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Title: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 03:11:27 PM It seems rather odd that the person who was hacked hasn't come forth and identified himself.
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: dust on June 21, 2011, 03:15:32 PM The hacked account could not have been a bitcoin wallet, it was an account on mtgox. The first two poll options should be renamed.
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: rocksalt on June 21, 2011, 03:15:44 PM i'd go for silk road
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 03:20:42 PM The hacked account could not have been a bitcoin wallet, it was an account on mtgox. The first two poll options should be renamed. Fixed it. Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: 3phase on June 21, 2011, 03:25:40 PM You didn't put Satoshi as an option.
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 03:27:08 PM Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: tomcollins on June 21, 2011, 03:29:47 PM Why does everyone assume it was a single account that was hacked? Couldn't it have been 50 accounts hacked, transferred to a single hacker account, then executed from there?
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 03:31:35 PM Why does everyone assume it was a single account that was hacked? Couldn't it have been 50 accounts hacked, transferred to a single hacker account, then executed from there? Then the hacker would be the owner of the account. That's one of the reasons I put "The Hacker" in as an option. Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: jerfelix on June 21, 2011, 03:34:13 PM It seems rather odd that the person who was hacked hasn't come forth and identified himself. I can assure you, if it were me, you wouldn't hear me identifying myself publicly.What is there to gain? Sympathy for Mt. Gox? Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: passerby on June 21, 2011, 03:40:26 PM This poll is unamerican. It lacks "CIA" option.
This poll is antisemitic. It lacks "Mossad" option. :p Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: GeniuSxBoY on June 21, 2011, 03:41:33 PM 1) the owner was probably not online in the 50 minutes his account got hacked.
2) the owner probably did not have 500,000 coins in his wallet and were placed there through code vulnerabiity by the hackers 3) mt gox was shut down and the owner locked out. The owner would have no way of knowing his account was hacked. Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 03:44:10 PM It seems rather odd that the person who was hacked hasn't come forth and identified himself. I can assure you, if it were me, you wouldn't hear me identifying myself publicly.What is there to gain? Sympathy for Mt. Gox? If MtGox hadn't decided to do a roll-back, and it was your account that was hacked, would you have gone public? Remember, there was a period of time between the alleged hack and the decision to roll back. Would you have been satisfied merely complaining to MtGox privately until the decision to roll back was made? Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 03:45:37 PM This poll is unamerican. It lacks "CIA" option. This poll is antisemitic. It lacks "Mossad" option. :p "Government Agency of some sort" added... ;D Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: passerby on June 21, 2011, 03:47:17 PM You can also add "Yakudza(sp?)"/"Some criminal organization" there ;D
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: dayfall on June 21, 2011, 03:49:33 PM Lacks "Total idiot" option
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 03:50:11 PM 1) the owner was probably not online in the 50 minutes his account got hacked. 2) the owner probably did not have 500,000 coins in his wallet and were placed there through code vulnerabiity by the hackers 3) mt gox was shut down and the owner locked out. The owner would have no way of knowing his account was hacked. I understand what you're suggesting. Added "Random User w/SQL injection" as option... Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: dana.powers on June 21, 2011, 04:16:38 PM Random User w/ SQL Injection appears the most probable. Answers the obvious question of why the hell would anyone keep 500,000 BTC on mtgox: they wouldn't. the "BTC" were likely created out of thin air via malicious SQL statement.
Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: tomcollins on June 21, 2011, 04:18:19 PM Why does everyone assume it was a single account that was hacked? Couldn't it have been 50 accounts hacked, transferred to a single hacker account, then executed from there? Then the hacker would be the owner of the account. That's one of the reasons I put "The Hacker" in as an option. It could have been a hacker that was using someone else's account that was just the one they dumped into. Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 05:12:57 PM You can also add "Yakudza(sp?)"/"Some criminal organization" there ;D Yakuza? The Japanese mafia? Nice... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: AbeSkray on June 21, 2011, 06:01:27 PM It seems rather odd that the person who was hacked hasn't come forth and identified himself. I can assure you, if it were me, you wouldn't hear me identifying myself publicly.What is there to gain? Title: Re: Who do you think the owner was of the hacked account? Post by: Epinnoia on June 21, 2011, 09:59:00 PM It seems rather odd that the person who was hacked hasn't come forth and identified himself. I can assure you, if it were me, you wouldn't hear me identifying myself publicly.What is there to gain? Once again, there was a period of time between the alleged hack and the decision to do the roll-back. You would have not said a word publicly during that period of time? You would have been satisfied that MtGox was going to 'make it right' without even knowing they would do a roll-back? Why? And why presume ridicule or hatred if the hack was no fault of your own? Speaking for myself, if I had even a thousand dollars worth of bitcoins trapped/lost in an exchange, I would have raised some very public holy hell. It's only through open conversation that others might be made aware of the situation, beyond what MtGox is willing to provide. And, quite frankly, you cannot simply presume that MtGox is giving the whole truth, or even any portion of the truth. MtGox has said that they'd be responsible for 'gross negligence' only. And supposing that gross negligence did take place, how much might MtGox twist reality in order to keep you from seeing the evidence of that negligence? If the auditor account was used to hack the system, and/or dump the usernames/hashed passwords, etc., then the auditor account likely was granted more access to the database than was necessary for the performance of their audit. That's negligence on the part of the database admin....and quite possibly rises to the level of gross negligence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_negligence |