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Title: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X
Post by: x8currency on August 23, 2017, 08:27:24 PM
X8X TGE - Token Generation Event
Executive Summary

X8X Tokens will be issued in several phases to raise funds for upgrading online Portfolio Risk Management Platform, establishing a stable cryptocurrency named X8currency (short X8C).
X8X will be issued in a limited amount (TGE only) as a standard ERC-20 Ethereum Token, tradable on online crypto exchanges.

Private placement phase is already concluded. Investment phases are scheduled:
1. Limited Whitelist TGE (19.12.2017)
2. Unlimited Whitelist TGE (20.12.2017)
2. Crowdsale (23.12.2017-19.1.2018), only in case hard cap is not reached in previous two phases

To participate in TGE, you must sign up for the Whitelist on our website (https://x8currency.com/).
X8X Tokens can be bought with Ethereum (ETH). Therefore, if you want to be a part of the X8 revolution you have to join the X8 Whitelist™.

  • Minimum cap: Min cap already raised by private placement
  • Maximum cap: Additional 3.4 mio €
  • % of tokens generated to X8 Team: 15%
  • % of tokens generated to X8 Capital AG: 6%
  • X8X created per 1 Ether (392.3723 €) @Bitstamp as of 5.12.17: 3923.723 X8X
  • Date of the start of the limited X8 Whitelist™ contribution : 19.12
  • Date of the start of the unlimited X8 Whitelist™ contribution:  20.12
  • In case max cap is not raised in first 2 phases: Crowdsale 23.12 – 19.1.2018
  • Maximum number of X8X Tokens: 100 mio
  • Of which crowdfunding participates: 52 mio
  • Of which X8 Team and X8 Capital AG: 21 mio
  • TGE Price per X8X Token: 0.1 €
  • Minimum contribution in limited phase: Announced 18.12
  • Maximum contribution in limited phase: Announced 18.12

Important explanations
X8X and X8C (https://www.ionectar.com/x8-project-token-model/)
Business model (https://www.ionectar.com/business-model-of-the-x8-utility-token/)
Security (https://www.ionectar.com/x8currency-adresses-the-matters-of-security-and-transparency/)
Whitepaper (https://x8currency.com/wp-content/uploads/X8-Project-TGE-Whitepaper.pdf)


https://i.imgur.com/LJuqLdX.png


Short description

All professional crypto investors or crowdsale projects founders experienced the fear and fury of extreme volatility in cryptocurrencies markets. The solution is a technology from the “old business”: portfolio risk management. And you can become the part of the revolution in the two-phase TGE on the 19th of December at 5PM CEST.

Check out a brief video presentation:

http://shrani.si/f/3f/Zs/7OSJoLo/videoimg.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXzU_qKuMGA)

X8 project is connecting the “old business mentality” with the blockchain world by offering investors, entrepreneurs and businessmen a solution that disperses their crypto wealth into gold and 8 fiat currencies like Dollar and Euro.


Our main weapons in the fight against against volatility are a portfolio risk management platform and our own special cryptocurrency called X8C. We’re building a safe, scalable and secure currency system for the distributed future.


But we need your help to make the revolution happen:

The first early adopters have already joined us in a private placement phase.
You can became a part of the revolution in the TGE on the 19th of December and on the 20th of December. Both days only members of the X8 Whitelist™ will be able to buy tokens in a limited amount (first day) and in an unlimited amount (second day).
Do not miss out on this opportunity we recommend you to sign up for X8 Whitelist™.

Communications



For more information about the revolution in the cryptoworld check our website (https://x8currency.com/), Medium page (https://medium.com/x8currency), Blog (https://www.ionectar.com/x-feed/) or join our public X8 Telegram channel (https://t.me/x8currency) , where your questions will be answered within hours.

X8 Team


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: CrypticGambit on August 23, 2017, 09:07:01 PM
So are you working with swiss bank? Can you prove it? The team seems weak and the website is also not so promising. Explain the deal with swiss bank please


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: minigwar on August 23, 2017, 09:28:59 PM
So are you working with swiss bank? Can you prove it? The team seems weak and the website is also not so promising. Explain the deal with swiss bank please

All I found from the website is: "X8 leverages the benefits of the Swiss financial ecosystem. FIAT funds deposited in the Swiss UBS AG, are insured by SwissRE AG and audited daily by JP Fund Services. A store of gold currency in safest certified storages outside the banking system serves as additional reserve for X8 currency."

There's no reference other than that. The website does not provide a source though . . .  ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 24, 2017, 05:19:39 AM
So are you working with swiss bank? Can you prove it? The team seems weak and the website is also not so promising. Explain the deal with swiss bank please

We will provide more info on that question soon. Meanwhile, feel free to join our Slack (http://x8currency.herokuapp.com/).


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 25, 2017, 11:33:51 AM
So are you working with swiss bank? Can you prove it? The team seems weak and the website is also not so promising. Explain the deal with swiss bank please

We are not working with UBS AG, but opening an account. Our clients' holdings will be placed there, because it is easy to insure them at SwissRE when placed in an institution of such reputation.

So are you working with swiss bank? Can you prove it? The team seems weak and the website is also not so promising. Explain the deal with swiss bank please

All I found from the website is: "X8 leverages the benefits of the Swiss financial ecosystem. FIAT funds deposited in the Swiss UBS AG, are insured by SwissRE AG and audited daily by JP Fund Services. A store of gold currency in safest certified storages outside the banking system serves as additional reserve for X8 currency."

There's no reference other than that. The website does not provide a source though . . .  ??? ???

Banks and financial institutions do not list the names of their clients, so can you explain what kind of a source you have in mind?


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Pipesnake on August 25, 2017, 11:37:06 AM
So how does this work, we need to buy some CFI tokens to take part in your ICO? whats the difference if we do not buy and participate directly? Is there some kind of additional bonus provided to the CFI token holders?


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 25, 2017, 11:45:48 AM
So how does this work, we need to buy some CFI tokens to take part in your ICO? whats the difference if we do not buy and participate directly? Is there some kind of additional bonus provided to the CFI token holders?

Hi, CFI tokens are required for the CFI Priority Pass but not for the public ICO. However, recent experience shows the cap can be reached before the public ICO. So we recommend you get CFI tokens to participate. You can find more info about the CFI Priority Pass here: https://blog.cofound.it/how-the-cofound-it-priority-pass-will-work-in-the-next-four-crowdsales-466e3497f218


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Ilmiyati on August 25, 2017, 12:42:44 PM
It seems that this project is closely related to the growth of cyptocurrency in russia that is currently undergoing a very good development, I think this project is one of the big projects that is very promising, very interesting, but hopefully not disappointing, good luck


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Vaniaayu on August 25, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
Sounds good, I just hope this project is an independent project, and not tied to the Russian government, because this project is very potential for success, I wait for further developments on ICO, I hope ICO goes well.


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 25, 2017, 04:23:40 PM
Hello guys,
We are not associated with any government. We are an independent team working from UK and Slovenia. Thank you for good wishes.


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: CaVO32 on August 26, 2017, 12:52:30 AM
very interesting concept and i would certainly like to keep reading on this thread of your answered to the other  users.


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Mazt rhiezt on August 26, 2017, 01:25:38 AM
You said that we should have at least 5,000 CFI. Is not that pretty much for developer size?
Then, what things can guarantee our advantage over the possession of the token.


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 26, 2017, 10:34:11 AM
You said that we should have at least 5,000 CFI. Is not that pretty much for developer size?
Then, what things can guarantee our advantage over the possession of the token.

The crowdsale is managed by our contractual partners, Cofound.it. This structure is entirely in their hands and is also liable to change before our ICO.
The ICO will take place in three stages. First, on 12 September, there will be a limited pre-sale for Priority Pass holders. On 13 September there will be unlimited pre-sale for PP holders. And finally on 14 September the public crowdsale with no restrictions to access. The CFI platform through which the ICO will take place will check if the participant holds at least 5000 CFI. You can check out the individual caps for the first stage here: https://blog.cofound.it/how-the-cofound-it-priority-pass-will-work-in-the-next-four-crowdsales-466e3497f218

For additional info you can also contact the CFI team on their Telegram channel: https://t.me/cofounditchat


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: crypto.future on August 28, 2017, 07:47:56 AM
I don't really get what is the meaning of two tokens. Will I get both, if I invest in your ICO? As I understand X8C is a stable token. Why would I invest in a stable token? Must have missed something  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 28, 2017, 08:21:46 AM
I don't really get what is the meaning of two tokens. Will I get both, if I invest in your ICO? As I understand X8C is a stable token. Why would I invest in a stable token? Must have missed something  ???
You only get the fintech token (X8X) in the ICO. This one is not asset-backed or pegged to anything. Whereas X8C will be about stability and safety, X8X will enable holders to participate in the financial benefits of the X8 enterprise. For further info, check out this article https://www.ionectar.com/x8-currency-system-funds-distribution/


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: crypto.future on August 29, 2017, 10:19:35 AM
I don't really get what is the meaning of two tokens. Will I get both, if I invest in your ICO? As I understand X8C is a stable token. Why would I invest in a stable token? Must have missed something  ???
You only get the fintech token (X8X) in the ICO. This one is not asset-backed or pegged to anything. Whereas X8C will be about stability and safety, X8X will enable holders to participate in the financial benefits of the X8 enterprise. For further info, check out this article https://www.ionectar.com/x8-currency-system-funds-distribution/

And how will I profit from X8C if I only have X8X?


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 29, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
And how will I profit from X8C if I only have X8X?

There are two channels through which positive business outcomes in X8C will influence X8X:
1. 1% issuance fee minus costs (the issuance fee applies every time new X8C tokens are bought directly from our fund manager X8 AG)
2. 30% of the profits generated by our Automatic Reserves Management AI.

The abovementioned funds will be used to automatically create buyback demand for X8X. This flow of funds is also presented on the following graphic:



Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Exander on August 29, 2017, 11:12:41 AM
how will you fold ionectar technology into crypto world?

and how will you keep the price stable in case of huge demand for x8c?


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 29, 2017, 11:30:36 AM
how will you fold ionectar technology into crypto world?

and how will you keep the price stable in case of huge demand for x8c?

Technology developed by IoNectar will be implemented into the crypto world through the stable X8C token, which will consist from 8 different fiat currencies and gold coins. All X8C tokens will be fully (100%) backed at any time. Unlike other "stable" coins the value of X8C will not be pegged to the mentioned basket, as the basket will be active and managed by our Automatic Reserves Management trading AI system (ARM AI). The ARM AI was in development for over 10 years and has a proven track record, as shown in the graph bellow:


The purpose of X8C is providing maximum stability and liquidity to the market. Thus, there are certain automatic procedures in place for cases when the market price of X8C exceeds its intrinsic value for 1% or more, like providing additional stability.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Exander on August 30, 2017, 10:20:25 AM
I checked you website and read the whitepaper, but still don't get it which firm controls what. Ionectar? x8 AG? JP Funds? UBS?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 30, 2017, 11:53:22 AM
I checked you website and read the whitepaper, but still don't get it which firm controls what. Ionectar? x8 AG? JP Funds? UBS?
Hey, x8 AG manages the x8c, IoNectar manages x8x. Others are just institutions where reserves are placed, except for JP Funds which provides monitoring and auditing.


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 31, 2017, 08:05:14 AM
Check out why we chose Switzerland to hold our reserves.

https://www.ionectar.com/x8-and-the-swiss-financial-ecosystem/


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 31, 2017, 09:51:10 AM
We have opened a discussion channel on telegram. You are welcome to join us. https://t.me/joinchat/DLdRTA4n4K-w1Fsn6v3oCQ


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: btcltcdigger on August 31, 2017, 11:47:04 AM
Hello guys,
We are not associated with any government. We are an independent team working from UK and Slovenia. Thank you for good wishes.

Where in Slovenia?


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: btcminer49er on August 31, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
Hello guys,
We are not associated with any government. We are an independent team working from UK and Slovenia. Thank you for good wishes.

Is there a registered Company behind this?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Ahmed Kimo on August 31, 2017, 11:50:29 AM
what is the steps to get this ICO ?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: btcltcdigger on August 31, 2017, 11:53:32 AM
what is the steps to get this ICO ?

Sale starts in 12 days


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: JustLooking7 on August 31, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
Info about project - 10% info about ICO - 90%. Seems like much of emty promises... Be careful people is all I am saying


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: btcltcdigger on August 31, 2017, 12:00:50 PM
Info about project - 10% info about ICO - 90%. Seems like much of emty promises... Be careful people is all I am saying

I'm not sure they're completely empty promises.
Some of their facts actually hold water


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 31, 2017, 02:18:16 PM
Hello guys,
We are not associated with any government. We are an independent team working from UK and Slovenia. Thank you for good wishes.

Where in Slovenia?

In Slovenia we work in the capital, Ljubljana.


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 31, 2017, 02:21:15 PM
Hello guys,
We are not associated with any government. We are an independent team working from UK and Slovenia. Thank you for good wishes.

Is there a registered Company behind this?

Yes,

IONECTAR FINANCIAL LIMITED
27, Old Gloucester Street, London
United Kingdom
info@ionectar.com


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 31, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
what is the steps to get this ICO ?
Hi, this is a Cofound.it project and they are organizing the ICO.
It will take place in three phases
September 12 limited Priority Pass ICO
September 13 unlimited Priority Pass ICO
September 14 public ICO without restricted access

To participate in the presale you have to obtain Cofound.it. priority pass.
More info on that: http://bit.ly/2fO1oYc   
How Priority Pass works: http://bit.ly/2xtNfmE


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 31, 2017, 02:35:44 PM
Info about project - 10% info about ICO - 90%. Seems like much of emty promises... Be careful people is all I am saying

Hello, an introduction to our project is available here:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/busines-plan-x8.pdf


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Exander on August 31, 2017, 04:16:49 PM
when do you expect cryptocurrencies to be implemented into X8C and what use will X8C have until cryptocurrencies are added into basket?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on August 31, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
when do you expect cryptocurrencies to be implemented into X8C and what use will X8C have until cryptocurrencies are added into basket?
The success of the X8currrency project does not depend on the addition of cryptocurrencies, because it provides the functions of stability and safety already with fiat and gold. But to design a token with a totally market-independent outcome, cryptocurrencies will be added. We hope to add bitcoin to the basket within two years. More on this here: https://medium.com/x8currency/when-x8-will-add-bitcoin-as-the-9th-currency-da40860af91b


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: btcminer49er on September 01, 2017, 06:18:06 AM
Info about project - 10% info about ICO - 90%. Seems like much of emty promises... Be careful people is all I am saying

Hello, an introduction to our project is available here:
https://cofounditmedia.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/documents/busines-plan-x8.pdf

Thanks, i'll have a read and contact you on slack


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Exander on September 01, 2017, 08:50:43 AM
what currency will we be able to convert into in case we cash out from x8c? all out of 9 in the basket?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on September 01, 2017, 11:35:23 AM
what currency will we be able to convert into in case we cash out from x8c? all out of 9 in the basket?

You will be able to convert into any of the fiat currencies form the basket.


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Damariis on September 01, 2017, 03:39:17 PM
how will you fold ionectar technology into crypto world?

and how will you keep the price stable in case of huge demand for x8c?

Technology developed by IoNectar will be implemented into the crypto world through the stable X8C token, which will consist from 8 different fiat currencies and gold coins. All X8C tokens will be fully (100%) backed at any time. Unlike other "stable" coins the value of X8C will not be pegged to the mentioned basket, as the basket will be active and managed by our Automatic Reserves Management trading AI system (ARM AI). The ARM AI was in development for over 10 years and has a proven track record, as shown in the graph bellow:


The purpose of X8C is providing maximum stability and liquidity to the market. Thus, there are certain automatic procedures in place for cases when the market price of X8C exceeds its intrinsic value for 1% or more, like providing additional stability.

Your project is interesting but it lacks transparency. You say the ARM AI is tested since 10 years but you only provide a chart with 1.5 year history. Since fiat and gold timeseries price data are available at tick level, you may have a backtest of your strategy over longer period.

Last, ARM AI automaticaly allocates the capital to the 8 assets, but it comes at a price: fees, spread and commission. Maybe you could a little bit more how this ARM AI takes it's decisions to remains positive over time ? the basic of the strategy, without revealing the algo core and design. Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: btcminer49er on September 01, 2017, 11:35:38 PM
what currency will we be able to convert into in case we cash out from x8c? all out of 9 in the basket?

You will be able to convert into any of the fiat currencies form the basket.

Basket meaning USD and EURO?
Any more fiat?


Title: Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on September 02, 2017, 07:55:24 AM
how will you fold ionectar technology into crypto world?

and how will you keep the price stable in case of huge demand for x8c?

Technology developed by IoNectar will be implemented into the crypto world through the stable X8C token, which will consist from 8 different fiat currencies and gold coins. All X8C tokens will be fully (100%) backed at any time. Unlike other "stable" coins the value of X8C will not be pegged to the mentioned basket, as the basket will be active and managed by our Automatic Reserves Management trading AI system (ARM AI). The ARM AI was in development for over 10 years and has a proven track record, as shown in the graph bellow:


The purpose of X8C is providing maximum stability and liquidity to the market. Thus, there are certain automatic procedures in place for cases when the market price of X8C exceeds its intrinsic value for 1% or more, like providing additional stability.

Your project is interesting but it lacks transparency. You say the ARM AI is tested since 10 years but you only provide a chart with 1.5 year history. Since fiat and gold timeseries price data are available at tick level, you may have a backtest of your strategy over longer period.

Last, ARM AI automaticaly allocates the capital to the 8 assets, but it comes at a price: fees, spread and commission. Maybe you could a little bit more how this ARM AI takes it's decisions to remains positive over time ? the basic of the strategy, without revealing the algo core and design. Thanks!

It took over 10 years to develop ARM AI. During this time it was tested at various stages of development and additions. The history you mention is from the start of the operation of live accounts. Our white paper gives a description of the ARM AI system without revealing the algorythms: http://bit.ly/2shdOZs


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on September 02, 2017, 08:34:12 AM
what currency will we be able to convert into in case we cash out from x8c? all out of 9 in the basket?

You will be able to convert into any of the fiat currencies form the basket.

Basket meaning USD and EURO?
Any more fiat?
Yes, there are 8 fiat currencies in the basket. USD, EUR, JPY, AUD, GBP, CAD, CHF, NZD. you can see the basic on our website: https://x8currency.com/


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: Exander on September 02, 2017, 03:59:01 PM
is there a limit when investing in ico?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on September 02, 2017, 04:46:29 PM
is there a limit when investing in ico?
Yes, the contributions in the first, limited phase of the ICO will follow the below listed order.

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1000/1*f_wPWFAuKKEAVIc2C_kOug.png

More on the CFI Pripority Pass can be found here: http://bit.ly/2xtNfmE


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: crypto.future on September 04, 2017, 09:06:01 AM
Ok looked at your website, blogs and slack. The project looks really interesting. The only thing that I am a bit confused still is this Cofoundit Priority pass. Their website is just confusing. I read somewhere that I need to register a couple of days before the ICO, to be able to participate. Is that true?


Title: Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token
Post by: x8currency on September 04, 2017, 09:47:42 AM
Ok looked at your website, blogs and slack. The project looks really interesting. The only thing that I am a bit confused still is this Cofoundit Priority pass. Their website is just confusing. I read somewhere that I need to register a couple of days before the ICO, to be able to participate. Is that true?

As explained, our ICO will be held in association with Cofound.it. Thus, the ICO will be split into 3 phases - limited Priority Pass, unlimited Priority Pass and public crowdsale. To be able to participate in the first two phases, you have to posses at least 5000 CFI tokens in you wallet and register on the Cofound.it website. More information can be found here - http://bit.ly/2xtNfmE

It is important that you successfully register and obtain 5000 CFI tokens 4 days before the star of the ICO, as a snapshot of eligible participators will be take on the Cofound.it platform. So in our case that is September 8, 17.00 CET.