Title: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Xer0 on May 19, 2013, 01:07:03 PM Avalon is offering sample chips now with every 10k order, which are sent first.
Did anyone already received some of them and could contribute informations? Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: flyonwall on May 19, 2013, 01:37:48 PM I am waiting ... everyone's waiting. Any day now.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: mrb on May 20, 2013, 05:12:07 AM At Bitcoin 2013, Yifu said they will ship the sample chips (30 pieces per order of 10k) by the end of May.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: FCTaiChi on June 06, 2013, 11:00:20 PM So .. may ended eh?
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Reckman on June 07, 2013, 02:27:46 AM So .. may ended eh? they use really fast china shipping ofc Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: FCTaiChi on June 08, 2013, 03:00:55 PM I really want some companies to deliver on a promise now and then. I understand this isn't the most simple thing in the world, and that people are often working with minimal capitol. Wouldn't you learn to give better buffer times for your projects? or not announce until you have the product? Hard to understand how these things happen so often.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: erschiessen on June 08, 2013, 03:07:47 PM I really want some companies to deliver on a promise now and then. I understand this isn't the most simple thing in the world, and that people are often working with minimal capitol. Wouldn't you learn to give better buffer times for your projects? or not announce until you have the product? Hard to understand how these things happen so often. +1 Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: titomane on June 08, 2013, 03:09:15 PM no one has received a single chip
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: titomane on June 08, 2013, 03:13:29 PM Yifu said there would be some news by this weekend. Not sure what the news is though. I'm guessing might be related to sample chips seeing as they're meant to be shipped end of May. Is it true? Dates have never met.Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: erschiessen on June 08, 2013, 03:40:56 PM no one has received a single chip This weekend, though, boys and girls (if you have gone outside and hugged your mother) there just MAY be an update.Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: PeZ on June 08, 2013, 03:42:54 PM The news is he bought an island in the South Pacific and has retired.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: auto2nr1 on June 08, 2013, 08:03:14 PM Looking at batch 2 being delivered in May and throughout the rest of June. Maybe batch 3 will be delivered throughout July and the first orders of 10k chips will start shipping in August/Sept? That is way off the original projected date on Avalon's website at 9-10 weeks. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: erschiessen on June 08, 2013, 08:19:44 PM It will show that BFL is not the only incompetent player in the game.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: ftping on June 09, 2013, 12:13:14 AM Looking at batch 2 being delivered in May and throughout the rest of June. Maybe batch 3 will be delivered throughout July and the first orders of 10k chips will start shipping in August/Sept? That is way off the original projected date on Avalon's website at 9-10 weeks. What do you guys think? Yifu posted yesterday and stated there would be an update within the next week that would be "pretty exciting". Until then, "get back to coding, go outside, hug your mother, do something" Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: szmarco on June 09, 2013, 01:07:26 AM Looking at batch 2 being delivered in May and throughout the rest of June. Maybe batch 3 will be delivered throughout July and the first orders of 10k chips will start shipping in August/Sept? That is way off the original projected date on Avalon's website at 9-10 weeks. What do you guys think? Yifu posted yesterday and stated there would be an update within the next week that would be "pretty exciting". Until then, "get back to coding, go outside, hug your mother, do something" Could you plz paste the url? Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Bicknellski on June 09, 2013, 01:14:26 AM It will show that BFL is not the only incompetent player in the game. Only if they deliver chips 11 months late you mean. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Jimmy2011 on June 09, 2013, 01:37:08 AM Looking at batch 2 being delivered in May and throughout the rest of June. Maybe batch 3 will be delivered throughout July and the first orders of 10k chips will start shipping in August/Sept? That is way off the original projected date on Avalon's website at 9-10 weeks. What do you guys think? Yifu posted yesterday and stated there would be an update within the next week that would be "pretty exciting". Until then, "get back to coding, go outside, hug your mother, do something" Could you plz paste the url? Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227103.msg2399090#msg2399090 Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: FCTaiChi on June 09, 2013, 02:36:27 AM Wow that's horrid. No apology, sorry we screwed up again and will be late again, we understand why people might be upset. No, go outside and hug your mother, shut up you're just wasting your time. This says that he does not care about his customers. Does everyone get a blatantly superior attitude when they're constantly caught being wrong?
He should be reassuring people now, not saying that we are all fools for talking about yet another problem. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: mxz280 on June 09, 2013, 02:59:58 AM 中国收到了测试芯片。
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: szmarco on June 09, 2013, 03:01:39 AM Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: mxz280 on June 09, 2013, 03:03:59 AM 我可以给你图片
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: yuchuanzhen on June 09, 2013, 03:06:33 AM Here you go http://www.weibo.com/3196195794/zABnQppjI
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Toolhead on June 09, 2013, 03:10:04 AM so, in english please?! ??? ::)
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: minternj on June 09, 2013, 03:12:32 AM So who's making pcb's in china for the avalon chips?
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: mxz280 on June 09, 2013, 03:15:16 AM China received the test chip.http://www.weibo.com/3196195794/zABnQppjI
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: yuchuanzhen on June 09, 2013, 03:16:54 AM so, in english please?! ??? ::) Quote China received the test chip.http://www.weibo.com/3196195794/zABnQppjI Quote 2013年6月9日10时26分,我们收到一个匿名顺丰快递。 我想告诉大家的是:阿瓦隆芯片样片已到货,PCB研发正在紧锣密鼓进行中! GMT+8 2013.06.09 10:26AMWe got a package. It's Avalon Sample Chips.. Working on the PCB.. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: fusion7 on June 09, 2013, 03:20:15 AM Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Toolhead on June 09, 2013, 03:20:30 AM OMG! :o
Gentlemen, start your engines! Can't believe, that this is actually happening. omg. omg. But let's wait for further proofs... Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Jimmy2011 on June 09, 2013, 03:29:17 AM I don't know whether they are serious. It's an anonymous package.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: FCTaiChi on June 09, 2013, 03:42:11 AM Avalon *raises one eyebrow*
So that's a set of sample chips, and don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see it. But their site still says 9-10wks for delivery of chips. How long have people been waiting again? is this really reasonable? Come on, more transparency. Stop screwing with people. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Xian01 on June 09, 2013, 03:43:38 AM This is awesome to see ! Glad things are picking up speed with the Avalon team.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: FCTaiChi on June 09, 2013, 04:08:20 AM This is awesome to see ! Glad things are picking up speed with the Avalon team. Yes, I hope so, but still every week.. every day counts at this point. I'm trying to keep track of all the possible ways to get hashing power to the public here.. There are a lot of people that will see this and hit the order button. Well good, I'm sure they'll get chips eventually, if Avalon has their say. They seem to be really trying here. But WHY can't they stop lying about lead time? It is extremely misleading to their customers, when timing is the key element.Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: John (John K.) on June 09, 2013, 04:46:48 AM Okay, this is news to me. I have 6( or was it 7? ) group buy's worth of chips ordered, and so far there's not even a chirp from them. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: southerngentuk on June 09, 2013, 05:12:18 AM Okay, this is news to me. I have 6( or was it 7? ) group buy's worth of chips ordered, and so far there's not even a chirp from them. I hope the group buy i am in, is not the one you can`t remember !!! :D Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: John (John K.) on June 09, 2013, 05:15:54 AM Okay, this is news to me. I have 6( or was it 7? ) group buy's worth of chips ordered, and so far there's not even a chirp from them. I hope the group buy i am in, is not the one you can`t remember !!! :D No, the total is 6, just checked. :P Hopefully Avalon starts to send out the samples soon.. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: peetah on June 09, 2013, 05:16:42 AM There is no notification email. It just gets sent. That address was in Beijing which is why they got it first? Perhaps a bit of patience?
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: John (John K.) on June 09, 2013, 05:20:12 AM There is no notification email. It just gets sent. That address was in Beijing which is why they got it first? Perhaps a bit of patience? Well, about 3 of my group buys are based in Beijing. Hopefully the operator gets the chips soon... Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Jimmy2011 on June 09, 2013, 06:31:44 AM Where is it shipped from?
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: dan99 on June 09, 2013, 06:55:35 AM Where is it shipped from? Probably TSMC Taipei, Taiwan Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: John (John K.) on June 09, 2013, 06:57:52 AM Where is it shipped from? Probably TSMC Taipei, Taiwan No. The shipping should be from China. TSMC does not package and send out individual chips. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: ftping on June 09, 2013, 11:53:57 AM So people are receiving sample chips before the rest of Batch 2 and 3 are being shipped out?
Doesn't something seem wrong with that? Disclaimer: I have a batch 3 order. >:( Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: ujka on June 09, 2013, 12:01:10 PM So people are receiving sample chips before the rest of Batch 2 and 3 are being shipped out? Those are sample chips for developers to test their boards, just 30 pcs for every 10k order.Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: John (John K.) on June 09, 2013, 12:10:21 PM I see that a China based group buy I'm escrowing for has received the sample chips. :D
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: erschiessen on June 09, 2013, 12:11:59 PM So people are receiving sample chips before the rest of Batch 2 and 3 are being shipped out? Doesn't something seem wrong with that? Disclaimer: I have a batch 3 order. >:( One person claims to have received sample chips. I wonder if the chips are from the lot that will be used to make your miner. Maybe they just arrived and your machine will be built licketysplit. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Jimmy2011 on June 09, 2013, 02:17:18 PM I got the sample chips, which were shipped from Haidian district, Beijing.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: erschiessen on June 09, 2013, 02:20:46 PM I got the sample chips, which were shipped from Haidian district, Beijing. You got them, Jimmy?Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Jimmy2011 on June 09, 2013, 02:24:43 PM I got the sample chips, which were shipped from Haidian district, Beijing. You got them, Jimmy?Yes, I got a call this morning at 10:30 from SF-express and then I asked someone to accept the package for me. But I didn't realize it as Avalon chips. After I confirmed the package was shipped from Haidian, I realized that might be the chips, so I returned back from a trip in advance. And now I got 30 sample chips. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Toolhead on June 09, 2013, 02:30:14 PM Uh yeah!
Come on Avalon! Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Humax on June 09, 2013, 02:35:11 PM Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: John (John K.) on June 09, 2013, 03:46:53 PM Newest update on my Avalon account (note that this is for Jimmy2011's order, which he has already received)
Quote Sunday 9th of June 2013, 03:28pm 样品已寄出,顺丰单号SF:302 278 xxxxxx 请注意,每个地址的多个订单只寄出1份样品。 Translated, that roughly means that: Quote Sample is sent, and the SF express tracking is: 302... Please note that each (residence) address' multiple orders will only get a single sample. That means we're shortchanged 60 chips for now, and possibly more. :'( Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Jimmy2011 on June 09, 2013, 03:54:21 PM Newest update on my Avalon account (note that this is for Jimmy2011's order, which he has already received) Quote Sunday 9th of June 2013, 03:28pm 样品已寄出,顺丰单号SF:302 278 xxxxxx 请注意,每个地址的多个订单只寄出1份样品。 Translated, that roughly means that: Quote Sample is sent, and the SF express tracking is: 302... Please note that each (residence) address' multiple orders will only get a single sample. That means we're shortchanged 60 chips for now, and possibly more. :'( Will I get more sample chips according to 30 sample chips per 10000 chips order? How should I distribute the sample chips to the group buyers, based on the 1st group buy, or all three batches? Before this message, actually I have posted the distribution message based on just the 1st group buy. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: John (John K.) on June 09, 2013, 04:03:29 PM Newest update on my Avalon account (note that this is for Jimmy2011's order, which he has already received) Quote Sunday 9th of June 2013, 03:28pm 样品已寄出,顺丰单号SF:302 278 xxxxxx 请注意,每个地址的多个订单只寄出1份样品。 Translated, that roughly means that: Quote Sample is sent, and the SF express tracking is: 302... Please note that each (residence) address' multiple orders will only get a single sample. That means we're shortchanged 60 chips for now, and possibly more. :'( Will I get more sample chips according to 30 sample chips per 10000 chips order? How should I distribute the sample chips to the group buyers, based on the 1st group buy, or all three batches? Before this message, actually I have posted the distribution message based on just the 1st group buy. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Bitcoinorama on June 09, 2013, 04:32:48 PM Good news for the Avalon bulk buyers! Good luck!!
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: dan99 on June 09, 2013, 04:50:00 PM Yes, is indeed good news, so hopefully in another 2 weeks to received the Avalon Chip?
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: fasmax on June 09, 2013, 05:03:47 PM Yes, is indeed good news, so hopefully in another 2 weeks to received the Avalon Chip? The way things seem to work my guess would be more like 4 weeks.Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: psjw4450 on June 09, 2013, 05:08:02 PM I would probably estimate at least 8 weeks with the way avalon has been shipping orders out.
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: edarta on June 09, 2013, 05:13:21 PM Received notification as well, sample chips send from Beijing (with EMS).
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: HorseRider on June 09, 2013, 05:18:01 PM Will I get more sample chips according to 30 sample chips per 10000 chips order? How should I distribute the sample chips to the group buyers, based on the 1st group buy, or all three batches? Before this message, actually I have posted the distribution message based on just the 1st group buy. you're fucked. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Bitcoinorama on June 09, 2013, 05:31:55 PM Yes, is indeed good news, so hopefully in another 2 weeks to received the Avalon Chip? The way things seem to work my guess would be more like 4 weeks.Not sure about that. The payment for bulk chip manufacture is still sitting in Bitsyncom's wallet. Also they have a responsibility to fulfill their Batch 2, 3 and the poor sod's from Batch 1 Avalon's that still haven't received their unit first! That would be seriously sly to f**k those guys over by prioritising the bulk orders over their units. Their time for ROI has already significantly diminished from what they were led to believe... Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: turtle83 on June 09, 2013, 05:36:17 PM Yes, is indeed good news, so hopefully in another 2 weeks to received the Avalon Chip? The way things seem to work my guess would be more like 4 weeks.Not sure about that. The payment for bulk chip manufacture is still sitting in Bitsyncom's wallet. Also they have a responsibility to fulfill their Batch 2, 3 and the poor sod's from Batch 1 Avalon's that still haven't received their unit first! That would be seriously sly to f**k those guys over by prioritising the bulk orders over their units. Their time for ROI has already significantly diminished from what they were led to believe... So you what ur saying is... even if the foundry finished building the chips, they should hold off shipping those until they can finish assembling batch 2/3 of the full units? Sounds a bit selfish dont you think? Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: dmcdad on June 09, 2013, 06:05:01 PM Also they have a responsibility to fulfill their Batch 2, 3 and the poor sod's from Batch 1 Avalon's that still haven't received their unit first! I'm not so sure about that. They have responsibility to do everything they can to fix their assembly production problems as quickly as possible, but presuming the problems they are having there aren't related to chip production I don't think they will hold off shipping chips until batch 2/3 (and some 1) is 100% fulfilled. Chips are a different product with different requirements than a full miner from the batches, so shipping chips whenever they are available isn't the same thing as line jumping the batch orders. Of course I'm waiting on chips and not batch 2 or 3, but even if it were the other way around I don't think I would expect them to withhold shipping of chips because of unrelated production problems with the batch miners. Especially given all along they have claimed they want to sell chips not completed miners... That said, I do agree it sucks though for the folks waiting on batch 2 and 3. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: imaclick on June 09, 2013, 06:20:48 PM Avalon sample chip received by a miner developer team in China,
http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/mw1024/be8213d2jw1e5hpdihommj21000qw13p.jpg Not sure it's the same one Jimmy mentioned. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Jimmy2011 on June 10, 2013, 12:31:12 AM Will I get more sample chips according to 30 sample chips per 10000 chips order? How should I distribute the sample chips to the group buyers, based on the 1st group buy, or all three batches? Before this message, actually I have posted the distribution message based on just the 1st group buy. you're fucked. You may fuck BitSyncom! Their comments on the sample chips that only 30 chips for each receiver address just came after our decision of the distribution. So we changed it to let all 3 batches share those 30 sample chips. I am so disappointed. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: bigbeninlondon on June 10, 2013, 12:58:39 AM Will I get more sample chips according to 30 sample chips per 10000 chips order? How should I distribute the sample chips to the group buyers, based on the 1st group buy, or all three batches? Before this message, actually I have posted the distribution message based on just the 1st group buy. you're fucked. You may fuck BitSyncom! Their comments on the sample chips that only 30 chips for each receiver address just came after our decision of the distribution. So we changed it to let all 3 batches share those 30 sample chips. I am so disappointed. I think most of the major devs will get what they need. Now what's the lead time on the batch orders? Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: bobboooiie on June 10, 2013, 01:22:15 AM Were this sample chips the big weekend announcement? I presume not but I dont see anything else ?
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: dan99 on June 10, 2013, 05:07:39 AM remember to shoot some sample chip to Bkkcoins and burnin for them to test and tweak b4 actual chip arrives :)
Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: dan99 on June 10, 2013, 05:10:02 AM Also they have a responsibility to fulfill their Batch 2, 3 and the poor sod's from Batch 1 Avalon's that still haven't received their unit first! I'm not so sure about that. They have responsibility to do everything they can to fix their assembly production problems as quickly as possible, but presuming the problems they are having there aren't related to chip production I don't think they will hold off shipping chips until batch 2/3 (and some 1) is 100% fulfilled. Chips are a different product with different requirements than a full miner from the batches, so shipping chips whenever they are available isn't the same thing as line jumping the batch orders. Of course I'm waiting on chips and not batch 2 or 3, but even if it were the other way around I don't think I would expect them to withhold shipping of chips because of unrelated production problems with the batch miners. Especially given all along they have claimed they want to sell chips not completed miners... That said, I do agree it sucks though for the folks waiting on batch 2 and 3. Probably in about 2 to 3 weeks those 1st and 2 batch baby avalon chip should on their way ;) Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: ujka on June 10, 2013, 08:47:50 AM You may fuck BitSyncom! Their comments on the sample chips that only 30 chips for each receiver address just came after our decision of the distribution. So we changed it to let all 3 batches share those 30 sample chips. I am so disappointed. Easy ;)We all got upset, but it's sorted now. It was some miscommunication inside Avalon (shipping crew). Every 10k order will get 30 sample chips. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: erschiessen on June 10, 2013, 01:07:02 PM You may fuck BitSyncom! Their comments on the sample chips that only 30 chips for each receiver address just came after our decision of the distribution. So we changed it to let all 3 batches share those 30 sample chips. I am so disappointed. Easy ;)We all got upset, but it's sorted now. It was some miscommunication inside Avalon (shipping crew). Every 10k order will get 30 sample chips. I will look for it as well, but my email from Avalon-ASIC said nothing like that. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: ujka on June 10, 2013, 01:18:54 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230157.msg2428298#msg2428298 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230157.msg2428298#msg2428298)
Posted by BitSyncom. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: erschiessen on June 10, 2013, 01:58:40 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230157.msg2428298#msg2428298 Thank you.Posted by BitSyncom. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: innovation on June 10, 2013, 03:54:49 PM I see that a China based group buy I'm escrowing for has received the sample chips. :D Yes, Jimmy2011 recevied 30 avalon chips. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: innovation on June 10, 2013, 03:55:52 PM I see that a China based group buy I'm escrowing for has received the sample chips. :D Yes, Jimmy2011 recevied 30 avalon chips. But , bad news is 30 chips only for 3 orders of 30K avalon chips Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: innovation on June 10, 2013, 03:58:13 PM Will I get more sample chips according to 30 sample chips per 10000 chips order? How should I distribute the sample chips to the group buyers, based on the 1st group buy, or all three batches? Before this message, actually I have posted the distribution message based on just the 1st group buy. you're fucked. You may fuck BitSyncom! Their comments on the sample chips that only 30 chips for each receiver address just came after our decision of the distribution. So we changed it to let all 3 batches share those 30 sample chips. I am so disappointed. Oh, If u fuck BitSyncom, things will be worse. I thanks batch #3 avalon must be ahead of avalon chips. Title: Re: Avalon Sample Chips Post by: Toolhead on June 10, 2013, 04:21:01 PM I see that a China based group buy I'm escrowing for has received the sample chips. :D Yes, Jimmy2011 recevied 30 avalon chips. But , bad news is 30 chips only for 3 orders of 30K avalon chips Yifu posted, that this was a misunderstanding and everyone should get 30 chips per ordered batch. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=230157.msg2428298#msg2428298 |