and you don't want your transactions to be traced by governments to avoid being taxed.

Its not a must since not everyone needs it if its just a simple transaction where you just transfer coins from one address to another
Its a choice, since there are other ways to clean your coins like you can transfer your coins to exchangers but expect more fees than the fees mixers are charging you.
Its an option to those who live in a country where a local exchanger does not allow deposits coming from known HYIPs and Gambling sites.
I have some friends of mine and their account was canceled because they received BTCs from HYIPs and gambling sites.

I think not everyone should use a bitcoin mixer service. It depends on the person if he wants to make their bitcoin do not want to be known to others or personal reasons. Maybe some of those who use bitcoin mixers are criminals who do not want to make the bitcoin they stole is unknown where the address he sent.

Bitcoin is pseudonymous. All transactions are permanently stored on blockchain and visible to everyone. It is possible to identify a person through their transaction history and this is where bitcoin mixers are useful, complete anonymity.

Now without any ulterior motive people use mixers to protect their anonymity. But mixers also serve illegal purposes like financial crimes including tax evasion, money laundering, fraud and then darknet crimes. Stolen bitcoins, ransomware, hackers use mixers to get rid of tainted coins.

And even using mixers isn't risk free, you have no idea who are behind centralized mixers, do they keep logs? If being anonymous is the purpose then it can be done even without mixers and if other purposes are involved then I think you need mixers.

I agree why would you use bitcoin mixer when you are only doing simple transactions. Bitcoin mixing is the process of using a third party service to break the connection between a Bitcoin address sending coins and the address(s) they are sent to. Bitcoin mixer is only used by people who doesn’t want the entire world to know where they send and store their BTC, or from where they receive it. For some people bitcoin mixer is a necessity, people who work in Darknet Markets in particular. People who only do simple transactions don't need it however, if you feel unsafe about your transactions you are free to use bitcoin mixer.

yes that is right that it is not must but we use it only to remain as anonymous. in fact it mix the addresses and then it become difficult for people to find out that from which wallet the amount has be sent and received.

i've never used a mixer or felt the need to use one.

i'm not bothered about disguising my coin movements, but if i did want to break the link i'd stick it in an exchange and pull it out again. that might not be enough. i don't really care.

Not really a necessity since you can do a simple mix by yourself. Yes, they have far more complicated methods of mixing your coins but you need to pay them 1% or 2% of the total amount you'll mix which is not good plus the fees when you send them the coins. You can do a simple mix by sending your coins to an exchange then move it to a new address that you own. That is way more economical and faster IMO.

I really don't think if I need a new address  or wallet which is bitcoin mixer.  Honestly, I am satisfied with the old bitcoin because it keeps my  transactions private, especially when dealing with large or small amounts and anonymity.  Can you please tell me what are the benefits of this bitcoin mixer?

Bitcoin mixing isn't a must in my opinion.

If you are conducting trades i.e buying and selling on the deep web, you might as well mix your coins if you feel that security is a concern.

If you're using Bitcoin to trade around legal stuff, mixing might not be necessary unless you're dealing in a very high volume of Bitcoin and then again, mixing becomes necessary.

Mixer will have your information, usually these services are very shady with unknown operators.

Privacy has to come from the technology itself, not a third party service, miners are blocking bitcoin's upgrade but eventually we will win and progress can happen again and we can have privacy implemented as a core feature.

Bro, bitcoin mixers work is not belongs to wallet provider side. If you wish to mix the huge number of bitcoins to split it into multiple address, in that case you can bitcoin mixers. Already Bitmixer has close the service few days before. Still some of the sites like Chipmixer and cryptomixer are doing the mixing service.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, exchanges will have all the details regarding you. Local exchanges will not allow deposit/withdrawal without your authenticity. So if you transact in a higher volume then you need Mixers. Bitmixer was one of the trusted one and they closed because of some pressure. It is not must but may be used if necessary.

Using a service like ChipMixer https://chipmixer.com/ As you use their resources, technology. They do all the work for you. You can read their FAQ to see how exactly they work behind the scene. Pretty easy to understand and to use. After Bitmixer closing the shop, ChipMixer is the new flower. Others may suggest to you, to spend your coins to an exchange platform and then send it to a new wallet, but it can create a fingerprint in the long run I guess. Better safe than sorry, better to use a pro service

Anonymity provided by bitcoin is fine as it and if you are buying your coins with cash(in person), I believe it provides sufficient anonymity. The problem starts when you buy them online with a credit card or on exchanges with your ID details. Since the addresses can be tracked it will come back to you somehow.

I don't know how well mixers work, you place your life at their mercy. If you are going to do some illegal stuff, I advice you to use a totally anonymous crypto.

Using bitcoin mixers depends on a person on how much they care for their anonymity. There are people that even knowing it's quite difficult and will takes lots of time to search for traces on linked address still will use a mixer. There are also people that needs anonymity even with just a simple buying of cigarette online via bitcoin payment (just a sarcastic example).

A simple question; "I want to hide my transaction but Im using exchange on which I provide verification" , then use bitcoin mixer.  Another one; "Im sure it's difficult to trace my identity. I don't need any mixer then".

We suppose the question, raised in this thread, have not lost relevance to this day. Law enforcement agencies (in case they have any reason to suspect anybody of illegal activities), researchers engaged in the analysis of blockchain, cyber criminals and several other categories of people may be interested in a detailed study of the cryptocurrency activities of any person. Only you can decide whether you need any protection from such attacks on your privacy or not. A bitcoin mixer BestMixer.IO is able to anonymise your coins completely. But first you need to pay attention to elementary notions to feel secure in the Internet. You can find more information about it in the Wiki section on the website https://bestmixer.io/en/wiki.