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the u.s couldn't even win the Vietnam war and now they are thinking they can fight North Korea in a full-scale nuclear war and win? ???  ???  ???

Whell it is good that North Korea showed American people that they are smart enough to produce better equipment than Americans scientists can do. Hope they will understand that it is not everything about money.

I'm so retarded this is amusing..

everyone know what if war could be it will be war USA with NK&Russia
the same was in Vietnam

They won in Vietnam in a way, because they were fighting against vietcong, and it eventually got defeated. The communism in vietnam that was supported by the Soviets lost, and Russian communism followed the same path.
They wanted to test their arsenal and they did. Was it worth it? I'd say no, but some military scientists would think otherwise.

North Korea is supported unofficially by China I suppose, similar to Vietnam and Russia.

Provoking something that doesn't need to be provoked is stupid. But the real stupidity here is allowing China to get where they did because of mistakes that the US made over 30 years ago. Trump says that "We built China" and yes we did in a way.

Americans may not be stupid but we are very short sighted. Just look at how much debt the average person here is in. This lifestyle kills your future but people are too short sighted to worry about it.

Lol. The point here is that there is actually none who would win for any kind of war. North Korea's nuclear's are clearly pathetic however their seaboards defenses are purely destructive. So even if US has that high powered nuclear it won't stand a chance then we go back again to no one will one and they are just both wasting their assets.

kim jong un

Lets look at the points..

Do you let a dictator get long range nukes also keep on making is nukes even better..

Now lets look at some things that could very well happen..

1 his people have had enough of him being a dictator he runs in his bunker and presses the button..

2 he decides he wants south Korea to be his now he as these powerful nukes we all let him build..

3 he treats his people so bad that we stand by and do nothing because he will set off his nukes
if we try and over throw him ..

4 he goes mad and because he as had enough he wants everyone to join him ..
Now remember in the west we have protocol just in case our leader does go mad our leader is not the only one with the power to press the button we must go through protocol to press the button
kim jong un doesn't he can just press it..

And with him killing his own brother and uncle you really want a man with the power to build nukes
and make them as powerful as he likes..

Now it should of been sorted many years ago but do we really want to let him carry on building his nuke arms up..

Kim jong un as no protocol we westerners do ..

The west is about the people kim jong un is about building himself and his crew and he can press that button when ever he chooses to do so ..DANGEROUS ..

I am shocked stupid leaders from all around the globe let him get this far..
crazy people..Seen the money before the outcome..Giddy with the money  >:(.

The retarded person is rather the one who made this post in the first place, The Americans had no reason in being in Vietnam and they didn't even lose the war, they just abandoned it, Its easy when fighing soldiers in uniforms but when fighting people in civilian clothing its a whole new affair and thats what gave rise to Guerrilla Warfare.

The advantage for the United States is that the North Korean missiles are not capable of targeting the major American cities (if I am not mistaken). So any potential North Korean retaliation will be limited to Japan, South Korea, Guam, Hawaii.etc. But the Americans don't care about the people in these nations/states and so it doesn't matter.

hahahaha lol, they "abandoned it" yeah sure, the u.s got its ass kicked in Vietnam and to prove that they lost the war just go to Vietnam today and you will see that its still a communist nation. america's imperialism couldn't stand a chance against a third world country yet alone they think they can win against north koreans. one small north korean nuke in california will leave the americans crying.

Recently they tested lots of intercontinental ballistic missiles and the official statement is that NK can hit all major cities of U.S. I think it would be a crazy idea to let them fire those. Kim Jong Un do anything and present president of U.S. is.. I think you all got my point.

Here it is not needed so to reason. Do you present as far as forward technologies went away by comparison to Vietnamese war? All clear, that the rockets of north Korea will not fly so far to the USA, and problems in a region the mad leader of north Korea will do.

They don't have to hit a city they can do a high altitude burst for EMP off the coast.

Damn bro, I thought this thread is about Americans doing shitty things usually all races do. Waiting for this war between them 2 countries to erupt but my bet is on US. 

Re vietnam:

That is not correct.
The US might have the lost the fight in vietnam but they definitely won the war there.

Re nokor:

The US could go full retard and just level nokor without any (military) problems.
The price would be small at US soil but sokor and japan would probaly face heavy destruction (conventional, biological and chemical attacks) which would afterwards directly result in a meltdown of the world economy.

Generalising such an enamours group of people is retarded.

Look at Russia

Absolutely yes, americans are retarded and they do not know how to make a war. American governments are always starting wars somewhere in the world but They are always losing all of them. The reason behind these fiascos is american soldiers have no clue about winning a war. For that reason, If there is a war between North korea and Usa, North korea will win without any wounding.

The one posted is retarded. I have american friends and they show very positive attitudes. You must have misunderstood them.

didn't they already win a war in korea before?

Agreed. The United States of America is a huge nation with a population of almost 325 million people. It is a very diverse country, with the Non-Hispanic whites constituting the majority, followed by African Americans, Hispanics and Asians. The minorities are now close to 40% of the population, and their IQ levels are much lower than that of the general population.

THE above post is as offensive and as much more laghale than the contetnt of the topic. the bietnam war was a costly battle and even if we are not zamerocans or directly involved we are still affected of it  same way. that we are still affected by now

donald trump has a small penis but so does kim jong

If we're talking about fire power, I'd say Americans could actually win this. If we are thinking about American Vietnam war, i think that would be a fluke. I'm pretty sure they learned from this mistake because it's a huge mistake. Allies wise, America has alot of nations under their belts. Both countries that owe the US and countries that the US has dirt on. I just hope we won't have to test this theory