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Title: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Nolo on May 17, 2013, 02:38:01 AM

I've been asked by a couple of people as to why I am supporting a coin so strongly when it was originally released as a "joke" to show how bad the new alt coins are.  (No, it isn't just because I have tons of these coins.  I do have quite a few of these coins though, but it's because I have mined it nonstop, and believe in it.) 

The reason is, that despite it's original intentions it turned out to be the most fair release of any of the new coins.  There was 0 premine.  It was not an orphan fest, where only those sitting on top of the nodes have a latency low enough to find any blocks. And it now has pretty good support in the community.  It has a very fast transaction time compared to some of the older coins as well, but not so fast as to cause crazy orphans and massive blockchain bloat. 

I am not a dev nor any kind of insider.  I am only a miner and supporter.

All of that being said here's the current state of the coin.  The coin has been completely rebranded as Firecoin2.  The "2" remained for no other reason than to keep the acronym FC2. 

Difficulty is currently 4.  The hashrate is moderately low however.  What this means, is that block times are taking roughly twice as long as they should.  I am throwing approximately 6 Mh/s at it, and am getting tons of blocks quite regularly.  If you don't have that kind of power, there are numerous pools up and running now.  But if you do, solo mining is still very effective. 

If you missed the original launch which was only two days ago, don't fret.  You can get tons of blocks now with the hash rate so low.  Below is the information you need to get started.  Also, if you would rather just buy the coins, they are being sold relatively cheap on my google docs exchange:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207514.0


Firecoin2 has a block reward of 200 coins and will have a total of 336 million coins.

Default port is 9131 – Forwarding this port can help if you have connection problems
Default RPC port is 9132 - This is the port is point your miners towards if solo mining
Block target is 150 seconds
Difficulty changes every 2016 blocks
Block reward halves every 840,000 blocks

Windows binary: http://www.mediafire.com/?pgbk6ppwmo4cg3c
Source: http://www.mediafire.com/?pks74njs6b88i4b

Official website: http://firecoin2.com

Faucet: http://admindependencia.net/fcfaucet.html

Pool: http://pool.titanix.net:9999

 


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: truckythin on May 17, 2013, 02:43:56 AM
as soon as we have buyer, then we're good, unless... same the others, that's all  ;D



Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Kinetic915 on May 17, 2013, 02:50:07 AM
+1 to this.

Give this a look people.  This here is a solid reliable coin.  This is not a mad dash coin or a mad dump coin.  Give it a look and you will not be disappointed.  This coin is almost an entirely community supported coin, many are for it and want support for it.  Hazard, the dev, has been kind enough to give us very reliable support on the client side.  Check it out and let us all know what to do to improve!  The FireCoin2 community will do our best to support any requests.


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: TheDirtybird on May 17, 2013, 02:54:28 AM
It was developed overnight..are you out of your mind?


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Nolo on May 17, 2013, 02:57:44 AM
It was developed overnight..are you out of your mind?

 :o :o :o :o :o

I'm cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!

It was probably developed in less time than overnight.

Since when is the measure of a product it's development time?  Ask Butterfly Labs. 

The lack of a lengthy development time changes nothing in regard to the launch and mechanics of the coin. 



Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: fenican on May 17, 2013, 03:01:47 AM
Great coin love the name and new logo.  This one should go the distance


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: saudibull on May 17, 2013, 03:35:07 AM
Dosent matter how long it took to develop, its a better coin than any other in a while, and people were working on those other coins much longer - It also dosent matter if it started out as a joke or not / if something works, it works. Imagine how many things we use, watch or deal with everyday that started out as a joke, and is priceless, multibillion dollar companies, what have you.... Im not saying this is the next BitCoin, it's not - But its the best alt. we have had in a while. If people looked into it a little more rather than hype and cool names like these other coins, you all will see your wallet full of FC2 go a long way -


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: bopbeep on May 17, 2013, 03:38:40 AM
Dosent matter how long it took to develop, its a better coin than any other in a while, and people were working on those other coins much longer - It also dosent matter if it started out as a joke or not / if something works, it works. Imagine how many things we use, watch or deal with everyday that started out as a joke, and is priceless, multibillion dollar companies, what have you.... Im not saying this is the next BitCoin, it's not - But its the best alt. we have had in a while. If people looked into it a little more rather than hype and cool names like these other coins, you all will see your wallet full of FC2 go a long way -

please explain to me why this is better than the other alt coins


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Kinetic915 on May 17, 2013, 03:41:28 AM
Dosent matter how long it took to develop, its a better coin than any other in a while, and people were working on those other coins much longer - It also dosent matter if it started out as a joke or not / if something works, it works. Imagine how many things we use, watch or deal with everyday that started out as a joke, and is priceless, multibillion dollar companies, what have you.... Im not saying this is the next BitCoin, it's not - But its the best alt. we have had in a while. If people looked into it a little more rather than hype and cool names like these other coins, you all will see your wallet full of FC2 go a long way -

please explain to me why this is better than the other alt coins

its entirely community supported.  besides the client everything else was the community pulling this together.  There was no secrecy in this coin. Yes it did not suddenly explode like wdc but I havent seen any accusation of scam etc etc.  Its a solid coin.  The coin itself is fast, confirms fast pays fast in large amounts.  I think this coin has got the best support i've ever seen in a alt so far


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: fenican on May 17, 2013, 03:43:01 AM
It is also a beautiful looking coin


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: aysyr on May 17, 2013, 03:43:53 AM
You do realize it had the exact same release as Feathercoin with the exact same source code and yet it's somehow better than it?


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: bopbeep on May 17, 2013, 03:54:47 AM
Dosent matter how long it took to develop, its a better coin than any other in a while, and people were working on those other coins much longer - It also dosent matter if it started out as a joke or not / if something works, it works. Imagine how many things we use, watch or deal with everyday that started out as a joke, and is priceless, multibillion dollar companies, what have you.... Im not saying this is the next BitCoin, it's not - But its the best alt. we have had in a while. If people looked into it a little more rather than hype and cool names like these other coins, you all will see your wallet full of FC2 go a long way -

please explain to me why this is better than the other alt coins

its entirely community supported.
I think this coin has got the best support i've ever seen in a alt so far


support = early adopters
FC was pump and dump with a lot of support
CHN was pump and dump with a lot of support
i'm going to laugh if people buy into this


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Nolo on May 17, 2013, 03:57:04 AM
You do realize it had the exact same release as Feathercoin with the exact same source code and yet it's somehow better than it?

I have no beef with FTC.  I supported FTC and thought it was a good coin.  But it grew too fast and fell pretty hard.  I'm hoping FC2 can resist that immediate out of control growth and collapse that FTC has underwent.  Although now, FTC seems to have found its place as it matures more.  

So like I said, no problem with FTC.  I hope it does well. It has its supporters though, and I'm supporting FC2 now.  


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Kinetic915 on May 17, 2013, 03:59:21 AM
Dosent matter how long it took to develop, its a better coin than any other in a while, and people were working on those other coins much longer - It also dosent matter if it started out as a joke or not / if something works, it works. Imagine how many things we use, watch or deal with everyday that started out as a joke, and is priceless, multibillion dollar companies, what have you.... Im not saying this is the next BitCoin, it's not - But its the best alt. we have had in a while. If people looked into it a little more rather than hype and cool names like these other coins, you all will see your wallet full of FC2 go a long way -

please explain to me why this is better than the other alt coins

its entirely community supported.
I think this coin has got the best support i've ever seen in a alt so far


support = early adopters
FC was pump and dump with a lot of support
CHN was pump and dump with a lot of support
i'm going to laugh if people buy into this


The whole point is how its a solid steady coin.  No pump and dump.  Yeah we adopted it but that doesn't mean you cant too.


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Nolo on May 17, 2013, 04:01:53 AM
Dosent matter how long it took to develop, its a better coin than any other in a while, and people were working on those other coins much longer - It also dosent matter if it started out as a joke or not / if something works, it works. Imagine how many things we use, watch or deal with everyday that started out as a joke, and is priceless, multibillion dollar companies, what have you.... Im not saying this is the next BitCoin, it's not - But its the best alt. we have had in a while. If people looked into it a little more rather than hype and cool names like these other coins, you all will see your wallet full of FC2 go a long way -

please explain to me why this is better than the other alt coins

its entirely community supported.
I think this coin has got the best support i've ever seen in a alt so far


support = early adopters
FC was pump and dump with a lot of support
CHN was pump and dump with a lot of support
i'm going to laugh if people buy into this


The whole point is how its a solid steady coin.  No pump and dump.  Yeah we adopted it but that doesn't mean you cant too.

Exactly.  I'm mining it hard, and getting plenty of coins.  I'll be even happier when more people mine and I get less coins.  The community behind this coin isn't here to pump it and dump it.  That's why the giveaways and bounty programs have been so successful. 

Jump on.  Get your blocks and join in on the next big coin :)



Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Kinetic915 on May 17, 2013, 04:03:11 AM
We should name it commie coin. lol maybe a big fc2 giveaway will help idk?


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: tobobit on May 17, 2013, 04:37:04 AM
All I've see Nolo doing is trashing other coins and promoting FC2

AFAIC he is just a mouthpiece talking out of his neck with as much cred as one of those shills from MCX

Just saying.
I mined a couple hundred FC2, so I have some interest in it gaining traction, but I think there are better alternatives.


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Nolo on May 17, 2013, 04:49:01 AM
All I've see Nolo doing is trashing other coins and promoting FC2

AFAIC he is just a mouthpiece talking out of his neck with as much cred as one of those shills from MCX

Just saying.
I mined a couple hundred FC2, so I have some interest in it gaining traction, but I think there are better alternatives.


 :(  Other than when a launch is a miserable failure due to low difficulty and orphans, I never bash other alt coins.  I'm one of the biggest promoters of alt coins there is.  

And just because I'm supporting FC2 now, that means I'm trashing all other coins?  

I disagree.  

(Don't like the name calling, that's usually the only time I'll delete a post, but I'll let this one stay as I wanted to respond to it.)

What do you believe is a better alternative right now?


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: saudibull on May 17, 2013, 04:55:54 AM
Well, cant we all agree that all coins are the same, they are, in reality, other than BTC and LTC - but somehow some coins do well, make it to exchanges and become heavily traded and valued - everything is a fork of something. We are not here to try and compare any alt to Bitcoin or LTC, because we know nothing coming out is going to compare. What we are comparing is these alts based of LTC and BTC - so when you keep in mind thats what were actually comparing it to, FC2 is better, the price didnt run up to 30 LTC per 1K like WDC and so many others, it wasnt pumped and dumped - / Lets face it, It dosent matter what new coin comes out, some people will love it, some will hate it, thats how it always is here - So, what do people want to see, they want to see a coin they can get in on early, and make it to the big leagues.. because most people did not get in on BTC and LTC when it was dirt cheap / So pick a coin, stick with it, promote it, make it better, and you can be considered one of the first to get in on a coin at the start that eventually made value of itself - / Some of you will agree with this, some wont, everyone is different. But Ill tell you one thing, Nolo, kinect, hazard, me and many others are trying to promote the coin because we like it more than the other, we believe in it and want to be a part of making it succeed. Thats all. Other users do the same thing for other coins. Diversity -


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: tobobit on May 17, 2013, 04:59:17 AM
All I've see Nolo doing is trashing other coins and promoting FC2

AFAIC he is just a mouthpiece talking out of his neck with as much cred as one of those shills from MCX

Just saying.
I mined a couple hundred FC2, so I have some interest in it gaining traction, but I think there are better alternatives.


 :(  Other than when a launch is a miserable failure due to low difficulty and orphans, I never bash other alt coins.  I'm one of the biggest promoters of alt coins there is.  

And just because I'm supporting FC2 now, that means I'm trashing all other coins?  

I disagree.  

(Don't like the name calling, that's usually the only time I'll delete a post, but I'll let this one stay as I wanted to respond to it.)

What do you believe is a better alternative right now?

Feathercoin, the coin that Firecoin2 is a 1:1 clone of, and the coin of which the developer is very active. The Fc2 dev is not active, and he admits it was launched as a joke
Yac coin, it uses a unique method of denying 1024k based mining, thereby denying GPU mining. (innovation)

I see a handfull of people pumping FTC2 (FC2).
they are very vocal, and some of them will also denounce other alt coins just to make FTC2 look better.

The FC2 coin was originally launched as Feathercoin2. According to the developer, FTC2 was launched as a joke coin, which allowed some people to trade for LARGE amounts cheaply, hence their motivation for being so vocal.
 


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Nolo on May 17, 2013, 05:01:23 AM
All I've see Nolo doing is trashing other coins and promoting FC2

AFAIC he is just a mouthpiece talking out of his neck with as much cred as one of those shills from MCX

Just saying.
I mined a couple hundred FC2, so I have some interest in it gaining traction, but I think there are better alternatives.


 :(  Other than when a launch is a miserable failure due to low difficulty and orphans, I never bash other alt coins.  I'm one of the biggest promoters of alt coins there is.  

And just because I'm supporting FC2 now, that means I'm trashing all other coins?  

I disagree.  

(Don't like the name calling, that's usually the only time I'll delete a post, but I'll let this one stay as I wanted to respond to it.)

What do you believe is a better alternative right now?

Feathercoin, the coin that Firecoin2 is a 1:1 clone of, and the coin of which the developer is very active. The Fc2 dev is not active, and he admits it was launched as a joke
Yac coin, it uses a unique method of denying 1024k based mining, thereby denying GPU mining. (innovation)

I see a handfull of people pumping FTC2 (FC2).
they are very vocal, and some of them will also denounce other alt coins just to make FTC2 look better.

The FC2 coin was originally launched as Feathercoin2.  According to the developer, FTC2 was launched as a joke coin, which allowed some people to trade for LARGE amounts cheaply, hence their motivation for being so vocal.
 


You can get LARGE amounts very cheaply right now.  And how can you say Hazard isn't active?  He released a new version today lol

(Sorry I took the bold out of your quote.  No use in screaming at me.  I can hear you just fine :))


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: tobobit on May 17, 2013, 05:12:02 AM
All I've see Nolo doing is trashing other coins and promoting FC2

AFAIC he is just a mouthpiece talking out of his neck with as much cred as one of those shills from MCX

Just saying.
I mined a couple hundred FC2, so I have some interest in it gaining traction, but I think there are better alternatives.


 :(  Other than when a launch is a miserable failure due to low difficulty and orphans, I never bash other alt coins.  I'm one of the biggest promoters of alt coins there is.  

And just because I'm supporting FC2 now, that means I'm trashing all other coins?  

I disagree.  

(Don't like the name calling, that's usually the only time I'll delete a post, but I'll let this one stay as I wanted to respond to it.)

What do you believe is a better alternative right now?

Feathercoin, the coin that Firecoin2 is a 1:1 clone of, and the coin of which the developer is very active. The Fc2 dev is not active, and he admits it was launched as a joke
Yac coin, it uses a unique method of denying 1024k based mining, thereby denying GPU mining. (innovation)

I see a handfull of people pumping FTC2 (FC2).
they are very vocal, and some of them will also denounce other alt coins just to make FTC2 look better.

The FC2 coin was originally launched as Feathercoin2.  According to the developer, FTC2 was launched as a joke coin, which allowed some people to trade for LARGE amounts cheaply, hence their motivation for being so vocal.
 


You can get LARGE amounts very cheaply right now.  And how can you say Hazard isn't active?  He released a new version today lol

(Sorry I took the bold out of your quote.  No use in screaming at me.  I can hear you just fine :))
I was just posting info I obtained from the first post of the FC2 [ANN] thread.


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: saudibull on May 17, 2013, 05:53:42 AM
Bump :) - Love it or hate it, I wish all of us here could just use our own resources to promote something and possibly turn it into something real, rather than wasting resources to bash others. Just get behind whatever you like, and do what you can -


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Kinetic915 on May 17, 2013, 06:43:06 AM
Bump :) - Love it or hate it, I wish all of us here could just use our own resources to promote something and possibly turn it into something real, rather than wasting resources to bash others. Just get behind whatever you like, and do what you can -

I thought we did a pretty good job promoting!  Its in the hands of the community now.  Maybe the next coin we promote won't be started from a joke!   :-\


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: Hazard on May 17, 2013, 06:43:41 AM
Bump :) - Love it or hate it, I wish all of us here could just use our own resources to promote something and possibly turn it into something real, rather than wasting resources to bash others. Just get behind whatever you like, and do what you can -

I thought we did a pretty good job promoting!  Its in the hands of the community now.  Maybe the next coin we promote won't be started from a joke!   :-\
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204697 ;)


Title: Re: Why I support Firecoin2 & Update on the state of the coin
Post by: ocmoho on May 17, 2013, 06:45:15 AM
Bump :) - Love it or hate it, I wish all of us here could just use our own resources to promote something and possibly turn it into something real, rather than wasting resources to bash others. Just get behind whatever you like, and do what you can -
ill be honest
I got 4k fc2
I thought it was cool to mine.
ill keep them for a while, maybe I can get something cool for them later on
First coin i ever solo mined.
No reason to bash. If you dont like it, go away, we dont need your hashing power anyway.