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Title: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: hammada on August 10, 2017, 06:14:15 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: -ck on August 10, 2017, 08:59:19 PM
Definitely not.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: iamTom123 on August 11, 2017, 01:22:30 AM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

I think most of the members of this forum would agree to this very simple answer: NO and NO! Most of these cloud mining programs are just scams and if you intend to upgrade your account because the real earnings are not in the free status then you can just be wasting your hard-earned money and precious time.

Right now, there are already proven and prestigious mining programs that you can join. Do your own diligence before selecting which one is the best for you. Ask people of their opinion just like what you are doing here and look for possible complaints by members of the said program. All of these things can help you decide which should it be. Anyway, good luck to your desire.

As for me, I invested some of my money in a stable and paying cryptocurrency trading program which is giving me now regular income everyday and I can withdraw my earnings right away in just minutes no more waiting period to be patient of.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 11, 2017, 02:44:13 AM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.
Supposed to be cloud mining but well you did just right on asking here before you would able to lose your hard earned money. Cloudmining isnt really worth to join in and 101% you will surely be got scammed knowing that there are lots of frauds here on bitcoin world.All things that do promise too good to be true returns are most likely are scams.Dont fall for these things.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: crazyivan on August 11, 2017, 04:36:50 AM
If u re a newbie, definitely NOT. I suggest you try with PoS coins. There s a link under my avatar. Let me know if you need help with this.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: piloder on August 11, 2017, 05:31:15 AM
A big NO...

No any cloud mining packages are profitable.
You might have to wait for years to get back your initial investment in terms of fiat.
No any cloud mining services can run for long period, so lifetime contract is not in reality.


Rather than investing in some scammy cloud mining packages just buy some bitcoin and hold them for few year you can easily double or tripple your investment.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: pinkflower on August 11, 2017, 06:41:35 AM
Definitely not.

Listen to this guy, he knows what hes talking about.

Theres one importance piece of information that those cloudmining services dont tell you. That difficulty in BTC mining rises as more hashing power is mining in the network. This makes profitability in mining very hard. If your cloudmining service was really profitable, then why would they share their profits with you? By issuing cloudmining contracts to you, what they are doing is passing their risk to you, not profit.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: sunsilk on August 11, 2017, 09:48:00 AM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?

It's a big no, newbies always come to think of that cloud mining is a real mining and it's a very profitable way to bitcoin.

As stated by everyone here, there's no benefit for you guys if you will try cloud mining.

You can eve become a victim of their shady behavior.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: DaMut on August 11, 2017, 12:04:40 PM
No,Yes and absolutely No.
Cloud mining no longer profitable if you're mining Bitcoin or other Top cryptocurrency.
The difficulty is very high and other than that you also need to pay an electricity fee.
other than that another 'hidden fee' aka their profit will be counted everytime you're going to cash out

Cloud mining can be profitable if you're mining a new cryptocurrency,
this happen if the difficulty not really high and have a good combination between project idea,audience and improvement of the project.
if that project meet that criteria more likely it will be profitable but will take a time around 6 months or more to wait the project make another breakthrough and because of that's the key point to get profit for the miners.

in conclusion,for a newbies it's extremely risk and not really good for.
so all that i can say for you is Absolutely No.

for more reference go read here :
https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/mining/profitability/

and a legit company reviewed by costumer :
https://99bitcoins.com/genesis-cloud-mining-review-scam-legit-investment/


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: SirSar on August 11, 2017, 12:06:22 PM
Cloud mining - is a one way ticket. DO NOT invest in cloud mining.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: deadsilent on August 11, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.
That depends to you. Are you willing to wait and risk? Im asking you because this is not an easy money because this may take a long time to take back you roll of investments. Usually cloudmining is for long term investments. But the risk is, how long will they operate their cloudmining? Many cloudmining just ran away this together with the investor's money. And even your you already get your roll of investments, i don't think it can give you a decent profit.

First thing you should do is to study first. Make a research how it works.
Good to see that you are asking our opinions about cloudmining. And for me, cloudmining is not profitable anymore. But still, it's up to you. Best of luck.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: subSTRATA on August 11, 2017, 12:43:47 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.
That depends to you. Are you willing to wait and risk? Im asking you because this is not an easy money because this may take a long time to take back you roll of investments. Usually cloudmining is for long term investments. But the risk is, how long will they operate their cloudmining? Many cloudmining just ran away this together with the investor's money. And even your you already get your roll of investments, i don't think it can give you a decent profit.

First thing you should do is to study first. Make a research how it works.
Good to see that you are asking our opinions about cloudmining. And for me, cloudmining is not profitable anymore. But still, it's up to you. Best of luck.
even if you plan with long term in mind, youve got to account that the difficulty will increase, and the first thing about a business; a business (cloud mining) will not sell you anything unless they are making money off of it. their objective is to make money, not provide a handout. its very unlikely that you will reach ROI in a reasonable amount of time that justifies your investment.

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Many cloudmining just ran away this together with the investor's money.
thats not cloud mining, thats a ponzi scheme under the guise of a cloud mining operation.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on August 11, 2017, 03:09:26 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.
You choose the wrong choice when it says that cloud mining is one good investment. With the experience of everyone I suggest that cloud mining will only make you lose a lot of bitcoin you have. Cloud mining is not a solution, cloud mining is very risky and also not trusted. Sometimes they become SCAM sites, this is what many people have felt so far. If you are smart then you will choose other investment.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: Immakillya on August 11, 2017, 04:47:12 PM
Don't ever think about investing there mate. Let's say you have invested in a trusted or legitimate cloudmining. The question is the profitability of it. Can cloudmining can give good profit? Definitely the answer is not. It cant sustain or fulfill your needs. You wait for years and you receive your ROI. After that, you are only receive penny from them. Maybe if you invested a long time ago, you are a rich man by now. Why don't play your money yourself? You can do trading or try lending service.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: socks435 on August 11, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
Don't ever think about investing there mate. Let's say you have invested in a trusted or legitimate cloudmining. The question is the profitability of it. Can cloudmining can give good profit? Definitely the answer is not. It cant sustain or fulfill your needs. You wait for years and you receive your ROI. After that, you are only receive penny from them. Maybe if you invested a long time ago, you are a rich man by now. Why don't play your money yourself? You can do trading or try lending service.
Yeah you got the point there is no profitable cloud mining now a days .. never heard a cloud mining site can give you profit mostly they are turning into scam.. Since many people are looking for a cloud mining scammers are still doing their own way to make a new cloud mining site just to scam anyone to invest in their business and never get back their bitcoins from cloud mining..
If you really thinking deeply there are no business that can gives you free profit you should always work hard in order to earn a good amount ..


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: Barcode_ on August 11, 2017, 06:43:24 PM
I don't recommend anyone to invest into cloud mining, most of this sites are scam, why would anyone want to pass your money to someone when your funds are being control by them. Basically if the admin of the site decided to shut down the site and run away, investors are basically helpless with absolutely no hopes of getting their money back.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: Slow death on August 11, 2017, 07:15:21 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?

No, i have a hunch that you will not hear me unless of course i tell you about my own experience


Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

About my experience, well in the past, i invested in cloud mining company (true cloud mining company, not ponzi scheme), unfortunately until today i have no profit, it seems that every month the supposed daily value that was i receive is reduced, so much disappointment that i did not even enter the site.

I gave up on the site, maybe they should have closed my account




Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: jimn on August 11, 2017, 07:42:55 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

There is really very little sites of cloud mining which are legitimate and worth to invest with them, but most of this so called mining cloud sites are just ponzi schemes, and already scammed many people , like Hashocean and so many other programs..


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: thend1949 on August 11, 2017, 10:56:29 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

There is really very little sites of cloud mining which are legitimate and worth to invest with them, but most of this so called mining cloud sites are just ponzi schemes, and already scammed many people , like Hashocean and so many other programs..

I certainly agree on this matter about mining, and that ponzi schemes who scammed people all around the world, this has been affecting lot's of mining reputations. We couldn't trust any legit minings nowadays and that sites you've mentioned few numbers of them is to be confirmed first before doing investments with them. Litteraly I am not into full knowledge about that mining ways because that educated myself based on the past readings and research I did, no mining is still profitable than before.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: GreenBits on August 12, 2017, 04:23:50 AM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

No expert, but no. You are being sold a lie.


Consider the product you are purchasing. Essentially, a printing press that makes money.

Ask yourself, if you had a printing press that made money, would you rent it out to other people so that they could print money?

Let me answer that for you. Hell to the no, you would not. You would plug that bad boy in and print until the power went off, or it broke.

Now compare this to what you are buying ;)

You are being sold uncertainty. The reason why anyone would offer you this is because they are not comfortable with the risk of not achieving ROI. By selling you a contract and getting paid in advance, you are being subjected to the uncertainty of difficulty increases, and time. In the meanwhile, they collect your money, spend it on more hashing power, and actually increase the difficulty, devaluing your asset.

Cloud mining is a scam. mine your own damned coins.



Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: Rahar02 on August 12, 2017, 06:46:02 AM
No,Yes and absolutely No.
Cloud mining no longer profitable if you're mining Bitcoin or other Top cryptocurrency.
The difficulty is very high and other than that you also need to pay an electricity fee.
other than that another 'hidden fee' aka their profit will be counted everytime you're going to cash out

Cloud mining can be profitable if you're mining a new cryptocurrency,
this happen if the difficulty not really high and have a good combination between project idea,audience and improvement of the project.
if that project meet that criteria more likely it will be profitable but will take a time around 6 months or more to wait the project make another breakthrough and because of that's the key point to get profit for the miners.

in conclusion,for a newbies it's extremely risk and not really good for.
so all that i can say for you is Absolutely No.

for more reference go read here :
https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/mining/profitability/

and a legit company reviewed by costumer :
https://99bitcoins.com/genesis-cloud-mining-review-scam-legit-investment/

Nice information about could mining as the most known are genesis and hashflare (I've read it everywhere).
But people, especially for newbies don't know exactly how this mining works, and how if they just run away with all of those money.
Consider how much money we have to pay in order to be involved, such as $140-$500 and so on but you need to wait until 4-6 months for ROI. I always consider, why they should share mining profits for people who don't want to do their research and efforts to build mining rig? Only for easy money.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: wantjokull on August 12, 2017, 08:57:58 AM
Definitely not.


Because cloud mining is not profitable, those are Ponzi schemes which can make you victim of investments easily. The numbers on the websites you see are just numbers and nothing else. They don't do real mining so you are not investing money and you are just giving away your money for doing nothing. Better invest money into hardware mining. Period. :-)


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: hammada on August 13, 2017, 05:52:21 PM
I am very grateful to all of you. Your answer is a very useful reference. The mistake I made was to invest in a bitcoin-"mining" site with a farming concept. Although my investment is small but the "without asking" error is regrettable.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: jerowacik on August 14, 2017, 12:28:52 AM
Definitely not.


Because cloud mining is not profitable, those are Ponzi schemes which can make you victim of investments easily. The numbers on the websites you see are just numbers and nothing else. They don't do real mining so you are not investing money and you are just giving away your money for doing nothing. Better invest money into hardware mining. Period. :-)
Cloud mining is a way that is done by people who are not responsible, he is just looking for profit for himself. Look at today most of the cloud mining will end up scam when it has been able to capture a lot of registrants. They have a goal to take all the bitcoins that are deposited under the pretext of buying hardware mining. The fact is they just keep quiet and wait until we deposit bitcoin to them.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: nethan1btc on August 14, 2017, 03:49:22 AM
Definitely not.


Because cloud mining is not profitable, those are Ponzi schemes which can make you victim of investments easily. The numbers on the websites you see are just numbers and nothing else. They don't do real mining so you are not investing money and you are just giving away your money for doing nothing. Better invest money into hardware mining. Period. :-)
Cloud mining is a way that is done by people who are not responsible, he is just looking for profit for himself. Look at today most of the cloud mining will end up scam when it has been able to capture a lot of registrants. They have a goal to take all the bitcoins that are deposited under the pretext of buying hardware mining. The fact is they just keep quiet and wait until we deposit bitcoin to them.

I think it's not fair for us who worked hard for our bitcoin and those miners just mined bitcoins and depreciated the supply. But I don't think those mining sites maybe sustaining for a long time due to costs is very high, that's those ponzi schemes came out and scam people for their personal will and intentions.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: ss890 on August 14, 2017, 05:07:45 PM
I don't recommend anyone to invest into cloud mining, most of this sites are scam, why would anyone want to pass your money to someone when your funds are being control by them. Basically if the admin of the site decided to shut down the site and run away, investors are basically helpless with absolutely no hopes of getting their money back.

I think looking at all the responses here there should be one system to be incorporated within the forum, which will state the information regarding "investing money into cloud mining"

A special pinned topic to describe the pros and cons of the cloud mining. There should be list of cloud mining services which are legit and which aren't. Well most of them are scams but two three miners are taking it seriously so we can't deny the topic of cloud mining completely. Yes they do shut down the website completely if they found out that they are getting towards the loss and hopefully we can minimise risks of getting victimised by having all new pinned topic. Im hoping to create one by my self to help the noobs.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: sulendra12 on August 15, 2017, 12:18:51 AM
You can try to invest on Cloud Mining like Genesis but don't hope for short profit as you need to wait to get back your investment maybe 6 months depend with your investment as you can clearly see cloud mining isn't a good idea to invest but if you don't mind with it, go ahead.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: JanpriX on August 15, 2017, 03:07:19 AM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

Investing in a mining cloud is a big NO to recommend especially to newbies like you. Please always remember that those sites are 99% scam sites that take money from people who are new to this type of scheme. They will let you deposit your BTC to them but will not return the promised money. It is better for you to level up your rank here in Bitcointalk and then join different campaigns along the way. You'll earn significant amount of BTC by doing that.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: reflector on August 15, 2017, 05:51:17 AM
You can try to invest on Cloud Mining like Genesis but don't hope for short profit as you need to wait to get back your investment maybe 6 months depend with your investment as you can clearly see cloud mining isn't a good idea to invest but if you don't mind with it, go ahead.

If genesis or hashnet. What ever cloud mining that will not give you way make profit. You need to buy the hash power with the high cost to get the profit accordingly. I noticed both kind of the people who are seeing the profit as well as loss. If you are moderate worker in it, consider this as scam or ponzi scheme. Please buy antminer S9, which can be provide a highest end profit in mining platform.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: raymond541 on August 15, 2017, 06:36:02 PM
Obviously no I have done little research about cloud mining.first few days they give you profit and you eager to make more profit and buy more hash power after few days you will see fees are more than outcomes.scammers understand that people are now smart.people knows cloud mining sites are ponzi scheme.they are now taking few times to run out.beware of any cloud mining site you will never benefited.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: pixie85 on August 15, 2017, 09:35:09 PM
Cloud mining shouldn't even be called mining because you can't even be sure if the service provider is mining. Most cloud mining services are protecting their real mining statistics and you'll never know what they were mining and where. They only want you to give them money and shut up for a year or two while they're using it to make more money.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: tabas on August 15, 2017, 10:17:48 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

No, you don't have to invest in cloud mining because they are all scams. It's not good for you newbies to invest there because in the end you will feel upset with the contracts and as well as the possibility that they will runaway from the investors. Learn with other ways of investments as it is the not the only way to invest in cryptos.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: betlord90 on August 15, 2017, 10:40:22 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

No, you don't have to invest in cloud mining because they are all scams. It's not good for you newbies to invest there because in the end you will feel upset with the contracts and as well as the possibility that they will runaway from the investors. Learn with other ways of investments as it is the not the only way to invest in cryptos.

That's why we need to avoid them and to avoid them we shouldn't try to seek any of those kind to invest since as we said for  numerous time cloudmining is totally a scam investment site. And if people who's seeking that doesn't satisfy to our comment much better if they will seek for proper answer for themselves so that they can point out that this scam is project and must needed to avoid.


Title: Re: Mining Cloud. May or Not?
Post by: tabas on August 15, 2017, 11:20:24 PM
Do you all (cryptocurrency experts) recommend us (the newbie) to invest in the mining cloud?
Your answer will be a valuable science for beginners (newbie). Thanks.

No, you don't have to invest in cloud mining because they are all scams. It's not good for you newbies to invest there because in the end you will feel upset with the contracts and as well as the possibility that they will runaway from the investors. Learn with other ways of investments as it is the not the only way to invest in cryptos.

That's why we need to avoid them and to avoid them we shouldn't try to seek any of those kind to invest since as we said for  numerous time cloudmining is totally a scam investment site. And if people who's seeking that doesn't satisfy to our comment much better if they will seek for proper answer for themselves so that they can point out that this scam is project and must needed to avoid.

Just simple avoid them and don't show any interest there. They are completely not going to give you some good profit. We may say that there are some existing cloud mining that pays well to their investors but it isn't enough just for you to try it too.