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Title: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2011, 09:51:15 PM
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Title: Re: Is this really justice?
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2011, 10:02:24 PM
I am curious on the perspective of people who condone the money being taken from the shopkeeper in the name of the first victim. Why shouldn't the victim be looking for the thief instead of the other victims he bought from? Why not repossess the thief's property in the first place as opposed to forcing other people to do the job?


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: rebuilder on June 21, 2011, 10:09:52 PM
The whole thing happened so fast, I don't see how anyone could have liquidated assets and transferred funds into Mt Gox to take advantage of the sell order. If several days had passed, I'd feel differently, but we're talking about a timeframe of less than an hour or so here. Hell, the sell itself was instant. Maybe I'm missing something, I don't see what the actual losses from rolling back the trades are, except for the market effects of this whole ordeal, of course.


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: GeniuSxBoY on June 21, 2011, 10:10:03 PM
The shop keep needs to make sure they're not stolen before he buys them.


Pawn shops usually check a database to see if items are stolen.
If nothing is reported stolen in 24-48 hours, they get to keep them.



PERHAPS we need a website that keeps track of reported stolen bitcoins.


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2011, 10:11:55 PM
The shop keep needs to make sure they're not stolen before he buys them.

Agreed. However, many individuals may not have the knowledge to use such tools. Should they still be held liable?


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: GeniuSxBoY on June 21, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
Education.


There are posters everywhere in school about "Don't do drugs", but people still do them...
There are warnings to change your password, but people still don't do it...


It's your loss if you don't educate yourself when the information is out there.


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2011, 10:16:31 PM
Education.


There are posters everywhere in school about "Don't do drugs", but people still do them.
There are warning to change you password, but people still don't do it.


It's your loss if you don't educate yourself when the information is out there.

Well, still, it's not the most moral method: to seize funds from people other than the original perpetrator. Adding more victims should never be the solution.


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: SgtSpike on June 21, 2011, 10:18:30 PM
I agree Atlas - I don't think it is the best method.  The only pro to doing it that way is that a perp has less incentive to pay or trade for things with the stolen coinage.

US law doesn't agree with us though.


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: lemonginger on June 21, 2011, 10:19:55 PM
How many of these threads are you going to start Atlas?

Just because you are a moderator on the newbie board, that gives you permission to start the 800th thread saying the exact same thing?


Title: Re: Is this really justice? [Bitcoin thefts and such]
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2011, 10:20:55 PM
How many of these threads are you going to start Atlas?

Just because you are a moderator on the newbie board, that gives you permission to start the 800th thread saying the exact same thing?
This thread is a bit different.