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Title: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: alyssa85 on August 13, 2017, 10:05:23 PM https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/government-employee-fined-after-getting-caught-mining-bitcoin-at-work/
Quote According to a recently published disposition, a computer systems manager at New York City’s Department of Education (DOE), named Vladimir Ilyayev, was fined after getting caught using the DOE’s computers to mine bitcoin. According to reports, Vladimir Ilyayev has been working at the DOE for over a decade and, after getting caught, wasn’t fired, but got a fine of four vacation days, worth an estimated $611, by the New York City Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB). The employee installed a bitcoin mining program on the DOE’s computers that ran at night, between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. This went on for an entire month in 2014, before he got caught by the DOE’s Division of Instructional and Information Technology. However, this wasn’t the first time Vladimir Ilyayev attempted to use the DOE’s computer to mine bitcoin. According to the disposition, he made “five or six” attempts to install the bitcoin mining program, and in each one of them he was “thwarted by the DOE security software.” Since he didn’t give up, he eventually managed to bypass security protocols for a month. Four vacation days is a pretty low fine, and I expect he thinks it was all well worth the hassle. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: unamis76 on August 13, 2017, 10:10:58 PM So he was fined for stealing electricity from work... Nothing to see here. He was just happening to use that electricity to mine for Bitcoins... Its these kinds of headlines that get mainstream media attention.
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Mike Mayor on August 13, 2017, 11:51:41 PM So he was fined for stealing electricity from work... Nothing to see here. He was just happening to use that electricity to mine for Bitcoins... Its these kinds of headlines that get mainstream media attention. Yes because people get ridiculous and somehow must up stealing with bitcoins. Maybe it is to make sense of it for them. I don't think people who jump to these conclusions are sharpest knives in the drawer. It is interesting to hear about this I'm sure so many people have though about this or are doing this. You see "news" has to sell so the sensationalize everything to gain attention and make more profits. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Skingoat on August 13, 2017, 11:52:33 PM fined for power theft? lol
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: xhomerx10 on August 14, 2017, 12:01:57 AM I'm not saying he has an excuse for stealing but come on! A computer systems manager making ~$19USD per hour in New York City ...and he's the thief?!
He shouldn't be pulling in less than $40/hr. They might have done him a favour and fired him so he'd have to find a better paying computer systems manager job. edit: Just looked up NYC school secretary salary and they make 60k per year after 10 years of service. Something fishy about the story (at least the value of the fine) Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Yakamoto on August 14, 2017, 12:10:23 AM I'm not saying he has an excuse for stealing but come on! A computer systems manager making ~$19USD per hour in New York City ...and he's the thief?! It's four day's vacation, so I don't think that it is that insane to see a fine in the realm of $611. If he failed to mine something of value greater than that, which is entirely possible considering the hashing power he may have available to him. It was 2014, so he wasn't getting whole Bitcoins and was more on the tip of a bunch of new miners getting involved. $611 is likely more than what he earned between 15 days worth of mining on whatever computer systems he had available to him. Even then, $611 isn't that much, especially since it was in the form of vacation days.He shouldn't be pulling in less than $40/hr. They might have done him a favour and fired him so he'd have to find a better paying computer systems manager job. edit: Just looked up NYC school secretary salary and they make 60k per year after 10 years of service. Something fishy about the story (at least the value of the fine) Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: CrewKitten on August 14, 2017, 12:58:24 AM This is hilarious, and should be expected. If you could mine Bitcoin at work wouldn't you? hahaha
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: xhomerx10 on August 14, 2017, 01:38:02 AM I'm not saying he has an excuse for stealing but come on! A computer systems manager making ~$19USD per hour in New York City ...and he's the thief?! It's four day's vacation, so I don't think that it is that insane to see a fine in the realm of $611. If he failed to mine something of value greater than that, which is entirely possible considering the hashing power he may have available to him. It was 2014, so he wasn't getting whole Bitcoins and was more on the tip of a bunch of new miners getting involved. $611 is likely more than what he earned between 15 days worth of mining on whatever computer systems he had available to him. Even then, $611 isn't that much, especially since it was in the form of vacation days.He shouldn't be pulling in less than $40/hr. They might have done him a favour and fired him so he'd have to find a better paying computer systems manager job. edit: Just looked up NYC school secretary salary and they make 60k per year after 10 years of service. Something fishy about the story (at least the value of the fine) You've failed to understand my post. I fine you the equivalent of 4 vacation days in Bitcoin! You pay here: 1RoMaNiAjSGeGsYJzPjsLUGogbDEsK4TZ Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: szpalata on August 14, 2017, 05:21:46 AM I'm not saying he has an excuse for stealing but come on! A computer systems manager making ~$19USD per hour in New York City ...and he's the thief?! He shouldn't be pulling in less than $40/hr. They might have done him a favour and fired him so he'd have to find a better paying computer systems manager job. edit: Just looked up NYC school secretary salary and they make 60k per year after 10 years of service. Something fishy about the story (at least the value of the fine) Yes exactly, things are not adding up. I don't think he'll stoop so low to mine if he wasn't getting big bucks at the time and the fine imposed on him could be an estimate of what they must have caught him earn. I think some clarity will help us a great deal. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: |Bitkoin| on August 14, 2017, 05:51:04 AM This is funny. Some guy used a supercomputer to mine altcoins a few years ago... only problem is it was his school's. LOL
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: ClvrGmr on August 14, 2017, 06:36:06 AM He's still lucky he didn't get fired you know. I read the comments about contradicting the fine and they say he just stole power or electricity. Well as you can see he did install on a Government Branch/Department, its not appropriate for a person working there to use their computers for personal income. This is just like you are renting for pc on a shop and didn't pay for your consumed hour. See its illegal, its not just a matter of stealing power or electricity, its about he using not his things for his own. Well thats wrong, right? I don't see anything wrong about the fine on him as I said he's lucky, I am suprised he didn't get fired though.
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Kakmakr on August 14, 2017, 07:07:57 AM The guy should receive a merit award for bypassing/TESTING the IT security systems. I would justify my actions by saying that I tested the resilience of the network. ::) I guess a slap on the wrist was enough to avoid the embarrassment that your network was compromised from within.
He will get a promoting soon. Head of ICT security division and Financial Liaison. < They will start a mining division to supplement their budget > ^LoL^ Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: tiggytomb on August 14, 2017, 07:24:20 AM Lucky they didn't fire him for using the systems in that way. back then and I would imagine the power of their system he probably made a very decent amount of bitcoin.
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: aTriz on August 14, 2017, 08:05:14 AM https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/government-employee-fined-after-getting-caught-mining-bitcoin-at-work/ Quote According to a recently published disposition, a computer systems manager at New York City’s Department of Education (DOE), named Vladimir Ilyayev, was fined after getting caught using the DOE’s computers to mine bitcoin. According to reports, Vladimir Ilyayev has been working at the DOE for over a decade and, after getting caught, wasn’t fired, but got a fine of four vacation days, worth an estimated $611, by the New York City Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB). The employee installed a bitcoin mining program on the DOE’s computers that ran at night, between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. This went on for an entire month in 2014, before he got caught by the DOE’s Division of Instructional and Information Technology. However, this wasn’t the first time Vladimir Ilyayev attempted to use the DOE’s computer to mine bitcoin. According to the disposition, he made “five or six” attempts to install the bitcoin mining program, and in each one of them he was “thwarted by the DOE security software.” Since he didn’t give up, he eventually managed to bypass security protocols for a month. Four vacation days is a pretty low fine, and I expect he thinks it was all well worth the hassle. Lol he should have been fired for installing outside software on government/company computers. This really paints a bad picture of Bitcoin, especially to people who are new. Wonder how much Bitcoin he actually got, doesn't seem like he got paid much anyways. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: ubercool on August 14, 2017, 08:17:36 AM https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/government-employee-fined-after-getting-caught-mining-bitcoin-at-work/ Quote According to a recently published disposition, a computer systems manager at New York City’s Department of Education (DOE), named Vladimir Ilyayev, was fined after getting caught using the DOE’s computers to mine bitcoin. According to reports, Vladimir Ilyayev has been working at the DOE for over a decade and, after getting caught, wasn’t fired, but got a fine of four vacation days, worth an estimated $611, by the New York City Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB). The employee installed a bitcoin mining program on the DOE’s computers that ran at night, between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. This went on for an entire month in 2014, before he got caught by the DOE’s Division of Instructional and Information Technology. However, this wasn’t the first time Vladimir Ilyayev attempted to use the DOE’s computer to mine bitcoin. According to the disposition, he made “five or six” attempts to install the bitcoin mining program, and in each one of them he was “thwarted by the DOE security software.” Since he didn’t give up, he eventually managed to bypass security protocols for a month. Four vacation days is a pretty low fine, and I expect he thinks it was all well worth the hassle. Lol he should have been fired for installing outside software on government/company computers. This really paints a bad picture of Bitcoin, especially to people who are new. Wonder how much Bitcoin he actually got, doesn't seem like he got paid much anyways. I dont think he made more than 611$ and should have got fired for installing anything on a company computer. It is the regular routine everywhere in the private sector but for Govt officials its kind of different. If it was in 2010 then he would have kicked them and leave the company because the value would have been in millions. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Doms on August 14, 2017, 08:24:56 AM Are the computers in those facilities high powered enough to mine bitcoins? He seems persistent with this adventure of his and doesn't mind the troubles associated with it. Perhaps it is better to transfer him to another department or make him work his magic in a field where his mining gig might be of better use.
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Mandoy on August 14, 2017, 08:25:31 AM https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/government-employee-fined-after-getting-caught-mining-bitcoin-at-work/ Quote According to a recently published disposition, a computer systems manager at New York City’s Department of Education (DOE), named Vladimir Ilyayev, was fined after getting caught using the DOE’s computers to mine bitcoin. According to reports, Vladimir Ilyayev has been working at the DOE for over a decade and, after getting caught, wasn’t fired, but got a fine of four vacation days, worth an estimated $611, by the New York City Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB). The employee installed a bitcoin mining program on the DOE’s computers that ran at night, between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. This went on for an entire month in 2014, before he got caught by the DOE’s Division of Instructional and Information Technology. However, this wasn’t the first time Vladimir Ilyayev attempted to use the DOE’s computer to mine bitcoin. According to the disposition, he made “five or six” attempts to install the bitcoin mining program, and in each one of them he was “thwarted by the DOE security software.” Since he didn’t give up, he eventually managed to bypass security protocols for a month. Four vacation days is a pretty low fine, and I expect he thinks it was all well worth the hassle. He was nuts. The punishment given to him is just slight. There is wrong in mining bitcoin in the office but if you abuse the use of the property then the office will suffer if those hardware will be damaged. I also tried mining using my office computer and I save electricity and internet bill but the price is also not good. The unit I was mining experienced trouble and after I have a hard time working since the overuse of my pc due to mining has lowered its capacity. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: bit-freedom on August 14, 2017, 08:51:44 AM Wow, I wonder what the value of Bitcoin he mined is. I though mining through computer is not profitable anymore? In any case, four vacation days fine is a light punishment.
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: anon4250158 on August 14, 2017, 09:40:48 AM Wow, I wonder what the value of Bitcoin he mined is. I though mining through computer is not profitable anymore? In any case, four vacation days fine is a light punishment. This was back in 2014 (not sure why it's being reported now) when mining on regular CPUs (I'm guessing they don't have too many high-end GPUs in the Department of Education) was already a waste of time and energy. He only had it running for a month, so probably not much. Even at today's prices I'm guessing he didn't even break even for the value of the vacation days. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: BitcoinSupremo on August 14, 2017, 09:46:20 AM Wow, I wonder what the value of Bitcoin he mined is. I though mining through computer is not profitable anymore? In any case, four vacation days fine is a light punishment. This was back in 2014 (not sure why it's being reported now) when mining on regular CPUs (I'm guessing they don't have too many high-end GPUs in the Department of Education) was already a waste of time and energy. He only had it running for a month, so probably not much. Even at today's prices I'm guessing he didn't even break even for the value of the vacation days. This depends on what he mined. The difficulty for mining Bytecoin back then was really low and you could make a nice amount of such currency for a month. If these PC-s where he mined had a Core i7 3770 or 4770 he should have made a nice amount. Still not worth the vacation days and the fine he got, he could never got from such short amount of time more than 611 USD. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Palmerson on August 14, 2017, 09:52:56 AM Wow, I wonder what the value of Bitcoin he mined is. I though mining through computer is not profitable anymore? In any case, four vacation days fine is a light punishment. This was back in 2014 (not sure why it's being reported now) when mining on regular CPUs (I'm guessing they don't have too many high-end GPUs in the Department of Education) was already a waste of time and energy. He only had it running for a month, so probably not much. Even at today's prices I'm guessing he didn't even break even for the value of the vacation days. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: aTriz on August 14, 2017, 10:07:03 AM https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/government-employee-fined-after-getting-caught-mining-bitcoin-at-work/ Quote According to a recently published disposition, a computer systems manager at New York City’s Department of Education (DOE), named Vladimir Ilyayev, was fined after getting caught using the DOE’s computers to mine bitcoin. According to reports, Vladimir Ilyayev has been working at the DOE for over a decade and, after getting caught, wasn’t fired, but got a fine of four vacation days, worth an estimated $611, by the New York City Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB). The employee installed a bitcoin mining program on the DOE’s computers that ran at night, between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. This went on for an entire month in 2014, before he got caught by the DOE’s Division of Instructional and Information Technology. However, this wasn’t the first time Vladimir Ilyayev attempted to use the DOE’s computer to mine bitcoin. According to the disposition, he made “five or six” attempts to install the bitcoin mining program, and in each one of them he was “thwarted by the DOE security software.” Since he didn’t give up, he eventually managed to bypass security protocols for a month. Four vacation days is a pretty low fine, and I expect he thinks it was all well worth the hassle. Lol he should have been fired for installing outside software on government/company computers. This really paints a bad picture of Bitcoin, especially to people who are new. Wonder how much Bitcoin he actually got, doesn't seem like he got paid much anyways. I dont think he made more than 611$ and should have got fired for installing anything on a company computer. It is the regular routine everywhere in the private sector but for Govt officials its kind of different. If it was in 2010 then he would have kicked them and leave the company because the value would have been in millions. They should have fired him and he could get a better job. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: cybersofts on August 14, 2017, 11:31:34 AM https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/government-employee-fined-after-getting-caught-mining-bitcoin-at-work/ Quote According to a recently published disposition, a computer systems manager at New York City’s Department of Education (DOE), named Vladimir Ilyayev, was fined after getting caught using the DOE’s computers to mine bitcoin. According to reports, Vladimir Ilyayev has been working at the DOE for over a decade and, after getting caught, wasn’t fired, but got a fine of four vacation days, worth an estimated $611, by the New York City Conflicts of Interest Board (COIB). The employee installed a bitcoin mining program on the DOE’s computers that ran at night, between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. This went on for an entire month in 2014, before he got caught by the DOE’s Division of Instructional and Information Technology. However, this wasn’t the first time Vladimir Ilyayev attempted to use the DOE’s computer to mine bitcoin. According to the disposition, he made “five or six” attempts to install the bitcoin mining program, and in each one of them he was “thwarted by the DOE security software.” Since he didn’t give up, he eventually managed to bypass security protocols for a month. Four vacation days is a pretty low fine, and I expect he thinks it was all well worth the hassle. Lol :) this is interesting and a welcome development to bitcoiners all over the world. This is a sign that shows bitcoin will soon go mainstream and get bigger than PayPal and all the credit cards companies. The way i see it, everyday we are making new steps forward toward the bitcoin promised land. Bitcoin is making new headlines everyday and many people are yet to know about the latest technology called bitcoin and very soon they will start coming and knocking our doors trying to buy some bitcoins from us. So guys, my advice here is hold on your bitcoins for now every soon we will be on the rocket to moon :) and bitcoin is our golden ticket, trust! Elon Musk is leaving this planet very soon and we don't wanna be left behind ;D Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: aoihs00 on August 14, 2017, 01:19:10 PM Oh yeah of course they must be punished for it as its illegal anyway. The employer is paying for your nonsense and how they could tolerate that? There is nothing like free money and there is always hard work behind everything.
Oh that great “During that time, I monitored the progress of my bitcoin mining software from my home computer using remote access software.” That is completely against the policy of your employer. We sign the documents and agree to the employer terms that we won’t use or back watch the companies property. I think NY DOE has not got anything wrong in it. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: Xester on August 14, 2017, 01:28:23 PM Punishing him is just fair. The computer, internet connection, and the electricity he was using is owned by the government. And to think that at the time of his duty he is doing that thing, it is really bad as an employee. We have sworn to serve the people and using the property of the government to acquire or earn is definitelt and obviously worth punishing.
The punishment of four days is not good if I will be the director of the school. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: An0nyMoose on August 14, 2017, 06:17:57 PM This guy was stealing electricity and time from his work, and I think it is fair to punish/fire him because it isn't right (as much as I like Bitcoin). :P
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: xplorer79 on August 14, 2017, 06:32:03 PM I'm sure almost 99% computing power and related electricity in the world is wasted with computer idle power, so this guy did something good ;D
Just kidding... Mining on your own idle hardware is a thing, mining on your company (tax payers ?) idle hardware is another. He sould have not done that, and he would have been basically fired from every company for doing it. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: audaciousbeing on August 14, 2017, 07:30:12 PM The employee actually forgot that he has signed a non-conflict agreement and even by default not to use the company assets for other purposes other than official duties but I am happy for him though because he was only given a slap on the wrist for what he did. In other climes, he would have lost that job but either way, he would have made more money or else, that would amount to double tragedy for him. A lot of us is actually guilty of this especially several who has access to unlimited internet in the office we tend to misuse such opportunity.
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: iram3130 on August 14, 2017, 07:48:09 PM I think there was no need for any punishment for that work. I have seen lots of government official take all the resources and mine. The only problem he got into is that he got caught.
Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: justdimin on August 14, 2017, 07:58:16 PM This is funny. Some guy used a supercomputer to mine altcoins a few years ago... only problem is it was his school's. LOL What is wrong with mining bitcoins with someone else computers? It is not a crime as far as I can see. They are not harming anyone. Do these organizations who charge for such acts think that their precious resources are being misused? It is pathetic to do so. Well, if this is happening then it is better to not try out such things.Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: xplorer79 on August 14, 2017, 08:33:14 PM What is wrong with mining bitcoins with someone else computers? It is not a crime as far as I can see. They are not harming anyone. Here I could agree. I tend to think "if it is not forbidden, it is allowed". Mining falls there. But if I understand it well, this guy mined on tax payers computers / money. There is a moral thing here. Even if I think wasted computer power should be mining, I have no right to decide what to do with tax payers money. Maybe one day, a law will tell "every tax payer free computing power could be allocated to making money", and I would agree with it. But regarding current laws, this guy just stole free computing power and nuclear (already producted energy that could not be stored) energy. Title: Re: NY Government Employee Fined for Mining Bitcoin at Work Post by: craZyLovE0916 on August 14, 2017, 09:16:15 PM I can't blame this guy for what he did, but he does deserve to get in trouble now because this is not fair to his coworkers or boss who pays for the electrical expenses that he was taking for free. It was a nice try, but he could have also saved his money from his job instead of trying to steal from the company and now going to pay the price. :P
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