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It seems Btc-e hacked and hackers erasing traces.
here is a proof : https://blockchain.info/address/18f1yugoAJuXcHAbsuRVLQC9TezJ6iVRLp

its really interesting that meanwhile bitmixer announced that they shut off.

Total of 66k BTC stolen.
will see btc price will crash soon.

proof!! this is not proof. this is a random bitcoin address that you found with a large amount of bitcoin in it and that large amount has been moved. i can show you at least 10 other similar addresses moving similar amounts the similar ways.

and neither google nor walletexplorer.com show any indication that this belongs to btc-e.

if you have any real proof share it with us. otherwise this is a random guess and close to FUD.

edit:
here is who that address is linked to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150803.msg8988815#msg8988815
nice FUD bro... and good luck shorting bitcoin ;)

If this information was real the bitcoin price would have crashed to 1500 USD pretty fast.
Right now the price is 2479 USD and nobody announced that btc-e is hacked.
Yes,i know that Bitmixer is down,but this doesn`t have anything related to Btc-e.
Try to provide a more genuine proof,OP.

What is happening to BTCe and why would anyone think that they are hacked? All I got from their Twitter account is they are having an unscheduled maintenance. If they were hacked they would have told everyone already. There is no use hiding it.

But the "maintenance" is taking too long and there are people asking for an explanation. An exit scam is more possible if they do not come back anymore.

This is speculation thread and these are my speculations.
Btc-e is offline more then 18 hours. and there are huge wallet transactions.
Remember Mtgox please. And they start to dump it similar to MTgox history.
Wait and see the btc price action.
btc-e down and same time bitmixer down. what you will think?
i am not sherlock but these are my stupid theory :)

no this is not speculation, this is "guess" based on imagination. i have already linked above who those coins belong to. they have nothing to do with btc-e yet you insist on it.

resyncing your node and going through all the security measures and checking everything to see if you are not leaking anything sensitive is going to take a long time. it is not a 1 hour job.

there is about 8-9 million bitcoins moving around in transactions every single day.

bitmixer stopped their operation about a week ago.
btc-e went down for maintenance less than 24 hours ago!

yes ;)
but in all seriousness even if btc-e is hacked, you are trying so hard to relate unrelated stuff to this. your "facts" that you are using for your "theory" are ridiculous at best...

So you are saying Bitmixer closed a highly profitable business, because they were part of the heist/hack? Why would you close a highly profitable business that generates income daily, to pull of a 66k bitcoin heist? At some time Bitmixer.io had a pool of over 2000 coins in circulation to mix coins for daily profits.

The owner of Bitmixer.io closed his site, because he acknowledge that his site might be used for illegal activities too and this bothered him. Will Cellphone companies close their doors, because people use Cellphones for crime? Nope!

The internet is used for criminal activities daily and nobody is shutting it down. Why? The reason is simple, the legal use of the internet, far outweigh the illegal activities that are done with it. ^smile^

At least I'm glad that you realize that your stupid theory is just a random bit of gibberish. You just try to link one event with another event for trolling purposes. If the people behind BTC-E would pull off an inside theft, they would have gone a whole different way (i.e. a non obvious way). It doesn't even make sense to run off with an x amount of coins, while these days are the most profitable days for basically ANY exchange in terms of fee income. They were easily making $200K worth of fee income, per day! What idiot would choose to run off?

I hope it's not true and BTC-e comes back online soon.
Always been my preferred place to check prices/ratios with the sometimes entertaining trollbox clowns.

How many multi-million dollar companies have their servers in a place where their host has unscheduled maintenance?

That shit should be on triple redundancy systems with any maintenance requiring at least 24 hour advanced notice of any downtime.

Hopefully BTC-e is getting ready for segwit activation (a probable reason for offline mode) and its traders too. They are all moving bitcoins into new wallets for their own reasons. I do not think a person will sell all his 66k bitcoins at once. I believe there will be no more incidents like what we experienced with mtgox. Now a days lot of exchanges hence dominance and significance of one single exchange is literally got erased some long time back itself.

I have a significant amount of NMC on BTC-e. I haven't seen a lot of transactions in the last 24 hours that would indicate that their NMC wallet was hacked.

Though I've been trying to get access to my account for the past month but they won't let me log in until I'm verified (I did not log in for over a year).

As per BTC-e, they are doing a unplanned maintenance. Its almost 24 hours since they reported this news. Probably we need to wait a little longer and not spread FUD that will cause panic to members who have funds in BTC-e.

https://twitter.com/btcecom


No proof there dude. Unless BTC-e has confirmed that they are hacked, we can only speculate as what is going on. Again, the latest news is that they are doing unplanned maintenance. So what we can do is to wait until they are done. Here read Bitmixer official announcement regarding stopping their mixing services.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042470.msg20337552#msg20337552


As of now all we can do is really wait and hoping for the best. Yes. the trollbox is very entertaining indeed. We should stay calm and not speculate. No need to panic as well.

EDIT: The following piece of info supersedes and confirms anything below. Sadly. Goodbye btc-e ?

http://www.dailythess.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/alexander_vinnik-2.jpg


Source (Greek): http://www.dailythess.gr/h-megali-klopi-bitcoins-dark-web-ke-chlidati-zoi-tou-rosou-pou-entopise-fbi-sti-chalkidiki/

Also:


Source: https://twitter.com/ReutersTech/status/890232366320553984


Below the former "speculation".

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Maybe related ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFq1K12WsAAT85X.jpg


Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-suspect-idUSKBN1AB1VR?il=0


Source: http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-idUKKBN1AB1OP?il=0

Seems he is being charged (also) for unlicensed money-transfer activity.
Source ( Greek ): http://www.astynomia.gr/index.php?option=ozo_content&lang=%27..%27&perform=view&id=72985&Itemid=1916&lang=

Also:


Source: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/26/reuters-america-update-1-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-bln-bitcoin-laundering-ring.html


Source: https://www.pakistanpoint.com/en/business/news/russian-sought-in-bitcoin-laundering-held-in-167362.html




WARNING, PURE SPECULATION BELOW:
Not here to spread FUD, just to collect some information, for what's possible at current stage.

Afaik one of the founders of btc-e is supposedly named Alexander.
maybe a simple coincidence, not uncommon name for Russians.



Source: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/btc-e-trustworthy-or-recipe-for-disaster/


Source: https://thebitcoinnews.com/alexander-vinnik-admin-btc-e-arrested-greece-4-billion-bitcoin-money-laundering/



Some interesting topic  found by user TheKoziTwo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2045453.new#new), related or not? You judge.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126552.0

Alexander Vinnik User profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=43575

I guess you found the reality.
Thank you .

that's not good
have quite a few LTC there, crap

Both guys have "1967" on their T-shirts (the fat guy in blue arresting the thin guy in black). Coincidence?

https://thebitcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Alexander-Vinnik-admin-of-BTC-e-arrested-in-Greece-for-4-billion-in-Bitcoin-money-laundering.-696x449.jpg (https://thebitcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Alexander-Vinnik-admin-of-BTC-e-arrested-in-Greece-for-4-billion-in-Bitcoin-money-laundering.-696x449.jpg)

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailythess.gr%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F07%2Falexander_vinnik-2.jpg&t=579&c=Hpd6PH1YNis8tQ (https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailythess.gr%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F07%2Falexander_vinnik-2.jpg&t=579&c=Hpd6PH1YNis8tQ)

Now my actual "stupid" theory turns "clever"
But still there is questions on timing of bitmixer
Its really meaningfull

everyone who has fiat at any of services like moneypolo and such should write them, that they should freeze btc-e funds until everything is cleared.

It seems like a crazy theory but true ... lol

66k bitcoin that's a lot of coins since starting when complains started increasing about btc-e people should have taken it as a sign and stop trading through the site , but no people are greedy about the low btc prices on their site and kept making easy profits. He has been arrested but i don't think there is anyway to recover those 66k bitcoins. And i was right i knew it this hack was surely a cover up.

The point is not those 66K coins, nor a hack.

The point is a guy involved in btc-e management ( possibly an  admin) was arrested.
His name is Alexander Vinnik.

He seems involved in the MtGox hack as well.
Maybe 300k bitcoins stolen.

I'm consolidating all the available information so far into this thread:
The BTC-E case thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047600.0)

as far as i know their closing it voluntarily,no ?
Because globally governments are putting pressure on mixers to close their services (Obviously money laundy activity),
that's all what i heard from their statement,
althought the timing closing of bitmixer and arrested Alexander Vinnik are same.
if it's real why only them and no other mixer closing their services too ?
let's make a wild guess,Alexander Vinnik using their services to mixing his Bitcoin and then FBI arrested him and then asked him where's his Bitcoin.
or FBI tracking a large transaction on Bitmixer then arresting Alexander Vinnik because of money laundry ?
it's possible about this my wild guesses?

Some sources dare to say Vinnik is basically the guy who "hacked" or laundered MtGox coins  ...
Quite a charge, if proven true.

See the thread link i posted above for details / source.

The authorities are going after everyone in one blow and one by one they fall. Alphabay, Bitmixer and now BTCe. They also have given a warning on ICOs not to break more laws than they have during the time of their statement.

That's a -most probably- completely irrelevant fact but an extremely good catch!

But BTC-e have nothing to deal with Bitmixer or Aphabay, its a recognized exchange that pays its taxes, right ?

there is a lot of "maybe"s in these articles that makes my head spin :)
it seems like the only reason why they say "Alexander Vinnik" is an admin (owner,...) of btc-e is because there is someone with the same first name "Alexander" in btc-e so they say they may be the same person. and "Alexander" is a very common name in many countries. and for all we know it was a pseudo name like Satoshi!

... and btc-e is still down :D

I'm sorry too many coincidences imho. The guy arrested named. The site going down. The cold wallet disappearing....fun times.

thus

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this was a crazy theory came up true. Nice catch OP!

here some details :
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/suspect-of-mt-gox-hack-and-money-laundering-is-alleged-btc-e-admin-arrested-in-greece/

So everythings now more clear. BTC-e was the lowest price market for BTC. And I remember they always dumped after MTGOX
Now everybody ask that where is cold wallet of BTC-e?
They didnt dumped YET.
I guess Alexander keeps his own Trezor inside of his pocket.

Maybe this will save Greece Economics HuH?

However you cannot connect to the site and it is evident that something is happening. I hope this won't be GOX-2 i have some funds there,  and now cold sweat is not my only concern..They were very secured exchange, but as we can see there in no such thing..

Hehe,  Greece economics saved by bitcoin, nothing could be a better marketing

Suspected Reason for btce down: U.S authorities has ordered an arrest of a Russiaman for money laundering and ransomeware.
 and it has been noticed that all the bitcoin he deposited are linked to bitcoin . So possibly U.S officials just stopped the access of exchange/change ..

I will Miss BTC E Troll Box humor specially during large dumps and Trolls start panicking best laughs,but im glad this guy is caught if he really participated in Mt GOX.

Ha ha. Good eyes.

Is that a coincidence o they wear same uniform?

Implications of this will be much greater and this is final sign for us that centralized exchanges are bad for us and for all crypto..We must abandon them slowly and adopt only those which can provide us Private keys as minimum of assurance. Much better would be complete decentralization. It will be much slower but, security and freedom are expensive for those who fighting for it!

Unfortunately, rather than bitcoin price to drop, we are seeing a gradual improvement in price which is something I see as a good sign to the crypto-world. I think the blame you not be on the mixing services as you connoting here because they are offering their services and it is the duty of the administrators of the sites to keep such safe in the first place and everything about the mixing of coins is not about stolen coins as some individuals prefer to stay below the radar.

There is no proof that this address is actually of btce , reason if you notice daily there are so many transactions taking place who's value is more than 30000 bitcoin , about mixing site can't really blame them as their purpose is only to provide a service in exchange of a fees and they are doing their job. Many people are caught have illegal property's but no blames the builder or the seller for same way mixing site is a seller in this case you can't blame them. The fact the owner has been arrested so maybe this can some true facts only time will tell what actually happened

I quite doubt that. If they have indeed taken over control of their servers and everything, we at least would see a statement on the front page stating that it has been taken down by x agency -- that's how things go usually. I seriously think that the co starter/partner of btc-e is still in full control of everything. But then again, what value does it have when the exchange might never pop up allowing people to cash out? Zero. Not that I believe much will change, but there is not much to do other than to wait what will happen in the coming 5-10 days as btc-e stated.

This is still under investigation and I am quite curious about this theory regarding bitcoin from mt gox getting through his address. Might be he wasn't involved on that hack directly but might be he made few connections to buy those bitcoin cheap from hacker and later sell them to btc-e users to clean it and get huge profit.

I doubt that his partner (if any) will continue run the btc-e with such news, even agency will not against them again after that, but the potential still there. Also community will not trust them to hold their asset and trade there. Just say goodbye for btc-e

And if there still any fund that not control by agency, i think those will be stolen (read: keep it safe) by someone inside

Well, we can now see the takedown/seizure message on btc-e.com. Maybe hasn't propagated yet to btc-e.nz, etc. or maybe they only seized the .com. I don't think Vinnik is anybody -- an early whale/investor or low level admin at most. Definitely not an owner according to insiders. But it doesn't matter. Shutting down the site (even if they couldn't seize any funds) means that it isn't worth it for the owners/admins to pay the fine and try to continue operation. They will be in too much danger. I wish there was a way that users could be repaid but, there just isn't any logical reason for it to happen. :-\