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Title: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 20, 2013, 10:59:58 PM
Is it me, or am I going crazy?
I just had a 225 byte transaction take 1273 minutes to confirm. That's over 21 hours. For a 225 byte transaction.
TXID is 52323d47079e8bbac8680313cba02f60b77395bd77bda33e9a750fdda689f537. Somebody, please enlighten me :D


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Tywill on May 21, 2013, 01:51:40 AM
Trying to figure out the same thing, I didnt see this post earlier or I wouldn't have posted my own thread on the same subject.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: scintill on May 21, 2013, 02:10:07 AM
I'm going to guess it's because of

Fees: 0 BTC

Most miners allow a certain amount of free transactions per block (I think it's based on cumulative size), so you just have to wait until someone decides your tx is going to go into that space.  Also remember nobody has an obligation to mine your transaction at any speed for any price.  The higher the fee, the more likely they will do it quickly though.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: BitAddict on May 21, 2013, 04:03:26 AM
First warning: Pay the fees!


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Zeilap on May 21, 2013, 06:55:14 AM
There was no fee, so you're only chance is to get in by priority. You tried to spend an output which was only 2 days old and only 1BTC. Priority is calculated as age*amount, so there's going to be lots more transactions with higher priority which come before yours. So your only chance is to get lucky where a couple of quick blocks in a row flush out all the waiting transactions, or you have to wait for your inputs to get older so your priority increases sufficiently.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 21, 2013, 11:46:50 AM
Meh.
I HATE paying fees. Especially cause I'm this poor :)
And anyway, I've done a ton of low priority transactions, with no fee, and they've been all much faster.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2013, 12:01:24 PM
most pools love fee's, not because it helps the miners but because the pool owners 'cut' is the fee and he then gives near on all of the 25btc to the workers.

i personally think mining pool owners should have their own miners working along side other miners for their 'cut' and then not be so greedy.

Fee's should not be something that is essential for transactions just yet. especially when they end up being more then a few penny's worth, instead people should be accepting the reward alone as their reward and only require fee's in a few years, when the rewards are super small.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Lauda on May 21, 2013, 12:24:59 PM
Meh.
I HATE paying fees. Especially cause I'm this poor :)
And anyway, I've done a ton of low priority transactions, with no fee, and they've been all much faster.
That's pretty dumb, it's like: I won't pay taxes because my salary is low, lmao :D


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: tysat on May 21, 2013, 12:26:23 PM
No fee, no bitching about confirmation time

/thread


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: grue on May 21, 2013, 02:02:37 PM
Meh.
I HATE paying fees. Especially cause I'm this poor :)
And anyway, I've done a ton of low priority transactions, with no fee, and they've been all much faster.
the minimum fee is 0.005 BTC. that's 50 cents. how can you not pay that fee?


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 21, 2013, 02:12:53 PM
That's not the minimum fee. That's the recommended fee :P
I'm just too poor.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: tysat on May 21, 2013, 02:13:50 PM
Meh.
I HATE paying fees. Especially cause I'm this poor :)
And anyway, I've done a ton of low priority transactions, with no fee, and they've been all much faster.
the minimum fee is 0.005 BTC. that's 50 cents. how can you not pay that fee?

No it's not.

I throw in .0001 usually and get quick confirmations.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 21, 2013, 02:15:55 PM
If I threw in BTC0.0001 for every transaction I made in my entire Bitcoin history, I'd be broke by now.
I'm a dust collector. No comment.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: scintill on May 21, 2013, 11:16:36 PM
If I threw in BTC0.0001 for every transaction I made in my entire Bitcoin history, I'd be broke by now.
I'm a dust collector. No comment.

Well, that's fine, but just know that free transactions are typically going to confirm slower than paid ones.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 21, 2013, 11:25:24 PM
Well, yeah. That's expected. But 21 hrs? :P


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: grue on May 22, 2013, 12:16:16 AM
Well, yeah. That's expected. But 21 hrs? :P
yep, deal with it.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 23, 2013, 08:08:15 PM
Is it me, or has blockchain.info's node progressing tracking completely gone wacko?
One of my transactions went to 91% node progression. A few hours later, it's down to 1% :P


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: grue on May 24, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Is it me, or has blockchain.info's node progressing tracking completely gone wacko?
One of my transactions went to 91% node progression. A few hours later, it's down to 1% :P
it probably got dropped from nodes' memory pool


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 24, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
Is it me, or has blockchain.info's node progressing tracking completely gone wacko?
One of my transactions went to 91% node progression. A few hours later, it's down to 1% :P
it probably got dropped from nodes' memory pool

Ah. Why would that happen?


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: prezbo on May 25, 2013, 08:08:45 AM
I HATE paying fees. Especially cause I'm this poor :)
And I as a miner HATE doing work for free. That's the gist of it.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: grue on May 25, 2013, 04:39:29 PM
Ah. Why would that happen?
If I recall correctly, each peer's memory pool is cleared on exit. Therefore, as nodes go offline (system restart, daemon crash, etc.), the transaction gradually disappears from the network.

Or it could be because blockchain.info is bugged. I sent a 0 fee transaction (that normally required a fee) using the NFTF fork, and it got 95%+ propagation. After 5 minutes, it dropped to 1%. It still got confirmed in ~6 hours.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 25, 2013, 04:52:48 PM
Ah. Why would that happen?
If I recall correctly, each peer's memory pool is cleared on exit. Therefore, as nodes go offline (system restart, daemon crash, etc.), the transaction gradually disappears from the network.

Or it could be because blockchain.info is bugged. I sent a 0 fee transaction (that normally required a fee) using the NFTF fork, and it got 95%+ propagation. After 5 minutes, it dropped to 1%. It still got confirmed in ~6 hours.

Ah, okay :)


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on May 27, 2013, 10:52:32 PM
Great...
Just had another one take 39 hours :P
TXID a037032c74c40d25c4d33f54301ec48cdd60ee8261218c55ff9e45346feb7205

:(


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: prezbo on May 28, 2013, 10:27:08 AM
Great...
Just had another one take 39 hours :P
TXID a037032c74c40d25c4d33f54301ec48cdd60ee8261218c55ff9e45346feb7205

:(

If you wan't to collect dust you will have to wait, and quite rightly so.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on June 08, 2013, 12:33:22 AM
Now I am kinda confused :P
I've had no-fee transactions under 1000 bytes take more than 30 hours to confirm. However, I just made another no-fee transaction that was 2057 bytes, and it confirmed in 3 minutes :P
TXID is 2d3d0b3b39480afe1eba50b63047f980c0c31e116e203eab248b86db510105dc if anybody is interested.
Anybody care to explain why?


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: grue on June 08, 2013, 02:32:58 PM
Now I am kinda confused :P
I've had no-fee transactions under 1000 bytes take more than 30 hours to confirm. However, I just made another no-fee transaction that was 2057 bytes, and it confirmed in 3 minutes :P
TXID is 2d3d0b3b39480afe1eba50b63047f980c0c31e116e203eab248b86db510105dc if anybody is interested.
Anybody care to explain why?
the transaction had a higher priority (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Technical_info).

...or you were lucky and a pool that likes free transactions :P


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Moebius327 on June 08, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
How can one make a "free" transaction? I tried with electrum, doesn't work.


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: threeip on June 08, 2013, 10:11:10 PM
If I threw in BTC0.0001 for every transaction I made in my entire Bitcoin history, I'd be broke by now.
I'm a dust collector. No comment.

Quote
Total Received    4.86439465 BTC

 >:(


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: Injust on June 08, 2013, 10:50:37 PM
If I threw in BTC0.0001 for every transaction I made in my entire Bitcoin history, I'd be broke by now.
I'm a dust collector. No comment.

Quote
Total Received    4.86439465 BTC

 >:(

I have quite a few addresses, you know. Maybe over 100? :P
And anyway, I may have received that much, but it's because I used to (stupidly) make a lot of large transactions to consolidate my dust.
And even though that total received figure is high, compare it with the final balance. The final balance is less than half a percent of the total received :D


Title: Re: Dat Transaction Confirmation Time...
Post by: grue on June 09, 2013, 01:13:30 AM
How can one make a "free" transaction? I tried with electrum, doesn't work.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22434.0