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Title: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: bcnaranjo on August 18, 2017, 02:18:29 AM
Kim Jong-un is now initiating fights with the US by boasting its nuclear weapons and is agitating the US President Donald Trump.

Do you think, North Korea can survive if Trump will fire them, knowing that North Korea is just a very small country?


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: botija on August 18, 2017, 02:29:44 AM
Of course not. The United States military is by far the largest in the world, and by a long, long shot. It's literally like and elephant versus a mouse.

Not only that, but who's going to be on North Korea's side, versus the United States?

North Korea is also not well run, since it's run by fear, which leads to mistake of insulting and not independent thinking. Specially for those close to Ill, who knows he would kill them for the slightest things.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 18, 2017, 08:58:17 AM
Kim Jong-un is now initiating fights with the US by boasting its nuclear weapons and is agitating the US President Donald Trump.

Do you think, North Korea can survive if Trump will fire them, knowing that North Korea is just a very small country?

It is not a very small country. The total area is close to 120,000 sq.kms, which comes to around 30 million acres. To destroy all of this area, more than 1,000 nuclear weapons needs to be used, and I don't think that the Americans have the capability to deploy that many weapons at the same time.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Aladdin-Sane-83 on August 18, 2017, 10:03:10 AM
No NK would not survive, the problem is the collateral damage to the region. Seoul and its metropolitan area with millions of people are in range of the old artillery of NK. Hours of conventional artillery fire on that region can hardly be avoided in a case of war. Besides that nobody has a real intrest in fighting this war, there is nothing to gain from it and the costs of a unification would be horrendous for South Korea. It would be exponentially higher that what the German unification cost was because the inequality between the 2 countries are much higher than compared to Germany in the late 80s.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Xester on August 18, 2017, 11:19:25 AM
No NK would not survive, the problem is the collateral damage to the region. Seoul and its metropolitan area with millions of people are in range of the old artillery of NK. Hours of conventional artillery fire on that region can hardly be avoided in a case of war. Besides that nobody has a real intrest in fighting this war, there is nothing to gain from it and the costs of a unification would be horrendous for South Korea. It would be exponentially higher that what the German unification cost was because the inequality between the 2 countries are much higher than compared to Germany in the late 80s.

North Korea will not survive if the US will fight against them. We all know that America is a strong a powerful country. They are rich in technology and weapon. North Korea also have this weapon but not powerful like what America have. So if America bombed and release nuclear missile to north Korea, they will not survive because north Korea is just a small country.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: matuson on August 18, 2017, 11:51:46 AM
Kim Jong-un is now initiating fights with the US by boasting its nuclear weapons and is agitating the US President Donald Trump.

Do you think, North Korea can survive if Trump will fire them, knowing that North Korea is just a very small country?

It is not a very small country. The total area is close to 120,000 sq.kms, which comes to around 30 million acres. To destroy all of this area, more than 1,000 nuclear weapons needs to be used, and I don't think that the Americans have the capability to deploy that many weapons at the same time.
To the Americans won the war against North Korea they don't need 1,000 missiles. It will be enough to destroy all launchers Kim and to destroy the infrastructure of their service. It's not so much rockets as it seems. But the Infestation can be on a large area.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: criptix on August 18, 2017, 08:39:18 PM
Kim Jong-un is now initiating fights with the US by boasting its nuclear weapons and is agitating the US President Donald Trump.

Do you think, North Korea can survive if Trump will fire them, knowing that North Korea is just a very small country?

It is not a very small country. The total area is close to 120,000 sq.kms, which comes to around 30 million acres. To destroy all of this area, more than 1,000 nuclear weapons needs to be used, and I don't think that the Americans have the capability to deploy that many weapons at the same time.

1000 nuclear bombs would produce a nuclear winter for some years and kill pretty much all living organisms on the world.
Not even talkking about the fallout.




Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: zedkiel08 on August 19, 2017, 01:45:38 AM
i think north korea will not fight the united states of america , even if kim yong joon said that he will fire missiles to guam , once north korea fire missiles to guam , the united states of america will eventually fires back north korea , and i think if the USA fires on them , they will never stopped until kim jong yoon will die and north korea will fall.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: BADecker on August 19, 2017, 06:48:54 AM
Putin: North Korea Doesn't Have Nuclear Weapons,
It Has Trillions in Minerals
(https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/223452-2017-08-14-putin-north-korea-doesnt-have-nuclear-weapons-it-has-trillions.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/522-0814174147-a.png (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/223452-2017-08-14-putin-north-korea-doesnt-have-nuclear-weapons-it-has-trillions.htm)


Russian President Vladimir Putin has blown the whistle on the real reason that the world is on the brink of all-out nuclear war. According to Mr. Putin, the story being pushed in the mainstream media that North Korea has nuclear weapons is a complete fabrication designed convince the public that the hermit nation is a global threat. "[North Korea] don't have any nuclear weapons. This is a lie being forced on the people by the corporate-owned Western media", said Putin during an emotionally charged Q&A session in Sochi. "They know they can easily provoke the North Koreans and they will react, but the story that they are a threat is false." "I will tell you the facts about North Korea: They don't have nuclear bombs. They don't have Western-controlled banks. They don't depend on the US dollar. What they do have is a land full of wealth in unmined minerals." According to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, President Putin has "had some time away to reflect" on the US-North Korean conflict and believes that the situation has "gone too far".


Read more at http://www.neonnettle.com/news/2532-putin-north-korea-doesn-t-have-nuclear-weapons-it-has-trillions-in-minerals.


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Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: keyrun on August 19, 2017, 06:57:09 AM
USA should first convince South Korea, Japan, China and Russia before going on any warfare in the peninsula. If USA fired on North Korea than China and Russia would come to its defense.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 19, 2017, 08:40:26 AM
Kim Jong-un is now initiating fights with the US by boasting its nuclear weapons and is agitating the US President Donald Trump.

Do you think, North Korea can survive if Trump will fire them, knowing that North Korea is just a very small country?

It is not a very small country. The total area is close to 120,000 sq.kms, which comes to around 30 million acres. To destroy all of this area, more than 1,000 nuclear weapons needs to be used, and I don't think that the Americans have the capability to deploy that many weapons at the same time.
To the Americans won the war against North Korea they don't need 1,000 missiles. It will be enough to destroy all launchers Kim and to destroy the infrastructure of their service. It's not so much rockets as it seems. But the Infestation can be on a large area.

And how the Americans are going to locate all the nuclear ICBM launchers? They even don't know how many nukes are there in the North Korean possession. Even if they could destroy 50% of the launchers, the DPRK could use the rest to destroy all the major cities within the mainland United States.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Fortify on August 19, 2017, 09:02:19 AM
A more interesting question might be, can the world really survive if the United States fired upon North Korea? It would likely set off a runway train that would be hard to get back under control. What happens when the nuclear winds spread into China? Or the conventional weapons wreaking havoc on South Korea before they can be destroyed? How many nukes would the USA want to use, one on Pyongyang or many spread across the country? There are too many variables, but millions of people would die. Unfortunately North Korea seems intent on suicide.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Mike Christ on August 19, 2017, 09:07:49 AM
North Korea would crumble on itself without mountains of support from actually profitable nations.  They wouldn't stand a chance against the full might of the US, not any more than a sick child stands a chance against a roided young Mike Tyson.  Only thing they might be useful for is as a martyr for China & Russia to have an excuse to retaliate.  North Korea is not a threat to anyone, let alone the US, if not a threat to themselves.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: sibisi666 on August 19, 2017, 09:40:24 AM
haha, North Korea is just provoking Americans, especially trump is being provoked by kim jong... its like in elementary school, that's the level of behaving two of them


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 19, 2017, 02:38:19 PM
haha, North Korea is just provoking Americans, especially trump is being provoked by kim jong... its like in elementary school, that's the level of behaving two of them

It goes both ways. The North Koreans are provoking the Americans by conducting new nuclear and missile tests, while the Americans are provoking the North Koreans by conducting military exercises so close to the maritime borders of North Korea. As long as these remain as provocations, I simply don't care. But they should not step over the line.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: criptix on August 19, 2017, 04:16:45 PM
Kim Jong-un is now initiating fights with the US by boasting its nuclear weapons and is agitating the US President Donald Trump.

Do you think, North Korea can survive if Trump will fire them, knowing that North Korea is just a very small country?

It is not a very small country. The total area is close to 120,000 sq.kms, which comes to around 30 million acres. To destroy all of this area, more than 1,000 nuclear weapons needs to be used, and I don't think that the Americans have the capability to deploy that many weapons at the same time.
To the Americans won the war against North Korea they don't need 1,000 missiles. It will be enough to destroy all launchers Kim and to destroy the infrastructure of their service. It's not so much rockets as it seems. But the Infestation can be on a large area.

And how the Americans are going to locate all the nuclear ICBM launchers? They even don't know how many nukes are there in the North Korean possession. Even if they could destroy 50% of the launchers, the DPRK could use the rest to destroy all the major cities within the mainland United States.

North korean overpower baby.

Better dont fuck around with little kim  :D

Except you are the US then you can send in seth rogen and james franco.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Nikola95 on August 19, 2017, 06:40:53 PM
They can't survive an attack with massive use of tomahawks and bombardment with planes. Can they strike back ? Yes they can strike against US soldiers in South Korea and maybe Japan. They can even shoot some US jets because they have lot of anti air systems and missiles, and some are similar to S-300.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Risktaker31 on August 19, 2017, 06:42:59 PM
Well I think the north korea can't withstand the attacks of Usa they are far more powerful than North Korea even though North korea have nuke they can only destroy one state or two if the will attack using them. But if Usa try to attack them all at once North Korea will perish in the face of the earth.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Beerwizzard on August 20, 2017, 05:43:29 AM
They will be totaly destroyed if they try 1v1 against US but for example if they get any deffence systems from russia (it was alreany proven that they used russian parts in their weapons) they can survive for some time.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 20, 2017, 05:53:47 AM
They can't survive an attack with massive use of tomahawks and bombardment with planes. Can they strike back ? Yes they can strike against US soldiers in South Korea and maybe Japan. They can even shoot some US jets because they have lot of anti air systems and missiles, and some are similar to S-300.

Not just the American bases in Japan and South Korea, but almost all of the mainland US is within the range of North Korean ICBMs. Imagine the scenario in which the DPRK launches 50 nuclear ICBMs against the Americans. Even if just two or three of them reaches the intended target, they can cause death and destruction to millions of people.

http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/DS-north-korea-13000-km.jpeg


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: gabmen on August 20, 2017, 07:08:27 AM
No. And i think kim and his advisers know that. These tests and threats are probably empty barks by a child living in a different world. Nokor won't initiate since that will also make their allies leave them. They will provoke and trump needs to know that it will be a bigger problem if he makes the first strike


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Thyaga on August 20, 2017, 07:11:56 AM
North Korea just pretends to look scary in the Asian region but if they fight with the Americans of course they will lose.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Cloud27 on August 20, 2017, 04:24:49 PM
North Korea will survive, the US will only attack the military and government institutions. China will help US, but with the agenda of annexing the northern part of North Korea while the southern part will be joined to South Korea.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: 2hot2handle on August 20, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
North Korea will not survive if United States of America nuke them though this will not happen. Just imagine all the collateral damage the USA will do not only to the innocent people of North Korea but also to the nearby counties especially South Korea which is an ally to the USA.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: mnixxo on August 20, 2017, 08:05:14 PM
north korea cannot fight with united states. united states have more powerful army. but i hope neighter north korea nor united states won't use their nuclear missile. it is too dangerous.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Noctis Connor on August 20, 2017, 10:53:01 PM
Korea won't do anything stupid if they will fight against United States those their allies will joined because they will help each other to fight and if korea will start war against those country they hating maybe that's the time that korea will be erase on map. LMAO also north korea if they lost the fight they will pay for the damages they've done to each country.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: sotoshihero on August 20, 2017, 11:08:26 PM
North Korea just pretends to look scary in the Asian region but if they fight with the Americans of course they will lose.

Of course, North Korea will be flattened by US. They are threatening but this threats cannot be ignored  in the region and even with the US. There are issues between US and Korea and still hurts the North Korean even more than 50 years had past.The US bombed them during the Korean War and it is still freah and unresolved in their minds.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 21, 2017, 06:43:56 AM
North Korea just pretends to look scary in the Asian region but if they fight with the Americans of course they will lose.

Of course, North Korea will be flattened by US. They are threatening but this threats cannot be ignored  in the region and even with the US. There are issues between US and Korea and still hurts the North Korean even more than 50 years had past.The US bombed them during the Korean War and it is still freah and unresolved in their minds.

North Korea may be flattened by the Americans in the initial few hours. But even if just 50% of the population survives, they will launch a powerful counter-attack against the American bases in Japan and South Korea (probably using nukes). And this will cause tens of millions of casualties on both the sides.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: nursahath07 on October 03, 2017, 05:46:50 AM
it will never happen but united state has capability for taking any kind of revenge against N. Korea...


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: riceyunita on October 03, 2017, 07:35:25 AM
nothing is impossible. even though they just a small country, no one knows what they have prepared to survive from US's attack


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: queenofbtc on October 03, 2017, 07:37:48 AM
Yes I think they can as the usa cant afford to go into n.korea they are broke. Plus there's nothing to gain in north Korea. No oil no drugs and no gold. (GOD) maybe a good ico though.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: MidKnight on November 20, 2017, 08:33:03 AM
They can't even launch successful missiles then we are talking if they can survive the most powerful country in the world attacking them. They would not even last a week or even a day if US planned it carefully and made it a surprise assault.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: Opnsrc on November 24, 2017, 04:22:45 PM
I hope the USA is a very wise country and will not do it. However, if it is an atomic bomb, they will not survive.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: JesusCryptos on November 29, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
Of course not. But that's not the real question. The real question is if the United States could survive the consequences of an action like that. A lot of well armed countries, like China and Russia, may decide that the USA is a too big danger for this planet, and act accordingly.


Title: Re: Could North Korea really survive if the United States will fire on them?
Post by: FriddickPrime on November 29, 2017, 10:07:40 AM
North Korea knows they cant win a conventional war(let alone a nuclear one) with the USA let alone South Korea.

The elites in North Korea want to stay in power at all cost