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In my country since there are cases of bitcoin malware with the increasingly make bad bitcoin image in the eyes of the people.i Hope in your country is not so and hopefully the future of people's view about bitcoin getting better... :) :) ;)

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What crime do you mean?
Is it ransomeware?
I think the news is long and over. You may not read the news. Crime can be done with any tool including Bitcoin.

Bitcoin malware? don't you mean scam or something? or maybe the bitcoin mining virus?

It is internet dude. It is borderless. There are not thing like malware by country, unless they target some specific language. If that's what do you mean ???

Yes I'm pretty sure he is talking about Randsomware because uneducated people think that Bitcoin is to blame.


This is another possibility. The amount of scams online is crazy. Remember the BTC doubler madness ? I wonder how many guillable people lost Bitcoins with that.  Then there is the Ponzi.

Surely there will be crime in the internet world, we should all be careful maybe now in your country who knows the future will be in my country,
I hope it will not happen.

There are so many topics about this already. Bitcoin and crime, Bitcoin and terrorism, Bitcoin and  ISIS, and so on. And the waves of medias talking bad about bitcoin is over, Those same medias are now saying how bitcoin is wonderfull and profitable

No, this is a global issue - ransomware is not country specific... I have noticed that the mainstream media in my country (UK) although they mention bitcoin as the payment method they have not pushed an anti-bitcoin agenda, surprisingly! I find it important to always point out to anyone who mentions bitcoin as the currency of criminals, that cash is still knig for them...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-17/criminal-groups-still-prefer-cash-bitcoin-eu-study-finds

Typical post from a sig spammer.

You are right we already have few threads about this its just waste of time and spam here hope some one will lock this because we already discuss about this  :(

Regardless of whether bitcoin is to blame it still effects its image. The fact that Bitcoin is used in crime is a bad thing for the world, but actually a good thing for the price. In the future bitcoin will hopefully used more for good rather than evil.

christ I checked his posts almost all of them are bounty replies with the same copy paste facebook profiles

Where are you residing? I don't think that people will ever consider bitcoin as being bad, once you hear about it, you will be interested in learning more about it. In my opinion, I think it will gain more recognition in your country.

On mu country there is no clear imagination about bitcoinyet, bu mu opinion. Im from Serbia and I think our government is still watching on other countries experience in that point before to make it's own move. Meanwhile ordinary people make bitcoin on different ways, here 3500$ is a really big money and those who got involved into this years ago and kept must be rich now  :D

Do not forget that Bitcoin is just an instrument.

no no no bitcoin don't have any relation with crime and a good thing is no one can took away your bitcoin from you because they do not exist in hard form so you  do not have to worry. just protect them by strong password.

Yes everyone picture Bitcoin with crime as there is so much theft, etc. which is sad.

I think soon people will get better at security and there will not be so much theft.

Right now it is like the "Wild, Wild West" you can just go into a bank with a gun and take all of the money.

Well he's from Indonesia, tho I don't know how hard Indonesia was hit by that wannacry virus and if that's the case I can see how people, who have never heard of bitcoin, tie bitcoin to that ransomware.

Discussion about the fight of bitcoin against government seems to be endless. Already comes the time to create a sub-part of forum about it to accumulate the general information and collect different rumors etc. :)

One man's tool is another man's weapon.

So, don't stress yourself about that. Everything good there are some people that want to destroy it.

This is an old case but in my neighborhood I do not see a bad response to bitcoin, because most people here do not know about bitcoin so most of them do not care about the case.

There has always been crime, and bitcoin is often used in crime on the internet. It has created a bad image of bitcoin, but om glad that at least in my country, the media covers only the positive parts of bitcoin :)

many scams going on Bitcoin, web Scam, ico Scam and other deceptive investment. Many people get stuck in it so they lose their money.

The good news about Bitcoin has spread and I sure Bitcoin will always increase.

You have to ask yourself this question, "Is the technology to be blamed or the people doing these crimes?" The technology is getting the bad reputation for people who are using it for these crimes.

If someone hack a notebook and use the built-in webcam to take nude pictures of a women and then transfer those images over the internet to his own computer and then ask a ransom from that women not to publish those pictures online, would you blame the notebook manufacturer or the internet that was used to transfer the images or the person doing this?

Do not blame the technology for the people doing the crimes. < What did they use before Bitcoin? Answer : Cash or PayPal or credit cards > 

the crime is sure to happen on the internet because now it is sophisticated and easy to happen crime, with bitcoin also accessed via sosmed may also easily happen crime in bitcoin i have not understood about this

Government is just finding some lee way on their lapses of preventing crime and they saw Bitcoin is one perfect excuse.  But honestly? Did this government researched about the blockchain transparency?  When it comes to fraud and money laundering I am sure they are barking at the wrong tree if they think Bitcoin encourage these.

evil begins and one's intentions and character. basically if a person is good, he tends to behave well. and if someone is evil, he will not hesitate to do anything for his goal to be achieved. as well as bitcoin. it all lies in the thinking and education of the people who want to be involved in it.

It does really start on ones intention no matter how we positively use on bitcoin but still there are people who do always see the possibility of using bitcoin on negative way and they dont really care on affecting its reputation as long they can able to execute their evil plans. This is why government doesnt really like bitcoin because it can really boost up crime if its citizens would see its negative side.

That is true, most people use bitcoin for being involved with crime, or just to steal money. If you join to the deep web, everybody is selling stuff for bitcoins, or just selling credit cards, hacked paypal accounts, and everything. Bitcoin is used for money laundering, that is why nobody can buy bitcoins with credit cards without Identity identification.

for evil, there will always be wherever it is. if evil disappears from this world, I am sure the world will end, hahahaha.

that is, if people don't like bitcoin, they will corner and look bad.

in cyber crime, tend to be the main choice to be money laundering. many options, in terms of secrecy and the difficulty of being tracked. this is the main factor why hackers tend to choose bitcoin to nest their wallets.

bitcoin can not do anything, bitcoin character is dependent on people who use it, suppose most people use bitcoin to transact in black market of course bitcoin name will be bad, but misalka most people use bitcoin for legal transaction of course bitcoin name will be good. My expectation of bitcoin is used for positive action so that the name of bitcoin remains beautiful and has more and more enthusiasts

Bitcoin, as an electronic form of payment that isn't associated to real world names, is naturally receiving use by malevolent people. Cash also receives use from parties interested in illegal acts. What's a logical defense to this? Bitcoin actually has many usage applications that are very legal and can be very convenient for conventional payments, that's not to be overshadowed by the few that use it for illegal acts.

Criminals committed crimes before bitcoin was invented. And they will do whatever the development of the crypto currency. I want to say that the crypto currency does not contribute to the development of crime

Has your country banned the US Dollar? If not, I'd ignore anyone in your country saying "bitcoin is the currency of thieves". Because before Bitcoin it was the US Dollar that was the global currency of criminals. And if your country didn't ban the US Dollar than they really don't care about the criminals using a specific currency, they're just trying to find another reason to be against Bitcoin.

I think the bit about not being able to buy with credit cards isn't because of money laundering but because it would make it a lot easier to commit fraud. 

I think that's how someone responds. not everyone will think badly, in accordance with the knowledge he has, education is the most important to assess something. so too with evil, all very potential to be evil if the culprit has the nature of the devil

bitcoins, actually cryptos in general, greatly facilitate the operation of crime.

crime, organized crime at least, usually has profit motive attached (ignore terrorism for the sake of this argument). bitcoin is money, not quite anonymous, but anonymous enough at this point. the government basically doesnt like illicit earnings because it does not get to tax said earnings. whats one f the easiest ways to avoid taxation at the moment, with a significant amount of value?

bitcoin ;)

so bitcoin will always attract the not so noble crowd, in its current form it just happens to be a pretty effective tool for transmitting illicit funds quickly and quietly :(

People also used fiat currency for their criminal activities. So why now blame it on Bitcoin because is modern currency?

Illegal acts even crime is really part of every countries economy regardless of what country this issue is very inevitable and we cannot blame if bitcoin was use for it. Bitcoin is also a currency like every other fiat its just that it has no physical value but using it is like other currency we don't have any control over the owner of it

i think we are seeing more and more everyday that BTC is not ideal for illicit activity. it's easily traceable. a few years ago, blockchain/taint analysis wasn't a big thing, but there is an entire industry based around it now. and these companies work very closely with law enforcement agencies. in that vein, it's no big surprise to see alphabay and hansa shut down the way they were. i would even be wary of some of the BTC mixers..... if i were the FBI or INTERPOL, i'd be running mixers as honeypots. hell, law enforcement was running hansa as a honeypot!

i hope that XMR continues to confound blockchain analysis companies. it seems to be our best hope for anonymity of the blockchain.

Fiat is also used to fund crimes and a lot more than Bitcoin. BTC is a new used currency by a small community (compared to the worldwide population), and crime is funded since very long time, via fiat currencies.

Bitcoin was first used as a tool for criminals to transact with relative anonymity (especially at the beginning when 99.9% of police departments did not understand the blockchain). Everyone knows this. It still happens to this day though, unfortunately.

The biggest obstacle to Bitcoin's legalization is that it has been used for bad purposes. Unfortunately, in the following days, the malicious person can contaminate the name of Bitcoin, but sometimes it can have positive results, you remember the Wannacry virus.

is actually not a bad bitcoin, it's just being utilized by people who are less responsible. so often used to do cyber criminal, anonymous, difficult to trace.

think positive bro. Bitcoin become scum and breaks people's view here.Because people who are selfish and vulnerable are scattered on the internet.Therefore it is always worth taking care.

in my country bitcoin also illegal but I hope our government should be legal this.most of the young site of my county they are involved in bitcoin. that's why day by day bitcoin popularity in my country is very higher.

I agree, why blame bitcoin if people are the one who are using it. Bitcoin will be just an accessory to the crime.
Whatever people use for their bad doings it's not the fault of such thing instead the blame is all in the people.
And no one of us can prevent this because bitcoin is pseudonymous and no one can track transaction and we're all clueless.

Then I think you need to be very careful since bitcoin is illegal in your place. There is a lot of reason that bitcoin is illegal in your country and also, there are a lot of countries that ban bitcoin too. And I also think your statement is confusing me, a lot of site are involved in bitcoin but the thing is it is banned in your country and it's popularity is increasing.

Criminals have always used and will use advanced technology for their own purposes. However, this is not an excuse to ban them. For example, many crimes are always committed with the use of household knives. However, it never occurred to anyone to prohibit knives, because criminals use them. This is the problem of law enforcement agencies as such criminals to find and isolate. This should not stop technical progress.

The ransom ware attack you are mentioning is not focused on a particular country,it was a global thing and sure they are asking bounties in form of bitcoin,does it get a bad name because of that,may be from people who does not understand what bitcoin is,criminals change and they will find a new way to get their ransom,there are anonymous crypto currencies and in short time they will start sending out attacks and asking to pay in those.

If you could say which country you are..
Well, as with cryptos there are these illegal activities attached, even with fiat these kind of illegal activities happen, but in a different way. So I don't see just making BITCOIN associated with crime, because the beloved fiat, have also these issues. And as BTC is new, and less centralized, maybe someone who has the expertise can make some upgrades and make btc flawless( not entirely) and better than the fiat currencies.

as much as it perpetuates a negative stigma of bitcoin, you need to show the bad parts of what happens in the cryptocurrency world. there's no point in making bitcoin seem like a perfect idea, people need to be aware, or be given the opportunities to be aware of everything they can concerning their finances. it might be nice to just hear good news all the time, but there's no point in sheltering people in the long run. whatever media outlet's youre watching that only cover the positives of bitcoin, id advise you to stop watching those.

anyone will use anything available to them. not using the resources available to you is just limiting yourself, nothing more. as it follows, normal currency, the kind we're used  to is widely used by criminals as well, in fact, the great majority of criminal dealings involve fiat currency. so why is it not illegal? there's zero actual substance to the 'criminals use bitcoin' argument as far as i can see.

There is malware and virus for everything, it's not just for bitcoin.

In our country,even we are part of thirds world poor country,i have not  heard news or some folks story that bitcoin involve in crimes  rates or drugs.mostly people here's our country not so familiar about bitcoin.mostly bitcoin here is used in right direction,mostly people here used bitcoin for investment and financial needs.

Bitcoin and crime are there's no point in making bitcoin seem like a perfect idea, people need to be aware, or be given the opportunities to be aware of everything they can concerning their finances. it might be nice to just hear good news all the time, but there's no point in sheltering people in the long rudrugs  i have not  heard news or some folks story that bitcoin involve in crimes  rates or drugs this are bitcoin and crime

Bitcoin Malware?? what Do you mean?? do not associate bitcoin with a crime, because the crime can be done with or without bitcoin. even before bitcoin is created any crime can be done.

any currency can be used in crime not only bitcoin , so the people decide that .

Bitcoin will continue to be used for crime just like the internet is, eventually people will just become numb to it. Criminals operate with USD, JPY, CNY ect. Bitcoin will be no different.

There has always been crime, people utilise emerging technology in crime in attempt to stay ahead of the local and intl law enforcement - this has always been the case, this does not mean the technology is inherently bad - similar to how a knife can be used to butter bread - or kill someone. The intention is the issue not the item or technology

In the opinion that governments around the world make a collective agreement on bitcoin eating criminals will not use bitcoin as a means to pay for their criminal activities.

if people do not know the actual bitcoin, it must be evil. sometimes too many accuse bitcoin is a bad job, but if people know bitcoin will think twice. that bitcoin is a very positive benefit for us.

Virtually everything that surrounds us can be used for good as well as for evil intent, that is, for committing a crime. If the crime is committed with the help of a certain instrument, it does not occur to anyone to blame for all this instrument of crime. Accuse a person who, with a certain degree of guilt, committed a crime or less serious misconduct. In this case, it is also impossible to blame the crypto currency with which the crime was committed. In all the fault of a man who turned something to evil. Therefore, you can not claim bitcoin or another digital coin that a crime has been committed with their help.

Dig deeper, crime within cryptocurrencies is not a new thing, victims are everywhere if you consider any p & d which is illegal in regulated stock market.

Highlighting these matters furiously doesn't change the fact that new comers are investing regardless, i suppose your malware in your case is about ransomware, where criminals are able to get away with funds untraceable.  Countries currently are more skeptical with ICOs rather than Bitcoin itself

its true there is a lot of money laundry and terorist fund raising. this i why we need an universal regulation that protect investor.

is bad news if this can happen in my country, because we have gone to great lengths to get bitcoin and lost it because malware. of course i will be very sad  :'(

bitcoin because you have a good future for this

Without a good case for my country, we are not allowed to use bitcoin freely, or in other words, it is prohibited. We still use bitcoin, but we can not publicize it, we have to hide the government, and it is a bad thing.

I think continue to learn bitcoin, you will get big enough profit.

I think most people use bitcoin, to be an investment in their lives.

Oh well when it comes to money whether it be fiat or bitcoin or any other altcoin there will always be a crime involved. Its only upto us on how we use our coins. If one uses bitcoin for bad things, that won't account to all of us unless you imitate them and do bad as well.

Scammers their the ones who is making the bitcoin image to the people into ruins their ruining the peoples through their blasphemy into tricking that they can get into something out of nothing. The hell with those and the hackers.

yes, I know that bitcoin is safe and when the transaction will be difficult to trace, so sometimes this bitcoin become one of the ways that bad people use to do crime. and that's one of the reasons the bitcon is not legalized in a country.
the solution is when we want to socialize bitcoin should see who the object. whether a person is good or evil.

People always used fiat for crime and will do the same with crypto

I think most of the people use bitcoin as a investment of their money and they can get and earn more profit by using it.So we can say easily that bitcoin is a honest business for all currency people.But some bad people who use this for their evil work.Actually,That work which done by bad people is known to all as a crime.

There are some issues I heard like a person looking for bitcoin investors promising for a high return and when you give them your money they will be gone in an instant. It's really sad how other people use bitcoin to manipulate people and do bad things the idea of bitcoin is really good but if people will use it in crime or scam the essence of having opportunity for additional income or investment become worthless.

Viruses are everywhere, just use caution when downloading software.

What? Which country? What are talking about?

Talking about ransomware is not the case with our country but still we should be careful while dealing with digital currency as BTC is used in crimes also which ruins its image among people.So use it in wise manner

Fortunately, my country has not had such a thing. But there are too few people know and use btc. In the future I hope everything will be different so that we can use btc more freely.

in my country, i am not heard any news related bitcoin and crime but i only heard about the investment programs which using bitcoin as their payment and after run several month, suddenly the programs is getting close by the government and people is regret and very sadly because they invest all of their money into that programs. actually people is already telling by many news but they don't listen and they don't search in any other place about the programs so once the programs is close, they can not do anything.