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Title: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Webengers on June 22, 2011, 05:12:18 AM
I was thinking about this, "how could it ever be secure" type thing..

I use encryption every time, and could even transfer my wallet to a usb drive or a vps that was powered down or something like that, but no mattter what I do a good keylogger/dataminer owning is enough to screw me.

Could you somehow transfer a wallet onto an RFID chip and have it embedded into you (in your brain?), or potentially even something as dumb as a usb drive embedded in you.

I'll bet I lose every bit of physical and virtual data that I have before I lose my mind..

Sorry couldn't resist.


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Mark Oates on June 22, 2011, 05:25:20 AM
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Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Now we're talkin!! ;D 8)

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I'll bet I lose every bit of physical and virtual data that I have before I lose my mind..
BitBills (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitbills) were a move toward solving the problem.  The keys were embedded into the bills so that the only way to have them was to hold the physical bill.  No fear of hacking.  BitBills are now back-ordered due to demand.


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: allbitcoin on June 22, 2011, 05:29:04 AM
Here's what you need: https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello (https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello) :)

Replace the 'Hello' part of the URL with your (preferably encrypted) private key, print out the result and take it to your local tattoo artist.

And hope he doesn't make a mistake! :P


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Mark Oates on June 22, 2011, 05:33:08 AM
Here's what you need: https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello (https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello) :)

Replace the 'Hello' part of the URL with your (preferably encrypted) private key, print out the result and take it to your local tattoo artist.

And hope he doesn't make a mistake! :P
Dude!  That's brilliant!   :o ;D 8)


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Webengers on June 22, 2011, 05:42:41 AM
Here's what you need: https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello (https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello) :)

Replace the 'Hello' part of the URL with your (preferably encrypted) private key, print out the result and take it to your local tattoo artist.

And hope he doesn't make a mistake! :P

Holy shit..

I've never had anything that I wanted tattoo'd on my body before. That's insane.

I vow to you all now that I WILL do this.

Can someone verify for me that this will work..

I've never had a tattoo before, how big are we talking?



Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: nemo on June 22, 2011, 05:43:47 AM
It will work, until someone takes your picture, or you cut/burn yourself. What if you get fat?


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Webengers on June 22, 2011, 05:44:44 AM
Here's what you need: https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello (https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chs=150x150&cht=qr&chl=Hello) :)

Replace the 'Hello' part of the URL with your (preferably encrypted) private key, print out the result and take it to your local tattoo artist.

And hope he doesn't make a mistake! :P

Holy shit..

I've never had anything that I wanted tattoo'd on my body before. That's insane.

I vow to you all now that I WILL do this.

Can someone verify for me that this will work..

I've never had a tattoo before, how big are we talking?



Wait a minute.. Skin stretches.. Also then anyone with a QR reader could steal my wallet just by getting me drunk and taking advantage of me..


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: allbitcoin on June 22, 2011, 05:53:37 AM
Wait a minute.. Skin stretches.. Also then anyone with a QR reader could steal my wallet just by getting me drunk and taking advantage of me..

I said encrypted key! Though if you're drunk you may also blurt out the password...

Seriously though - for the love of all that is Bitcoin, please nobody tattoo QR codes on yourselves!


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Webengers on June 22, 2011, 05:53:49 AM
I was thinking about this, "how could it ever be secure" type thing..

I use encryption every time, and could even transfer my wallet to a usb drive or a vps that was powered down or something like that, but no mattter what I do a good keylogger/dataminer owning is enough to screw me.

Could you somehow transfer a wallet onto an RFID chip and have it embedded into you (in your brain?), or potentially even something as dumb as a usb drive embedded in you.

I'll bet I lose every bit of physical and virtual data that I have before I lose my mind..

Sorry couldn't resist.

Now that is funny  ;D    on a serious not check my sig. lol

Any third party storage service is no better than a brick and mortar bank.
I want something physical that cannot be lost and cannot be turned off. An RFID implant would seem to be the way to go..


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Webengers on June 22, 2011, 05:56:42 AM
Wait a minute.. Skin stretches.. Also then anyone with a QR reader could steal my wallet just by getting me drunk and taking advantage of me..

I said encrypted key! Though if you're drunk you may also blurt out the password...

Seriously though - for the love of all that is Bitcoin, please nobody tattoo QR codes on yourselves!

Whatever.. this guy just posted "What would you do for a Bitcoin" in the newbie forum..
If you can raise a good bounty I'll get the QR code for my personal url tattoo'd on me.

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20953.msg262524#msg262524

I'll even up the bounty a little bit.. My mother is a southern baptist fundamentalist christian who thinks that social security numbers represent the mark of the beast.


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: bitprotection on June 22, 2011, 05:57:24 AM
I was thinking about this, "how could it ever be secure" type thing..

I use encryption every time, and could even transfer my wallet to a usb drive or a vps that was powered down or something like that, but no mattter what I do a good keylogger/dataminer owning is enough to screw me.

Could you somehow transfer a wallet onto an RFID chip and have it embedded into you (in your brain?), or potentially even something as dumb as a usb drive embedded in you.

I'll bet I lose every bit of physical and virtual data that I have before I lose my mind..

Sorry couldn't resist.

Now that is funny  ;D    on a serious not check my sig. lol

Any third party storage service is no better than a brick and mortar bank.
I want something physical that cannot be lost and cannot be turned off. An RFID implant would seem to be the way to go..

You are correct an implant is the way to go ..you can't loose it ... but reality is that won't happen and yes people are going to loose their wallets...


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Webengers on June 22, 2011, 05:59:35 AM
I was thinking about this, "how could it ever be secure" type thing..

I use encryption every time, and could even transfer my wallet to a usb drive or a vps that was powered down or something like that, but no mattter what I do a good keylogger/dataminer owning is enough to screw me.

Could you somehow transfer a wallet onto an RFID chip and have it embedded into you (in your brain?), or potentially even something as dumb as a usb drive embedded in you.

I'll bet I lose every bit of physical and virtual data that I have before I lose my mind..

Sorry couldn't resist.

Now that is funny  ;D    on a serious not check my sig. lol

Any third party storage service is no better than a brick and mortar bank.
I want something physical that cannot be lost and cannot be turned off. An RFID implant would seem to be the way to go..

You are correct an implant is the way to go ..you can't loose it ... but reality is that won't happen and yes people are going to loose their wallets...

Yes, you wouldn't want to lose your wallet because your skin got too loose. Does anyone know if a QR code would retain it's shape as a tattoo? I imagine it would if it were smaller, but then it would hold less data...


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: Webengers on June 22, 2011, 02:04:15 PM
Bump because some guy actually sent me BTC last night and wants me to get a QR code tattoo now and I need to know if this will work.


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: allbitcoin on June 22, 2011, 08:50:30 PM
Bump because some guy actually sent me BTC last night and wants me to get a QR code tattoo now and I need to know if this will work.

Please don't do it, it's a terrible idea. How many BTC did you get? Is it really worth permanently defacing your body for?


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: TiagoTiago on June 22, 2011, 09:31:22 PM
I'll repeat what i suggested in a similar thread: engrave it in a titanium plate and replace a chunk of your skull


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: dodgrr on June 23, 2011, 12:00:42 AM
sounds perfectly reasonable to me  ;)


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: MadCoinMan on June 23, 2011, 12:06:58 AM
I do like the idea of my coins dying with me. This way the government gets zilch of my earned monies!  ;D


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: dodgrr on June 23, 2011, 12:18:12 AM
you can't take it with you.. or can you? :D


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: unk on June 23, 2011, 02:10:45 AM
I'll bet I lose every bit of physical and virtual data that I have before I lose my mind..

if so, then a much simpler and more elegant solution is simply to train yourself to memorize the private key corresponding to the address to which you've committed funds.

it's not that hard to do. mnemonic devices may help. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system

moreover, theoretically, though at a risk to security, you could generate a private key that's easier for you to remember than a randomly selected one.


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: TiagoTiago on June 23, 2011, 02:14:08 AM
Of course, there is always the option of using gene therapy to write the keys somewhere in your junk DNA


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: aahzmundus on June 23, 2011, 04:51:57 AM
Of course, there is always the option of using gene therapy to write the keys somewhere in your junk DNA

What, and have to scrub down every day like in Gattaca?  I think not....


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: xalex on June 24, 2011, 02:19:28 PM
Tattoos are really not something for me, those things are permanent..

This would be a lot cooler:
http://hackaday.com/2008/10/15/diy-rfid-implant/

I really want this for opening the front door of my apartment. I assume a chip like this will store a private key as well ;)


Title: Re: Can I embed my wallet into my brain? or my skin?
Post by: da2ce7 on June 24, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
Yep! It is easy:  see the proposal that I wrote here: https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=11665.0  :D