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I found http://www.nvminer.com/ (http://www.nvminer.com/). There's company info and it exists but with another name http://california-companies.com/advanced-ops-server-inc.10047344.company.v2 (http://california-companies.com/advanced-ops-server-inc.10047344.company.v2). News tab is up to date. Price to performance of those miners is outstanding. Any thoughts?

Well sure as hell looks good but cannot comment on legitimacy by just a well laid out website and product description. Tried to contact them yet via email and such?

Answear I got from them:



Just noticed they created topic after my email.

my dad always told me, if it's to good to be true, it probably is.

most 6 gpu rigs will set you back about 2000 usd.

and they are selling a 8 rig for the price of what you normally build a 6 gpu rig?
with integrated switch, and rack chassis.

for all that the price should be closer to 3000 usd

for me this sounds like a scam,

I'm happy to test one, if they want and give a review.

The domain has been around just over a month.


Registered On
2017-07-11
Updated On
2017-07-14

And they don't take Credit cards.  So two worries when I look for miners.

I had posted this response in their thread earlier:


While I do not know for sure if it is a scam, the familiar looking chassis configuration, and cramming that much GPU processing power into a 1U chassis (1.75" height) seems a bit improbable. Even if someone did put that many GPUs on a single motherboard, getting rid of the heat would be the main challenge and I just don't see it here. Those small fans used in these types of chassis can certainly spin fast but just cannot compete with overall airflow needed to cool such an arrangement. Maybe if this were a 2U or 4U rig, but 8 GPUs worth of heat in a 1.75 inch high enclosure?

Plus since they take Bitcoin only they can use any physical address to lend legitimacy (probably stole it from company you linked above who knows nothing about them), then create a website, Photoshop a couple of obscure network appliance images with their logo and part number, and presto instant legitimate looking business. I would say if you like your Bitcoin it is best to keep it and not give it away to these fellows.

pretty clearly a scam to me... basically 8 1070s somehow cooled in a 1U enclosure selling for $3200...lol that is cheaper than you could find 8x1070 right now, then add in the magical cooling, mobo, cpu, ram, network switch....
Come on guys, please dont entertain this guy

Why are you so angry, guys?

As our engineers reports - they solved cooling problem.
First model with 8x GPU's never had any cooling problems,

The 16x model is more difficult, but we solved this task too.

Why everybody think that 4x port switch - is something magical??
We have developed many of server equipment, and one 5 ports Ethernet chip - is the smallest problem in all this case, but it is really convenient, isn't it?

where are any real pictures of devices?  That pictures on the website anyone with some proper skills can do.

This definitely sounds suspicious. Posting videos of a working device will help ease concerns.

Scam.

How can we send videos, and photos of devices, that we haven't made yet? What are stupid messages,

We are the StartUp!

Our management did not allocate enough money for these research.
But we have done most of development work by ourselves.
That is why we need pre-orders to complete some pre-production test, and run the production line.

Then you will get an pictures, direct sales, and so on.

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NVMiner official thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2094508.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2094508.0)

As many people still have a Doubts, we've got permission to make some photos in our Lab.

Next week we will publish some reports of our research, with photos included.

All information will be on our web site. https://www.nvminer.com (https://www.nvminer.com)

Thanks.

Official statement

As our employees staged a flame on the Internet, we decided to clarify questions concerning our company, privacy policy, and other issues.
1) We are a closed company. Many of our research and development are classified.
2) We have been developing software and networking equipment for more than 10 years, including for global corporations.
3) We have not divulged and will not disclose any of the personal information of our employees and other engaged persons.
4) NVMiners Crew decided to use BTC for several reasons, One of the key reason is that Our corporate policy does not allow receiving money from individuals.
5) Some of the NVMiner's project research are also classified information and will not be published.
5.1) Each device sent will be sealed. Opening of a seal - deprives the device warranty.
6) All of research of NVMiner project is a property of Advanced Ops Server Inc.
7) We gave sufficient authority to the NVMiners Crew, but we continue to monitor the process and reserve the right to intervene at any time.
8) All offensive comments on ours project can be transferred to the legal department.
9) Any accusation that does not have evidence from your side can be regarded as an attempt to impede the company's activities.
10) Meanwhile, NVMiners Crew has released the promised press release, that can be found here: https://www.nvminer.com/review?re=btx2 (https://www.nvminer.com/review?re=btx)


Hopefully this will put an end to doubts and useless discussions.
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Advanced Ops Server Inc.

I think you have to first decide if you're startup or
 "We have been developing software and networking equipment for more than 10 years, including for global corporations."

This company is not "Advanced Ops Server, Inc.". Whoever is "nvminer" is using our identity without our permission or knowledge.  We just found out about these people using our identity this morning when we got a phone call to or office from someone asking about these mining servers. THIS IS NOT OUR PRODUCT OR OUR COMPANY. If the owner of "nvminer" is reading this, please cease and desist immediately from using our company identity.

woops! it looks like "nvminer" pretends to be "Advanced Ops Server, Inc"? And now the owner comes out...
http://california-companies.com/advanced-ops-server-inc.10047344.company.v2
ADVANCED OPS SERVER INC is REGISTERED BUSINESS company incorporated in California with identification number of C3058680. Company was incorporated on 2007-12-13, so the age of company is approximately 9.7 years. ADVANCED OPS SERVER INC detailed status is Active. Registration address: VALENCIA, CA 91355.


Basic status information:
REGISTERED BUSINESS
Business code:
C3058680
Business title:
ADVANCED OPS SERVER INC
Addresses:
1. VALENCIA, CA 91355
2. 28110 AVENUE STANFORD #D, VALENCIA, CA 91355

@nvminer_asic
scam or not, please explain this

We have already reported about this "owner" to the moderator.
We think it is one of Offended forum users, that trying to compromise us.

Really upset now.

I could take a picture outside of their supposed place of business. You won't find them there.

P.S. I work for the real Advanced Ops. Our business has nothing to do with cryptocurrencies.

Where are you guys getting from???!

Yes, please. give us a pictures! It will be interesting!!!

I took some pictures, and even went inside. For some reason you weren't there. Got anything else smart to say?

https://i.imgur.com/dLHeivU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/X3b3g7C.jpg

Looks familiar!
Oh wait, it does not matter! You are saying "P.S. I work for the real Advanced Ops. Our business has nothing to do with cryptocurrencies."
So... where are you working? what floor? office?

Deflection is a weak response. How about you show us something. Should I post a picture of the parking you don't work at next?

Ultra P.S. How long do you think Cloudflare is gonna stand behind you? I don't know which country you are from, but in the USA impersonating another business is called fraud. Which I'm fairly certain breaks your ToS with cloudflare... so enjoy the scam while it lasts I guess?

This is a serious statement! What is your name and position in "your" company? The photos is not important. And where exactly at this address are you working at?! Office number? Floor? Anything? Phone number?

This is against the law, don't forget about it.

Moderators??? Can you stop this activities?
Could you please give us at least IP address of this users?

It's so sweet to find you pretend to be completely innocent. Zero explanation.

I'd be certainly willing to meet you in front of 28110 Avenue Stanford Unit D, Valencia, CA (or the Starbucks around the corner if you really want). However I am not a complete bafoon and I have shit to do during the day, so I have some conditions. We can set up a meeting to discuss this, but I will only meet you once you post your own picture of the placard with your business address on it.

P.S. I don't exepct any such picture to materialize. It is highly likely you aren't even in the state of California.

WHY DID NOT ANSWER To one simple question???
>>What is your name and position in "your" company? And where exactly at this address are you working at?! Office number? Floor? Anything? Phone number? I mean "our company" phone number???

Please! Give us a hope!!!



P.S. Still asking for IP addres of this user from moderators or admins?!

P.P.S. Got any mail statements for your supposed business? I do.
https://i.imgur.com/9hjwgRV.jpg

However I suppose you'll just say anyone could fake this. It's funny though, as I'm the only one with statements that say Advanced Ops Server, Inc or the address you supposedly do business at. Personally I am really intrigued to see how you will convince people that you aren't the fake. So far you are losing that battle.

Also the bitcointalk moderators aren't coming to your rescue. No one has broken any rules in this thread as far as I am aware, so guess what? The thread is not going to be deleted. The thread which clearly shows who is lying and who is desperately attempting to throw shade. I know you REALLY want this thread to be deleted, but I don't think that is going to happen.

If you were REALLY smart, you would just use some new business's info to impersonate. As I'm going to be back here every day on this forum, and any other I find people even mentiong nvminer, until you remove any and all references of Advanced Ops from your website.

You should feel safe though, as apparently bitcointalk takes no action against scammers (you in this situation). So they'll let you continue to post your lies here. I hope you enjoy seeing more of me  ;D.

P.S. You still didn't answer to one simple question....

End of discussion.

Hehe this thread is so funny xD

So are they real deal or not?

It is not funny anymore.
When this guys can't find any real proof of scam, they just start doing this things.

What discussion? lol

The only thing everyone see's here is someone deflecting. Unwilling to identify their own company or the people that work there. Who would do business with a company too afraid to even list their C level officers? Go back to sleep bro, we'll chat more tomorrow I'm sure.

No, they aren't legit. And THANK GOD, no one has paid them yet. BTC wallet info: https://blockchain.info/address/12PAjQ9MYkc7S29w2EFvQfFTw7XHzs5jmh

GOT You! BTC address was given for your order, Mr Dylan Sama? I think it is not the real name of course.

Are you some hacker?
Are you trying to get information from us to hack our the server? That is why we need cloudflare.
To keep away from guys like you.

Good to know you have zero concern for your customer's privacy and information. Is this the level of professionalism you bring to all your scams?

Really though, do you seriously believe that ANYONE on this forum believes you? Sit back for a second and consider... cause I don't think you realize what it is you do every time you post.

Of course, we Involved our security department.

Unfortunately, we assume that you are the same offended user... with supposed name Dylan Bowles

P.S.> We never asked someone to believe it or not. It supposed to be an technical discussion only. Not advertising.

Well guess what friend? Whether you thought this was a technical discussion or not (it never was), everyone rightfully believes you are running a scam. You are impersonating an actual company, which they don't really care too much for.

We've already notified Cloudflare of your violation of their ToS via their abuse form (https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/form). It's only a matter of time before they shut you off. You seriously picked the wrong company to impersonate random foreign guy, shoulda went with a mom & pop's place. My personal suggestion, you get our name, business code, and address off your site pronto. Maybe then you can at least continue to use Cloudflare, but at least you won't be using our name as a form of legitimacy.

Anyways, how long do you seriously believe this lie will last? You know that you aren't Advanced Ops Server, Inc that works out of Valencia, CA. Maybe you are an Advanced Ops Server in Europe or some shit, but you certainly aren't in fucking California with that address or business code. Do you seriously believe Cloudflare will continue hosting you after they find out you are impersonating a legitimate USA company and accepting payments?

No one is making a $2k or $3k investment without checking into it first. Everyone who goes to your site is googling nvminer. The first hit is the bitcointalk forum, which would only make it a matter of time before they find this thread or the other. I know you are just a lil scammer trying to make it in this tough world, but you aren't going to get anymore traction with this one. It's time to come up with a new scam and start fresh.

...and that is why we think that you just trying to extort money from us for your silence.

No one here wants your money. We want you to stop scamming people.

Hey all! Newbie here, decided to make an account on this site just to chime in.

I'm the one who discovered that the business information on your website was incorrect.
Want to know why? If it seems to good to be true it probably is.

I wanted to get ahold of Advanced Ops Servers to try and purchase an "X12" in person and in cash because I am only a couple hours from Valencia and figured I'd be able to get my hands on this screamin deal first.

But then red flags started popping up in my head. Reading over the website and seeing so many mistakes in english grammar raised the first red flag, especially since you claimed to be from california. The second was that you ONLY accept bitcoin... how convenient. Third was that there wasn't a single phone number to reach customer service.

So you know what I did? Reverse company lookup (actually just googled Advanced Ops Servers Valencia) and BINGO! a phone number. So i gave them a call. The fellow that answered has absolutely ZERO clue what i was talking about, but was able to confirm the address. He was also confused on where i heard their name from since i was referencing crypto. He said that they have nothing to do with crypto or mining there of.

So this is just a second hand CONFIRMATION! NVMiner.com is a SCAM SCAM SCAM!! Stay far away if you cherrish your bitcoin.

I just pray that enough people were keen enough to the errors to do a little research before sending you fakes so much money.

I only have the same hopes that no one has actually bought into this.

Thanks so much for that call (it wasn't me on the phone btw). We never would have known about this otherwise.

If my company will be compromised, I think that I will not start useless discussions on the forums, I will call to the appropriate authorities.
But IF I still would like to prove something to strangers, I will probably record some video, sitting in my office, say my name, job title, so everybody can see my face and office. Then i would publish this video. End of discussion, isn't it?

It is just Offended forum participants decided to mock
IMHO

Another newbie here, decided to make an account.... but HE is the one!

What are the stupid discussion?
What was the phone number you dialed?
What is the job title of that guy "nicholi"? What is his name? Where his office is?

blah blah blah...

Hi nvminer guy, creating multiple accounts and using the exact same language you always use ("offended person") isn't fooling anyone. You are stupider than I thought, but please keep posting ;D.

4) NVMiners Crew decided to use BTC for several reasons, One of the key reason is that Our corporate policy does not allow receiving money from individuals.

 RED FLAG SCAM WARNING.

haha, well done sirs. I have to admit the scammer at least made a decent effort. Nevertheless, he got ripped apart pretty quickly

Get out scammer!
Gj guys!

Official statement (update.2)

We are very upset, having received so many negative posts from you.
None of you don't even try to think, that we can be real.
You deliberately distort the facts related to our technology published by us.
And even pretending to be our employees, using information published on our resources.

We are a closed company and don't wait any guests behind our doors.
We try to separate NVminer project from our main business.
That is why we have some payment and other restrictions.

Some of you wrote earlier about the 3D device model, that any person who has such skills can do it. It is true.
You also have to admit that any team having required skills can develop device like ours. That is why we restrict some technical information, which we considered unique.

You have achieved your goal - Our team is demoralized.
We forbid our team to communicate here.

However, we already have enough paid pre orders to make a scam, as all of you expect.
But we will keep going, and when we will have something more real to show, maybe we will publish it here.

We also want to note, that our team is international. So forgive them for a grammar.
We also apologize for the rude behavior of our employees, this will not happen again.
They consider it as a personal insult. We can understand that.

IF you have some Real questions to us, please be our guests, we have launched an open feedback on our web site.

Thanks for your attention, anyway.

TL;DR
Get fucked you lying scammer.


I am upset that you are such a bold faced liar. Fortunately for me you are an incredibly bad liar ;D.


Lie #1. No one is pretending to be your employees. YOU are impersonating Advanced Ops Server, Inc.
https://i.imgur.com/dLHeivU.jpg (http://imgur.com/dLHeivU)
https://i.imgur.com/X3b3g7C.jpg (http://imgur.com/X3b3g7C)
Here is the location you supposedly work at... suspiciously it is NOT a place that works in cryptocurrency. Interesting.

I even have a piece of mail here (a bank statement) of the real Advanced Ops.
https://i.imgur.com/9hjwgRV.jpg (http://imgur.com/9hjwgRV)
Interesting how I have this... do you have ANY mail at all for your supposed company? Even junk/spam mail (so you don't inadvertendly show us any secrets!) to show us you are real? No, you don't.

Lie #2. You don't have a company or a place of business. You don't work in Valencia, CA. You aren't even in California. This is a blatant lie. Take a pic of you holding up a current dated copy of The Signal (local paper, you'd know if you actually lived here).

Lie #3. Let's be real, the only reason you don't accept other forms of payment is because that would make you traceable (and accountable) to the people you scam. A tech company in California that only accepts BTC? Bullshit. Stripe (https://stripe.com/) is so easy to use a child could set it up.

I haven't achieved my goal, yet. Once you remove our name from your website I will stop hounding you. I promise you this, just remove it. Use some other company. Otherwise I'm going to find you on the next forum, the next reddit thread, the next blog post and I'm going to show them the same things I've done here. They are going to quickly realize you are a scam. If you'd like to be a more profitable scam, I suggest you remove the name. Unless you really like someone constantly revealing that you are a liar on the internet.
https://i.imgur.com/7Eecosx.png (http://imgur.com/7Eecosx)
See these things? Remove them.

Doubt you'll ever show your face here again.

I think this is the most damaging photo on their website. 

https://s29.postimg.org/5hsqt8r87/IMG_1706.jpg

https://postimg.org/image/91eoj1txv/ (https://postimg.org/image/91eoj1txv/)

If you look at the wall outlets, especially the two round recessed ones.  That is not how the USA place outlets.  Most officers would have 2 or 4 120V outlets in a rectangular or square pattern. If it it was a 240V it would look different for a commercial application.   Also the plugs are not recessed.  In fact in the USA the standard is flat or raised for plug placement. 

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/269294/difference-between-110v-and-220v-power-outlet (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/269294/difference-between-110v-and-220v-power-outlet)

>>Our team is demoralized

you are demoralized because people quickly realized what is going on.

sad and pathetic attempt for scam.

if anyone falls for this, then they dont deserve their bitcoins.

There will always be some scammers, there is nothing we can do about it.

I have no pity for imbeciles that fall for this incredibly blatant lie.

 European style - not used in NORTH AMERICA (much less the US).

 I'm pretty sure that style is also used in some Commonwealth countries (but NOT Canada, which follows pretty close on US standards) and some of the Colonial area European ex-colonies.
 Not sure about Asia, been too many decades since I've been there and I don't remember what their outlets looked like in the places I DID visit.

So 101% that this is a scam
SCAM ALERT
It's so hard to believe that a tech startup in California does not want or can not share their team profile, and team members do not even have any LinkedIn information...
This funny, they must think people are so stupid to believe them and send bitcpins to them

yep,
some of Asia country still use EU type.

Looks like their host finally turned them off, cloudflare is now serving cache of their site.

So you get angry when we called you scam and you even release statement complaining about the users of this forum because they did not(  give you a chance to scam) . Yet even in you statement you clearly declared that you are scammer !! HOW come you take prepaid orders on something that is not yet real !! I just colored the part you said with red .  ???

hehe, BUSTED. Good job guys, the page is offline, I hope permanently.

This is a weird thread.  Can this be closed please?

I don't really see a heavy history trust there. It's something that you might want to sit back and look at for a while before you go diving in. Online Cloud mining rental is not something that's going to ever be lucrative for you but the fact is those people could be mining with those machines all by themselves and making money but stead what they're doing is pushing the loss off on to their clients.