Title: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: substratumisascam on August 18, 2017, 06:23:19 PM Substratrum has NO product they literally took screenshots of iStat Menus for Mac and Photoshopped it.
Substratum vs iStat Menus app: https://imgur.com/a/bBGKX There is a higher resolution of their photoshopped screenshot on their website (they forgot to disable directory listings): https://substratum.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/note_tray_mac_light_zoom.png (mirror in case they delete it: https://i.imgur.com/dUsvoUO.png) EVIDENCE: https://i.imgur.com/m59cHeV.png https://i.imgur.com/scNng0a.png Someone made a reddit thread asking Why it looked the same as iStat Menus: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6u4lkv/caution_substratum_ico_rippedoff_designs_of/ When asked about it in their slack, this was their response: “Hello tradecryptos-- Substratum is most certainly not a scam and I appreciate you saying it isn’t. The screenshots you see are actually screen captures from our MVP proof of concept running and were done by developers not designers and as most technical people know people who are great at one are not great at another so we did base our internal alpha off of iStat because at the time we were just trying to see if we could actually make the underlying structure work because that is the REALLY HARD part of this project at least since we are changing the way the internet connects. We have brought a Design Lead on now and are TOTALLY redesigning the User Interface from the ground up so what you see in version 1 at the end of the year will look almost nothing like what you see here other than the options that you see will still be there. Thanks for taking a look!” (screenshot of this: https://i.imgur.com/zhgLqy6.png) THIS RESPONSE WAS MADE BEFORE THEY KNEW THAT I FOUND A HIGH RESOLUTION SCREENSHOT ON THEIR SITE AND PROVING IT IS IN FACT PHOTOSHOPPED AND NOT SIMPLY A "proof of concept running and were done by developers not designers". Guys this ICO scam has already made off with nearly $2 million! Also, I made this post in their ANN thread, but a mod deleted it! Here is their ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054963.0 Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: MrUnconventional on August 19, 2017, 10:32:19 PM These icos get more ridiculous by the minute.
Nice find. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: ShivaBalaji on August 22, 2017, 05:46:29 PM 6th day and no tokens received. I believe the managers have absconded with the money and this is a scam. Someone report them to the authorities please. Let's see how far their $2 million will take them with a class action lawsuit.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: PinguQ on August 22, 2017, 06:23:30 PM For me it's also been 6 days now.
And their e-mail addresses are not working anymore? Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: manosteel211 on August 22, 2017, 06:32:03 PM Lead is suppose to be a pastor at a church. Twitter account is from 2008 but nothing about substratum on it. If you look at the ether address they have a ton of SUB coins, half a billion. They have been going out really slowly but haven't for 15 hours writing this reply. Here is the ether scan address. https://etherscan.io/address/0xaf518d65f84e4695a4da0450ec02c1248f56b668. Maybe scam maybe not but there is ether moving out of the account not much from what i looked at. Also slack not active anymore. Anybody have a link?
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Slow death on August 22, 2017, 07:02:52 PM Project Leads Justin Tabb Justin@substratum.net Solutions Architect https://i.imgur.com/CWfuklm.png https://www.linkedin.com/in/justintabb/ Over the last 10 years Justin has lead development teams on projects such as training.apple.com, consultants.apple.com, Event Software for Facebook, Event Software for OpenStack, Theme Park Software for Disney, Election Software for 2008 Presidential Campaign and many many more. Abram Cookson abram@substratum.net Lead Software Developer https://i.imgur.com/webI6HO.png https://www.linkedin.com/in/abramcookson/ Husband, Father, Owner, Small Business Experienced, Idea Man, Consultant, Technical Lead, Application Developer, Architecture, Comedian Specialties: Cloud Solutions, Agile, Modeling, Architecture, Search Engine Optimization, Web Standards Jason Wollam Jason@substratum.net Senior Software Engineer https://i.imgur.com/dPjUgr2.png https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonwollam/ • C#, ASP.NET, and ADO.Net including ASP.NET MVC 4, WinForm and Web API for web services. • TDD and SOLID concepts for building scale-able OOP • implementations. • JavaScript for full stack and browser based applications using Node.js and common libraries. • Single Page & Front-end development using and MVVM JavaScript with Backbone.js Kevin Marois kevin@substratum.net Senior Software Engineer https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-marois-40682611 Over 30 years of professional software development experience, including clientserver enterprise level applications, retail, POS, and military use applications Jason Burns jasonb@substratum.net Design Lead Head of Design with 10+ years of design experience of eye catching campaigns with high conversion rates and software design for systems that maximize ergonomics and ease of use. Michael Stockwell Michael@substratum.net Advisor https://i.imgur.com/ArSQ3mn.png https://www.linkedin.com/in/stockwellmichael/ Michael is the owner of FizzPow Games, the creator of Bitcoin Billionaire, an accomplished developer and an experienced cryptocurrency investor and is serving as an advisor for Substratum. source: http://substratum.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/substratum_whitepaper.pdf Lead is suppose to be a pastor at a church. hahahahaha These guys make me laugh Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: manosteel211 on August 22, 2017, 08:01:30 PM go to jason burns twitter. it has the same picture and says hes a pastor. Just sayin. I invested in this just hope its not a scam.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Johnnywelsh on August 22, 2017, 09:38:41 PM My mate found a load of SUB tokens already being ditched on yobit for less than a penny each and have been for months. Hoping it's not the same coin but not looking good.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: CryptoTerps on August 23, 2017, 03:25:15 AM For me it's also been 6 days now. And their e-mail addresses are not working anymore? Are you a member of the slack? DM your txid and ETH address to the admin "zfelds". He is in the slack sending out tokens right now very quickly. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: donnyjoseph on August 23, 2017, 07:36:20 PM Where is the link to their slack ? and how can I register on slack with no invitation ?
I sent 2 eth and so far no coins. For me it's also been 6 days now. And their e-mail addresses are not working anymore? Are you a member of the slack? DM your txid and ETH address to the admin "zfelds". He is in the slack sending out tokens right now very quickly. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Johnnywelsh on August 23, 2017, 11:22:16 PM 4 days after deposit and still no tokens, luckily I only invested $30 so going to just take it as a lesson learnt and hope others don't fall for it to limit the amount these scumbags get away with.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Cryptorook on August 25, 2017, 12:17:23 PM Justin Tabb from Substratum replied to my email regarding my missing coins. He said the reason I haven't received them yet is because I didn't list a TX ID. Does anybody know if a tax id or social security number is required. Thank you
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: 2demons on August 25, 2017, 04:06:07 PM Did anyone received anything? So final verdict is scam coin?
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Profetu on August 25, 2017, 07:28:53 PM Did anyone received anything? So final verdict is scam coin? I received them 4 days later. That does not mean this is legit though. Anyone can create his own token almost free. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Profetu on August 25, 2017, 07:30:24 PM Justin Tabb from Substratum replied to my email regarding my missing coins. He said the reason I haven't received them yet is because I didn't list a TX ID. Does anybody know if a tax id or social security number is required. Thank you A transaction id is required. You should learn more before investing. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: hackg on August 25, 2017, 07:36:03 PM when you contribute you get an email with your TX id
Copy that, go to the slack channel and ask the SUbstratum team members there to help get your tokens. It took me 2 minutes to their slack channel, paste my TX id in a message and get my tokens sent to me. This is definitely not a scam, and just because they photoshopped some ideas together isn't any different than 99% of other ICO's out there lol. iStat just happens to be a common interface to notice similarities to If anyone is going to contribute, use my referral code to get 15% bonus tokens: 3hackg Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Cryptorook on August 25, 2017, 09:39:26 PM Thanks hackg. But I'm still a little confused. What is a TX id and where do I find it. Thank again
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Argolas_ on August 26, 2017, 01:51:32 PM i have received my SUB immediatly after the purchase (12 days ago)
people should read instructions before shout "scamming" Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: wowaweewa on August 26, 2017, 04:53:16 PM I am not receiving my tokens for more then a week. Got banned from their slack just for pointing ICO security issues. Stay away from these scammers.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: JRu on August 27, 2017, 01:54:49 AM Talk to an admin on the slack...got my tokens in 10 minutes it was that easy. https://substratumcoin.slack.com
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Magicune500 on August 27, 2017, 12:22:32 PM Its too early to declare Substratum as a scam.
They are trying to do something I received my tokens. Just go to the slack channel, give them your tx and email address and they will give tokens with BONUS lets not spread risk quite yet Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: PinguQ on August 27, 2017, 04:41:05 PM Everybody gets his tokens. Got mine after 5 days, so it can take a while but you'll get them.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: jeffsydney on August 30, 2017, 11:12:41 AM Hey Guys .
I joined ICO bout ten days ago and have not received any response. How do I contact the substratum guys? Thanks Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: miKcrypto on August 30, 2017, 06:44:09 PM From what I've seen the slack has been extremely responsive with processing payments even though they are behind. Customer support has been good. I received my tokens.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: ladoppiaesse on August 30, 2017, 06:57:40 PM Hey Guys . I joined ICO bout ten days ago and have not received any response. How do I contact the substratum guys? Thanks It has been written like 20 times here to go on Slack and get in touch with admins. You will receive your tokens soon. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: jeffsydney on August 31, 2017, 11:15:11 AM Yes
I did see that but the slack "invite link is no longer active." so im stuck. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: kikan on September 01, 2017, 08:09:52 AM hi,
after 8 days i still waiting for my tokens... Can someone point me , how can i contact the team, so i can sak when i will receive my tokens? thanks by kikan Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: kikan on September 01, 2017, 08:12:54 AM something i found here..
join to the stratum group and ask for tokens.. https://substratumcoin.slack.com/join/shared_invite/MjMxNTY5MTQ3MzYwLTE1MDM3NzgxMzYtOTUwYTYyZDg1ZQ Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: tech72 on September 01, 2017, 05:12:50 PM Their pass client. Based on their website.
Is it true? ??? https://i.gyazo.com/01290e71dc6fc222d35ef608a374bfa6.png Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: pbody on September 03, 2017, 09:35:15 AM Their pass client. Based on their website. Is it true? ??? https://i.gyazo.com/01290e71dc6fc222d35ef608a374bfa6.png yes, they had those past clients. substratum are a bunch of backend developers, according to recent youtube video of their lead guy, that have been running a company since early 2000s. over the years they have been working on a side-project which is substratum. I thought this was a scam company at first but after researching, they are legit. the ico was poorly run with the referral system but these guys are developers... they will hopefully hire some people to help them in the areas they are lacking. they do have a history of making things happen so we will see. so not a scam. just a poorly run ico. however, to their credit they were extremely responsive on slack. you can go there and chat with someone now. they are avail 24/7. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: useless on September 04, 2017, 05:07:31 AM I got my tokens today. Everything is fine.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: ladoppiaesse on September 04, 2017, 09:32:01 AM 4 days no coins. Also, I find it strange that the ICO counter was refreshed today giving people other 10 days to contribute. Join Slack and ask the admins to process your transaction. There's no smart contract distributing the tokens, so they have to do it in a semi-manual way. Again, join Slack and ask admins. I was also worried but I received them after that. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: AdamCox9 on September 08, 2017, 11:18:38 AM I see their ad on Bitcoin Reddit all the time.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: verb on September 11, 2017, 05:31:04 AM guys, everything works like a charm when investing in substratum. receiving coins is the easy part, actually delivering a working and useful product is the hard part, but that's on their side of the bargain, not ours. read the instructions before investing because in 99.99% of cases, all user / investor mistakes are not refundable (even if they wanted to).
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Kitem on September 13, 2017, 06:19:35 AM Hi there,
This is my first post. Would like to participate in my first ICO and I chose Substratum but I have a couple of questions (hope you can help me): - MyEtherWallet Already signed in. Want to create the wallet on which receive the Tokens. Should I have to input the wallet code showed on the website (0x12480E.......)? Noob question.... If it's the same for everybody, how they can discriminate which one is mine? Or should I have to download the Ethereum wallet on my pc and use that one? - I read I should not send the coins from exchange website. If I download the Ethereum wallet on my pc (and feed it), can I send the coins from there? Sorry for the noob questions and thanks in advance for the replies Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Kitem on September 13, 2017, 09:08:10 AM something i found here.. join to the stratum group and ask for tokens.. https://substratumcoin.slack.com/join/shared_invite/MjMxNTY5MTQ3MzYwLTE1MDM3NzgxMzYtOTUwYTYyZDg1ZQ The link is no longer available. Would you mind resending it? Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: GorillaDental on September 16, 2017, 06:05:37 AM when you contribute you get an email with your TX id Copy that, go to the slack channel and ask the SUbstratum team members there to help get your tokens. It took me 2 minutes to their slack channel, paste my TX id in a message and get my tokens sent to me. This is definitely not a scam, and just because they photoshopped some ideas together isn't any different than 99% of other ICO's out there lol. iStat just happens to be a common interface to notice similarities to If anyone is going to contribute, use my referral code to get 15% bonus tokens: 3hackg just used your referral code fyi Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: franc0 on September 17, 2017, 07:05:10 PM For those that FUD substratum, they are showing the UI in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=36&v=x97-Zu72WwY Maidsafe and ipfs fan boys are in trouble. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: MoonIsBlue on September 18, 2017, 12:08:24 AM I have received the correct amount of substratum though in myetherwallet
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Kitem on September 18, 2017, 01:52:35 PM Hi there
Do you know when it will be listed on exchange? Based on the white paper it should be already added on Bittrex and Bitfinex. Thanks Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: mithrim on September 19, 2017, 08:11:50 AM Hi there Do you know when it will be listed on exchange? Based on the white paper it should be already added on Bittrex and Bitfinex. Thanks They said September, not 1st of September, so be patient ;) Also, have a look at their youtube channel, they make a video every day: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxUJoTH0XLERKl55zGnFI6g Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: lichao1395427 on September 20, 2017, 11:39:12 PM A lot of FUD without any actual proof. Stop spamming "scam" without any substance behind it.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: hackg on September 23, 2017, 08:27:21 PM Burning unsold coins, new UI design, Beta coming out in few months then v1 release Jan 2018 - also several people seemed to have missed that they are building a crypto payment gateway that website admins can install just like you'd have a paypal module on your site. Except they will convert the crypto to SUB, then SUB to fiat for the merchant and take a small cut via SUB transaction.
Turns out they've been developing the backend all the way up to ICO which is why the developers quickly copied iStat menus and photoshopped it to show a proof of concept of what the UI could look like, so people could picture it. They have since brought on a designer though and its designed UI from scratch looks VERY nice and slick looking now After speaking with the team members directly and gotten to know a few admins in the slack, these guys are pretty genuine and down to earth. I may have been skeptical coming in at first but this investment is turning out to have huge potential. They have a pretty enthusiastic community in their slack also, which btw if you want to join their slack you should visit their facebook to get an invite. They locked it down from open signup due to so many scammers going around (see below) Quote Zach F Attention @everyone! We have deactivated our slack link until further notice to hinder the effect of scammers in our community. Please be aware that anyone wanting to join our slack from now until further notice will either need to send us a DM on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/substratumnet) or DM us at @substratumnet with their e-mail address. Thanks for understanding! Please be safe and ALWAYS protect your information! Also Quote Do you know when it will be listed on exchange? They cancelled Bitfinex due to them dropping support for US users and maybe some other reasons. COSS.io exchange will trade SUB starting 25th I believe and Bittrex is on the list still but there is a long wait to get on there. Of course there is also EtherDelta but I hate that place... I thin Liqui may be coming soon, and one the admins said Binance already offered so that may also be coming soon. They burn unsold coins tomorrow 24th so the value should rise a bit after that Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: seaneym on October 02, 2017, 05:00:41 PM Please help Substratum get onto Binance by following the link below and casting your vote!
https://www.binance.com/vote.html Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: CaesarCipher on October 05, 2017, 10:13:36 AM Has the Substratum team set up a new slack? The old one no longer seems to be accepting invites.
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Somz1 on October 05, 2017, 12:31:08 PM Most of you need to learn to research on an ico before throwing your money away, it will give you insights and ideas on how good an ico is, blindly believing any bullshit the team gives will only make you lose your money
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Argolas_ on October 06, 2017, 09:47:21 PM well, i now have a big x3 gain thanks to the spike
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: cliffordsean on October 19, 2017, 03:22:09 PM any news on this project ?
where can one trade it ? i have not found a slack thread ! Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Argolas_ on October 21, 2017, 05:09:39 PM any news on this project ? where can one trade it ? i have not found a slack thread ! trade in binance info: https://substratum.net/blog/ Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: 22justin on December 11, 2017, 09:56:32 PM subscrotum is one of the biggest frauds in crypto. bag holders gonna get hit hard .
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: murgut on January 08, 2018, 04:28:56 PM interesting to see how this is not also a talk about maid that never delivered. we shall see in the end
Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: Tonisim on May 04, 2018, 07:20:24 AM Substratum Open EARLY Beta Announcement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXSddvnlUnE&feature=youtu.be
What is up Substratum Family! Today I am VERY excited to announce to you that the first packaged install of SubstratumNode will be available next Friday May the 11th! As you know we went Open Source on April 23rd and since then many people across the world have compiled the source code themselves, run the SubstratumNode and proven that it REALLY WORKS and that is super exciting. Title: Re: Substratum ICO Scam Post by: NightDream on May 12, 2018, 04:13:28 PM SubstratumNode 0.3.0 Open Beta LIVE - What to Expect & Know if it works. In this video we tell you what to expect and how to know if the open beta v0.3.0 worked for you and the roadmap forward to v.1 PRODUCTION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg3SqaJasis&feature=youtu.be
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