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Title: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: c0inbuzter on August 04, 2017, 10:33:15 PM
I'm looking for a places where I can invest bitcoins with high leverage.

It should be something reliable and use well known derivative instruments like futures, options, forex, etc.
My personal preference for short term investments.

I'm using liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com) but I need larger bids.

Any suggestions?


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: Tipstar on August 05, 2017, 07:54:08 AM
I'm looking for a places where I can invest bitcoins with high leverage.

It should be something reliable and use well known derivative instruments like futures, options, forex, etc.
My personal preference for short term investments.

I'm using liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com) but I need larger bids.

Any suggestions?

Try investing in bankroll of casinos or of coin mixers for short terms.
They provide about 50% ROI yearly on your coin and most of the time can withdraw at any time.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: warningsigns on August 08, 2017, 01:47:42 AM
Reputable mixers, yes.

Casinos, definitely no. These online casinos are without exception scammers. They can do and say all they want in defense of their "integrity" or "provably fair" claims, it doesn't change anything in the fact that the house almost always wins. Always, in fact.

In the rare event that you win on these casinos, withdrawing your coins makes climbing Mt Everest seem like an easier task.

I do not recommend investing or injecting funds in any of these cryptocasinos.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: mrcash02 on August 08, 2017, 03:27:29 AM
Reputable mixers, yes.

Casinos, definitely no. These online casinos are without exception scammers. They can do and say all they want in defense of their "integrity" or "provably fair" claims, it doesn't change anything in the fact that the house almost always wins. Always, in fact.

In the rare event that you win on these casinos, withdrawing your coins makes climbing Mt Everest seem like an easier task.

I do not recommend investing or injecting funds in any of these cryptocasinos.

I have no problems with casinos and I haven't seen anyone having problems with them. The investments in casinos are very profitable at this moment.

If OP wants a high leverage investment he should look for casino investments, YoloDice allows you to invest up to x10 leverage! What means if the house loses 10% of their bankroll you lose all your money... That is a risky deal, but there are all the other leverage's options to adapt your investment to your personality. Good luck!


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: c0inbuzter on August 08, 2017, 10:46:26 AM
Casinos is biased , I'm statistician. Need thinks that I can build prediction model for.

I prefer financial markets.

I'm shocked, no answers here. There no people who does leveraged trading ?


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 08, 2017, 01:13:57 PM
Reputable mixers, yes.

Casinos, definitely no. These online casinos are without exception scammers. They can do and say all they want in defense of their "integrity" or "provably fair" claims, it doesn't change anything in the fact that the house almost always wins. Always, in fact.

In the rare event that you win on these casinos, withdrawing your coins makes climbing Mt Everest seem like an easier task.

I do not recommend investing or injecting funds in any of these cryptocasinos.
Not at all because there are reputable casinos which dont really have any problems regarding on accepting investments and as a part of the risk you should really be ready on that since not all do last forever and knowing bitcoin gambling sites do give small amounts on return on monthly basis which wont really give you interest if you are really longing for big profits.Mixers would be a good choice too.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: TraderCal11 on August 09, 2017, 07:40:14 PM
I'm in at bitconnect.co. It's likely some form of Ponzi but I get everything back in 100 days from the 1% daily return anyways. They've been around about 2 years I think? Tried to do some research on this forum but nobody has really shared their experience I think.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: c0inbuzter on August 10, 2017, 09:31:34 AM
I'm in at bitconnect.co. It's likely some form of Ponzi but I get everything back in 100 days from the 1% daily return anyways. They've been around about 2 years I think? Tried to do some research on this forum but nobody has really shared their experience I think.

Thanks, this sounds more interesting than casino anyway.
However I'm looking something were I have a full control of my investments.

I need something similar to this site: liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com) 


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: SirLancelot on August 10, 2017, 12:19:10 PM
Reputable mixers, yes.

Casinos, definitely no. These online casinos are without exception scammers. They can do and say all they want in defense of their "integrity" or "provably fair" claims, it doesn't change anything in the fact that the house almost always wins. Always, in fact.

In the rare event that you win on these casinos, withdrawing your coins makes climbing Mt Everest seem like an easier task.

I do not recommend investing or injecting funds in any of these cryptocasinos.
I’m not into all these investment and casinos stuffs, and do you know why? Because they’re all mostly scams. All I see online is just a bunch of criminals claiming to be legit or whatever. I better do casinos real life than online. So it’s left for you, do you want to do it? Then you can go on. But I will advise you not to get into casinos, you’re better off with investment sites, because you can at least find some legit ones.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: c0inbuzter on August 14, 2017, 11:55:53 AM
That what I'm looking for. Reputable investment sites!

This thread is open for ten days already but even no one was recommended.

I suspect that people simply don't want to share their success stories. It is known paranoia in financial world: if you make profits - someone else loses, if some one else profits - you loses.   
Nowadays however bitcoin market is so big so that no need to worry there is enough profit for everyone.

Please share information about reliable places!



Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: mrcash02 on August 15, 2017, 02:36:29 AM
That what I'm looking for. Reputable investment sites!

This thread is open for ten days already but even no one was recommended.

I suspect that people simply don't want to share their success stories. It is known paranoia in financial world: if you make profits - someone else loses, if some one else profits - you loses.   
Nowadays however bitcoin market is so big so that no need to worry there is enough profit for everyone.

Please share information about reliable places!



Well, seems you have said the answer above: Leverage trading.

Surely there are many people who won't share their methods, they are making profit in secret and won't tell anyone about it, if many people start following these methods, it would become dryed, worthless, unprofitable.

And the well known methods don't delight you.  :D


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: c0inbuzter on August 15, 2017, 01:01:59 PM
I can share my experience with liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com)

Can someone share experience with a derbit.com (http://deribit.com)  ?


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: venera on August 16, 2017, 01:38:58 PM
I can share my experience with liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com)

Can someone share experience with a derbit.com (http://deribit.com)  ?

Both of them are good.
The deribit.com is relatively new and it is for a long term investments
The liberoptions.com is for short tem leveraged trading. You can mage 80% profit in few minutes.

For Deribit you need to be experienced even may be professional trader. You need some funds to do something serious.

At Liberoptions.com you can start even with pennys to get a taste and then gradually move to a serious investment.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: condoras on August 17, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
I can share my experience with liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com)

Can someone share experience with a derbit.com (http://deribit.com)  ?

Both of them are good.
The deribit.com is relatively new and it is for a long term investments
The liberoptions.com is for short tem leveraged trading. You can mage 80% profit in few minutes.

For Deribit you need to be experienced even may be professional trader. You need some funds to do something serious.

At Liberoptions.com you can start even with pennys to get a taste and then gradually move to a serious investment.


Neither of them are Investment sites or have any kind of investment option. They are binary/Forex trading sites like so many others...
For sure you can make 80% or more profit on them in a few minutes but you can also loose the same percentage in less than a few minutes.
That's for sure, is not an investment.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: c0inbuzter on August 18, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
I can share my experience with liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com)

Can someone share experience with a derbit.com (http://deribit.com)  ?

Both of them are good.
The deribit.com is relatively new and it is for a long term investments
The liberoptions.com is for short tem leveraged trading. You can mage 80% profit in few minutes.

For Deribit you need to be experienced even may be professional trader. You need some funds to do something serious.

At Liberoptions.com you can start even with pennys to get a taste and then gradually move to a serious investment.


Neither of them are Investment sites or have any kind of investment option. They are binary/Forex trading sites like so many others...
For sure you can make 80% or more profit on them in a few minutes but you can also loose the same percentage in less than a few minutes.
That's for sure, is not an investment.


What is investment in your opinion then ? (Putting your money to a bank? Holding bitcoins and expecting that they will grow infinitely? )


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: magneto on August 19, 2017, 12:13:36 AM
I can share my experience with liberoptions.com (http://liberoptions.com)

Can someone share experience with a derbit.com (http://deribit.com)  ?

Both of them are good.
The deribit.com is relatively new and it is for a long term investments
The liberoptions.com is for short tem leveraged trading. You can mage 80% profit in few minutes.

For Deribit you need to be experienced even may be professional trader. You need some funds to do something serious.

At Liberoptions.com you can start even with pennys to get a taste and then gradually move to a serious investment.


Neither of them are Investment sites or have any kind of investment option. They are binary/Forex trading sites like so many others...
For sure you can make 80% or more profit on them in a few minutes but you can also loose the same percentage in less than a few minutes.
That's for sure, is not an investment.


What is investment in your opinion then ? (Putting your money to a bank? Holding bitcoins and expecting that they will grow infinitely? )

Actually, yes. My primary strategy is to hold at least 30% of my entire wealth in bitcoin, because this is what i believe in.

If you are looking for ways to earn interest on your existing bitcoin, look into some of the securities offered here. For instance, a good one would be to invest in bitcoin casinos and fund their bankroll, in order to get a share of the profits.

obviously, profits aren't going to come guaranteed. I would say if you use kelly on your bankroll investments you could well see 50%+ returns per annum, with medium risk since it is almost impossible for anyone to even win just 10% of the bankroll at one time.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: c0inbuzter on August 22, 2017, 02:33:19 PM
Actually, yes. My primary strategy is to hold at least 30% of my entire wealth in bitcoin, because this is what i believe in.

I did it in the past .... one day bitcoin will fall . And selling it will be impossible. It need to hedged.

To hedge it you need financial tools like options, future contracts and others.

I'm not talking about investment into a business.

The investment I'm talking about is a speculation on prices of other securities to protect my wealth.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: condoras on August 22, 2017, 09:50:00 PM
Actually, yes. My primary strategy is to hold at least 30% of my entire wealth in bitcoin, because this is what i believe in.

I did it in the past .... one day bitcoin will fall . And selling it will be impossible. It need to hedged.

To hedge it you need financial tools like options, future contracts and others.

I'm not talking about investment into a business.

The investment I'm talking about is a speculation on prices of other securities to protect my wealth.

Telling that some day bitcoin will fall and that it need to hedged, sounds like you have no idea what BTC is...
Maybe you have your money in a Bank or you are a banker and you talking about contracts and options and "financial tools", like speculations and spreading rumours for this and that etc etc...
If you did it in the past and hold your BTC, now you will not come over here asking about investments. You'd already have your own proposals...
Unfortunately for you bitcoin is still rising, so maybe hodl some if you have. Having a portion of your "wealth" in BTC, like magneto said, looks/sounds already as an investment.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: Nalbo on August 27, 2017, 12:15:15 AM
If you are looking for High risk, either go for gambling or HYIPs.


Title: Re: High risk/reward bitcoin investment platforms
Post by: hardinero007 on September 04, 2017, 08:18:45 AM
hi, do crypto casinos have 50% roi annually?  meaning if we invest 1 btc, we will be getting 1.5 btc after 1 year?  i know of a good crypto casino - just dice (justdice.com), but i doubt roi will be 50%