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Title: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: BenR on August 10, 2017, 06:11:31 AM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: sweetdesirez on August 10, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

Though tricky, it is nothing impossible. You can get someone to create a custom bot for that. However, it will be a hard job to let the bot understand the quality of the posts. It will be able to check the parameters on which it will check and respond to.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: paul gatt on August 10, 2017, 03:53:03 PM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

I think it is very difficult to do that. You need to be a computer engineer, you need to be a programmer who can create a bot. The bot needs to be able to check or do anything you want automatically. Very expensive if you want to do it.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: blockchaingo on August 10, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
Generally it's working like that:
  • You create google forms with shared google-docs spreadsheet in a read mode
  • Every participant on daily basis commit links for each bounty-channel(twitter/fb/etc) in a separate form
  • On a weekly basis you're checking 20% the links - if there are a lot of broken links you should check all the rest, if not - everything is ok. I think to automate this simple js script can be implemented (maybe even it should just check http response code).


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: JohnnyNnex on August 10, 2017, 05:32:06 PM
Generally it's working like that:
  • You create google forms with shared google-docs spreadsheet in a read mode
  • Every participant on daily basis commit links for each bounty-channel(twitter/fb/etc) in a separate form
  • On a weekly basis you're checking 20% the links - if there are a lot of broken links you should check all the rest, if not - everything is ok. I think to automate this simple js script can be implemented (maybe even it should just check http response code).
Looks very ... easy ahah
and how long does it take?


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: BluRPie on August 10, 2017, 07:16:18 PM
You can find some automated services but it is not for free. I think that more simple to attract Bounty manager


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: jorneyflair on August 11, 2017, 10:01:50 AM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

Not actually possible especially for social media.

For signature campaign you can easily buy or make a bot that counts the number of posts done by a participant but then people would abuse the system and spam a lot, just for the payment

For the social media, you could just make another bot that would verify every post, but quality and adding people to a spreadsheet would have to be done by you.

Just hire a bounty manager.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Patatas on August 11, 2017, 11:12:49 AM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!
You have to write multiple bots if not one dedicated for all the tasks,
->Your twitter bot crawls the pages of listed UDI's and check for particular keywords or links in those tweets.
-> Signature campaign bots do post counting but doesn't necessarily discard spam posts which is a downside of using a bot here.
->Get a python developer to automate things or hire a manager to keep a track on the bounties manually.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: GideonGono on August 11, 2017, 02:20:02 PM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

Though tricky, it is nothing impossible. You can get someone to create a custom bot for that. However, it will be a hard job to let the bot understand the quality of the posts. It will be able to check the parameters on which it will check and respond to.

Exactly! It is still better to hire a bounty campaign manager to do the job. Regarding the twitter campaign that you will be having, I saw some bounty campaigns having that kind of bot to count how many retweets you have which is very helpful since this is the one who is very hard to look at and the last one to be finished counting (or in other words, tricky). Anyway, you can just make the participants who joined twitter campaign post the links of their retweets i.e. to make a separate bounty campaign thread regarding twitter.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: tigervn on August 11, 2017, 02:26:03 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
This is a great job for people who have a lot of time and little capital.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: LeGaulois on August 12, 2017, 11:59:27 AM
For the twitter campaign, you can save your time with IFTT
Using twitter RSS. If a tweet is posted by user @12346 containing a special hashtag then it will be added to a google sheet (with username, date, link, etc). At the end of the campaign you will have a full list a tweet done, then you can again save your time by sorting the list by alphabetical order
I saw some projects using Twitter API with an App


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: BenR on August 13, 2017, 12:04:18 PM
For the twitter campaign, you can save your time with IFTT
Using twitter RSS. If a tweet is posted by user @12346 containing a special hashtag then it will be added to a google sheet (with username, date, link, etc). At the end of the campaign you will have a full list a tweet done, then you can again save your time by sorting the list by alphabetical order
I saw some projects using Twitter API with an App

Thanks. I can work with this.

I know that's why there are bounty managers.
Any other specific suggestions for how to automate, perhaps for FB?


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: aTriz on August 13, 2017, 12:38:59 PM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

The way most social media campaigns work is that they have a hashtag related to your project. You can get a bot to do that for you but then it would be abused by low-quality spammers.

Don't think it is possible for the signature campaign, you could get a bot to count post with 100+ character but heaps of spam would occur.

Anyway, sent you a pm regarding this, thanks


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: LeGaulois on August 13, 2017, 04:33:34 PM
For the twitter campaign, you can save your time with IFTT
Using twitter RSS. If a tweet is posted by user @12346 containing a special hashtag then it will be added to a google sheet (with username, date, link, etc). At the end of the campaign you will have a full list a tweet done, then you can again save your time by sorting the list by alphabetical order
I saw some projects using Twitter API with an App

Thanks. I can work with this.

I know that's why there are bounty managers.
Any other specific suggestions for how to automate, perhaps for FB?

Welcome.
For Facebook you can use the same technique, using a Feed/RSS and Google sheet
Basically, Facebook doesn't provide a Feed/RSS for profile/pages but you can use the URL below which work. It's long ago since I used this method, so play a bit and test the water

https://www.wallflux.com/#rss
https://www.wallflux.com/#atom
https://protected-fjord-8206.herokuapp.com/
http://createfeed.fivefilters.org/


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: irfan_pak10 on September 03, 2017, 08:28:19 PM
Here we go

Website: https://bountyportals.com/blogs
Automatic Bountyportal: http://bountyportals.com/bountyportals/httpdoc/login.php
Blog: https://bountyportals.com/blogs



Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: rext on September 03, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

I think this is a job that we have to do manually. If you want to design a bot that can perform it, you need special characters for it to be identifiable. I think you need good programmers


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: DariaPT on September 04, 2017, 03:43:18 PM
 I've scanned through all the discussion but did not find any mention of any tools or platforms which let if not manage, but at least track automatically the efficiency of the bounty campaigns. Can somebody suggest any tool for automating bounty campaign tracking and analysis?


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: savioroshan on September 05, 2017, 01:53:12 AM
Buddy, its not really possible to automate a bounty campaign. Because I am pretty sure bots wont be able to check the post quality of a member. I am not saying you cant automate bounty campaign. Yes you can. There are bots for that purpose. I have seen that type of campaigns . You, please check in the service section of this forum. But even if you use bots, campaign manager has to check the post quality of all participants to prevent spamming in this forum.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: BenR on September 05, 2017, 06:46:38 AM
Buddy, its not really possible to automate a bounty campaign. Because I am pretty sure bots wont be able to check the post quality of a member. I am not saying you cant automate bounty campaign. Yes you can. There are bots for that purpose. I have seen that type of campaigns . You, please check in the service section of this forum. But even if you use bots, campaign manager has to check the post quality of all participants to prevent spamming in this forum.

Of course - but for those things that don't require quality - like retweets, etc.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on September 05, 2017, 07:02:30 AM
Buddy, its not really possible to automate a bounty campaign. Because I am pretty sure bots wont be able to check the post quality of a member. I am not saying you cant automate bounty campaign. Yes you can. There are bots for that purpose. I have seen that type of campaigns . You, please check in the service section of this forum. But even if you use bots, campaign manager has to check the post quality of all participants to prevent spamming in this forum.
Signature campaigns of course can't be automated.Post counting,post length counting could be done but the post quality,never.That's why Campaigns use a manager along with a post counting bot to keep a check on the quality.
Apart from that,twitter,reddit/other social network campaigns could be fully automated.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Haynes on September 05, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
You can find people who are registered in bounty campaign in spreedsheet or accepted participant list in bounty link that you follow. You can also see in the announcement on the link bounty that you follow. and can also directly ask the bounty manager.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: iamTom123 on September 06, 2017, 06:37:22 AM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc. Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

I think there are now portals that you can use to make things easier and less complicated for you. I am a member of TheViralExchange and looking at the way they do things you would not have anything to worry about and they also have a good base of members who are always looking for ways to generate bounty coins or tokens as rewards for doing something mostly in social media sites like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Google+. I am suggesting you try to inspect their platform.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Katashi on September 06, 2017, 01:53:29 PM
i think this is good but definitely bad news for campaign managers, for me the disadvantage of this will be the manual checking of post quality per participant. the bct forum will be full of non quality post if ever coz the checking will be automated. i think that's only my opinion just saying though


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: DariaPT on September 20, 2017, 12:36:31 PM

I think there are now portals that you can use to make things easier and less complicated for you. I am a member of TheViralExchange ...
Sorry, are these guys have any presence on bitcointalk? or it that something independent like an agency?


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: ccccccc7 on September 20, 2017, 01:11:38 PM
I think it is cheaper to hire bounty manager than dev who will try to automate it but still you will have to check the posts by yourself.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: AltCreators on September 20, 2017, 03:54:42 PM
Yes.

I hope someone makes something like this.
I would pay money for this.
It also guarantees members are payed on time and i would know that they are posting


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: VPride on September 20, 2017, 04:16:12 PM
Here we go

Website: https://bountyportals.com/blogs
Automatic Bountyportal: http://bountyportals.com/bountyportals/httpdoc/login.php
Blog: https://bountyportals.com/blogs


Thanks, interesting...


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: andrewvlasov on September 21, 2017, 02:43:48 PM
Only a good bounty manager can check the campaign. People need to be checked.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Black House Up on September 21, 2017, 02:47:09 PM
Buddy, its not really possible to automate a bounty campaign. Because I am pretty sure bots wont be able to check the post quality of a member. I am not saying you cant automate bounty campaign. Yes you can. There are bots for that purpose. I have seen that type of campaigns . You, please check in the service section of this forum. But even if you use bots, campaign manager has to check the post quality of all participants to prevent spamming in this forum.
Signature campaigns of course can't be automated.Post counting,post length counting could be done but the post quality,never.That's why Campaigns use a manager along with a post counting bot to keep a check on the quality.
Apart from that,twitter,reddit/other social network campaigns could be fully automated.

Maybe he can make a very intelligent bot to check the post quality? Probably not, but maybe he's a hypergenius and that's eZ for him?


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: btcdepo on September 21, 2017, 02:56:02 PM
All the social media companies are providing an open API which you can use it to automate your bounty campaign but anyway you'll need to have a Bounty Manager to manage process and measure the quality of bounty.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Red Fish on September 21, 2017, 02:58:40 PM
You can make Bounty campaign as file loading, or via shortened link and then if user want to download the file or go to the shortened link, he must do something.  There are some shortened links webpages, some works with Bitcoin too - for example, check this - https://coinurl.com and https://bitly.com/  ;D


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: asyakashi on September 21, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Nothing better than manual counting, I see some apps used by campaign managers are experiencing annoyances. Maybe it's because of a small server or connection interruption, I do not understand what's going on.
Probably the most well-known app is mr. Irfan.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Michaelsch on September 22, 2017, 01:28:18 AM
I think it's not that difficult but the only problem would be to check the quality of posts.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: cryptoUKManiac on September 22, 2017, 04:17:24 PM
You can automate most things with API-s, for example on twitter with their API you can get ids of users who re-twitted you post etc. I didn't research other platforms but it must be similar.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: YelloAme on September 23, 2017, 03:52:19 AM
You cannot really automate it since you have to keep track of the post of all the bounty earners.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: bazar111 on September 23, 2017, 06:46:36 AM
I think it is not even impossible, and you shoul do it manually.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: avp2306 on September 23, 2017, 09:28:27 AM
There are several people here do some automated bounty campaigns and try to seek them on service section and post that you want this service but expect that you will pay some huge rewards for the maker since its not an easy job to automate all things up in the camp. And maybe try to contact those campaign who run automatically since I'd see some of them from the past.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Patatas on September 23, 2017, 10:59:09 AM
There are several people here do some automated bounty campaigns and try to seek them on service section and post that you want this service but expect that you will pay some huge rewards for the maker since its not an easy job to automate all things up in the camp. And maybe try to contact those campaign who run automatically since I'd see some of them from the past.
Those seen in the past don't show 100% results.You can take Bitmixer campaign for example,even though they had automated post counting they replied on Lauda to check post quality and make sure no spam is generated from the participants.

You cannot really automate it since you have to keep track of the post of all the bounty earners.
Post counting and payouts can be automated but not the quality check.AI isn't that intelligent yet.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: BenR on October 16, 2017, 08:51:54 AM
There are several people here do some automated bounty campaigns and try to seek them on service section and post that you want this service but expect that you will pay some huge rewards for the maker since its not an easy job to automate all things up in the camp. And maybe try to contact those campaign who run automatically since I'd see some of them from the past.
Those seen in the past don't show 100% results.You can take Bitmixer campaign for example,even though they had automated post counting they replied on Lauda to check post quality and make sure no spam is generated from the participants.

You cannot really automate it since you have to keep track of the post of all the bounty earners.
Post counting and payouts can be automated but not the quality check.AI isn't that intelligent yet.

Yes, of course. But it would save time if we could track reports and likes automatically.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: heremaiaD on October 16, 2017, 06:12:27 PM
Made one for an old campaign I ran

Had to use facebook api to grab data from facebook

used a third party app to track twitter 9 dollars a month

imported into spreadsheet and calculated based on formulas.

It will save you lots of time, but it's a bit of a learning curve to use.
Without a doubt the most accurate way to run a campaign


Check out one of the versions  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WunSA1J8KYnqL0Oupt317Dq_eMIiuo1BqSKkBlKycR4/edit#gid=1880997856)

Let me know if this is something you are looking for

- Heremaia



Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: J. Cooper on October 16, 2017, 06:36:39 PM
I don't think this would work out nicely for your campaign, especially if you want to have good results.
First of all, it's going to be incredibly hard to pull of a system that counts all the post, not to mention being a judge in declaring a post quality and another spam. You also have the risk that participants will find ways around the bot. So I would just recommend to hire a campaign manager, this way you're sure you're getting quality posts and you're contributing to the whole ecosystem at the same time.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: EugeneAS on October 16, 2017, 06:42:11 PM
In general, we are talking on a complex automation SaaS, which is generally not effective to build for a one-time use.
So we can only use some tools to do part of a job.
For example, I can suggest using google analytics and generating UTM links (for example with btt user id in them).
Than you can track every user's link clicks.
But this can be spoofed as well.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: blockman on October 16, 2017, 08:40:43 PM
I have read something like that with bitdice social media campaign but I have never visited their thread again and don't have an idea. Since you said about "posted,shared,retweeted" so this is mostly for the social media campaign's. It's hard to do this since it's not just a simple software and you have to consult a developer and it will cost you money. My suggestion is it is better if you'll do the counting manually and do the style of yahoo which he requires to post those links of those posts on his twitter campaign for each participant.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: saleenasmith on October 17, 2017, 07:40:01 AM
A bounty campaign is a PR event, where project is being promoted by its members, not by special team. Usually a term “bounty campaign” is being used in ICO (Initial Coin Offering) crowdsale campaigns. The membership in such campaigns is being rewarded with blockchain tokens offered for sale during ICO


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: EugeneAS on October 17, 2017, 05:34:31 PM
Also, check this tool out https://www.integromat.com/
It is similar to IFTTT, but mush easier to use with greater possibilities. Can integrate telegram chat with google sheets, for example.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Blake_Last on October 18, 2017, 02:59:46 PM
The only automated bounty campaign program I know of is that of the Bounty Portal created by Irfan. You should ask him if you want to use his program. However, as far as I know, his service is also included in it. So if you want to use it, you have to hire him to manage the campaign for you and pay him according to how much he charges to handle a campaign.

If you're interested, you can contact or sent him a message on his website here (https://bountyportals.com/).


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: BenR on October 22, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
thanks for the additional suggestions!


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Ankorus on October 22, 2017, 08:59:42 AM
I'm currently working on a bounty campaign.

Trying to get the bounty campaign in several languages. I would suggest encouraging people in the bounty campaign as community managers and then get the to translate the bounty campaign in that language.

If anyone has any other ideas I'd love to hear. Trying to get our message out.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: buwaytress on October 22, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
I think I know just the service you're looking for. I tried it out myself, with limited success, but it seems to do exactly what you're looking for. An automated manager of sorts for specific use on Bitcointalk bounty campaigns. It only needs a one-time entry of forum profile information and then automatically updates on user activity. It's free too, so why not try it?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2207187.0

Not my link or service, just helping out.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Norihiro on October 22, 2017, 03:47:17 PM
I'm fully supporting the position which states that using such an automated decision or bot will strongly decrease the quality of the bounty campaign - even self-educative platforms cannot fully analyze if the post(for example) is decent or it's just a spam. As the consequence - we will have lot's of "automated bounty" projects and tons of spam, even more than we have today.
However, bounty managers may vary as well, so the existence of such a bot may affect the "standarts" of a good bounty manager, that's pretty good for the community.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: bobitza on October 22, 2017, 04:47:32 PM
I"m looking for a way to check on the bounty campaign - to make sure that people who signed up actually posted, shared, retweeted, etc.

Taking suggestions, please - thanks!

I want to know why you need to automate a bounty campaign? I think it's not necessary, because management requires a lot of elements that a BOT can not do, the quality of the work can not be determined by the BOT, it needs a real person with a lot of experience.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: btvGainer on October 22, 2017, 11:04:49 PM
I am also looking for a similar tool


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: Suzobo on October 23, 2017, 01:13:43 AM
I think this is good but definitely bad news for campaign managers, for me the disadvantage of this will be the manual checking of post quality per participant. the bct forum will be full of non quality post if ever coz the checking will be automated. i think that's only my opinion just saying though


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: boakyei on October 23, 2017, 03:23:55 AM
Is not easy as you think. U need to be experience programmer and develop a not to do that automatically for you.You can hire a computer engineer of course or a freelancer to assist you for a fee.


Title: Re: How to automate Bounty campaign?
Post by: buwaytress on October 23, 2017, 07:14:15 AM
I'm fully supporting the position which states that using such an automated decision or bot will strongly decrease the quality of the bounty campaign - even self-educative platforms cannot fully analyze if the post(for example) is decent or it's just a spam. As the consequence - we will have lot's of "automated bounty" projects and tons of spam, even more than we have today.
However, bounty managers may vary as well, so the existence of such a bot may affect the "standarts" of a good bounty manager, that's pretty good for the community.

I doubt any serious campaign manager will leave it to full automation as the final decision in determining qualification. But the type of automation such as the one I posted above helps in eliminating human mistakes often made by even the best bounty managers. If you have a bot or tool that checks, among other things, for:

1. Minimum posts, post bursting, within specific cut off times
2. Unqualified posts, for example, in sections that don't count
3. Copy pasting/ plagiarism
4. Correct sig code
5. Correct application, including valid wallets, profile link

Then the human manager only needs to validate and check quality. You get increased quality, quicker validation, more time for manager to focus on improving participant quality.