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Title: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Ppooper on August 24, 2017, 09:02:28 PM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Shnikes101 on August 24, 2017, 09:32:45 PM
I'm sure others will chime in.

I've been itching to pick up a hardware wallet - specifically a Ledger Nano S. I've yet to get to a value level to fully justify it though. Hopefully someday soon


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 24, 2017, 09:34:44 PM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.

You already had the offline wallet that I'm about to suggest, electrum is what almost everyone prefer here. And I have some funds there probably 1 bitcoin and I don't have any plans on using them that's why you are good to go with electrum and there's no need to worry about it because it's one of the safest offline/desktop wallet ever.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: WatchMaker on August 24, 2017, 09:41:42 PM
Two best offline bitcoin wallets are:

1. Ledger nano wallet
2. Trezor wallet

Check out these two offline wallets they are the best so far.  


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: marky89 on August 24, 2017, 09:48:01 PM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.

Electrum is great and perfectly suitable for cold storage. Not only can you back up an encrypted copy of the wallet and take it offline, but you also have additional safety, since you can keep a copy of your seed written down on paper in a safe place (perhaps a safety deposit box, or buried in your back yard :P). Paper wallets are okay, too, but you need to be very careful to plan for contingencies if one copy gets destroyed. Consider laminating them and keeping multiple copies if you go that route.

As some have mentioned, hardware wallets are really cool. I've heard great things about the Trezor and Ledger Nano but I don't have experience with them. I'm also worried about long term data integrity and I'm not sure how their backups work. I use Electrum for my cold storage, personally. Good luck!


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: HeRetiK on August 24, 2017, 10:36:05 PM
As some have mentioned, hardware wallets are really cool. I've heard great things about the Trezor and Ledger Nano but I don't have experience with them. I'm also worried about long term data integrity and I'm not sure how their backups work. I use Electrum for my cold storage, personally. Good luck!

Trezor's backup consists of 24 seed words (+ passphrases for increased security) that you need to write down and safely store as a backup. That's all you need to restore your wallet to a new Trezor or software wallets with Trezor import support (eg. Electrum).

I have no experience with Ledger, but I assume it's not much different.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Minecache on August 24, 2017, 11:44:45 PM
I'm sure others will chime in.

I've been itching to pick up a hardware wallet - specifically a Ledger Nano S. I've yet to get to a value level to fully justify it though. Hopefully someday soon
Got my Ledger last month. Very happy with it.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: panganib999 on August 24, 2017, 11:49:16 PM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.
for the reason that bitcoin hardware is a offline wallet so it safe or safer than the other online wallet because it is offline theres no way they could access it it is invulnerable when it comes in hacking and youre the only one that could one access it in your hardware butthe thing is it can be broke.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: bit-freedom on August 25, 2017, 01:48:24 AM
Go for hardware wallet, it is easy to use and safe. Two popular brands (Ledger and Trezor) have been mentioned above.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: PepperaOnIt on August 25, 2017, 03:25:37 AM
Is offline wallet is better than online wallet? Whats the difference?


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Wind_FURY on August 25, 2017, 03:34:17 AM
If you want the cheapest way to store your coins then then https://www.bitaddress.org is the answer to your problem.

You can also download the offline version https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org and use that on an offline computer to generate an address for cold storage.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: _MrTuyul404 on August 25, 2017, 03:34:37 AM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.
Why not you try the Trezor or Ledger hardware wallet, Ideal for storing long-term bitcoins and very safe ;D


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: FJNuņez on August 25, 2017, 03:37:34 AM
Use a paper wallet, my friend. Go to http://bitaddress.org, move your mouse around for a few seconds. Then click "bulk wallet" and generate as many addresses as you like. Then print/write them on paper and you have your own public/private keys to send Bitcoin to safely. :)


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: marky89 on August 25, 2017, 03:45:24 AM
Is offline wallet is better than online wallet? Whats the difference?

For long term storage, definitely. If your node is connected to the internet, your coins could be lost if your keys become compromised through malware. So, if your coins are kept offline, a malicious program wouldn't be able to transmit the private keys back to the hacker.

It's pretty inconvenient to take coins out of cold storage for day-to-day spending, though, so it makes sense to keep a desktop wallet (like Electrum) for regular usage. Just keep minimal coins in it (just in case) and use encryption and/or 2FA.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: DoublerHunter on August 25, 2017, 06:16:51 AM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.
Buy some real storage like trezor which is one of the best hardware wallet as of now and there is a lot of serious investors who invested in bitcoin and store it on trezor but the if you want to be more secured then you should divide it into different hardware wallets like buying some ledger hardware wallet so you can have at least two storage for your serious bitcoin investment.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Zalfa_mui on August 25, 2017, 06:23:58 AM
For now I think the safest ofline wallet is just trezor, we can save our bitcoin in trezor without fear of hackers, and I think trezor usage is very easy, if we save bitcoin in online there is fear because many web phishing


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: redhorse on August 25, 2017, 06:37:22 AM
I'm using a Ledger Nano S since a month and I am very happy with it. Easy to use and secure.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: musbeto on August 25, 2017, 06:44:28 AM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.
If it's a safe purse it can be said  hard to But all online wallets are not 100% safe with risk. You can buy usb or ssd save coin storage here it's safe .


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Scorpion on August 25, 2017, 06:45:06 AM

If you want one, totally 100% secured on your own, get a Bitcoin paper wallet. You can create one and print one off Bitaddress.org

You select to print three or four copies of this wallet. Then go to a office supplies store or arts and crafts place and get some self-laminating sheets. Protect your paper wallet with the lamination and then store each of these paper wallets in a secure spots preferably three or four different spots.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: haroldtee on August 25, 2017, 06:50:24 AM
I am looking forward to having a ledger soon anyway with all the hypes. By the way, if you are looking for a long time storage and looking to have lots of bitcoin, I will advise a cold storage as most people already adviced here. Hardware or paper wallets are good for that. Desktop wallets aren't bad too though but remember that those desktop wallets (most especially the light ones) are as safe as the PC you are installing them on. So be careful of malwares and don't just expose them if you are planning on sticking to one.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: mondobitcoin on August 25, 2017, 06:54:00 AM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.

For me electrum its the best offline wallet, secure & simple, i recommend it
But im using blockchain online wallet, if you have decided to go all in, you need offline wallet


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: figmentofmyass on August 25, 2017, 07:06:21 AM
I am looking forward to having a ledger soon anyway with all the hypes. By the way, if you are looking for a long time storage and looking to have lots of bitcoin, I will advise a cold storage as most people already adviced here. Hardware or paper wallets are good for that. Desktop wallets aren't bad too though but remember that those desktop wallets (most especially the light ones) are as safe as the PC you are installing them on. So be careful of malwares and don't just expose them if you are planning on sticking to one.

very good point. but the issue here is offline wallets, which i take to mean cold storage. you shouldn't be setting up cold storage on a computer connected to the internet! :P

i definitely made some mistakes early on with altcoin wallets and malware years ago. when it comes to cold storage, i only use an offline/air-gapped machine that has no other purpose than to generate seeds and install/export cold wallets. BTC is just too precious to deal with any other way!


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: ashfer on August 25, 2017, 07:20:10 AM
Paper wallets are one of the safest offline wallets and we also save it on a USB pen drive and various other offline applications are available


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Prodigan786 on August 25, 2017, 07:23:46 AM
Based on my opinion electrum is the best wallet other wallets I did not find much rating and also long not exist from one time but may be new offline wallet too good compare to electrum but if your holding your hard earned money then go with proven one.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Francis Freeman on August 25, 2017, 07:26:52 AM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.

Electrum is the perfect choice, you already use it in the past and thus you know it, it's simple and safe. You can put it in an USB drive, then send all your money to this new wallet and store it in a safe place. Simple and safe.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Prodigan786 on August 25, 2017, 07:49:32 AM
Based on my opinion electrum is the best wallet other wallets I did not find much rating and also long not exist from one time but may be new offline wallet too good compare to electrum but if your holding your hard earned money then go with proven one.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: serjent05 on August 25, 2017, 08:05:13 AM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.

You already had the offline wallet that I'm about to suggest, electrum is what almost everyone prefer here. And I have some funds there probably 1 bitcoin and I don't have any plans on using them that's why you are good to go with electrum and there's no need to worry about it because it's one of the safest offline/desktop wallet ever.

I am also using electrum and I have no issue using it.  I used to save my bitcoin in Multibit but the moment they upgraded to HD, they remove our rights to save private keys (probably there is still option to but I cannot find it)  I think these wallets are safe as long as your system is not compromised.  Others also use paperwallets. 


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: KennyR on August 25, 2017, 08:19:16 AM
I know this has been probably asked a million times but I decided to go all in (investment money speaking) on bitcoin so I am looking for a safe wallet.

I have some stored in blockchain digital wallet but want to take it offline just in case. I did use electrum in the past and still considering it.

You already had the offline wallet that I'm about to suggest, electrum is what almost everyone prefer here. And I have some funds there probably 1 bitcoin and I don't have any plans on using them that's why you are good to go with electrum and there's no need to worry about it because it's one of the safest offline/desktop wallet ever.

I am also using electrum and I have no issue using it.  I used to save my bitcoin in Multibit but the moment they upgraded to HD, they remove our rights to save private keys (probably there is still option to but I cannot find it)  I think these wallets are safe as long as your system is not compromised.  Others also use paperwallets. 
Yes, electrum is the one that gives the best access and make it an secure way for saving bitcoin. Personally most of the users prefer Blockchain.info which has gained the trust than other wallet under the online wallet segment.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: talkbitcoin on August 25, 2017, 08:39:56 AM
i keep seeing everyone repeating electrum and paper wallet, but you should remember that these are not safe on their own. for example if you open bitaddress.org right now and create a new paper wallet and print it, that is not safe because you just made it while online and it may have been compromised.

there are certain steps that should be taken for a secure offline wallet like these:
1. downloading the wallet, code,... from trusted sources.
2. verifying its signature to make sure you have not downloaded a compromised source
3. running it in a clean and offline computer to generate your offline wallet.
4. never connecting that computer to internet ever.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Heyyyrenz on August 25, 2017, 09:33:52 AM
i think for me the safest wallet is the paper wallet since your private key is not stored in the internet. There are many good features on storing your bitcoin or money in a paper wallet.

You hold your private key meaning you personally secure it because if it's on the net there's a chance that it may hack and get your private key.

a bit coin wallet is very useful when you invest to a coin and want to hold it for a long term.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: nexus99 on August 25, 2017, 09:59:25 AM
Unfortunately any kind of wallet can be compromised in some way, even though the probability of this happening is extremely low. Like folks here have mentioned, you can definitely consider a paper wallet because then you will be the secret keeper of your funds. But you will have to ensure protection of that wallet too.
I personally go for Trezor, I find it secure. It has a recovery mechanism too


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: milewanda on August 25, 2017, 10:57:57 AM
There are few truly offline wallets if you have intention in long-term safe holding of bitcoin, Bitcoin Core and Armory (which still require bitcoin core blocks installed) are excellent options. Being truly offline and require almost no trust in a third party.
Electrum, although secure, still require some trust in the operators, the benefit is the no need to reinstall the blockchain as a whole, You can even get a hardware "Ledger Blue" if you would like to take security to the maximum.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: Chyton on August 25, 2017, 02:31:18 PM
1. Make a paper wallet (with password)
2. Send a little bit of coins there and try to spend it
3. If successful, send all of your coins there
4. Print 3 or more copies
5. Get a ziplock bag, put the paper wallet copies into them
6. Spread them, to your safety box, vaults, etc.
7. Wait n see.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: defined on August 25, 2017, 02:45:28 PM
1. Make a paper wallet (with password)
2. Send a little bit of coins there and try to spend it
3. If successful, send all of your coins there
4. Print 3 or more copies
5. Get a ziplock bag, put the paper wallet copies into them
6. Spread them, to your safety box, vaults, etc.
7. Wait n see.
At step 2, you no longer have an offline wallet.
Instead of spending the little bit of coins, try to decrypt the wallet offline. Download bitaddress.org and run it on an offline computer.


Title: Re: Safe offline wallet?
Post by: godrey123 on August 25, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
Here in the Philippines we only have one wallet which is coins.ph, but I can say that it is a safe wallet