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Title: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: dennis_sweden on June 21, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
I've been awake for 40 hours and don't want to miss the opening of trade; would like to observe what happens and be able to make a decision whehter I should try to withdraw my $700 (Mtgox could be broke) or buy bitcoins and transfer to wallet. I'm also dead tired, so there isn't much realistic hope of trade resuming within the next 12 hours - or am I wrong?


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: klaus on June 21, 2011, 07:50:41 PM
mtgox will inform us 24 hours before re-opening.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: NO_SLAVE on June 21, 2011, 07:51:13 PM
go to bed dude. Theres not much you can do. Let the market stabilize then make a clear decision.
Tradehill looks stable, which I think is a good indication of the market.



Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 21, 2011, 07:51:44 PM
mtgox will inform us 24 hours before re-opening.

So get some sleep.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: dennis_sweden on June 21, 2011, 08:05:36 PM
Thanks, I have been following Tradhill and it has been stable during the past days, but of course, the volumes are much smaller. Great that Mtgox is going to inform the market 24 hours before reopening, some of the best piece of information from them so far.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: TrainDeluxe on June 21, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
For those who are waiting for their claim to get processed, I have the following point:

I think that even if the first 20% of the claims will get processed reaaaly quick (like in 12 hours) the exchange will stay closed because MtGox will wait for the other - at least - 50-60% of the user DB to get their claims submitted. Reopening trade before the majority of the users is cleared would be just unfair! And of course those users above 20% will have forgotten about Mtgox and wont look into the issue for another week or two.

Keeping this in mind one can say that ETA for Mt.Gox exchange is at least 1 to 2 weeks, or even longer!

So everyone just relax in the mean time... :-)


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 21, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
Festina lente!!!


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: RandyMarsh on June 21, 2011, 08:35:49 PM
4 weeks 3 days, thats friday 22 july at some point... mark my words


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 21, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
4 weeks 3 days, thats friday 22 july at some point... mark my words

We all know that! Seriously dude, what time????


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 21, 2011, 08:43:08 PM
Read this thread as 'Résumé' and went in already having a way of thought that deal with people having some kind of track record of their past bigger trades and you can verify by calling people from their résumé.

Well I thought the idea was dumb!

But I see I was completely wrong about this thread, so now who's the dumb one!

It's me.


Also, seriously, that would be a dumb idea, but I can see this being a thread too.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: RchGrav on June 21, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
I really hope that your estimates are way off...  Although with the claim site being offline its not really a great sign.

Weeks in Bitcoin time is like YEARS in real time...


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 22, 2011, 02:59:47 AM
About a week.

And the voice of reason. Those eyes!!!!!! :)


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: Horkabork on June 22, 2011, 03:09:46 AM
About a week.

A Mt. Gox week or a normal week? A Mt. Gox day is like 3 normal days.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: fabianhjr on June 22, 2011, 03:24:34 AM
TradeHill, Virwox, BitcoinMarket, btcex, Bitcoin7, etc;there are plenty! You don't need to wait for MtGox.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: AngelusWebDesign on June 22, 2011, 03:27:03 AM
I also think it will be a while.

Who knows how long it will take them to "process" the "account claims". This is about as far from a simple password reset as you can get.

They've installed a whole new trading SYSTEM -- everything on their end is new. They might be going as fast as they can, but it's still going to drive people away.

Of course, we can't all just "move on" because most of us have USD/BTC stuck at Mt. Gox. All I'm waiting for is to pull mine out. I don't know if I'll ever trade there again.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 22, 2011, 03:29:49 AM
About a week.

A Mt. Gox week or a normal week? A Mt. Gox day is like 3 normal days.

Ok, I will give them 'contractor days' which is about double... So, two weeks.

chodpaba,

Haven't seen relevant posts from you so I pose the question(s)....

Use Mt. Gox, no use Mt. Gox?

Forgive and forget? Forgive and use and always be shitting yourself????


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: AngelusWebDesign on June 22, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
TradeHill, Virwox, BitcoinMarket, btcex, Bitcoin7, etc;there are plenty! You don't need to wait for MtGox.

You're forgetting that about 70 - 80% of the *liquid* bitcoin economy is tied up at Mt. Gox.

Sure, some people are putting MORE cash in, or depositing NEWLY MINTED bitcoins in other exchanges -- but the real "crash" and/or "recovery" can't happen until the Big Boy re-opens. There is so much cash there it hurts.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 22, 2011, 03:46:17 AM
TradeHill, Virwox, BitcoinMarket, btcex, Bitcoin7, etc;there are plenty! You don't need to wait for MtGox.

You're forgetting that about 70 - 80% of the *liquid* bitcoin economy is tied up at Mt. Gox.

Sure, some people are putting MORE cash in, or depositing NEWLY MINTED bitcoins in other exchanges -- but the real "crash" and/or "recovery" can't happen until the Big Boy re-opens. There is so much cash there it hurts.


All I can think is, "Ma Bell"!!!

That's too much in any one group's hands. Not willing to say this was divine providence but Christ man! That's unreasonable!!!


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: FlipPro on June 22, 2011, 03:48:36 AM
TradeHill, Virwox, BitcoinMarket, btcex, Bitcoin7, etc;there are plenty! You don't need to wait for MtGox.

You're forgetting that about 70 - 80% of the *liquid* bitcoin economy is tied up at Mt. Gox.

Sure, some people are putting MORE cash in, or depositing NEWLY MINTED bitcoins in other exchanges -- but the real "crash" and/or "recovery" can't happen until the Big Boy re-opens. There is so much cash there it hurts.

People were really fucking stupid to put every single penny they had in 1 website. It angers me beyond any reason, that the biggest destabilizer to the bitcoin, is human stupidity.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: TraderTimm on June 22, 2011, 03:54:25 AM
People were really fucking stupid to put every single penny they had in 1 website. It angers me beyond any reason, that the biggest destabilizer to the bitcoin, is human stupidity.

I agree. I would also extend that to include the mining pools. The irony there is rather thick. They are prime targets for disruptive behavior. I think our next crisis will involve something along those lines. We only learn when bashed over the head, it seems.



Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 22, 2011, 11:52:40 AM
About a week.

A Mt. Gox week or a normal week? A Mt. Gox day is like 3 normal days.

Ok, I will give them 'contractor days' which is about double... So, two weeks.

chodpaba,

Haven't seen relevant posts from you so I pose the question(s)....

Use Mt. Gox, no use Mt. Gox?

Forgive and forget? Forgive and use and always be shitting yourself????

I plan to continue to support several exchanges including Mt. Gox. But my confidence in each one will have a bearing how much I use them. In any case I do not keep large amounts in any exchange for very long. I move funds in, make my trades, and move funds out. I have a trivial amount still hanging in Mt. Gox, but mostly I am upset about the user list being lifted because I control my privacy pretty carefully, that kind of thing will not fly...

Right. I haven't seen it on any thread yet but has Mt. Gox addressed who the auditing firm is or how they interacted with them? I can't get past the knucklehead move.


Title: Re: How long do you reckon it will take until trading resumes?
Post by: finnthecelt on June 22, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
Mt.Gox has done a runner with our money and there is nothing we can do but sell every last bitcoin we have in tradehill to try and recover the loss.

That's not true and why should anyone take your advice?