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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: kooke on May 17, 2013, 04:56:34 AM



Title: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: kooke on May 17, 2013, 04:56:34 AM
He made an auction for WDC and scammed the person who won plus another person: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207832.100

If you compare the past posts of Yacoin to Alternativecypt, you will find that they both run the same type of scam, they both write in a similar style, and they both react exactly the same way when people accuse them of being scammers. This guy Alternativecypt/Yacoin asks people to send a coin to a certain address, then claims he did not receive the coins. When the victim posts proof that they sent the coins to the address, he claims that he gave a different address to the victim and that they are the scammers.

I connected to the victim's computer via TV to view the address of the PMs and confirm that he did indeed send the 40 LTC. Here's a screenshot I took:
https://i.imgur.com/42luN8L.jpg

The coins were sent to this address: LhJfRv5hR5JfPwRDHsaXtqdverpRZ4Tpm3 (http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LhJfRv5hR5JfPwRDHsaXtqdverpRZ4Tpm3)

Also see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201871.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201425.0

EDIT: Oh yeah, they also both have the same time zone, and their accounts were only created days apart. They can both post at the same time with different IPs using proxy servers or TOR. This guy even tried photoshopping screenshots as proof.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: yacoin on May 17, 2013, 04:59:56 AM
I am not AlternativeCypt man


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: AlternativeCypt on May 17, 2013, 05:00:05 AM
LOL! You didn't even BOTHER to compare the time stamps. I posted almost the exact same time as hims, there's no way that that's my account.

I'm 100% sure it's limitless. I brought up limitless and he plays dumb. A minute later he knows who he is.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: AlternativeCypt on May 17, 2013, 05:00:50 AM
right there! He posted 10 seconds before me! It's impossible for it to be my account, retard. Stop throwing out names, fucking hall monitor.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: AlternativeCypt on May 17, 2013, 05:02:16 AM
Yacoin posted at: Today at 04:59:56 AM

I just posted at:    Today at 05:00:05 AM


Tell me how that's possible, please.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: yacoin on May 17, 2013, 05:02:33 AM
we're not the same person


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: Prelude on May 17, 2013, 05:03:29 AM
I'm not accusing AlternativeCypt here, I don't know enough about that. I am accusing Yacoin however. I also connected to megablue via team viewer to confirm, here is the screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/Ilm9j7s.jpg

Fuck scammers.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: yacoin on May 17, 2013, 05:05:09 AM
Yes. I am the scammer. AlternativeCypt is not.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: yacoin on May 17, 2013, 05:05:58 AM
Yacoin posted at: Today at 04:59:56 AM

I just posted at:    Today at 05:00:05 AM


Tell me how that's possible, please.

It's impossible. I am not you. Obvious, but people are stupid.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: AlternativeCypt on May 17, 2013, 05:07:17 AM
OP is personally biased, clearly judging by his signature. No reason to make someone else's scam mine.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: megablue on May 17, 2013, 05:07:29 AM
I am one the victim of the scam. Yacoin scammed me for 40LTC

https://i.imgur.com/IU9jLa9.png

Summary of the situation:
After i won the auction, i send him PMs, requesting his LTC address, he gave me his address: LhJfRv5hR5JfPwRDHsaXtqdverpRZ4Tpm3.
Later on, he claimed that he didn't receive the LTC and post a totally different LTC address claiming that was the address he sent me which is obviously not as confirmed by a few members, Prelude and kooke via sharing my PC access on Teamviewer.
Lastly, he completely ignore my posts and kept on fooling around with non-related posts in his thread.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: champbronc2 on May 17, 2013, 05:07:38 AM
Ok, they are both scammers. Why does it matter if you're the same person?

I sent .44 BTC to Yacoin because s/he told me that megablue was trying to scam her/him and was trying to trade with me.

Yacoin got 2 birds with 1 stone.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: kooke on May 17, 2013, 05:11:39 AM
Yes. I am the scammer. AlternativeCypt is not.

You just admitted that you're a scammer.

BTW, why are you so mad that I'm accusing AlternativeCypt of being a scammer if he's not you?


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: AlternativeCypt on May 17, 2013, 05:12:26 AM
Yes. I am the scammer. AlternativeCypt is not.

You just admitted that you're a scammer.

Yes, yes he did. Please don't mix my name up with his. I've pointed out how that is literally impossible.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: yacoin on May 17, 2013, 05:13:19 AM
Literally impossible that AlternativeCypt and me are the same person.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: champbronc2 on May 17, 2013, 05:14:37 AM
Literally impossible that AlternativeCypt and me are the same person.

Can an admin/mod post Yacoins IP and/or email address or something?

Seems like scammers can do whatever they please without consequence.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: AlternativeCypt on May 17, 2013, 05:16:04 AM
Literally impossible that AlternativeCypt and me are the same person.

Troll: Legend


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: yacoin on May 17, 2013, 05:16:34 AM
But I am not a scammer...

Literally impossible that AlternativeCypt and me are the same person.

Can an admin/mod post Yacoins IP and/or email address or something?

Seems like scammers can do whatever they please without consequence.



Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: Prelude on May 17, 2013, 05:18:00 AM
But I am not a scammer...

I also offere to connect as a viewer to your PC with TV to confirm your PMs and you ignored it. That's proof enough IMO. Megablue had no problems with this, and even offered it.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: AlternativeCypt on May 17, 2013, 05:19:06 AM
But I am not a scammer...

I also offere to connect as a viewer to your PC with TV to confirm your PMs and you ignored it. That's proof enough IMO. Megablue had no problems with this, and even offered it.

Prelude can vouch to the extent that I was PM'ing him at the time of the bid, and the time stamps and IP's are hard PROOFS that Yacoin is not at all affiliated with my account.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: kooke on May 17, 2013, 05:21:43 AM
Yacoin posted at: Today at 04:59:56 AM

I just posted at:    Today at 05:00:05 AM


Tell me how that's possible, please.

I can do that with ease using proxies and multiple accounts. In fact, anyone who is a little tech savvy can do so...

EDIT: They also both go offline at around the same time:
https://i.imgur.com/1uolTmz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tVaEPMt.jpg


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: rbaggio on May 17, 2013, 05:35:06 AM
Yes. I am the scammer. AlternativeCypt is not.

But I am not a scammer...

 ::)


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: pheaonix on May 17, 2013, 07:22:14 AM
literally impossible

lol


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: ebildude123 on May 18, 2013, 02:12:00 PM
right there! He posted 10 seconds before me! It's impossible for it to be my account, retard. Stop throwing out names, fucking hall monitor.
1. Have 2 windows open on 2 different accounts, 1 in tor maybe.
2. Type in a reply to a thread
3. Hit 'Post' a few seconds apart.
Done.  >:(


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: Kouye on May 18, 2013, 03:50:13 PM
right there! He posted 10 seconds before me! It's impossible for it to be my account, retard. Stop throwing out names, fucking hall monitor.
1. Have 2 windows open on 2 different accounts, 1 in tor maybe.
2. Type in a reply to a thread
3. Hit 'Post' a few seconds apart.
Done.  >:(

Yeah, having 2 laptops on the same desk makes this "literally impossible" become child's play.
Why no scammer tag, yet, theymos ?


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: John (John K.) on May 18, 2013, 03:57:38 PM
right there! He posted 10 seconds before me! It's impossible for it to be my account, retard. Stop throwing out names, fucking hall monitor.
1. Have 2 windows open on 2 different accounts, 1 in tor maybe.
2. Type in a reply to a thread
3. Hit 'Post' a few seconds apart.
Done.  >:(

Yeah, having 2 laptops on the same desk makes this "literally impossible" become child's play.
Why no scammer tag, yet, theymos ?
I banned both of them. Waiting for theymos to tag.


Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: joesmoe2012 on June 10, 2013, 08:26:18 PM
Is YaCoin the same as YaCoinYeah?

I was just scammed by YaCoinYeah



Title: Re: Yacoin, AKA AlternativeCypt is a scammer!
Post by: kooke on June 10, 2013, 10:49:40 PM
Is YaCoin the same as YaCoinYeah?

I was just scammed by YaCoinYeah

I certainly would not be surprised if they are the same person.