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This one looks promising

Crypto tokens that are legally representative of real-world assets

Could be a game changer

https://www.forbes.com/sites/giovannirodriguez/2017/08/16/can-swarm-fund-help-the-cryptocurrency-market-finally-enter-the-mainstream/#79f9c3512e77

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

I agree that it looks interesting. I am trying to figure out colored coins like in Lykke or mosaics in XEM.

    What is the difference between these three?

not sure about those two but Swarm Fund looks really solid. Just read the whitepaper and researched the team

the team is based out of Silicon Valley and has some serious crypto dev veterans among its ranks

This Swarm or DAO are no different, just pyramid scam. But then can't compare much as most of the DAO are dead and the rest are in declining.

looks like the ICO is coming up on September 7th

https://www.swarm.fund/

going to do some more research but this one looks like it may be worth participating in

mainstream adoption is what is needed for the next level of crypto growth, the fact that swarm fund is being covered by Forbes says a lot

I looked into. It is similar to good old TaaS. And it şis working if creators are trusted people. I hope we will see more info over bitcointalk forums.

Cofoundit is another project that's almost the same as Swarm, I think.  It's being accumulated right now on Bittrex and it looks like it's gonna start trending soon.

Please check out my opinion about it in my speculation thread the altcoin speculation section.

To be honest Cofoundit seems to be at the chicken and egg stage that Swarm 1.0 was at in late 2014 / early 2015. They are actively seeking start-up projects that they can assist with raising funds in the hope that somewhere down the line these start-ups will be worth something....this slow process of trying to market their platform to small teams is what I believe eventually drove Swarm back into stealth mode.

Since then with lessons these learned, Swarm are returning to build a platform that will deploy capital immediately into EXISTING & PROFITABLE FUNDS across a variety of verticals (Distressed Real Estate, SaaS /  Tech and Renewables to name a few). So in a nutshell.... the capital raised above the software dev cap will be begin to be put to work immediately via their deployment into these existing businesses.

A proportion of any profit from these sub funds is then paid as a licence fee into a Swarm Token Pool which the Token holders then vote to either redistribute into new funds or distribute in a stake weighted manner amongst token holders.

See the difference?

agree, it seems very well thought out

Maybe.  But we'll see.  I would rather be trading in something new than something old that failed, and was rehashed and is now claiming it's something new, but the reality is, it's all the same.  Plus the most important thing to me is the chart.  Check out CFI's chart.  It's accumulating and looking good. 

I wouldn't go as far as to say that this failed it seems a lot more like a pivot and a re-raise.... something that many very successful startups also do (http://www.businessinsider.com/most-successful-pivots-2011-4?op=1). Stop, reassess, learn from mistakes and improve / change your product / market fit. The 1.0 team were trying to figure out something very new in early 2014. They thought it was simpler than it was...and  once they began speaking with lawmakers etc. this became apparent.  They were literally THE thought leaders in this area in 2014.... and they remain ahead of the curve with this offering as they've already explored most of the dead ends that new Crowdfunding platforms will also face. That's why I'm so excited about the work they did during their downtime.  Chicken & Egg problem resolved now lets build the Farm! :)

I think this is an excellent point. The project/team is showing adaptability and resilience, as well as dedication to their vision. It would have been easy to walk away after running into challenges with Swarm 1.0. With so many questionable ico's going on, the dedication and commitment the Swarm Fund team is showing says a lot about the potential future success of this project

this is neat, in addition to having a whitepaper they have a "lightpaper" that gives a more succinct overview of the project:

http://swarmlightpaper.strikingly.com/

some detailed info about the ICO here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSjKO0d7pE

I found this clear explanation of Swarm:

https://swarm.fund/blog/swarmfund/decentralized-access-to-high-return-alternative-investments/

I found this project on Wings Platform:
https://www.wings.ai/#!/home/project/0x2e4F1157D1cb304DE11842D2587F57A0d3864c0c/info

You can now participate there (if you have wings) and receive some amount of SWARM tokens. To all Wings platform Swarm giving 1.5% of all Swarm tokens.

some more great info here:

https://swarm.fund/faq/#faq9

Great insight in this video posted by Swarm Fund showing testimonials from their Partner Funds:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-dDl3ip3mM&feature=youtu.be

Swarm Fund seems to be positioning themselves well to deal with the increasing regulatory environment:

https://www.cointelegraph.com/press-releases/swarm-fund-launches-compliance-oriented-token-offering-tailored-to-evolving-regulatory-environment

As a newbie I really need to study this. The points made in this board seem to be very positive. The Forbes article states The first way: how Swarm will help small investors use digital tokens to invest in real-world assets that are largely inaccessible to them -- for example, real estate. This sounds quite good

Will be keeping an eye on this, anyone know what CFI was at ICO price?

What is CFI?

yeah you right so look interesting but observe more in thread like skyw*y coin and look scam projek
my friend ask to me but i see its bad

ico is live now:

https://swarm.fund/

after much consideration and research I have decided to invest in this one

I think swarm has a bright future, the dev team is super solid and I have been very impressed with their dedication to the project

What is skyw*y coin? What is the connection with Swarm Fund?

My friend told me about Swarm but I didn't pay attention. Now I see Swarm name almost everywhere. I need to check it again but I saw too many negative comments about it. There's still one week for ICO, I probably wouldn't invest but I'll definitely read it again.

Yes i have seen its name, too. That is correct, it actually looks pretty good and interesting to me, i researched and read about it awhile. I am following for now.

interesting info about how swarm plans to navigate potential regulatory actions

https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/swarm-fund-launches-compliance-oriented-token-offering-tailored-to-evolving-regulatory-environment

now that all this China fud is starting to wear off we should see another period of massive market growth. good to know that swarm is prepared to deal with regulations, excited to see where they can take things

another really interesting video with some great info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-dDl3ip3mM

Really, it looks promising.I have read that article and watched the video there. I didn't look into it before even though I came across it.But this post got me to take a look at it.I have seen a similar project named Real which deals with real estate.But it didn't look real for me.So I didn't participate in the ICO.But Swarm looks decent with a huge perspective into large assets.I suggest you participate in the presale. I am gonna grab some now.

i wonder how voting rights on the direction of an investment will be allocated. Will it be up to the resident expert for that investment or will token holders be able to vote and influence the direction of an investment proportional to how many tokens they have

I kinda like the SUN token thinggy

Allowing people to invest with profits while you already invest in one real estate allow portfolio growing effectively

Because waiting for one real estate to be fully sold is a pain as it takes a long time

yeah looks promising but i don't know why i'm not sure to invest and take my bitcoin or my ethereum in this ico but i join to bounty campaign.! maybe its solution for you if you undecided to invest still can join bounty campaign ;)

Yes..I'm following it, thanks for your information

yeah, its a pretty brilliant way to make these kind of investments open to more people with way more flexibility if one wants to pull out their funds at any point. Its really one of the best use cases of blockchain tech I have seen.

I agree that swarm campaign it was a promising project so thats why many participant are participated of that swarm campaign. Maybe it big succesfull of this project in the coming end of ico.

does anyone have any info on what exchanges the Swarm Token will be traded on post ico?

I should guess is too soon to know. Bitrex would be a perfect platform especially if the ICO is successful.

Swarm Fund sounds interesting. But I don't understand why they wouldn't have also a thread on bitcointalk.

I was interested in swarm looking at this topic.
However, the minimum investment amount of "50,000 dollars" of Presale is too high :'(
I will wait for regular ICO or listing.

they have an official thread going here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2159615.0

so what are some of the physical assets that will be available to invest in through the swarm fund platform?

real estate, renewable energy and physical startups. im sure additional investment types will emerge after the platform launches

Swarm Fund Public Token Sale Re-Opens October 21st - First Liquid Democracy Vote to Immediately Follow the Sale
by Philipp Pieper


Swarm Fund has extended the pre-sale period and will open the SWM public token sale from October 21 to October 27. We came to this decision after conferring with our legal and institutional partners, and realizing we needed additional time to accommodate the shifting regulatory landscape.

On September 7th Swarm briefly opened a public sale and then switched to an ambassador-only pre-sale. Refunds were given to any unsatisfied participants in the short public sale, which were taken up by 5.3 percent of all crowdsale transactions, representing $75K. Since then, additional pre-sale funds of $2.5M for a total of $4.7M have been committed to date.

We chose this revised schedule in light of the following:

Continued Token Swap: To accommodate Swarm token holders who were unable to participate in our token swap; particularly since Poloniex has now agreed to allow holders of Swarm 1.0 tokens to transfer them off their platform. More information to be released shortly.

Asia: In consideration of investors in Asia who have requested more time to participate in the sale as they navigate the regulatory situations across the region.

US Investor Accreditation: As we want to be as inclusive to the investor community while legally compliant, we are using the additional time to make the process as simple as possible for US-based investors to navigate any accreditation hurdles to participation. More information to be released shortly.

Community Involvement: We have received ample feedback on the liquidity release feature of the SWM Token. Since we are building Swarm as a platform based on community participation, and are launching with a product that puts decisions in the hands of the Swarm community, we are taking this time to incorporate relevant suggestions that will improve all aspects of this offering. As we close the sale, our liquid democracy platform will be operational with the Swarm Token holder community voting to decide on the liquidity schedule, as well as the appointment of board members.

We believe this new process and timeplan gives the community the best access and time to participate, while simultaneously providing us with the opportunity to do this in a much more safe and compliant way, via auditing all steps of the process. Within this new procedure and time schedule, we are able to continue with the pre-established token pricing curve, while holding true to the initially promised first token liquidity (moved by three days to November 6th).

As part of our roadshow, we have traveled to Los Angeles and New York City, as well as six other countries over the past week. The reception has been extremely positive from the institutional finance world, private wealth management and others in the broader financial community.

We strive for transparency in our processes, and are equally committed to deliver real value from day one, particularly in the current, and dynamic landscape. When the first liquid democracy vote goes live on 10/31, Swarm Token holders will be asked to participate in their first voting process, in order to appoint the Board and the go forward liquidity schedule for Swarm Tokens. This indoctrinates them as a part of liquid democracy, engaging all Swarm members directly in deciding the future of the platform.

We are very excited about the overall community’s enthusiasm for this project, and the positive feedback we are receiving. It’s truly helping us shape this venture and ensures it evolves in the best possible way.

OFFICIAL SALE TIME SCHEDULE:

Pre-sale will continue until 10/18 23:00 UTC
Swarm public sale opens 10/21 14:00 UTC and closes 10/27 23:00 UTC
Liquid democracy voting on Board selection and Swarm Token liquidity release begins 10/30 14:00 UTC until 11/3 23:00 UTC
First liquidity release for token tradability 11/6 15:00 UTC

Their logo looks like wings, and they have made threads 1 year ago, however I see swarmfund less attractive, because they are a bit plagiarism

that was swarm 1.0

they had an amazing vision but it was a bit ahead of its time. since then the dev team has realized what it was going to take to make this project a reality and have committed more time and resources to evolve the project into swarm 2.0

ahh, that makes sense, was wondering about this, thanks for clarifying

I have gone through the background of the team and went into depth reading their whitepaper. If executed properly with the vision that they have, this could have huge potential in the future. I will be following this closely for sure.

the team is really solid. also the fact that they are based out of silicon valley says a lot. very few icos are based out of silicon valley and once the tech hub of the world really starts throwing its hat into the crypto ring things are going to get very interesting

Yeah you right! swarm fund can compete with other ico projects in the market and they have strong foundation and team.

seriously, why so few icos are based out of silicon valley is baffling. perhaps the desire to avoid US regulations is a major factor but its only a matter of time before the tech titans get heavily involved in crypto. excited that swarm fund is leading the way!

it makes sense, silicon valley based startups have access to more traditional sources of venture capital

cryptos most succesful use case so far has been crowdsourced investment capital which silicon valley has less of a need for at the moment

I think this idea is very promising but also need very careful consideration in determining the type of coin that will be in use later Because until now a lot of coins are scattered but people prefer to get the coins that really have the best quality like etherium.

I agree and suppose the team will take this out. They have too much experience and the best lawyers to make this bad =)

As someone who's worked at tech startups,

I want no part in funding tech startups...

These companies burn money like crazy and most of them will fail miserably

I don't agree. When you look into forums they launched project with nearly same name 1 or 2 year ago. And they scrapped it. There is no light behind whitepapers for me. BUT I would still love them to be successful.

Apologies if this has been posted before, but when is the planned ICO date?

There are so many ICO sites and you couldn't find the date?))) The new crowdsale dates are Oct 21 - Oct 27.

yes what you say is that swarmfund is very interesting, but ICO is always delayed, rather annoying. but it's okay .. I wait patiently  ;D

very true, their logo is like wings and birds, hope if later ico finished will be like a flying bird and I hope the price continues to fly up and not fast the occurrence of dump, what is the meaning of plagiarism? have you ever seen the same logo as swarm? what is the name of the project?

Innovative fund makes people wise to invest, I will invest those projects they invest.

Yes it is similar to Dao, but Dao was an accidental project. Swarm is a carefully though one, they're actually trying to work with legalities of raising money. Moreover, dao, although it could have been but doesn't have pre-determined projects and swarm has lined up start ups and other 3rd parties expressing their interest. Interesting times ahead.

Is it really worth it to invest here? Because i have decided to try on investing to some alt coins,I should really do a deep research about this but do they have a thread here in bitcoin talk forum? I think they lack some marketing and advertisements?. I think this project will become successful, In my opinion they should really have a big investment on marketing.

they have an official thread going here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2159615.new#new

yeah, being totally compliant with the growing regulatory environment is key for Swarm. The have a team of lawyers and are really devoting a lot of time and energy to making sure this is so. Its part of the reason they delayed the public crowd sale. I am impressed by their dedication and unwillingness to cut corners. They are moving forward with integrity

i have to admit, it does seem like the team is making all the right moves

with the news from Russia yesterday, curious to see how this regulation saga unfolds and how upcoming blockchain projects will adapt

official statement from the dev team:

Swarm Fund has extended the pre-sale period and will open the SWM public token sale from October 21 to October 27. We came to this decision after conferring with our legal and institutional partners, and realizing we needed additional time to accommodate the shifting regulatory landscape.

On September 7th Swarm briefly opened a public sale and then switched to an ambassador-only pre-sale. Refunds were given to any unsatisfied participants in the short public sale, which were taken up by 5.3 percent of all crowdsale transactions, representing $75K. Since then, additional pre-sale funds of $2.5M for a total of $4.7M have been committed to date.

We chose this revised schedule in light of the following:

    Continued Token Swap: To accommodate Swarm token holders who were unable to participate in our token swap; particularly since Poloniex has now agreed to allow holders of Swarm 1.0 tokens to transfer them off their platform. More information to be released shortly.

    Asia: In consideration of investors in Asia who have requested more time to participate in the sale as they navigate the regulatory situations across the region.

    US Investor Accreditation: As we want to be as inclusive to the investor community while legally compliant, we are using the additional time to make the process as simple as possible for US-based investors to navigate any accreditation hurdles to participation. More information to be released shortly.

    Community Involvement: We have received ample feedback on the liquidity release feature of the SWM Token. Since we are building Swarm as a platform based on community participation, and are launching with a product that puts decisions in the hands of the Swarm community, we are taking this time to incorporate relevant suggestions that will improve all aspects of this offering. As we close the sale, our liquid democracy platform will be operational with the Swarm Token holder community voting to decide on the liquidity schedule, as well as the appointment of board members.

We believe this new process and timeplan gives the community the best access and time to participate, while simultaneously providing us with the opportunity to do this in a much more safe and compliant way, via auditing all steps of the process. Within this new procedure and time schedule, we are able to continue with the pre-established token pricing curve, while holding true to the initially promised first token liquidity (moved by three days to November 6th).

As part of our roadshow, we have traveled to Los Angeles and New York City, as well as six other countries over the past week. The reception has been extremely positive from the institutional finance world, private wealth management and others in the broader financial community.

We strive for transparency in our processes, and are equally committed to deliver real value from day one, particularly in the current, and dynamic landscape. When the first liquid democracy vote goes live on 10/31, Swarm Token holders will be asked to participate in their first voting process, in order to appoint the Board and the go forward liquidity schedule for Swarm Tokens. This indoctrinates them as a part of liquid democracy, engaging all Swarm members directly in deciding the future of the platform.

We are very excited about the overall community’s enthusiasm for this project, and the positive feedback we are receiving. It’s truly helping us shape this venture and ensures it evolves in the best possible way.

Official time schedule for the sales process:

    Pre-sale will continue until 10/18 23:00 UTC
    Swarm public sale opens 10/21 14:00 UTC and closes 10/27 23:00 UTC
    Liquid democracy voting on Board selection and Swarm Token liquidity release begins 10/30 14:00 UTC until 11/3 23:00 UTC
    First liquidity release for token tradability 11/6 15:00 UTC

I am so interested to try this new game especially if given a coin bonus in the application later so that more can make a lot of people who participate in this game to increase income each month.

did you get in on the presale?

Ofcourse, swarm token is interest ICO for more people

I thought presale need invest minimum 50k dollar. :/ how you can get only some token

I think they started the crowd sale and it ran briefly before they decided to postpone it

i think they even offered people who participated in the crowd sale for that one day a refund once they decided to postpone it

There are more than 1500 users at telegram chat and 4200 at Twitter. I hope Swarm would be popular when time of ICO comes ;) But I suppose 255,000,000$ hard cap is too much anyway!

255 mil is the ico hard cap?

yes, I think so

Check the whitepaper. Soft cap is $55M, hard cap is $255M. They both are very bold for any kind of cryptoproject.

the cap is high but their distribution method is very sound and well designed

Yeah, but their bounty managers could not handle the bounty program as they should. I hate their blurred rules. What the heck does this point mean: "Write some relevant content about Swarm.fund"?!

it just means write stuff about the project, pretty straight forward

Interesting stuff but I'm not sure about investing in it, caps are a bit too ambitious imo. I'm definitely joining social network bounties though !

very curious to see how investment opportunities are presented on the platform once everything is up and running

Swarm will become a sucessfull ico
On this last year. I really like the concept
Is very innovative and difference than others.
I hope after ico over. Swarm make exchange on coinmarketcap,blockfolio, and etherdelta.

yes, interested to see which exchanges Swarm tokens will be trading on

Are you serious about that? does it make sense the project just like swarm wants to raise a lot of money? this was very strange because i don't see anything that better than tezos project to hype the investors.

Just be patience
Always support the developer
I guest it will better to exchange the swarm
On etherdelta first. So we can trade and make a good pump.

i don't really have an opinion on the hard cap amount and I don't think it necessarily implies how much they are expecting to raise

Great recent interview with Philipp Pieper, partner and co-founder of Swarm Fund:

http://blockchain-finance.com/2017/10/02/interview-swarm-fund-on-using-blockchain-for-investing-icos-and-regulation/

thanks for posting that, very interesting info

looks like the pre-sale has ended

public crowd sale begins in a few days

Presale ended more than a month a go. Unless you mean that presale that was re-opened when they postponed the ICO  :)

Yeah, ICO begins in two days (21st October), so make sure to check it out.

that's the one ;)
excited for the public sale to begin!

That's sound great! Anyone can give me more a link for more information. How can I join to this ICO?  ???

Swarm is getting all the positive PR! Financisl sector is the first point of call for positive disruption. If Swarm could achieve what they set out to do, we would see a lot of changes! In another development , Spectre is creating change from the angle of brokeless transaction making trading secure and less expensive for traders and you!

http://www.swarm.fund/

crowdsale is live! just invested!

so excited for this project

I'm very wondering if they would achieve at least the soft cap they are declared. Their hard cap looks like crazy especially nowadays.

It looks like ICO stucks at 8.1M tokens. I don't think they will reach at least the soft cap - it's too high imo.

still 4 days left to invest, it might be a good thing that there are less tokens in circulation

I've seen them promoting Swarm Coin at numerous conferences including Go Block Con in Los Angeles. The problem is no matter how often I visit the website I still can't figure out exactly what it is that they do. The same applies to the whitepaper.

Yes, it may be useful. BUT if they won't rise soft cap $55M the crowdsale would be considered as failed and every contribution would go back to investors. Moreover faith in project would be undermined.

this is not true, even at the current level of investment the ico would be considered a success and the project would move forward

https://www.swarm.fund/how-swarm-works/