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Title: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: lurker10 on August 02, 2017, 06:28:11 AM
Segwit2x supporting miners will be "heavily influenced" in the next 90 days NOT to raise blocksize to 2 MB.

Some of them will not. Some of them will want to. The former will keep blocksize to 1 MB. The latter will join to mine the Bitcoin cash fork.

At the end of the year BCH fork will have about half of the BTC hashrate and half of the price.

In numbers it will look something like this:

5000 PH/s for BTC, 2500 PH/s for BCH

$3000 for BTC, $1500 for BCH.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: bathrobehero on August 02, 2017, 06:36:03 AM
No way.

The two won't have a combined price of $4500. Especially not with BCH being detrimental to BTC.

I can't see BCH's price increasing, especially when people start dumping. BCH would have to be pumped by a lot of massive players to pump it enough.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: lurker10 on August 02, 2017, 06:39:58 AM
There will be initial dumping, but it makes no difference. The price and hashrate increase will happen when there is a new battle for 2 MB blocksize in November, that is when BTC gets a big secession of hashrate, and BCH gains more value.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Irdina on August 02, 2017, 07:48:56 AM
Nothing is impossible, BCH could be the price to follow BTC, just waiting for the bigger players to pump it.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Mieehayii on August 02, 2017, 08:03:14 AM
$3000 for BTC  :o
you just predict nothing.

the price is almost $3000 now


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: lurker10 on August 02, 2017, 08:36:38 AM
$3000 for BTC  :o
you just predict nothing.

the price is almost $3000 now

How do you mean I predict nothing? Prediction is a prediction. Sorry if I didn't predict moon as you expected.

The $3000 will be a hard nut to crack, with all the uncertainty that is coming, a good chunk of users, hashrate and value migrating to BCH. $3000 will be cracked eventually, but not as fast as you want it to be.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Neo_Coin on August 02, 2017, 08:39:48 AM
Just look to Kraken BCH charts pumping   https://www.kraken.com/charts

 :D :D
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Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: gedor on August 02, 2017, 09:29:47 AM
$150 %5 of the bitcoin price or maybe less than even $50, I don't see it as a hardfork coin, I see it as a altcoin as many big players in the industry see it.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Drnice on August 02, 2017, 09:44:12 AM
If your prediction before the year end is that the price of BCH will be half of BTC, its not bad, but it will push ETH and litecoin very hard, because your prediction means BCH will be among the first five coins and either of ETH and litecoin won't like to give up their position easily.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: four3200 on August 02, 2017, 09:50:38 AM
$176
11% of the Hash Power


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: lurker10 on August 02, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
$176
11% of the Hash Power

Is this your prediction?

With 11% of hash power the price of Bitcoin Cash can't be this low unless some black swan event crashes Bitcoin/Segwit price too.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Neo_Coin on August 02, 2017, 01:03:53 PM
$176
11% of the Hash Power

Is this your prediction?

With 11% of hash power the price of Bitcoin Cash can't be this low unless some black swan event crashes Bitcoin/Segwit price too.

On Kraken 1 BCH=780$. Now.  And they works properly.   ;) ;)


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: dennyd999 on August 02, 2017, 01:17:41 PM
If your prediction before the year end is that the price of BCH will be half of BTC, its not bad, but it will push ETH and litecoin very hard, because your prediction means BCH will be among the first five coins and either of ETH and litecoin won't like to give up their position easily.


Bcash is allready number 3 on Coinmarcetcap with $12,312,302,859..And I dont think that LTC can take it place..Even Ripple is number 4 now.



Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: rayk on August 02, 2017, 01:25:39 PM
Bitcoin cash is better than bitcoin yet bitcoin is the most trusted coin so bitcoin cash will alive but will be less valued than bitcoin everytime.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Red-Apple on August 02, 2017, 02:00:07 PM
i am trying not to speculate about anything in long term regarding bitcoin right now. in short term things will get bumpy for sure. bitcoin price may even see a small dip now.
and then also in the same time BCH will start rising at first until the time when exchanges open deposits and then the panic sells begin and it gets dumped.

i am expecting a rise to $3000 for bitcoin in short term and a big drop in BCH at the same time.

but in long term there is a lot of drama going on which can reverse a lot of these. the SegWit2x and the fact that developers aren't supporting it can be a reason for another big bitcoin dump. and we have seen how altcoins like Dash and ETH and XRP took advantage. now there is a new one called BCH that will take advantage.

then in longer term i will be expecting all the real problems of BCH, the big blocks, the centralization, the bugs in the code, the attacks that it has enabled and made easy, ... all to start to show up and that is when the real dump begins.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: thompshma on August 02, 2017, 02:06:21 PM
Did anybody else LOL when they noticed the BCH logo?


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: jezus on August 02, 2017, 02:10:01 PM
I want to also know prediction btc/bch at end of the year.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: paulreeves on August 02, 2017, 02:22:03 PM
Look at Ethereum, its 15:1 with Ethereum Classic. I don't want to predict the value of BTC in USD, but my guess is the BTC/BCH ratio will be between 5:1 and 10:1.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: dennyd999 on August 02, 2017, 02:33:31 PM
20-30% of BTC price till November.

Than it depends on Segwit2x decision.




Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: turbulence on August 02, 2017, 02:46:26 PM
BTC 1000$
BCH 5$


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: M0N3YMAGNET on August 02, 2017, 03:12:17 PM
If Bitcoin Cash is "better/faster" that means average people want the latest and greatest right? The analogy would be like a Mac vs a PC in price. PS I am a Bitcoin holder. Just throwing in my bit of pessimism.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: bitcoinvestor on August 02, 2017, 03:17:56 PM
It's natural when new coin is launching the price is up, then slowly down. Just wait for one or two weeks. When bitcoin more stable and most exchanger still hold bitcoin and accept it, BCH will slowly down. BCH will be passed by ETH, ETH seem forgoten now but I am sure that ETH will be the second biggest cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: M0N3YMAGNET on August 02, 2017, 03:34:05 PM
We have to remember that the Media plays a role in volatility. If CNBC is saying things like "Bitcoin gets an upgrade" etc this confuses Noobs and Bitcoin Hedge Funds which seem to be popping up day by day.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: ErnieRox on August 02, 2017, 03:36:53 PM
pump and dump bch, nothing more, but i'll take the free moneys  ;D ;D


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: lurker10 on August 02, 2017, 04:45:52 PM
Segwit2x supporting miners will be "heavily influenced" in the next 90 days NOT to raise blocksize to 2 MB.

"Influencing" is starting the very next day of the fork, as predicted :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6r4hgp/adam_back_wants_to_skip_the_2x_part_of_the_ny/

November: the last (hopefully) Bitcoin battle.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: PoorLad on August 02, 2017, 05:07:03 PM
My guess is BTC 3200$ and BCH 40$  :)


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: M0N3YMAGNET on August 02, 2017, 05:41:50 PM
Let's hope so. Isn't this all about mass adoption? We are betting on the tech to take off and if everyone starts using BCH then that's that. But I am in OG Bitcoin camp.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: lurker10 on August 02, 2017, 05:44:57 PM
My guess is BTC 3200$ and BCH 40$  :)

Bitcoin Cash has just processed a block of 4.7MB without any issues.

We've been told many times by Core/Blockstream that anything above 1MB is dangerous.

Bitcoin Cash clearly shows it was a big lie.

Transactions with Bitcoin Cash cost a penny; transactions with Bitcoin/Segwit cost a dollar to send.

More people are going to use Bitcoin Cash because it's so much cheaper, followed by price, followed by hashrate :)


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Amalker on August 02, 2017, 05:49:00 PM
My prediction is BTC ~3400$, and BCH ~30-50$ in the end of 2017.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: bathrobehero on August 03, 2017, 06:00:20 AM
My guess is BTC 3200$ and BCH 40$  :)

Bitcoin Cash has just processed a block of 4.7MB without any issues.

We've been told many times by Core/Blockstream that anything above 1MB is dangerous.

Bitcoin Cash clearly shows it was a big lie.

Transactions with Bitcoin Cash cost a penny; transactions with Bitcoin/Segwit cost a dollar to send.

More people are going to use Bitcoin Cash because it's so much cheaper, followed by price, followed by hashrate :)

I really don't get why people don't get the simple fact that if transactions are super cheap than so is spammig 8 MB or even gigabyte blocks full therefore raising fees.

There has to be a transaction fee market and there's no way around that - which is fine.

8MB blocks might still be dangerous along with the rest of the changes BCH did but the issues might not get unveiled for a long time.



Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: lurker10 on August 03, 2017, 11:27:13 AM
My guess is BTC 3200$ and BCH 40$  :)

Bitcoin Cash has just processed a block of 4.7MB without any issues.

We've been told many times by Core/Blockstream that anything above 1MB is dangerous.

Bitcoin Cash clearly shows it was a big lie.

Transactions with Bitcoin Cash cost a penny; transactions with Bitcoin/Segwit cost a dollar to send.

More people are going to use Bitcoin Cash because it's so much cheaper, followed by price, followed by hashrate :)

I really don't get why people don't get the simple fact that if transactions are super cheap than so is spammig 8 MB or even gigabyte blocks full therefore raising fees.

There has to be a transaction fee market and there's no way around that - which is fine.

8MB blocks might still be dangerous along with the rest of the changes BCH did but the issues might not get unveiled for a long time.



I get the spamming issue. Miners can stop including them in blocks, if the fee is too low, they do the work for the network. If you want a fee market, you pay a fee and get guarantees, spammers with zero or too low fees will be priced out by higher fee txs and rejected by miners.

Bitcoin Cash didn't make any changes but raise the blocksize and it removed dangerous Segwit changes. So it is much safer than Bitcoin/Segwit if more hashrate comes to mine it. With little hashrate is stays vulnerable to 51% attacks.

But I believe more hashrate will come to Bitcoin Cash in November when it is clear that Core/Blockstream has no intention to respect the 2MB blocksize increase of the Segwit2x agreement. Until then Bitcoin Cash will be vulnerable and must hang tight.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: leonix007 on November 11, 2017, 02:21:55 PM
My guess is BTC 3200$ and BCH 40$  :)

Bitcoin Cash has just processed a block of 4.7MB without any issues.

We've been told many times by Core/Blockstream that anything above 1MB is dangerous.

Bitcoin Cash clearly shows it was a big lie.

Transactions with Bitcoin Cash cost a penny; transactions with Bitcoin/Segwit cost a dollar to send.

More people are going to use Bitcoin Cash because it's so much cheaper, followed by price, followed by hashrate :)

I really don't get why people don't get the simple fact that if transactions are super cheap than so is spammig 8 MB or even gigabyte blocks full therefore raising fees.

There has to be a transaction fee market and there's no way around that - which is fine.

8MB blocks might still be dangerous along with the rest of the changes BCH did but the issues might not get unveiled for a long time.



I get the spamming issue. Miners can stop including them in blocks, if the fee is too low, they do the work for the network. If you want a fee market, you pay a fee and get guarantees, spammers with zero or too low fees will be priced out by higher fee txs and rejected by miners.

Bitcoin Cash didn't make any changes but raise the blocksize and it removed dangerous Segwit changes. So it is much safer than Bitcoin/Segwit if more hashrate comes to mine it. With little hashrate is stays vulnerable to 51% attacks.

But I believe more hashrate will come to Bitcoin Cash in November when it is clear that Core/Blockstream has no intention to respect the 2MB blocksize increase of the Segwit2x agreement. Until then Bitcoin Cash will be vulnerable and must hang tight.

Geez, I'd just Dig this issue, seeing how these people implement the plan so perfectly. didn't see that coming. funny.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: david0ikari on November 11, 2017, 02:33:11 PM
Should I sell BTC for BCH ?? I feel people move to BCH massively .


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: mmo_online_1981 on November 11, 2017, 03:33:10 PM
Segwit2x supporting miners will be "heavily influenced" in the next 90 days NOT to raise blocksize to 2 MB.

Some of them will not. Some of them will want to. The former will keep blocksize to 1 MB. The latter will join to mine the Bitcoin cash fork.

At the end of the year BCH fork will have about half of the BTC hashrate and half of the price.

In numbers it will look something like this:

5000 PH/s for BTC, 2500 PH/s for BCH

$3000 for BTC, $1500 for BCH.
I don''t known, but i think we have both BTC and BTC with total price at $10000 in this last year!


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: chohav on November 11, 2017, 03:53:43 PM
Should I sell BTC for BCH ?? I feel people move to BCH massively .

Should you sell gold for gold-plated iron?


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: uobaaagrf on November 11, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
Remember, BCH can never replace BTC, because BCH is altcoin!Unfortunately, the S2X doesn't work well.I don't even know why BCH is going up so quickly that I can't understand it.This is an injury to bitcoin.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: RondoAnyar on November 11, 2017, 04:07:44 PM
Remember, BCH can never replace BTC, because BCH is altcoin!Unfortunately, the S2X doesn't work well.I don't even know why BCH is going up so quickly that I can't understand it.This is an injury to bitcoin.
I also strongly agree that BCH will not replace BTC because BTC is too strong in the world of cryptocurrency. at the end of this year BTC predictions will be very strong in price and BCH will always be below BTC.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: milindabandara on November 11, 2017, 04:23:09 PM
Just found this thread and Read it.  :D

How much unpredictable is this crypto-currency world is.

 ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Maren on November 11, 2017, 06:51:21 PM
My guess is BTC 3200$ and BCH 40$  :)

Bitcoin Cash has just processed a block of 4.7MB without any issues.

We've been told many times by Core/Blockstream that anything above 1MB is dangerous.

Bitcoin Cash clearly shows it was a big lie.

Transactions with Bitcoin Cash cost a penny; transactions with Bitcoin/Segwit cost a dollar to send.

More people are going to use Bitcoin Cash because it's so much cheaper, followed by price, followed by hashrate :)

I really don't get why people don't get the simple fact that if transactions are super cheap than so is spammig 8 MB or even gigabyte blocks full therefore raising fees.

There has to be a transaction fee market and there's no way around that - which is fine.

8MB blocks might still be dangerous along with the rest of the changes BCH did but the issues might not get unveiled for a long time.



I get the spamming issue. Miners can stop including them in blocks, if the fee is too low, they do the work for the network. If you want a fee market, you pay a fee and get guarantees, spammers with zero or too low fees will be priced out by higher fee txs and rejected by miners.

Bitcoin Cash didn't make any changes but raise the blocksize and it removed dangerous Segwit changes. So it is much safer than Bitcoin/Segwit if more hashrate comes to mine it. With little hashrate is stays vulnerable to 51% attacks.

But I believe more hashrate will come to Bitcoin Cash in November when it is clear that Core/Blockstream has no intention to respect the 2MB blocksize increase of the Segwit2x agreement. Until then Bitcoin Cash will be vulnerable and must hang tight.

Geez, I'd just Dig this issue, seeing how these people implement the plan so perfectly. didn't see that coming. funny.

This attack was predicted. BCH can become BTC if it is the longest chain, if the Chinese dump enough BTC and pump BCH they can easily rewrite the BTC chain with 51%, then Core has to change the POW algo and BCH wins.

The only danger big blocks pose is the size of the chain, Satoshi didn't say anything about limiting block size as he thought 1mb blocks would be enough and they still are, unless the Chinese spam them. BTC was not designed to be used for buying coffee worldwide.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: indrakusumaindra on November 11, 2017, 06:55:30 PM
Segwit2x supporting miners will be "heavily influenced" in the next 90 days NOT to raise blocksize to 2 MB.

Some of them will not. Some of them will want to. The former will keep blocksize to 1 MB. The latter will join to mine the Bitcoin cash fork.

At the end of the year BCH fork will have about half of the BTC hashrate and half of the price.

In numbers it will look something like this:

5000 PH/s for BTC, 2500 PH/s for BCH

$3000 for BTC, $1500 for BCH.
my prediction a bit different from yours. bitcoin will stay at 5000 $ and BCH end up around 2000 or 1500 $. and if bch fluctuation same as before it will drop im afraid that would just happen like before.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: NavySeals on November 11, 2017, 06:56:23 PM
Remember, BCH can never replace BTC, because BCH is altcoin!Unfortunately, the S2X doesn't work well.I don't even know why BCH is going up so quickly that I can't understand it.This is an injury to bitcoin.
I also strongly agree that BCH will not replace BTC because BTC is too strong in the world of cryptocurrency. at the end of this year BTC predictions will be very strong in price and BCH will always be below BTC.


Let me list my predictions for BTC and BCH for end of year:

BTC, fiat price: $8,200.

BCH, fiat price: $750.

BCH/BTC price: 0.09.

The fair price would be one tenth of bitcoin, for bitcoin cash or whatever it is.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Jet Cash on November 11, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
Bitcoin cash will always be in the shadows if it keeps that name. If they want to become an established player, they need a catchy name, and now would be a good time to change it. A name like Fast Cash, would be good. :)





Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Netnox on November 11, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
Only 45-50 days are remaining and I am quite bullish on Bitcoin Cash. Here comes my prediction:

BTC prices: $7,000 per coin. I expect BTC to recover a bit during December.

BCH prices: $3,500 per coin and I expect BCH to climb by another 200% during second half of November and December.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: sgenuine on November 12, 2017, 08:37:19 PM
Funny, but only today I have read the article telling us that an American professor of Econimics with Greek name Panos Morducatas has his personal viewpoint on this question. He is sure that BTC will reach $10 K before Christmas and New Year. He is very optimistic about this currency but said nothing about Bitcoin Cash. I am a skeptic in this question. I think BTC won’t reach its last maximum again.


Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: BlockMedx on November 12, 2017, 08:47:41 PM
Remember, BCH can never replace BTC, because BCH is altcoin!Unfortunately, the S2X doesn't work well.I don't even know why BCH is going up so quickly that I can't understand it.This is an injury to bitcoin.
I also strongly agree that BCH will not replace BTC because BTC is too strong in the world of cryptocurrency. at the end of this year [Suspicious link removed] will be very strong in price and BCH will always be below BTC.


Let me list my predictions for BTC and BCH for end of year:

BTC, fiat price: $8,200.

BCH, fiat price: $750.

BCH/BTC price: 0.09.

The fair price would be one tenth of bitcoin, for bitcoin cash or whatever it is.





This is basically the conclusion that I've come to.  I can see this happening and I think it's probably the most likely scenario




Title: Re: *BTC/BCH end-of-year prediction*
Post by: Legendari on November 12, 2017, 09:00:35 PM
Segwit2x supporting miners will be "heavily influenced" in the next 90 days NOT to raise blocksize to 2 MB.

Some of them will not. Some of them will want to. The former will keep blocksize to 1 MB. The latter will join to mine the Bitcoin cash fork.

At the end of the year BCH fork will have about half of the BTC hashrate and half of the price.

In numbers it will look something like this:

5000 PH/s for BTC, 2500 PH/s for BCH

$3000 for BTC, $1500 for BCH.
I wouldn't be so pessimistic. It seems to me that by the end of the year BTC will be worth 9500$ and BCH 2000$