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I have btc and also bought waves.  However i feel like i want to have a lot of waves.


I posted in a thread asking would it be a good idea to trade all my btc for ETH and almost everyone said no that is bad idea.  Well what about waves? 


Which idea is worst?  Trading most or all of my btc for ETH or waves?

No offence - but literally you must do your own research and figure out what you want for the short, medium and long term. ETH has potential to grow quite a few times more if you ask me, and in some sense may be a more secure bet. But WAVES has a much higher potential in the long term, but that depends whether you are willing to sit with, say, 10k of your money in a risky asset over a number of years.

Watching the trends I don't feel all that concerned trading Bitcoin out for altcoins at the moment. Bitcoin is fluctuating around the same peak so, if it shows signs of really springing into life again, you will have ample warning to throw your altcoins back into it.

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Trading all of your btc depends on how much you actually have, if you have alot then dumping it all for one coin is not a good idea, try finding at least 5-10 coins that you think is either undervalued or have a good team and a good potential to grow. Waves is a good project, i think it has potential since alot of assets are based on it, i'd also check burst and GNT.

You should do it, waves can increase its value so much, it is very new compared to bitcoin however you should have some bitcoin.

I found many ICO and startup use Waves,
it seems the application of Waves may compete with other similar coin.
Waves also had higher value before current FUD hype,.... looks promising

If you have everything in BTC, I'd spread it out by putting some (but not all) in alts. A week or two ago I was saying buy neo (ans) and waves because they had been hit so hard in the whole market dip. Now however they have both risen 40% in the last week, so I'd be wary of buying them now. Best time to buy an alt is when it has fallen and is starting to recover. Of course neo and waves may continue to rise, but equally they might fall back a bit in the short term.

Waves looks really promising. I especially like the DEX, the decentralized exchange. And the many ICOs using it can't be wrong. It overall brings more attention to it and is a good thing I think

Wave has a great potential for growth and the early you convert some of your Bitcoin to wave  the better.  I think bitcoin has it inherent value and we hold it because of this inherent value! But there are many new coin that are performing very well too and there can give greater and quick return than bitcoin.

just test the water first. never put your btc to waves all at once but try to put an ample amount in which you can afford to loose and you have a patience to wait like 2 years to see for a greater results. waves is a good investment for a long term where such a price stability is quite attractive to long term investors.

"I feel like I want to have a lot of waves."

Sorry, but "feelings" are the last thing you need when trading your money.

All the matters is REALITY... NOT how you "feel". I am not being harsh just letting you know that maybe you should hold on to your Bitcoin as it has the most potential of going up out of all the coins.

This clearly just depends on your risk appetite. Try the WAVES plattform yourself. In my opinion, it's way better and easier than lots of other projects out there. You may create your own token in less than 3 minutes. The possibilities of this is huge. Get some money in.

If you want to sleep well invest %50 of your money in bitcoin and %50 in waves, what is your priorities? invest according to them

Ask your self, can waves reach $10 by year end. Also can BTC reach $10k by year end. Which seems more likely?

It's all about ROI.

Why do you want other peoples opinion anyways? If I were in your place I would want to keep my btc as is and HODL them and if possible leave them and forget them and get back until a couple of years. For waves, if you really want more waves then I would suggest for you to buy more waves if that's the case.

Well it is not a bad idea to convert your bitcoin to waves to have many because it has a lot of potential. It got many good updates now and there's still upcoming ones so it still has a lot more room to grow. Even if that is the case I wouldn't say it is an entirely good idea because you can get better returns in btc and easier. Just hold, forget then come back after 4 years or so.

You can understand Bitcoin as USD and Ethereum, Waves as JPY, CNY, CAD ... on Forex market. Do you know trader always need have USD if they want trading in future? So, if you can understand thay, this is the answer for your question, don't putting all to one place.

By all means buy some alts, but don't get rid of your bitcoins.

They are the gold standard of crypto.

I think you can but it's better not to sell them all , BTC is still ,, the father of all the cryptocurrencies" , so keep some BTC ,and  a smaller part you can change it in Waves.

But this is not a good time to buy altcoin. Wait a little bit more until the chart of altcoin gets red paint. As far as I know the best coin is omisego and stratis. But the waves movement still to be difficult to be predicted by everyone.
But it should be considered as a good idea too.

Well it depends case by case

First of all

Are you one which can take risk?

If yes you can do it

The reason why is because although waves seems to have a better platform with better function, bitcoin is still the main currency that everyone is using. Therefore when market goes on bearish, BTC will always hold stronger than other coins (Case by case)

Waves has a great Client which offer DEX, leasing, Transfer and sort of other good feature

The issue is i do not have that much money to buy waves.  If i did, i would just buy waves now...


The thing with bitcoin is i still want to hold it because it went up a lot and i think it would go up more.

I think its much more likely waves will hit 10 dollars before btc hits 10k.  I dont think this is even close.   The other thing is the amount of bitcoins vs waves.  I mean, its hard for anyone to have much bitcoins unless they have a lot of money to invest or kept bitcoin from a while back and just held on to them.



But with waves... its very cheap to get them.  Because imagine you could get bitcoin at 5 dollars or 10 dollars per coin.  You would be rich if you bought a lot of them and held on to them.  So if the same thing happens to waves... well you know what i mean.



Does anyone here agree/disagree its much more likely waves hit 10 dollars than btc hitting 10k?  I dont think its close.  I think the odds of waves hitting 25 dollars is higher than bitcoin hitting 10k first.  Thoughts on that?

Well to be fair Bitcoin would only need to hit $6,000 to double in value which would be the same as waves hitting $10. I could actually see both coins hitting these values yet this year.

Anyway, from reading your replies to almost everyone in this thread, it seems you really believe in Waves, so why not just go with your gut and invest in what you are comfortable with instead of asking everyone else.

Well i am just going by what im reading.  Most ppl in the threads mention waves is good.  So my thoughts would be hey anything 10 dollars and below has to be a good buy right?  There are ppl say that say it might be the next ETH.  Now imagine waves explodes like ETH does and goes up to 200 dollars.  Then i would thought why did i not get more waves like i want to.  The thing is as the price gets higher and higher, i get less waves.  Yes the price is pretty cheap now... but its not cheap if you want to buy a lot of it.   Im curious but what has changed with waves when it was 25 cents compared to now.  Did their website still look like it is now?  Because if it did, im sure i would have bought waves a while back if its 25 cents a coin.  The thing is i didn't really look into altcoins much at all until i noticed bitcoin went up a lot etc.  I knew about litecoin but that was it.  I dont think i even heard about ETH as well.  So if bitcoin didn't went up a lot, i wouldn't even have checked these coins.  I didn't even know there was altcoins until bitcoin went up a lot and then i noticed hey theres an altcoin discussion on this forum etc.

Why don't you just settle with BTC, mate? The price is fast up high. But yes, you can invest on waves, there is a great potential for that coin. ETH is also great for investment. Their price is also getting higher and higher for now. Although there are ETH haters, the market for ETH is so far profitable.

Well the thing is i dont have that much bitcoin.  Thats the reason.  And how much can bitcoin really go up?  I mean if you want to double your money, i believe the chance of an altcoin that is 10 dollars and under doubling is much higher than bitcoin doubling now.  I mean its already so high etc.  I heard about ETH and read good things about it.  However the issue is aren't ETH and waves and stratis all competitors though?  I believe waves and stratis are? 


So if that is the case, wouldn't it not make sense to have waves and ETH or waves and stratis etc?  Because they are competitors, could they both each go up at the same time?  I heard Waves might be the next ETH.  I heard that as well with stratis but not so much.

I dont know if we separate one and other coins as competitor
I have ETH and I will hunt more Waves as both of them are growing and it seems the market is optimistic now.

I dont think we have to choose only one and we can not have the pther one.
It is a very good opportunity as they are  ot really mature, even ETH ll still grow too

people can only gives their advice to you but you need to make decision. i think eth and waves is a good coins for investment as long as you can buy in low price and don't buy if the price is increase. maybe you can split your bitcoin for buying etherum and waves so you have 2 coins in each wallet. i think that two altcoin will increase soon.

Bitcoin , ethereum and waves coin is have potential to increase more in the future. But if you want to convert all your bitcoin in waves I uggest dont do that its better if you invest only your 20-40 percent of your bitcoin. Because bitcoin for sure will increase more in the future.

Well you want to invest with hope that one day you can sell your coins and get some dollars of it, or you feel more like supporting the cryptocurrency and hope one day you will use this acquired coins to buy your groceries.

With bitcoin you can feel kind of safe that it's price will raise and it's the most known and used coin so it's the one that will probably be used in the future if we get to enjoy the era of one world currency being used in everyday transactions. However don't count on it for high profit anymore as it's already 3000 per coin so if it hits price of 100k per coin you only multiply your money 30 times, so you basically wait ten years to get $100 into $3000.

With waves, and in fact with most altcoins right now you hope for that "buy now for few cents sell later for few thousands and wake up a millionaire." The question is whether you've made good research in your coin, you stand behind this idea and you actually hope and pray for it to explode.

So it's a matter of stability and sureness yet small profit or risk of not getting much but chance of maybe waking up rich one day.

It is really hard for people to answer this completely. You should buy waves if you have confidence.
We cannot clearly give accurate advices, crypto bizness is too hard to predict.

I think waves has a lot of potential to gain price. Waves has active devs and many ICO's now using their platform thats why I think it would be huge someday.

Personally i would buy waves with the Bitcoin yes.

The Market cap on waves is around 500m, if it hits ethereums current levels in say 2 years (By that point ethereum would have hit its own new levels) it would have gone up in price 40x moving it into the $150 range.

Obviously its all speculation but i think Waves having a market cap of 20t is possible one day if it keeps improving its exchanges and gets more companies to sign up to partnerships (Delloite, Russian banks etc)

Hey guys i notice waves has went up a lot.  Of course i didnt buy any during this.  The other thing was i bought some litecoin a while back as well.  Would you say trading my litecoin for waves is probably a better idea?  The issue is i got litecoin for around 50 dollars or so which means if i trade it now, i will have a loss on litecoin.  The thing though is it seems like nothing is happening with litecoin at all.  The price has stayed the same for a long time and nothing is happening.  Would you say trading my litecoin for waves is probably better idea?  However, does anyone here think litecoin will ever go up a lot?  Because then my thoughts would be... hey i had litecoin as well but then traded it for waves.  Im thinking that litecoin will take a long time to go up or down right?  Because it doesn't seem to be doing anything at all when you look at it.  It seems like litecoin isn't gaining much or losing that much if you know what i mean.

Both btc and waves is sky rocketing for the last three days, yet it's a hard decission to take. I would keep my bitcoin honestly. Can't trust waves that much in these days.

Many people say buy Waves, but that alone can be a red flag. The coin is interesting, that's for sure. Go scrutinize the road map and ask yourself if you think the developers are progressing at an acceptable pace, then decide.

not even a question , waves has much more room to grow  ::)

i think before you make decision to buy waves, you need to search more about the coins by read the news about them or watching in the market and analyze the price. without doing this and you only follow from other people, you can not make a good profit and beside that you can waiting too long to make profit.

yes. you have to buy more and more waves. I bought and I am happy. Who ever buys waves, ends up happy  ;D

looking at the graphics makes me happier

And the knowledge not difficult for seach, you can starting seach it on Google, then find ANN thread of Waves for update information about this coin every day. Even you can check the mentality of trader, holder this coin from ANN thread, this is my expericence before decision hold an altcoin in long term.

Put your Bitcoins where you can get more Bitcoins. at  the moment waves is doing a good job at multiplying bitcoins, dso buy waves now is a good idea

May not be right to buy a wave now because in my opinion the price of waves is now too high.
If you bought it last week maybe you will benefit from waves now.
See ETH price looks cheap if you buy it now.

Rate Waves today is only 150k, we have seen Waves sitting above 200k. Confident in Waves, and achieve better profits. And buying ETH is a great idea. Because ETH is the best potential altcoin as an investment gives very good gain in the future.

Lets invest that we can earn profit of bitcoin. Investing in waves is for sure we can earn or grow our bitcoin. As the price is cheap now and it is good for a long term investment.

I think you should more waves than bitcoin. It is gonna be just similar to Ethereum. Very good dev team and lot of new projects, icos.

It depends on how much you have, if you have only one bitcoin, then you can make a 40% waves 40% other alts and 20% of bitcoin, it is a good profitable scenario for example.
If you have more, then you will to research on your own and decide what do you want in time/price
also it is not good to invest all into one alt, because suddenly it can drop and you can lose everything, so always diversify your portfolio, also it will probably make you to have more profits.
Good luck
i am looking for buying some waves next weeks

Thoughts on this?  Im considering this mainly because btc price is very high now and i could get good amount of waves as the price hasn't went up that much yet.

is some good news coming fot waves?
i dont think its a good idea to go all in in waves

Apparently, WAVES is on a weak performance right now, but you can buy now and get that opportunity, I believe that WAVES can go up higher than it's highest record but it will take a lot of time before WAVES get there, so as of now, if you really choose to invest while Bitcoin is on a good rally, Invest on AltCoins you think have the potential to go higher , trading your BTC to WAVES is not recommended as of now but if you're good on Long Term Investment, then I will advice you to continue on trading your BTC to WAVES.

Think when the Christmas bug sets in and everybody's selling out, that would be the best time to surf up some Waves

you have to think about it well if you want to get into waves, because waves are different from ethereum and waves still not too crowded like ethereum. so you still have a good choice.

Even if in present altcoins are in a growing trend, i think that 2% growth of bitcoin it is not same for 2% in waves. Now depends if you want to buy for long/short period of time.

If I were you I just hodl those bitcoins as is if you have the plan to trade it to waves and hodl in long term so just let it be bitcoins since bitcoins is much stable invesstment than waves.

Still selling out Bitcoin for waves is not a good idea. It might give benefit to the holder for that time but in the long run he will be really in loss. Waves is a good crypto coin but we all know that bitcoin is the best when it comes to producing profits.

At least, I would never do that. Even if the price of Bitcoin falls down, I know it will rise up very soon and cross all the previous peaks. I'm not against selling out of Bitcoin but I am strongly against selling bitcoin out permanently.

A very bad idea if you have a BTC and buy lots of waves, the waves are pretty good for the future. But for now the waves have not developed, and for now I think ETH is very promising. Because as we see a lot of new tokens appear and ETH token market already exists, but as we know only bitcoin is still the best.

Keep in mind the any market is volatile. I would suggest you dont invest all your btc to waves. Maybe a portion of it will do.

Nah there are different ways to get waves than buying it with your BTC,

The most reliable coin is bitcoin. And if you took them below $ 1,000 it can be anywhere the money is not invested. Keep your bitcoins, and almost every week you will do x 11, 12, 13, 14. thousand, and so on

If i were you i would buy waves with a little portion of bitcoin. Because waves will probably be something like ethereum and that means 100x.

Although Waves is a big coin to invest, I dont think you should sell BTC for waves. In my opinion, let invest in ICOs. Spectre is an excample

Sell high buy low. So do it (;
BTC party is nearly over, its time for the alts and waves is in a very good position. Public beta is going to be released in less than two weeks (:

In the event that you need to purchase waves for long-term holding, its opportune time entering in waves, Nice dev team and lot of new projects hope waves going to moon very soon

Waves is also a good investment even the price is affordable. I prefer to invest both eth and waves so still depends on you to diversify your funds. Also because btc is good to hold the price is increasing.

Don't ever do that or else you'll regret it with your life but if you really want to buy just use some of your bitcoin but don't go all in. You're like exchanging gold to silver and remember not to put all your eggs in one basket.
Personally, I prefer eth over waves as I see much brighter future with eth but just to make all this work just diversity it with eth and waves.

I wonder when this investment will make a profit? I look at the price chart and see only the decline. But I do not see the reason for the growth to start again. The project is not developing now

I think you should hold your bitcoin as wave has not been doing very well this days. Exchanging bitcoin for any of the cryptocurrency is not ideal now as of lately nor of them has outperform bitcoin. I think holding your bitcoin is the best thing any trader should do and there many speculation that bitcoin price will be above $40,000 by December next year, 2018. Wave on the others hand is a Russia project and Russia governments has banned altcoins and ico and this is affecting its price.

Most of the time whenever bitcoin rallies altcoins go down.

Even tho waves is one of the better projects out there I'd still stick to bitcoin. U can sell some % of ur BTC and invest it into waves.

I am not trying to suggest anyone to invest their Bitcoins so that they could have waves either. Bitcoin is gaining value faster than waves is.

Never trade all your BTC, just a percentage. I would always hold at least 50% in BTC. It's so easy for the altcoin market to get left behind if things like lightening start moving forward. BTC is king.

I would not trade my bitcoin for anything. Bitcoin will only get better and better with time. Yes waves is a promising coin but there is no safer and guaranteed investment then bitcoin. If you have some other alt coins you can trade them for waves.

of course you can, thanks to the waves you will be even richer. can be

will depend on the amount you have, for example:
If you own 5 Bitcoin, put 1 Bitcoin in waves
20% of what you own, a means of diversifying, remembering that is my opinion and strategy.

Well if you think waves would go up to say 25 dollars... then wouldn't this be an easy choice since 5x with bitcoin will be very hard and/or it take a lot faster for waves to do it?


Also what do you all think about trading my bitcoin cash and/or gold for waves then?  Would that be better idea?  Right now i dont want to trade btc mainly because if you keep btc... you get coins from the upcoming forks etc.  Thus if you had no btc... you would not have gotten bitcoin cash and gold etc.  And also because people say bitcoin will only go up etc. 

I don't think that you need to trade your bitcoin for waves. Waves is of course good coin but bitcoin is too valuable to dump and buy just another altcoin in my opinion. That's it.

I disagree with your argument saying waves is just another altcoin. It has working platform and it's being used by its community without problem. They keep developing their platform and it will be better. I would buy waves with my bitcoin personally.

No you should not! bitcoin is the ultimate coin and you should never exchange it to some shitcoin. If you want to trade, trade it for etheruem which is far more better than waves.

Ah for sure :D... bitcoin is everything.... I'll give you a tip, dont compare what is totally different. Has bitcoin its own exchange? No? Do I say its scam/Shit now?

Nowadays you should done it with part of your bitcoin wallet cause you will probably earn some in next one month counted from today.

My suggestion to him will be nothing different from yours. If someone does this then that is even more insane than gambling.  Ok sorry, I exaggerated a little bit but still I am not in favor of selling out Bitcoin for the sake of waves. It is not like that I don't see any potential in waves but honestly no altcoins worth selling out of Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is the best of the best when it comes to earning profit. My sincere advice is to reconsider such plans.

Okay so most people say don't do it.  However the situation is different if i have usd and i want to buy waves right?  Thus not touching the original btc that im holding?  For example i would use my usd to buy bitcoin and then immediately trade it for waves.  Thus i need btc to buy waves.  That would be different then right?  Thus this would be buying waves as oppose to trading my btc for waves eventhough i need to get btc to buy waves right?

It would really be just like suicide if you do decide to put or convert all of your bitcoin holdings just to buy waves.Its a dumb thing to do since we cant still be sure if this WAVES would decide to pump out or not. Its not bad to invest but just get a small proportion of your bitcoin and then put it on waves just like a form of diversification of your money not totally switching without any strong basis.If you do compare it to BTC then it would really be just like a dust.

not for now,, hold your BTC, maybe altcoin will going deeper than this moment until the end of this years,,
and you can buy waves in cheaper price

If you are hold Bitcoin now, you should not sell them for waves now. Because the Bitcoin price is going up. After the hard forks, you will get free coins and get profit. That is the good moment to sell Bitcoin and trade Waves

If you had done it a week ago then waves would have been a good investment. It has started to rise now, not sure how long it will last or high it will go but the roadmap looks good. Waves overall is a good investment, but bitcoin is very bullish right now so it's a tough call.

Many altcoins value have increased as like waves. Its still the right time to buy waves but not with bitcoin. Buy waves with other currency. As you might be aware that bitcoin is booming up as a rocket. It has reached $17 K plus. What else to say. Hold the BTC you have and gain more profit.

Im confused here.  You say buy waves with another currency.  The thing is if you have usd and want to buy waves... well you could either buy bitcoin or eth to buy waves.  Thus you need bitcoin or eth as a medium to buy waves.  So does it really matter here?  Because my question was like if you could buy waves with usd... well isn't that the same as buying btc and then converting it to waves?  Because you are essentially buying waves.  Or am i incorrect here?   Now if you have btc and eth... and want to convert some of those to waves, okay i understand what mean.  But in my example, you want to buy waves.  So arent u going to have to get btc to buy waves