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Title: BTC-e.com
Post by: Shaulov on July 28, 2017, 02:16:08 AM
Dear everyone,

im holding atleast 500,000$ in my btc-e wallet what looks like gone for now.
im holding like 1700 ETH, 35k coins of NVC and 100k coins of NMC.

I heard good and bad news from the Russian side, but i dont know what to believe.
If there another peoples who control the BTC-e website the best for him is to go live back instead of stealing our money what will bring them to a criminal case.

I've also made a verification to BTC-E into XBTCE but they dont take any responsibility for now.

Anyone here also have more then 100K$ into the exchange please inform me so we can act together in any cases.

I hope to get a good news soon. :(


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: ETCethereum on July 28, 2017, 06:00:12 AM
i think youre money can gone and lost
because BTC-e founder problem about law, case money laundring


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: mayax on July 28, 2017, 08:58:55 AM
Dear everyone,

im holding atleast 500,000$ in my btc-e wallet what looks like gone for now.
im holding like 1700 ETH, 35k coins of NVC and 100k coins of NMC.

I heard good and bad news from the Russian side, but i dont know what to believe.
If there another peoples who control the BTC-e website the best for him is to go live back instead of stealing our money what will bring them to a criminal case.

I've also made a verification to BTC-E into XBTCE but they dont take any responsibility for now.

Anyone here also have more then 100K$ into the exchange please inform me so we can act together in any cases.

I hope to get a good news soon. :(

you must be either stupid or ignorant (sorry, dude for this is the truth and you must face it.)  How can you put 500K USD in an UNLICENSED exchanger? that means you can afford to lose the money and done. don't come on forums to complain about that.

I said for tens of times that BTC-e is shady, shitty and it will be closed soon.

Again, you afford to lose this amount if you used this exchanger.

Stay away of Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex. They will have the same end...soon. :)



Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: bitjoin on July 28, 2017, 09:28:17 AM
i think youre money can gone and lost
because BTC-e founder problem about law, case money laundring

I dont think the gov can take money of customer but there are other problems like... what happenes if the mtgox customers want some of the money back also - how much do BTC-e owners have to cover all this.  The legal mess could mean huge amount of time also. 

OP you need to relax for now, i have had money stuck in gox for years i know how bad you feel but please relax until we know more details.



Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: bonker on July 28, 2017, 09:37:34 AM
Dear everyone,

im holding atleast 500,000$ in my btc-e wallet what looks like gone for now.
im holding like 1700 ETH, 35k coins of NVC and 100k coins of NMC.

I heard good and bad news from the Russian side, but i dont know what to believe.
If there another peoples who control the BTC-e website the best for him is to go live back instead of stealing our money what will bring them to a criminal case.

I've also made a verification to BTC-E into XBTCE but they dont take any responsibility for now.

Anyone here also have more then 100K$ into the exchange please inform me so we can act together in any cases.

I hope to get a good news soon. :(

Ignore the doom-mongering ghouls. BTC-e will be back up and fully functional within the week

BTC-e at worst has a fine to pay that it can easily do so. The site is a fucking money printing machine, those guys are working flat out to get it back online


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: kelvinhsu on July 28, 2017, 10:56:38 AM
I also have about $250,000 btc-e code in there.
Bad news for me.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: bitjoin on July 28, 2017, 01:50:47 PM
Dear everyone,

im holding atleast 500,000$ in my btc-e wallet what looks like gone for now.
im holding like 1700 ETH, 35k coins of NVC and 100k coins of NMC.

I heard good and bad news from the Russian side, but i dont know what to believe.
If there another peoples who control the BTC-e website the best for him is to go live back instead of stealing our money what will bring them to a criminal case.

I've also made a verification to BTC-E into XBTCE but they dont take any responsibility for now.

Anyone here also have more then 100K$ into the exchange please inform me so we can act together in any cases.

I hope to get a good news soon. :(

Ignore the doom-mongering ghouls. BTC-e will be back up and fully functional within the week

BTC-e at worst has a fine to pay that it can easily do so. The site is a fucking money printing machine, those guys are working flat out to get it back online

I hope you are right but why are they down if its just a fine to pay is what i wonder? The other problem is they were a money printing machine, now can people use them ? At least we know more who they are now ha.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: bananax on July 28, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Dear everyone,

im holding atleast 500,000$ in my btc-e wallet what looks like gone for now.
im holding like 1700 ETH, 35k coins of NVC and 100k coins of NMC.

I heard good and bad news from the Russian side, but i dont know what to believe.
If there another peoples who control the BTC-e website the best for him is to go live back instead of stealing our money what will bring them to a criminal case.

I've also made a verification to BTC-E into XBTCE but they dont take any responsibility for now.

Anyone here also have more then 100K$ into the exchange please inform me so we can act together in any cases.

I hope to get a good news soon. :(

Ignore the doom-mongering ghouls. BTC-e will be back up and fully functional within the week

BTC-e at worst has a fine to pay that it can easily do so. The site is a fucking money printing machine, those guys are working flat out to get it back online

I hope you are right but why are they down if its just a fine to pay is what i wonder? The other problem is they were a money printing machine, now can people use them ? At least we know more who they are now ha.

we do?


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: Shaulov on July 28, 2017, 02:57:16 PM
i think youre money can gone and lost
because BTC-e founder problem about law, case money laundring

I dont think the gov can take money of customer but there are other problems like... what happenes if the mtgox customers want some of the money back also - how much do BTC-e owners have to cover all this.  The legal mess could mean huge amount of time also.  

OP you need to relax for now, i have had money stuck in gox for years i know how bad you feel but please relax until we know more details.



As i said i was buying ETHERUM to use in the token market, me also never trusted the trading platforms after goxfuck.
for now it its easy to blame me for my stupid reactive, but there is nothing to blame, many peoples use this trading and trust, btc-e making like 200k$ daily, they dont need my 500k$.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: RVRovin on July 28, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
man that's a lot of money to keep on an exchange, seems pretty risky!


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: poordeveloper on July 28, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
Was your account verified or did you at least send wires from accounts in your name?

Make sure to save all information you have about transactions that happened in your account and don't lose access to the email you are registered with at BTC-E.

Even in case the money is confiscated you will be more than likely be refunded by the authorities.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: Shaulov on July 28, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
Was your account verified or did you at least send wires from accounts in your name?

Make sure to save all information you have about transactions that happened in your account and don't lose access to the email you are registered with at BTC-E.

Even in case the money is confiscated you will be more than likely be refunded by the authorities.

I have just verified my account by passport and utility bill.
i never sent any money to banks or from banks, I've used my bitcoins from blockchain wallet to exchange.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: YesLOST on July 28, 2017, 07:11:41 PM
I have $200k on btce and I just need to laugh at people who say for the millionth fucking time that having money on an exchange is stupid. The parrot. Only because USA is saying now, after 6 years, it is illegal, I must believe it? Why it is illegal to trade and exchange bitcoin and other crypto currencies? For what exactly is needed a license and why it cannot be a financial company in let's say New Zealand? Because USA say so? Because criminals are using it? Is a joke, correct, because everything is used by criminals, even corn syrup.

What about btce is the only real Russian site with Russian support? Where do all the Russians go? Do you think they are going to believe some European or USA website?

A Russian in Greece with Cyprus company and Bulgaria/Ukraine hosting has nothing to do with USA. They say otherwise because the world knees down to their unjust bullying.

Next really funny thing: Mtgox user will NEVER get ANYTHING from btce situation. If, and there is 0,0% proof that it happened, the USA kidnapped any of btce's money, the very last thing what is going to happen is to send it to Japan to Karpeles.

An individual is accused of stealing gox money but not the entity btce, well, accused means nothing and this WizSec breaking fake news article is just what it is, some random fake news statement.

If USA is able to kidnap the money, which I very highly doubt, they would auction it off in probably 5 to 10 years. Forget your wet dreams about cheap coins - you call me delusional thinking btce is going to make it back and I call you delusional for thinking gox will get any.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: TheKoziTwo on July 28, 2017, 09:36:06 PM
About 79k here. Will have to give it some more time before further action. If funds have been seized by US government we should demand them returned, but no indication of that yet. 

The real criminals here are the US thugs btw.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: Potent on July 28, 2017, 09:45:15 PM
Dear everyone,

im holding atleast 500,000$ in my btc-e wallet what looks like gone for now.
im holding like 1700 ETH, 35k coins of NVC and 100k coins of NMC.

I heard good and bad news from the Russian side, but i dont know what to believe.
If there another peoples who control the BTC-e website the best for him is to go live back instead of stealing our money what will bring them to a criminal case.

I've also made a verification to BTC-E into XBTCE but they dont take any responsibility for now.

Anyone here also have more then 100K$ into the exchange please inform me so we can act together in any cases.

I hope to get a good news soon. :(

Be calm and don't get panic. you and i can do nothing. Just wait 5-10 days then if no sing of them say goodbye to your money.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: Potent on July 28, 2017, 09:53:11 PM
btc-e making like 200k$ daily, they dont need my 500k$.


They are the only strongest exchange against authorities in the world. We must proud them. Their incoming or My loss is not important here. Their action is more important.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: rme on July 28, 2017, 10:40:38 PM
The seized image is not fake, you can check it archived here: https://archive.is/e3L3o

If you don't see it you have to use Google DNS ( 8.8.8.8 ), open Chrome Incognito, load http://btc-e.com (without HTTPS).



Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: adangold1 on July 28, 2017, 10:44:05 PM
When you read that "SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG" it means GameOver.
Good bye my money  :'( :'(
Whois :

Quote
Domain Name: BTC-E.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1662215628_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.instra.net
Registrar URL: http://www.instra.com
Updated Date: 2017-07-28T17:52:07Z
Creation Date: 2011-06-17T19:24:50Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2024-06-17T19:24:50Z
Registrar: Instra Corporation Pty, Ltd.
Registrar IANA ID: 1376
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverUpdateProhibited
Name Server: 74-208-15-160.SINKHOLE.SHADOWSERVER.ORG
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of whois database: 2017-07-28T22:17:10Z <<<
For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp
NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
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Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: ilia_2s on July 28, 2017, 10:52:20 PM
yes, I confirm. DNS cache will be update about 24h and anybody will see a same image


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: mayax on July 28, 2017, 11:24:18 PM
I have $200k on btce and I just need to laugh at people who say for the millionth fucking time that having money on an exchange is stupid. The parrot. Only because USA is saying now, after 6 years, it is illegal, I must believe it? Why it is illegal to trade and exchange bitcoin and other crypto currencies? For what exactly is needed a license and why it cannot be a financial company in let's say New Zealand? Because USA say so? Because criminals are using it? Is a joke, correct, because everything is used by criminals, even corn syrup.

What about btce is the only real Russian site with Russian support? Where do all the Russians go? Do you think they are going to believe some European or USA website?

A Russian in Greece with Cyprus company and Bulgaria/Ukraine hosting has nothing to do with USA. They say otherwise because the world knees down to their unjust bullying.

Next really funny thing: Mtgox user will NEVER get ANYTHING from btce situation. If, and there is 0,0% proof that it happened, the USA kidnapped any of btce's money, the very last thing what is going to happen is to send it to Japan to Karpeles.

An individual is accused of stealing gox money but not the entity btce, well, accused means nothing and this WizSec breaking fake news article is just what it is, some random fake news statement.

If USA is able to kidnap the money, which I very highly doubt, they would auction it off in probably 5 to 10 years. Forget your wet dreams about cheap coins - you call me delusional thinking btce is going to make it back and I call you delusional for thinking gox will get any.

Yes, it is illegal to run a financial company(who accept and send fiat) without a proper license/MSB/whatever....

You can get a financial license in any country you want but you need a financial license in all the states you want to make business if that country requires that. USA requires that :)

BTC accepted US customers. It's simple. That means they made business "within" USA.

The question is why you have put 200K in a shaddy exchanger instead of using a real forex company who deal with BTC. There are quite few big real FOREX companies who accept BTC. YES, there are forex companies who accept BTC and you can trade there all day/night long.

 I bet you won't have any problem by using them. Nobody will seize you funds, delay the withdrawals and so on. Also, they don't have bank accounts in Mongolia (BTC-e had)  LOL

I really don't understand YOU and others like you. You have really good companies (licensed) but you are using a shit like BTC-e ? why? :)



Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: richardsNY on July 28, 2017, 11:50:28 PM
It seems that the domain has indeed been sized -- reddit is literally exploding right now. I see the difference in the btc-e's whois, but it doesn't yet translate to me seeing that message. As mayax pointed out, it doesn't make any sense to make use of unlicensed exchanges. I feel stupid that I have taken such risks without actually thinking it through properly -- result is me losing the 1 BTC I had in my account there. I have accounts at Bitstamp and Kraken as well, but will not make use of Kraken anymore. I'll happily stick with Bitstamp from now on.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: stompix on July 29, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
About 79k here. Will have to give it some more time before further action. If funds have been seized by US government we should demand them returned, but no indication of that yet. 

The real criminals here are the US thugs btw.

Oh crap , you had money in there Kozi?
Sorry for your "possible" loss, let's say it that way.

But honesty if the coins get seized, what do you plan on doing? Legally?
And I assume this would be the safest bet because if what was left of the admins run away with them they are truly gone.



Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: mayax on July 29, 2017, 06:40:20 AM
It seems that the domain has indeed been sized -- reddit is literally exploding right now. I see the difference in the btc-e's whois, but it doesn't yet translate to me seeing that message. As mayax pointed out, it doesn't make any sense to make use of unlicensed exchanges. I feel stupid that I have taken such risks without actually thinking it through properly -- result is me losing the 1 BTC I had in my account there. I have accounts at Bitstamp and Kraken as well, but will not make use of Kraken anymore. I'll happily stick with Bitstamp from now on.

smart choice


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: TheKoziTwo on July 29, 2017, 10:17:55 AM
I really don't understand YOU and others like you. You have really good companies (licensed) but you are using a shit like BTC-e ? why? :)
I already gave you that answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2045453.msg20432251#msg20432251

About 79k here. Will have to give it some more time before further action. If funds have been seized by US government we should demand them returned, but no indication of that yet. 

The real criminals here are the US thugs btw.

Oh crap , you had money in there Kozi?
Sorry for your "possible" loss, let's say it that way.

But honesty if the coins get seized, what do you plan on doing? Legally?
And I assume this would be the safest bet because if what was left of the admins run away with them they are truly gone.
If the coins gets seized I will look into possibilities to claim my funds from the US mafia. We will have to see what kind of documents they require to release funds or if they will even release funds at all. I prefer if US do not seize the funds as I don't trust them. The best outcome would be if admin on the loose relaunch btc-e on a new domain and allow users to withdraw. I'm hoping for that outcome.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: exstasie on July 29, 2017, 10:23:33 AM
I really don't understand YOU and others like you. You have really good companies (licensed) but you are using a shit like BTC-e ? why? :)
I already gave you that answer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2045453.msg20432251#msg20432251

Also Metatrader, the best trading engine, and the most reliable API on the market. It was a very reliable exchange. Comparing BTC-e to Coinbase/GDAX in terms of uptime, reliability......there's no comparison. BTC-e wins every single time---until now.

I don't understand all the schadenfreude around here. Different people make different risk assessments, and people make mistakes. I wish there was less of this "You guys are idiots, I told you so! ;D" kind of attitude around here.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: stompix on July 29, 2017, 05:06:27 PM
If the coins gets seized I will look into possibilities to claim my funds from the US mafia. We will have to see what kind of documents they require to release funds or if they will even release funds at all. I prefer if US do not seize the funds as I don't trust them. The best outcome would be if admin on the loose relaunch btc-e on a new domain and allow users to withdraw. I'm hoping for that outcome.

Well, good luck with that as nearly 80k is such a large amount.
In case you get your coins back, I suppose we can expect a new song about btce just like you did about mtgox? I would chose "survivor" for the lyrics.



Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: illyiller on July 30, 2017, 03:13:43 AM
If the coins gets seized I will look into possibilities to claim my funds from the US mafia. We will have to see what kind of documents they require to release funds or if they will even release funds at all. I prefer if US do not seize the funds as I don't trust them. The best outcome would be if admin on the loose relaunch btc-e on a new domain and allow users to withdraw. I'm hoping for that outcome.

Unfortunately, they seem to be treating this like Libertyreserve... and I don't think there were any funds released in that case. The way the feds framed this was really messed up... "the entire customer base are criminals and the exchange itself is a money laundering operation" is basically what they've claimed. That doesn't sound like customers have much chance at claiming their funds.

It would be nice if they would relaunch on a new domain, but it would basically be just to let users withdraw. And crypto only -- I can't imagine they will have channels to wire out USD or EUR at this point (nor would you necessarily want that money hitting your bank account).

I have to think it puts the admins at great risk, just to refund people. Noble, but likely? Probably not. :-\

The only bright spot is that they are Russians, so they might just have the balls to do it.... :D


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: Darooghe on July 30, 2017, 01:02:15 PM
btc-e making like 200k$ daily, they dont need my 500k$.


Be smart man. You aren't the only one. there are many people that holding thousands of dollars in BTC-e.
They have almost $100M ETH https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6
They have $177M BTC https://blockchain.info/address/15GSxw5D86JBQ74cUBposYtshSWn6mwTxC
And million of dollars Dash and LTC and Name coins.

I believe they have $500M right now.

500,000,000 / 200,000 = 2500 days
2500 / 365 = 6.8 years

They scam you because they are 7 years frontier than any exchanges now.

Give $500,000 to mafia and find the admins.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: guy_wonderful on July 31, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
don't be afraid. a lot of chance that btc-e had more than 1 operator. probably they are choosing the right one for the position right now. will work back on - shortly. one week from this time. btc-e becomes a btc-e

still, is it right if you hold there, amount of money, more than you can afford to lose? at any exchange?
i was luck that i invested there -+$400 in btc to buy dash and withdraw them few days ago, right before close up.


Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: erk on July 31, 2017, 02:13:01 AM
What's next, does the US gov seize bitcointalk.org because we talk about btc-e.com?

Civil forfeiture seems rampant.







Title: Re: BTC-e.com
Post by: guy_wonderful on July 31, 2017, 02:27:37 AM
What's next, does the US gov seize bitcointalk.org because we talk about btc-e.com?

Civil forfeiture seems rampant.



bitcoitalk does nothing with the fiat, i think.
it's not healthy way to mix cash and crypto, specifically in way btc-e has done.

on https://www.coindesk.com/110-million-btc-e-fined-us-vows-crackdown-unregulated-exchanges/
you can read all the statement.