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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: Dragonknigh on August 24, 2017, 11:13:08 AM



Title: Noob question
Post by: Dragonknigh on August 24, 2017, 11:13:08 AM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Pursuer on August 24, 2017, 01:11:43 PM
in theory yes. that is how you trade anything, you buy them when they are low and sell them when they are high. and that is exactly what you just described here. and you are right so far it sounds simple but the hard part is knowing what that "low" and "high" prices are to buy and sell respectively.

and from $10 to $11 may sound small but if you look closer that is a 10% profit and that doesn't really happen ever day easily!

visit the trading board here, you can find similar questions and if you use google you can find articles and videos for helping you get started with trading.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Wingo on August 24, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
The hard part is predicting the right fluctuation of bitcoin's price in order to gain profit. It is better to wait for the right time to trade your bitcoin in order not to lose money.
 
Bitcoin's price is always going up. But there are some period that it gets low, this results to people buying bitcoins in order to hoard it. Then the supply gets low and the demand increases resulting to the bitcoin's price going up.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: maokoto on August 24, 2017, 01:47:30 PM
Yes you can do so. To do that, you have to register in a Bitcoin exchange site that allows to buy and sell.

However, keep in mind that most exchanges have trading minimums and fees for trading and withdrawing money. So you do not earn the whole difference between the buy and sell orders.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: LodisMcguire on August 24, 2017, 01:51:26 PM
Yes that's the basic,but there is one thing you miss,if it just a little change,there are fees in any transaction,so if the coin only change just a few satoshi you could lose if you sell without counting the fees first


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Kprawn on August 24, 2017, 02:10:11 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?

Well, you will have to wait for it to go a little higher. Some of these exchanges charge trading fees on all trades and also

withdrawal and deposit fees. Once you reach the point where you "clear" the expenses to trade. {fees are covered} you

will make a profit buying low and selling high. I have made a few hundred dollars with single trades in hours with the

volatility of Bitcoin.  ;)


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: okissabam on August 24, 2017, 02:21:13 PM
Technically yes that is how you trade, it is as simple as buying them at a low price and selling them when the price is high. But there are still a lot of terms you can learn from when trading like short term which is what you are asking, you could also do long term wherein you sell the coin after a long period of time.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: cantstopthebeat on August 24, 2017, 02:50:25 PM
Yes, thats trading, but coins dont always go up, they go down too.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: mrwildy on August 24, 2017, 03:00:04 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?

Hi Dragonknigh, you can try to get a demo account at a trading platform to learn more on how to trade crypto. I recommend eToro as you are able to get hold of a virtual account, which allows you to practise your trades and hone your skills before you start trading officially. Another useful feature is copy traders, where you can try to copy a few successful crypto traders to see what they are doing. Generally it's better to practice first before you start any real trades. And when you start, don't be greedy - start with a small capital first!

You can access eToro via http://partners.etoro.com/A65792_TClick.aspx (http://partners.etoro.com/A65792_TClick.aspx). Good luck, and if you need more help, just holler!



Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: ahmedjamal1998 on August 24, 2017, 03:01:39 PM
Well that's how trading anything works, right ?
Buy when low and sell when high.
But the thing is crypto currencies aren't stable at all. And that example is a rise of 10% ! Which is extremely difficult to achieve.
And you can buy today thinking that the price is low already and next day find it much lower !
That's way it's different than anything else (if you take stocks or gold into consideration as their price change range is somewhat small).



Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Karpeles on August 24, 2017, 03:03:35 PM
Yes, and there is a technical Bitcoin term for it, hodling.

Easier to say than to practice, specially if you are a noob. Might take a long time until price rises again and you may panic sell or be too hasty and sell before the rise.

But until today the price always recovered and reached some new ATH, even if the bear market lasted few years.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: odolvlobo on August 24, 2017, 03:06:04 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?

What are you going to do if it goes to $9 tomorrow instead?


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: bamboylee on August 24, 2017, 03:21:58 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?

What are you going to do if it goes to $9 tomorrow instead?

Of course you will have to hold it for the time being. Since the price is fluctuating, it can easily be 12$ the next day. All he is asking is if it is viable and it is. He can sell his bitcoin anytime he have profit however small it is. And he can buy again when the price falls. The hard thing is timing it. The price may not go down after he sells his bitcoin or may not go up after he bought.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: btc_angela on August 24, 2017, 03:38:51 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?

Yes. That is the basic paradigm of trading. You buy low and sell high and so get instant profit. So if you are talking about hundreds or even thousands of dollars its a already a huge profit. That's why traders love how bitcoin price is volatile because you can take advantage of it.

Now, let say the price goes down to 9$, so you can't sell it because you are going to lose, so what you gonna do is to hodl on your investment and wait for it to increase to 11$ to take profit. Goodluck to you if you going to be a trader.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: odolvlobo on August 24, 2017, 03:48:28 PM
Of course you will have to hold it for the time being. Since the price is fluctuating, it can easily be 12$ the next day.

Now, let say the price goes down to 9$, so you can't sell it because you are going to lose, so what you gonna do is to hodl on your investment and wait for it to increase to 11$ to take profit.

You are assuming that it will go back up, but what do you do if it goes down further to $8 instead?


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: suvo05 on August 24, 2017, 04:06:56 PM
yes you can start investing in trading altcoin ,which fractuate whole day. There are two famous site coinbase and poloniex for the coin trading. But that is not so easy as you were talking about. some big investor are in the market some time they manipulate the coin value of their own.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: zikabra on August 24, 2017, 04:13:39 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?
Yes, if you buy it today for 10$ and if price increase to 11$ you can sell it for 11$.
But it's not really that simple, there is no guaranty that price will go up, and what if value drops to 5$? You can try one of the exchanges, deposit few bucks and see how it works.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: bettercrypto on August 24, 2017, 04:46:11 PM
Honestly it is easier to simulate the price and think of selling it in higher price for profit.  But in reality it is easier said than done.  The fluctuation of Bitcoin is quite crazy, if you aim for a dollar profit then you must focus on trading, pay attention to it so that you can sell your bitcoin at the right time.

Selling your bitcoin is up to you OP, you do not need any consent from any of us here.  If you feel you have a profit then sell it.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: SvenBomvolen on August 24, 2017, 04:57:08 PM
Yes. This is going to work if you do not follow for some big profit. Imagine how much earn on this difference people who have, let's say, 10 bitcoins. But keep on count that for every sell/buy an exchanger will take it's fee from you and coins can just fall for days or just raise. I have tried this with LTC, but it is just worthless, I don't see any big changing for weeks.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: BitFinnese on August 24, 2017, 05:22:10 PM
Yes. This is going to work if you do not follow for some big profit. Imagine how much earn on this difference people who have, let's say, 10 bitcoins. But keep on count that for every sell/buy an exchanger will take it's fee from you and coins can just fall for days or just raise. I have tried this with LTC, but it is just worthless, I don't see any big changing for weeks.

The problem is that the profit is too small to cover the trading fee, I guess it is better to aim for higher profit than aim for a single dollar profit.  It will be a waste of time if you buy $10 today and sell at $11 tomorrow since your profit won't be $1 because of the trading fee, aside from that there is also a probability of you unable to buy back because of increasing price.  And it will take sometime for you to buy your $10  the same amount of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: bitorama on August 24, 2017, 05:49:57 PM
Yes but tomorrow can be also $9, do not forget the risk


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: irmasany on August 24, 2017, 05:51:25 PM
as you say that trading, as far as I understand in trading, is not easy to determine the right steps to buy or sell. It needs to be learned and investigated from the market and sources that can be the best reference in trading. If you do without first judging it's a very silly thing not unlike a gamble. There needs to be tactics and understanding for trading.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: greeklogos on August 24, 2017, 07:41:09 PM
Do you think it is going to be enough for you to earn so few? Add to that the market doesn't want to behave itself like you wish to be comfortable for you and your noob's steps in trading. The market is going to be unpredictable for you, so you will have to spend more time to catch that difference in price for sell-buy.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Pab on August 24, 2017, 07:49:41 PM
I hold and trade edg,as for now edg value price is 70 cents,buy is 70 cents today low volume trading is sell 75,76 cents,everything below 70 cents s must buy,long  for now is 70-90 cents,but one tweet may change everything,find crypto and observe how trading is going,but find legit crypto after pump is dump,


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: ldah94 on August 25, 2017, 02:58:48 AM

You can take advantage of the rise of the currency but you have to be sure that it is a stable currency before investing but that it is also volatile to take advantage also the downs


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: albert11 on August 25, 2017, 03:09:36 AM
Yes, trading is going up and down. But that's not how simple it is that the price falls and the price drops. It can also increase as it does not go down today and increases tomorrow. It's hard that we do not know what the last price is before it's been increased. So do not say that's just that because you've experienced that you know how difficult it is. So it's best to study it as you learn more about analyzing charts


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Sled on August 25, 2017, 05:42:18 AM
The price of the cryptocurrencies in the market are basing on the demand of the people in the market and that $10 to $11 is not consistent and not all of the cryptocurrencies are having like that price because some of the coins pumps almost everyday while the rest is just like a roller coaster who are going up and down very fast because of the fast changing demand.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 25, 2017, 06:14:08 AM
The price of the cryptocurrencies in the market are basing on the demand of the people in the market and that $10 to $11 is not consistent and not all of the cryptocurrencies are having like that price because some of the coins pumps almost everyday while the rest is just like a roller coaster who are going up and down very fast because of the fast changing demand.

i don't think we can really call "pump and dump" as "demand". if anything it is fake demand.
and there is a big difference between the two of them too.
if demand is real then the price will rise and it will remain up and it may only have a correction but it will stay up and may even continue rising.
but a fake demand that is coming from a pump will never last. it goes up and then it will fall down. in case of bigger altcoins with a huge pump and a lot of "wishful" people, it takes a long time but you can clearly see the downward trend after their pumps.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: michellee on August 25, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?

i think its about value in money that is go up and down but for the coin itself, if the dev still work with seriously then I think the value of the coin will be increase and not just value in money. I think crypto currency is good way for us to be our new investment because from time to time, the value its increase.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: AleksBozhinov on August 25, 2017, 11:49:34 AM
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Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Quidat on August 25, 2017, 12:42:52 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?
Sounds simple right? But when you do tried to trade I'm sure you would really be confused on what would you gonna do.Specially if you are just a newbie trader you would make mistakes on purchasing coins randomly on which this is the common thing on most noobs that jumps into trading without any proper knowledge.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: carlisle1 on August 25, 2017, 12:51:23 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?
Sounds simple right? But when you do tried to trade I'm sure you would really be confused on what would you gonna do.Specially if you are just a newbie trader you would make mistakes on purchasing coins randomly on which this is the common thing on most noobs that jumps into trading without any proper knowledge.
that's why its good that OP bring his confusion before he will start investing a lots of things needed to consider especially the fee you should check the trading site that you are using if how much the fee in every transaction but you are correct mate experience would be the best teacher for everyone Op should try and learn it in actual scenario.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: ameliana on August 25, 2017, 12:53:38 PM
There is no way other than the way you use it is true, the difficulty of predicting the rise and fall of price.So,buy low prices, sell high prices.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Bowly88 on August 25, 2017, 01:17:04 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?

You can do that thing but not everyday,  it is lucky for a person who buys 10$ then be able to sell it 11$ tomorrow morning. It is possible though but with only a little chance because not all the time the price of the altcoins falls then rises immediately. Sometimes the value falls and it takes a lot of time to goes up or will not be able to increase totally because of something. So I suggest you to find a good altcoins and good luck to your plan, it is too risky.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Quidat on August 25, 2017, 02:40:37 PM
Value of cryptocurrencies go up and down every few hours, so if price today is 10$ and tomorrow 11$ can I just buy today and instantly sell tomorrow for 11$? That seems way too simple... Could you link me to or explain here how dose all this work?
Sounds simple right? But when you do tried to trade I'm sure you would really be confused on what would you gonna do.Specially if you are just a newbie trader you would make mistakes on purchasing coins randomly on which this is the common thing on most noobs that jumps into trading without any proper knowledge.
that's why its good that OP bring his confusion before he will start investing a lots of things needed to consider especially the fee you should check the trading site that you are using if how much the fee in every transaction but you are correct mate experience would be the best teacher for everyone Op should try and learn it in actual scenario.
Self learning would be really needed and we know there are sites which do offer free demo on trading which a newbie could able to learn up along the way. Small steps first before going on the big ones.Dont rush up because if youre short tempered I'm sure you would really make losing trades since you would really make bad decision along the way.


Title: Re: Noob question
Post by: Maveth13 on August 25, 2017, 02:56:24 PM
Yes that's how trading works, be it in cryptocurrency or in stocks. Study the deviation on the coin, its average, latest highest and lowest value and the fluctuations within it.

Also, when trading check the delay of the site you are using.
Say in your example you bought coins for $10, then the next day you saw the price changed to $11. Be sure that when you click that "sell" button, the value you saw in your screen is what they will process.