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Bitcoin => Bitcoin Discussion => Topic started by: evilscoop on May 15, 2013, 03:44:11 AM



Title: omg i laughed at this
Post by: evilscoop on May 15, 2013, 03:44:11 AM
sorry but :-
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bitcoin

the hardware section is worth a giggle


Title: Re: omg i laughed at this
Post by: gmaxwell on May 15, 2013, 04:59:44 AM
It makes me kinda sad.

It says stuff like "The mathematics is robust"  but then says things like "Bitcoin 'mining' was designed to bribe early users with exponentially better rewards" and "spent producing nothing of actual value" which demonstrates that they don't have any clue— in a rather deep and complete way— how it actually works, and thus really have no business saying the mathematics is robust.


Title: Re: omg i laughed at this
Post by: AzureEngineer on May 15, 2013, 05:07:33 AM
Imagine how much energy is wasted transporting physical currency around and compare that to Bitcoin. Doesn't even come close.


Title: Re: omg i laughed at this
Post by: gmaxwell on May 15, 2013, 05:29:55 AM
Imagine how much energy is wasted transporting physical currency around and compare that to Bitcoin. Doesn't even come close.
Indeed— and though Bitcoin certainly has it's own limitations, it's free of quite a few of the classical ones that plague existing and past currencies— it's thoroughly forgery proof, for example— so the cost of preventing and detecting forgeries and the cost of investigations, trials, and imprisonment of forgers is gone.  Bitcoin value can be cheaply protected with cryptography an multi-signature control in a way more robust than any safe or armed guard and while we do depend on energy to secure Bitcoin the energy put in by honest contributors protects everyone's coins rather than protecting just a single vault. ... and not to mention inflation.

But heck even if they don't agree with Bitcoin's advantages, don't see it's applications, and view every flaw as fatal— even if I ignore that they don't offer their own alternative to any of it, and that they seem to miss that all other digital 'cash' like systems have been dead on arrival or rapidly failed— the thing that bothers me isn't that they don't like Bitcoin: there are plenty of reasons not to.  ... it's that they repeat the claim that Bitcoin is technically sound after demonstrating conclusively that they haven't the foggiest clue how it works.   I find that sad and— considering it comes from people who supposedly celebrate rationality— kinda scary.


Title: Re: omg i laughed at this
Post by: Gabi on May 15, 2013, 05:33:14 AM
Imagine how much electricity, energy and bandwidth is wasted for that "rational" wiki  :D


Title: Re: omg i laughed at this
Post by: freedomno1 on May 15, 2013, 05:37:40 AM
Imagine how much electricity, energy and bandwidth is wasted for that "rational" wiki  :D

How irrational that is :)


Title: Re: omg i laughed at this
Post by: Abdussamad on May 15, 2013, 07:05:12 AM
The thing is this sort of argument really convinces people. I first heard about bitcoin in 2011 but I didn't take it seriously because I thought it was a cruel joke on the environment. If I had only looked into it a little more I'd have learned that mining doesn't just generate bitcoins it also verifies transactions and that is what makes it essential. But I didn't and as a result I missed the boat  :'(.


Title: Re: omg i laughed at this
Post by: freedomno1 on May 15, 2013, 07:17:25 AM
Power of fear coercion and negative ads but never heard of it until march so missed the beginning but this is probably still a bit later into the beginning lol