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Title: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: Chaoskampf on May 14, 2013, 04:29:58 AM
     
      I was wondering if there's any interest in developing a Kickstarter clone which runs purely on Bitcoin. In the early days this might not have been as viable, since there wasn't as many opportunities to spend them. Now, as more goods and services are being offered in exchange for our beloved cryptocurrency, funding projects with Bitcoin is becoming more and more possible.
      There's a lot of discussion here concerning the acceptance of this currency, specifically by merchants, as a necessity for it to survive and flourish. The fiat system, in addition to constraining merchant/corporate transactions to fiat, inherently establishes a worker class dependent on highly centralized institutions to provide them their living wages. Through the power of the state, this system has evolved into the Orwellian nightmare we all know and hate. Although we can always depend on individuals to collaborate on projects and provide salaries in a small business context, the Bitcoin community can not depend on the state to subsidize things like basic research, heating and energy projects, interest groups, telecommunications, artistic endeavors, or a whole host of services.
      A framework similar to what we know as Kickstarter, could be the key to Bitcoin's evolution to another level of legitimacy. A rich and vibrant economy cannot exist on the backs of merchants alone. You need scientists, artists, inventors, writers, and thinkers of all denominations. These people cannot do what they do, and be businessmen at the same time. They need time to devote to their craft. They need financial wiggle room to think and develop their ideas and projects, without spending their time worrying about how to sell off widgets to pay the bills. In the fiat system, large institutions (universities, the music/movie industry, industrial/technical companies, newspapers/magazine/publishing houses) provide wage jobs for them which distribute paper money in order for them to go pump it back into the same system, creating a vicious cycle of dependence.
      The only way to kill the fiat beast is to divert participation. After all, it is purely voluntary (in theory). We've already planted the seeds of the economy. You can buy things with a Bitcoin. If we can create an environment where individuals have a real choice between participating in the fiat economy and this one, then I think we have a real chance to change our world in a very powerful way.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: Chaoskampf on May 14, 2013, 04:52:58 AM
I'm familiar with existing/previous attempts. I was asking because it seems like none of them are really taking off properly. I feel like this is partly because of how young this economy is. I suppose my main goal in posting the thread would be to encourage this idea. It's one of the only ways we can dissociate from the existing system which I can think of. Perhaps that's just the limit of my imagination.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: Stunna on May 14, 2013, 05:00:39 AM
I'm familiar with existing/previous attempts. I was asking because it seems like none of them are really taking off properly. I feel like this is partly because of how young this economy is. I suppose my main goal in posting the thread would be to encourage this idea. It's one of the only ways we can dissociate from the existing system which I can think of. Perhaps that's just the limit of my imagination.

If you made one with a very solid design, intuitive UI, and had some sort of escrow system which wouldn't cause backers to have to place trust on you initially then I don't see why this wouldn't be a success.

This sort of business structure might not work as well in the bitcoin world though but if you give it your all and the website is solid I'd definitely give it a shot.

Although, getting people to use the site is probably half if not the majority of the trouble...

Good luck to you!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: Chaoskampf on May 14, 2013, 06:38:49 AM
Same topic, more postings....



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204703.0


Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: knybe on May 14, 2013, 01:18:56 PM
Way too soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: Chaoskampf on May 14, 2013, 05:22:04 PM
Way too soon.


It's only too soon as long as nobody is doing anything about it. Without action and initiative, we stay in place. It's because of Satoshis and others that progress is made.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: bitcoinstarter on May 14, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
I'm familiar with existing/previous attempts. I was asking because it seems like none of them are really taking off properly. I feel like this is partly because of how young this economy is. I suppose my main goal in posting the thread would be to encourage this idea. It's one of the only ways we can dissociate from the existing system which I can think of. Perhaps that's just the limit of my imagination.

If you made one with a very solid design, intuitive UI, and had some sort of escrow system which wouldn't cause backers to have to place trust on you initially then I don't see why this wouldn't be a success.

This sort of business structure might not work as well in the bitcoin world though but if you give it your all and the website is solid I'd definitely give it a shot.

Although, getting people to use the site is probably half if not the majority of the trouble...

Good luck to you!

Can you let me know what is wrong with my Bitcoin crowdfunding platform?  Be great to get some feedback.  

http://www.bitcoinstarter.com

What I'm finding is people want this Bitcoin Crowdfunding system but when its built not to many people want to use it :/ . In other words, they do a lot of talking and not much action.

Thanks,
BitcoinStarter


Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: Welsh on May 14, 2013, 06:50:42 PM


Can you let me know what is wrong with my Bitcoin crowdfunding platform?  Be great to get some feedback.  

http://www.bitcoinstarter.com

What I'm finding is people want this system but when its built not to many people want to use it :/

Thanks,
BitcoinStarter
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I think the site is pretty bland, and needs a little graphical work, in my personal opinion it's just lacking that professional feeling, could just be me I suppose.

I will look into your site more when i'm home, currently on a mobile device which isn't good for browsing you typing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Kickstarter
Post by: hammo on February 07, 2014, 04:16:35 AM
It renders horribly on mobile screen. Use adaptive template. Until you get critical mass it won't take off. Consider news worthy campaign and promote heavily. Good luck.