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Real name - Shinichi Mochizuki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinichi_Mochizuki)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emDJTGTrEm0

Now we can let go of the question "Who is Satoshi?" being asked 53453 times a day.

If you want a pic too..

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/2012-03-30-mochizuki-shinichi.jpg


And more about the ABC conjecture:

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/349199/description/A_theorem_in_limbo_shows_that_QED_is_not_the_last_word_in_a_mathematical_proof

And Satoshi-like behavior:

"Mathematicians began clamoring for Mochizuki to explain the kernel of his ideas, but he refused. Mochizuki has, however, been happy to answer specific questions by e-mail."

CV:

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/Curriculum%20Vitae.pdf

This guy apparently has zero programming experience.

Tearing apart his background and character in order to discredit Bitcoin in 5....4....3....2...

Actually, I am not convinced either.

In this blog, in Feb 2009, Mochizuki was refining a mathematical theory when Satoshi was fixing post-live bugs in the first version of bitcoin software.

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/thoughts-english.html

He looks like "my" Satoshi Nakamoto

I don't suppose we could ban these threads, could we? Every day, two new people come forward insisting two different people we've never heard of are definitely Satoshi.

The guy's whole theory is based on the idea that since this math guy is a loner who sprung his mathematical proof on the world, he is like Satoshi being a loner springing his Bitcoin concept on the world.

I doubt that Satoshi would be Japanese too...and it was claimed that his writing was very british.

dat disinfo

Is this thread any different from this one?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=209449.0

Could you change the title to be less misleading, please?
It's not known, it's speculation.

It's not very hard for someone as elusive as Satoshi to fake his writing style.

This.

Are you sure? Apparently he actually does know c++...


I have made some googling and some people were discussing it on May, 11th, in several mail lists... check this out:

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/80709

Especially since Satoshi probably isn't Japanese.

Why does everyone keep saying that he can't be Japanese?

 ???

It's known... just not to most people.

At least one person knows who Satoshi is.

Technically this is only true if you assume that he is still alive.

Unless you get metaphysical and count God.

If you do this then at least two "persons" would know who Satoshi is :P

Check out "Satoshi's" website...  very professional! (http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/top-english.html)  No it's probably just a guise, right?

my 7am tinfoil hat moment.
maybe mochizuki didnt write bitcoin. maybe a robot twin did
http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/dan/androids/geminoid.jpg

ok that was for laughs, but seriously lets move this mochizuki myth to the speculation or trash thread.

Lewl.

The Fast Company piece got this part right:

"Nakamoto would have to be "a world-class programmer"
with "a deep understanding" of C++ the programming language
and an extensive background in cryptography, economics,
and peer-to-peer networking."

"Knows C++" is a million miles from "world-class programmer"...
Which requires a 5-10 year obsession...
Plus all of the other expertise listed...
Not to mention business experience to structure a First Adopter Ponzi scheme.

But I'm sure if Nakamoto exists... he is 35-45.

My guess is it's Grigori !!!

http://www.kokeytechnology.com/internet-news/russian-mathematician-rejects-1-million-dollar-prize-reward-for-solving-a-hundred-year-old-math-problem/


http://photosnpics.kokeytechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Grigori-Perelman.jpg

Lol, guess we didn't realize just how many amazing people just don't want the credit.

OP is a sensationalist.  Nothing is known until you find proof.  What a let-down.

I was kidding, kinda disappointing that you did not detect it straight away.

As probably the only forum member to have actually met Shinichi Mochizuki, I can assure you that he isn't Satoshi. Shinichi is a genius without bounds as evident by his work on the ABC conjecture; however, he seems far more interested in Teichmüller theory than monetary policy. Number theorists don't instantly make good cryptographers. Now if someone asserted Satoshi is Wenbo Mao or Dan Boneh, I'd be far more inclined to believe them.

Who said he actually wrote the program? He might have worked with a couple of other people to make Bitcoin.

Why would he need it? A person like this could read {insertLanguage} in 21 days! and actually understand everything and then some. Not to mention, programming is just very elegant math, and Bitcoin is primarily just a type of mathematical construct, programming only gets hard when you trying to recreate the representation of the world we understand physically.

Might?   He is not Satoshi.  Satoshi may be more than one person of course.

every day the same question , who cares ?

Ok people, just ignore the guy who actually met the person you're speculating about. I'm out. This thread's a blackhole 

For meanings of "Ponzi scheme" that are incorrect.  Go to a dictionary and look ok Ponzi. Bitcoin does not even resemble a Ponzi scheme.

Close enough.

irrelevant.

lol
All "Satoshis" look the same to me.

This one looks like the Asian version of Bruce Campbell.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IpV86ZyXqlA/SwYxbA9YMZI/AAAAAAAABG0/BHOUrwXRrQ0/s400/Bruce_Campbell-Plastic+Man%3F.jpg

Shinichi Mochizuki is a very unlikely candidate in my honest opinion. Here's my theory...

Yossi Nagy Moti - sound familiar to anyone ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206630.0

I am guessing the real Satoshi has met other people in real life. I am guessing the vast majority of those people do not know he is Satoshi.

Didn't see this before. Thanks for the info, good enough for me.

Perhaps this would be then:

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/Inter-universal%20Teichmuller%20Theory%20I.pdf

His writing style is dense. It's like an onion of brilliance that Satoshi simply doesn't have.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0303109v1.pdf

A paper from Perlman

http://arxiv.org/pdf/math/0404188v6.pdf

Green and Tao's paper.

You'll notice they are all deep and indicate minds lost on the edge of a mathematical ocean. Satoshi's paper was nothing like these. You can't turn off a writing style nor can you turn off a mind orders of magnitude beyond that of satoshi's. If it was Shinichi, then he would have most likely shared bitcoin first with Dr. Appel http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/ or his friend Susumu Nishimura http://www.math.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~susumu/. The fact that Satoshi reached out to both Adam Back and Hal tells me he was young and without professional contacts he could trust. When you get older in academia you develop friends.

Section 7 of Satoshi's paper really confirms this for me:


This scheme is raw and would be something someone like Shinichi would be greatly bothered with. It begs a significant mathematical analysis that a computer scientist would be hesitant to perform. A mathematician like Shinichi would love to explain in detail growth. You should see the 500 pages he wrote on the ABC conjecture. Satoshi's paper is the work of a graduate student. It's a white paper to explain an experiment.

I was only turning a poor argument on its head, not trying to advocate that this guy is Satoshi--which I think is a pretty silly notion for plenty of reasons without your anecdote. "OMG REALLY SMRT GUI MUST B SATOSHI!" Simply having been in the presence of Shinichi does not make you an authority on him. Just saying. Your newer post is much more relevant.

Satoshi's paper is actually pretty raw. As someone else said, it reads like a white paper.

That's not to say it isn't very impressive, but it's not written in a way that experienced academics would write, not at all.

This guy is Satoshi, the pictures above are wrong.

http://4.media.hyves-static.net/62011483/5/JxlE/0/img62011483.jpeg

I don't think this topic is settled.

It's my believe Satoshi is an agent sent by a super AI, a friendly one :D

We can never be 100% sure, but this is a pretty nice breakthrough!

Id love more information as it comes :)

Can we have a Who is Satoshi subforum?

I haven't been interested for 18months but in the past few weeks have become interested again.
The beauty of the way Satoshi assembled Bitcoin from currently technology really makes me want to know about him more.
Satoshi's forsight when he created Bitcoin was brilliant.

I do wish he would have left us an answer for the mining centralisation problem however, particularly the risk of a difficult mining withdrawal attack (ie miners ramp up the difficulty then withdraw labour, crippling the network).

Perhaps if he could come back from the future he could share his ideas???

If he was still around he'd probably point out that miners have no incentive to perform such an attack. To use the language from his paper, they would "undermine the validity of their own wealth".

The ability to engage in short-selling changes a lot of his basic assumptions which is why I think it's stupid to allow it. I believe some exchange does provide for it these days - I don't recall which one it is, otherwise I'd ask them to stop.

I know who it is!! Its Light Yagami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Yagami)!!! Think about it, hes elusive, clever, and everybody is looking for him!  ;D

(This one is only for Anime fans, sorry if I mislead anybody  ;D)

this is silly. God created Satoshi so God created BTC.

In 99% of public schools(no, not like in the US) worldwide BE is the norm.

Name dropper.

No one cares.  It's not Satoshi... I am the Satoshi.

This is Satoshi
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JKSRfkDONsQ/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAD0/BySi1Uhj8ZE/photo.jpg

Yes.  And that's me with her.  Where did you get this photo?

lol  ;D ;D

who is kaiser soze?! thats the real question

satoshi is the us government!

Satoshi Nakamoto is Prometheus who changed his mind. After centuries of being torn by vultures in payment for having brought to men the fire of the gods, he broke his chains – and withdrew his fire – until the day when men withdrew their vultures.