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Title: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: sumangs on July 26, 2017, 01:49:41 PM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: CryptoBry on July 26, 2017, 01:55:18 PM
I am not actually aware that China is banning access of their citizens for this forum. And that can be sad. Anyway, it is not our loss if a country would choose to ban this forum. This forum has been helping the Bitcoin community for a long time and we all appreciate this forum which can be the bridge promoting understanding and exchange of ideas.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Liza Soberano on July 26, 2017, 02:18:40 PM
I hope it will never happened it our country , bitcoin help a lot especially for those student who are already financially depwndent in this cryptocurrency becausw it may to result different consequences that may cause someone to hack Government system, probably.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: crazyivan on July 26, 2017, 02:20:54 PM
Why would a forum be banned anywhere? Man, free world really takes its freedom as granted. Banning a forum???? FFS!


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: samuraijin on July 26, 2017, 02:28:05 PM
Probably because of spam or it could be from any country that also prohibits access to this site or the government of the country that makes the rules prohibit access to this forum not from this forum that deny access from the public


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Kronos21 on July 26, 2017, 02:36:08 PM
I have not heard. Now you can do something to prohibit? Many use VPN, Proxy, tor browser. How will they monitor such a ban? Russia already prohibits in its territory the VPN but it will not bring the desired result. It remains only to wait when will begin to ban the use of the Internet. Maybe the Russians and the Chinese too much talk with Kim Jong UN? They're your neighbors.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: tiggytomb on July 26, 2017, 02:38:04 PM
I think China just wants to ban everything, I think it would be pretty hard to ban this forum due to the various ways people can access the internet.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Kprawn on July 26, 2017, 02:42:20 PM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

Bitcointalk.org promotes Freedom of speech and some countries want to govern ALL aspects of people's life, so they ban sites that

promotes that.  They also want to prevent their citizens to communicate with people, who can think for themselves. Some countries

have strong religious believes or cultures and they ban these sites to prevent their citizens to mix with people who differ from them.

We can only help these people by providing them with tools to bypass these restrictions and to give them a voice.  ;)


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Termin4tor on July 26, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
That's just plain weird. I see no reason for a simple informative website such as bitcointalk to be banned in china. If a website was promotion illegal activities or providing illicit resources to an individual it would be a reason. Maybe the censorship policy is just too much in china and they don't want bitcoin to take over the country? Who knows.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: dothebeats on July 26, 2017, 02:49:14 PM
Why would a forum be banned anywhere? Man, free world really takes its freedom as granted. Banning a forum???? FFS!

It is, considering that in the 21st century, everyone is posting stupid, nonsensical things in social media to "express" themselves. But some countries still have strict stance against other countries' culture, beliefs, ideologies and whatnot. One of them is China. Ever wondered why the Great (fire)Wall of China exists? To prevent their users from accessing contents about the Western world and their cultures that could free up 'liberalism' in their minds.



OP, wrong board. This should be in the Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0) subforum.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: RodeoX on July 26, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
Not surprising considering China banns words like democracy and oppression. Without net neutrality this is what our internet would look like also. Hell, why not ban the word bitcoin? Ya know, to protect the children.  


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Ayers on July 26, 2017, 02:51:20 PM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

are you sure? what is your source, and if it's true how it's possible that we have a chinese section then lol?, china is not banning bitcointalk, they can freerly use it, or maybe they are bypassing the banning with vps, someone must be wrong here


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: SvenBomvolen on July 26, 2017, 02:52:21 PM
Bitcointalk is the only place where I can earn some bitcoind for better life and a bit for gambling. Thanks God it is working in Serbia where I live. I suppose this forum become the greatest source for information and work for many people over the world and I don't know why China's government decided to ban such a good site.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: mk4 on July 26, 2017, 02:53:04 PM
Why would a forum be banned anywhere? Man, free world really takes its freedom as granted. Banning a forum???? FFS!

I don't think China really fits the definition of "free world"   ;D  Facebook banned, Google banned (I think), YouTube banned, etc. China likes creating their version of things. Hence we see China's NEO. There probably is a bitcointalk forum counterpart for the chinese.  :D


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Lucius on July 26, 2017, 02:55:33 PM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

You probably are not familiar with how some things works in China,and since there is still a communist party in power there, if this news is true this is no surprise for me.Communist party greatly influences on all aspects of life in China,especially by limiting some things and censoring what they do not want to people see.Although economic they become the most powerful force in the world,on the issue of human rights and freedoms they are behind with some other less developed countries.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: chixka000 on July 26, 2017, 02:59:57 PM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

Bitcointalk.org promotes Freedom of speech and some countries want to govern ALL aspects of people's life, so they ban sites that

promotes that.  They also want to prevent their citizens to communicate with people, who can think for themselves. Some countries

have strong religious believes or cultures and they ban these sites to prevent their citizens to mix with people who differ from them.

We can only help these people by providing them with tools to bypass these restrictions and to give them a voice.  ;)

I think i can give you the best example. North korea, yet on the china's part this situation is very accurate. They have their own social sites their own apps and most of it are being used as an alternative for the global platform to keep them isolated


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: davidmccoy on July 26, 2017, 05:17:21 PM
This is the very informative forum for the traders. You get instant answers to your queries. If any country is banning this forum, it is not fair.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: zwiggel on July 26, 2017, 05:17:46 PM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

I have never heard any information about that, bitcointalk is the official bitcoin forum, it is the biggest forum of the bitcoin community. There is no reason for China to ban it. I think you made a few mistakes, so check it out.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: hilariousetc on July 26, 2017, 05:23:23 PM
China actually restricts access to a lot of sites including Facebook apparently:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_mainland_China

Article on China blocking this forum specifically: https://cointelegraph.com/news/the-strange-case-of-bitcointalks-chinese-ban


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: kpcian on July 26, 2017, 05:42:30 PM
still, there are some countries those are not interested in allowing Bitcoin as a legal currency, Like China and Bangladesh. it is really thought to understand their strategy about Bitcoin. so it is not a big deal for Bitcoin. in the future, all over the world Bitcoin will be legal currency. most important thing is that, though the country is not allowing it, the citizen of that country still transacting Bitcoin. so it doesn't make any sense regarding legalization.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: erikalui on July 26, 2017, 08:03:03 PM
Then do China residents use proxy to access this website? It's weird to block a forum as this forum is not as famous as Facebook and other sites. Also, this site doesn't violate any laws that it should get banned in any country unless bitcoin is banned.

Edit: This was reported in 2014 and not now. https://cointelegraph.com/news/the-strange-case-of-bitcointalks-chinese-ban


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: botany on July 27, 2017, 12:12:31 AM
Then do China residents use proxy to access this website? It's weird to block a forum as this forum is not as famous as Facebook and other sites. Also, this site doesn't violate any laws that it should get banned in any country unless bitcoin is banned.

Edit: This was reported in 2014 and not now. https://cointelegraph.com/news/the-strange-case-of-bitcointalks-chinese-ban

Connections to the Tor network are already blocked in China.
Looks like the government is now cracking down on VPNs as well.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/23/vpn-crackdown-unthinkable-trial-by-firewall-for-chinas-research-world.html


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: captainhera on July 27, 2017, 01:32:12 AM
I am not actually aware that China is a country development an ICO, why not that bitcointalk is banned. At my country that bitcointalk is many known to and verry development.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 27, 2017, 02:14:51 AM
Not surprising considering China banns words like democracy and oppression. Without net neutrality this is what our internet would look like also. Hell, why not ban the word bitcoin? Ya know, to protect the children.  
Exactly what you'd expect from China,  a communist country with an extensive history of suppressing free thinking.  

But is this really true?  Somehow I doubt it.   And honestly it would cut down on spam, as would a bann of the Philippines and Vietnam.   No offense, but it seems like shitposters are heavily represented by those areas.

Edit:  I've been friends with both Filipinos and chinamen.  Still wouldn't want natives from those countries posting garbage here because they can't speak the language.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Slowhand26 on July 27, 2017, 05:47:32 AM
Not surprising considering China banns words like democracy and oppression. Without net neutrality this is what our internet would look like also. Hell, why not ban the word bitcoin? Ya know, to protect the children.  
Exactly what you'd expect from China,  a communist country with an extensive history of suppressing free thinking.  

But is this really true?  Somehow I doubt it.   And honestly it would cut down on spam, as would a bann of the Philippines and Vietnam.   No offense, but it seems like shitposters are heavily represented by those areas.

Edit:  I've been friends with both Filipinos and chinamen.  Still wouldn't want natives from those countries posting garbage here because they can't speak the language.

Don't generalize Filipinos. English is not our mother tongue but it's considered as our 2nd language. And how would you know they from these 2 countries? There are lot of countries that can't speak English well. That's why good mods here created sub categories for each country.

Edit: You said Philippines and Vietnam then you mentioned China. Just to give you little idea, Vietnamese are not Chinese, gather your thoughts my friend.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: se150401317 on July 27, 2017, 09:04:34 AM
I've not heard of this before. Can you give the link to the post? Maybe there will be mentioned a reason why they are banning this forum?


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Phildo on August 24, 2017, 01:17:50 PM
I think if china bans bitcointalk it will be a bit difficult because bitcointalk is on the Internet and everyone is able to access Internet
If bitcointalk is banned in China someone will just be able to access using VPS/VPN or Proxy, and I'm sure there are some members in bitcointalk  are from China.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Roboabhishek on August 24, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

I am sure it's only in North Korea and China there are only those 2 places on earth that are banning human rights.
Also, not only bitcointalk but i have heard that every social media website and other stuff related to sharing about north Korea are also banned.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: neverforgetbtc on August 26, 2017, 02:02:38 AM
Understandable that they banned it.  It has a lot of links to free money on it.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Oo ako to on August 28, 2017, 07:43:49 AM
I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

I am sure it's only in North Korea and China there are only those 2 places on earth that are banning human rights.
Also, not only bitcointalk but i have heard that every social media website and other stuff related to sharing about north Korea are also banned.


North korea is known for being away from the modern world but I hope China will remove the ban. They will make a good effect on cryptomarket if they are also using  btctalk.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Jet Cash on August 28, 2017, 03:35:09 PM
There is so much censorship appearing on the net at the moment. ISPs are starting to ban sites, and YouTube is demonetising some of its submitters. It's promoting the rise of sites like DTube, and a couple of social media networks are talking about launching satellites to bypass Governments and ISPs. I'm sure Bitcoin nodes would still work well over these satellite links.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: LTU_btc on August 28, 2017, 11:59:10 PM
I'm not surprised that bitcointalk can be banned in China. Many popular foreign websites banned there, even giants like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube. China want to control censore internet. And it also applies to bitcointalk.

I saw a post from reddit that bitcointalk is banned in China. Are there other countries that banned this famous bitcoin forum? Also, what are the reasons for banning it?

I am sure it's only in North Korea and China there are only those 2 places on earth that are banning human rights.
Also, not only bitcointalk but i have heard that every social media website and other stuff related to sharing about north Korea are also banned.
You are completely wrong. Mostly civilised countries are doing same thing, only smaller scale. They are blocking illegal websites - torrents, porn an etc.
And I saw that Turkey ofter blocking social networks for short periods.
P.S. sometimes I see that tourists posting photos from China on Facebook. Does anyone know how they bypass blocking?


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: hachiman13 on August 29, 2017, 12:08:52 AM
Well, that's china for you...always doing messed up things. Maybe they have their own forum for bitcoin or are scared that unnecessary information to spread because of this forum.  


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: ecnalubma on August 29, 2017, 06:39:42 AM
China is not an open market for everybody, they have a lot pride of making their own. Maybe they have their own forum circulating in their country made them ignore bitcointalk.org


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Flomo on August 29, 2017, 06:54:04 AM
I have never seen a ban for bitcointalk in any country,
Even if there may be a specific reason for the ban, what causes the ban?
one reason may be a state security issue.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: Wingo on August 30, 2017, 07:20:33 PM
Do you have any source about this one? It's sad if this is true, and what may be the reason?


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: jasondublinkun on August 30, 2017, 10:24:17 PM
I don't worry about it. Friends and developers in China who belong to this community know it well how to visit websites that are banned there.


Title: Re: Countries that banned bitcointalk.org
Post by: SokrieeE on August 30, 2017, 10:33:08 PM
why banning bitcointalk first time to hear from members below that bitcointalk banned in china is that true ? and why? Thank god that bitcointalk working fast in my county.